Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Mmmm. Clove and lavender! And I have a large bottle of them left over from making orange pomanders. That's a great idea. Thank you On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM, seamst...@juno.com seamst...@juno.comwrote: I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f48011d267aa1a6a333st05duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
?Another 19th C method was using cloves in drawers and closets to discourage closet pests. -Original Message- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com Sent 2/24/2012 3:27:40 PM To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/mothsHi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
I have a similar problem with moths in the wheat. I hate to say it but I have gone to the dark side on this topic and I put a Hot Shot No Pest strip in every (airtight) box. I have feathers, too, and this stuff works. Cedar, moth balls, lavendar, not so much. Freezing has to be pretty close to 0 degrees F to really work. 150 degrees F for 2 hours works, too, but not appropriate for feathers. The damn bugs are EVERYWHERE and you can get reinfested all too easily. From: seamst...@juno.com seamst...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f48011d267aa1a6a333st05duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tate's national photographic archive 'rescued from skip' after internal tipoff
This news about the Tate's archive is a relief, but the article also tells about the loss of the VA's archive: read it and weep. http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/feb/23/tate-national-photographic-archive-rescued?INTCMP=SRCH Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tate's national photographic archive 'rescued from skip' after internal tipoff
This is most certainly a sign that the photographic arts are being lost and assumed duplicated because, it is just a picture. There are so many works of art lost to us that sometimes these photographs is all we have left of them. I find it absolutely a mortal sin that of all places the VA destroyed their entire collection citing that they were simply duplications and nothing more. To lose the original owners photographs with notes of the history of an item is just heartbreaking especially if the item is gone. :( I really hope they actually digitized at the very least those notes. Franchesca : -Original Message- : From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- : boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Linda Walton : Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 10:23 AM : To: h-cost...@indra.com : Subject: [h-cost] Tate's national photographic archive 'rescued from skip' after : internal tipoff : : This news about the Tate's archive is a relief, but the article also : tells about the loss of the VA's archive: read it and weep. : : http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/feb/23/tate-national- : photographic-archive-rescued?INTCMP=SRCH : : Linda Walton, : (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). : ___ : h-costume mailing list : h-costume@mail.indra.com : http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tate's national photographic archive 'rescued from skip' after internal tipoff
And VA were stupid enough not to realize that they could have put them on eBay and made a small fortune! ;) ==Marjorie Wilser (feeling a little snippy today. . .) @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 27, 2012, at 7:24 AM, Franchesca wrote (in part): I find it absolutely a mortal sin that of all places the VA destroyed their entire collection citing that they were simply duplications and nothing more. To lose the original owners photographs with notes of the history of an item is just heartbreaking especially if the item is gone. :( I really hope they actually digitized at the very least those notes. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tate's national photographic archive 'rescued from skip' after internal tipoff
It sounded from the article that just one guy was off his rocker... probably some cheesed off curator made at loosing the gallery space. --cin On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: And VA were stupid enough not to realize that they could have put them on eBay and made a small fortune! ;) ==Marjorie Wilser (feeling a little snippy today. . .) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
The moths who get into wheat and other foods are a completely different species from moths who eat wool. I found this out when we bought a bag of bird seed that had moth eggs inside. We had a huge infestation in our utility room. It took several months before it was completely gone. I had no idea that there were even moths that ate food. I had to educate myself on them quick! Teena From: cora hendershot wheatgoddes...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I have a similar problem with moths in the wheat. I hate to say it but I have gone to the dark side on this topic and I put a Hot Shot No Pest strip in every (airtight) box. I have feathers, too, and this stuff works. Cedar, moth balls, lavendar, not so much. Freezing has to be pretty close to 0 degrees F to really work. 150 degrees F for 2 hours works, too, but not appropriate for feathers. The damn bugs are EVERYWHERE and you can get reinfested all too easily. From: seamst...@juno.com seamst...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f48011d267aa1a6a333st05duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Very true that the moths that develop from mealworms don't eat fabrics. BUT also true that once they get into your house they are EVERYWHERE in your house, and they are particularly fond of making their cocoons in folds of drapery and other cloth (as well as on the back panels and undersides of furniture and all through your grains), and those cocoons are sticky. If they decided to make cocoons in your feathers, I'd say goodbye to the feathers. Keep your birdseed outdoors in galvanized steel garbage cans, keep your foodstuffs in Mason jars or else put the boxes inside big Ziplock bags. You can freeze the flour etc. if you want, but the best defense is to be able to see the moths or grubs BEFORE they get out into your house. Yes, it can take a year (or more) to clear an infestation once you have it. --RA Baumgartner -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent: Feb 27, 2012 11:29 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths The moths who get into wheat and other foods are a completely different species from moths who eat wool. I found this out when we bought a bag of bird seed that had moth eggs inside. We had a huge infestation in our utility room. It took several months before it was completely gone. I had no idea that there were even moths that ate food. I had to educate myself on them quick! Teena From: cora hendershot wheatgoddes...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I have a similar problem with moths in the wheat. I hate to say it but I have gone to the dark side on this topic and I put a Hot Shot No Pest strip in every (airtight) box. I have feathers, too, and this stuff works. Cedar, moth balls, lavendar, not so much. Freezing has to be pretty close to 0 degrees F to really work. 150 degrees F for 2 hours works, too, but not appropriate for feathers. The damn bugs are EVERYWHERE and you can get reinfested all too easily. From: seamst...@juno.com seamst...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city's best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f48011d267aa1a6a333st05duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Thanks for the tip on using cloves, I'm going to give it a try in my drawers of small items. H, have some tubs of wool scaps, may try them there too. For larger, ie; hanging, I've had success with the bags of cedar chips you can get at the pet store for small animal bedding. I take old pillow cases, sew a couple of channels in it, full it up and pin to a hanger. I shake it around a couple of times of year and change it out when the smell seems to be fading (which reminds me.). Never had a problem with cedar oil on the pillow case, so pretty sure none on the clothing. I have one in the bottom of my sock drawer, which also houses all the wool sock my mother has knit me. Seems to help. Flour moths; hates them! We had them once and had to clean out ALL the cupboards. Put down bay leaves (dried) in the back of each shelf and it seems to have kept them away. Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Ruthanne, you are so right. And they were disgusting! I walked into the utility room one morning and saw maggots going up the wall. And let me tell you maggots from moths are no less gross than maggots from flies. You could have knocked me over with a feather! Luckily, it was the utility room and not the kitchen, but we still kept a lot of staples in there. We didn't bother trying to save anything. Everything went into the trash. And then we washed every surface of that room. Even though we cleared out every moth/larvae we found, there were some behind cupboards and such. I bought some strips that have a pheramone designed to lure that specific species of moth. It took at least 6 months or more before the strips stayed clean. I think I was lucky that I noticed them right away and they didn't get into other areas of the house. But I see how easily they could. And in my case, the kitched was the next room over. You really have to be careful with what you buy. After that experience, I know exactly what their eggs look like. We bought a box of dog treats a year or so later and I immediately identified moth eggs inside. Into the garbage they went! I was thankful I saw them because that would have been right in the pantry. What a nightmare! Teena From: ruthan...@mindspring.com ruthan...@mindspring.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Very true that the moths that develop from mealworms don't eat fabrics. BUT also true that once they get into your house they are EVERYWHERE in your house, and they are particularly fond of making their cocoons in folds of drapery and other cloth (as well as on the back panels and undersides of furniture and all through your grains), and those cocoons are sticky. If they decided to make cocoons in your feathers, I'd say goodbye to the feathers. Keep your birdseed outdoors in galvanized steel garbage cans, keep your foodstuffs in Mason jars or else put the boxes inside big Ziplock bags. You can freeze the flour etc. if you want, but the best defense is to be able to see the moths or grubs BEFORE they get out into your house. Yes, it can take a year (or more) to clear an infestation once you have it. --RA Baumgartner -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent: Feb 27, 2012 11:29 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths The moths who get into wheat and other foods are a completely different species from moths who eat wool. I found this out when we bought a bag of bird seed that had moth eggs inside. We had a huge infestation in our utility room. It took several months before it was completely gone. I had no idea that there were even moths that ate food. I had to educate myself on them quick! Teena From: cora hendershot wheatgoddes...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I have a similar problem with moths in the wheat. I hate to say it but I have gone to the dark side on this topic and I put a Hot Shot No Pest strip in every (airtight) box. I have feathers, too, and this stuff works. Cedar, moth balls, lavendar, not so much. Freezing has to be pretty close to 0 degrees F to really work. 150 degrees F for 2 hours works, too, but not appropriate for feathers. The damn bugs are EVERYWHERE and you can get reinfested all too easily. From: seamst...@juno.com seamst...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Oh god, I had forgotten those parades of maggots up the walls. An unholy mess. Yes, we were taken by surprise too. Now we are VIGILANT! Best wishes-- Ruth Anne -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent: Feb 27, 2012 1:23 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Ruthanne, you are so right. And they were disgusting! I walked into the utility room one morning and saw maggots going up the wall. And let me tell you maggots from moths are no less gross than maggots from flies. You could have knocked me over with a feather! Luckily, it was the utility room and not the kitchen, but we still kept a lot of staples in there. We didn't bother trying to save anything. Everything went into the trash. And then we washed every surface of that room. Even though we cleared out every moth/larvae we found, there were some behind cupboards and such. I bought some strips that have a pheramone designed to lure that specific species of moth. It took at least 6 months or more before the strips stayed clean. I think I was lucky that I noticed them right away and they didn't get into other areas of the house. But I see how easily they could. And in my case, the kitched was the next room over. You really have to be careful with what you buy. After that experience, I know exactly what their eggs look like. We bought a box of dog treats a year or so later and I immediately identified moth eggs inside. Into the garbage they went! I was thankful I saw them because that would have been right in the pantry. What a nightmare! Teena From: ruthan...@mindspring.com ruthan...@mindspring.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Very true that the moths that develop from mealworms don't eat fabrics. BUT also true that once they get into your house they are EVERYWHERE in your house, and they are particularly fond of making their cocoons in folds of drapery and other cloth (as well as on the back panels and undersides of furniture and all through your grains), and those cocoons are sticky. If they decided to make cocoons in your feathers, I'd say goodbye to the feathers. Keep your birdseed outdoors in galvanized steel garbage cans, keep your foodstuffs in Mason jars or else put the boxes inside big Ziplock bags. You can freeze the flour etc. if you want, but the best defense is to be able to see the moths or grubs BEFORE they get out into your house. Yes, it can take a year (or more) to clear an infestation once you have it. --RA Baumgartner -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent: Feb 27, 2012 11:29 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths The moths who get into wheat and other foods are a completely different species from moths who eat wool. I found this out when we bought a bag of bird seed that had moth eggs inside. We had a huge infestation in our utility room. It took several months before it was completely gone. I had no idea that there were even moths that ate food. I had to educate myself on them quick! Teena From: cora hendershot wheatgoddes...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I have a similar problem with moths in the wheat. I hate to say it but I have gone to the dark side on this topic and I put a Hot Shot No Pest strip in every (airtight) box. I have feathers, too, and this stuff works. Cedar, moth balls, lavendar, not so much. Freezing has to be pretty close to 0 degrees F to really work. 150 degrees F for 2 hours works, too, but not appropriate for feathers. The damn bugs are EVERYWHERE and you can get reinfested all too easily. From: seamst...@juno.com seamst...@juno.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
Wow. Now I feel lucky that we didn't get the food moths. I didn't lose any of my wool - this time - only feathers. Lots of vintage feathers in unique examples of what can be done with them. I had yards of feather trim I just tossed and a broken bit of peach colored feather I wanted to reproduce. A flower of bright blue feathers with leaves of green feathers. Some wonderfully paddedand curled feathers. I'm glad it was only in the feathers and it has reminded me that vigilance is not only when the items come into the house but every six months or so from now on... Thanks to everyone for some wonderful suggestions. I have purchased six cedar blocks and will use them immediately in the feather and wool tubs. I'll also be adding lavender and cloves, just because they smell so good. I know they won't kill anything but my hope is that the moths won't enter something that smells of the herbs and spices. LynnD On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:30 AM, ruthan...@mindspring.com wrote: Oh god, I had forgotten those parades of maggots up the walls. An unholy mess. Yes, we were taken by surprise too. Now we are VIGILANT! Best wishes-- Ruth Anne -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent: Feb 27, 2012 1:23 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Ruthanne, you are so right. And they were disgusting! I walked into the utility room one morning and saw maggots going up the wall. And let me tell you maggots from moths are no less gross than maggots from flies. You could have knocked me over with a feather! Luckily, it was the utility room and not the kitchen, but we still kept a lot of staples in there. We didn't bother trying to save anything. Everything went into the trash. And then we washed every surface of that room. Even though we cleared out every moth/larvae we found, there were some behind cupboards and such. I bought some strips that have a pheramone designed to lure that specific species of moth. It took at least 6 months or more before the strips stayed clean. I think I was lucky that I noticed them right away and they didn't get into other areas of the house. But I see how easily they could. And in my case, the kitched was the next room over. You really have to be careful with what you buy. After that experience, I know exactly what their eggs look like. We bought a box of dog treats a year or so later and I immediately identified moth eggs inside. Into the garbage they went! I was thankful I saw them because that would have been right in the pantry. What a nightmare! Teena From: ruthan...@mindspring.com ruthan...@mindspring.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Very true that the moths that develop from mealworms don't eat fabrics. BUT also true that once they get into your house they are EVERYWHERE in your house, and they are particularly fond of making their cocoons in folds of drapery and other cloth (as well as on the back panels and undersides of furniture and all through your grains), and those cocoons are sticky. If they decided to make cocoons in your feathers, I'd say goodbye to the feathers. Keep your birdseed outdoors in galvanized steel garbage cans, keep your foodstuffs in Mason jars or else put the boxes inside big Ziplock bags. You can freeze the flour etc. if you want, but the best defense is to be able to see the moths or grubs BEFORE they get out into your house. Yes, it can take a year (or more) to clear an infestation once you have it. --RA Baumgartner -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent: Feb 27, 2012 11:29 AM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths The moths who get into wheat and other foods are a completely different species from moths who eat wool. I found this out when we bought a bag of bird seed that had moth eggs inside. We had a huge infestation in our utility room. It took several months before it was completely gone. I had no idea that there were even moths that ate food. I had to educate myself on them quick! Teena From: cora hendershot wheatgoddes...@yahoo.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2012 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths I have a similar problem with moths in the wheat. I hate to say it but I have gone to the dark side on this topic and I put a Hot Shot No Pest strip in every (airtight) box. I have feathers, too, and this stuff works. Cedar, moth balls, lavendar, not so much. Freezing has to be pretty close to 0 degrees F to really work. 150 degrees F for 2 hours works, too, but not appropriate for feathers. The damn bugs are EVERYWHERE and you can get reinfested all too easily. From:
[h-cost] 1910s/Titanic/Downton Abbey Needlework Patterns
For other reasons, I put together a list of original 1910s magazine containing about 50 pages of needlework patterns available for about $10 with eBay buy-it-now. Members of this group might find it useful, so here it is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Modern-Priscilla-Magazine-April-1913-WOW-Antique-/150767636655?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item231a7390af http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Modern-Priscilla-Magazine-April-1913-WOW-Antique-/150767636655?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item231a7390af http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-Home-Needlework-Magazine-Embroidery-Hardanger-etc-/310382786192?pt=US_Nonfiction_Bookhash=item4844417690 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1914-Home-Needlework-Magazine-Embroidery-Hardanger-etc-/310382786192?pt=US_Nonfiction_Bookhash=item4844417690 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Home-Needlework-Magazine-Feb-1914-Butterfly-French-Shadow-Eyelet-Embroidery-/390395084595?pt=Magazineshash=item5ae55c3f33 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Home-Needlework-Magazine-Feb-1914-Butterfly-French-Shadow-Eyelet-Embroidery-/390395084595?pt=Magazineshash=item5ae55c3f33 http://www.ebay.com/itm/March-1915-MODERN-PRISCILLA-Vintage-Magazine-H-R-Wineman-/200719604498?pt=Magazineshash=item2ebbd21b12 http://www.ebay.com/itm/March-1915-MODERN-PRISCILLA-Vintage-Magazine-H-R-Wineman-/200719604498?pt=Magazineshash=item2ebbd21b12 http://www.ebay.com/itm/April-1919-MODERN-PRISCILLA-Vintage-Magazine-/190645727575?pt=Magazineshash=item2c635ef157 http://www.ebay.com/itm/April-1919-MODERN-PRISCILLA-Vintage-Magazine-/190645727575?pt=Magazineshash=item2c635ef157 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-6-1915-PEACOCKS-FRONT-COVER-/360431799583?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd1f http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-6-1915-PEACOCKS-FRONT-COVER-/360431799583?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd1f http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-1-1915-COLORED-EMBROIDERED-SOFA-PILLOW-COVER-/360431799590?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd26 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-1-1915-COLORED-EMBROIDERED-SOFA-PILLOW-COVER-/360431799590?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd26 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-6-1916-KITTENS-THREAD-FRONT-COVER-/360431799553?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd01 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-6-1916-KITTENS-THREAD-FRONT-COVER-/360431799553?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd01 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-3-1915-TULIPS-FRONT-COVER-/360431799555?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd03 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-3-1915-TULIPS-FRONT-COVER-/360431799555?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd03 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-5-1916-BIRD-FLOWERS-COVER-/360431799568?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd10 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-5-1916-BIRD-FLOWERS-COVER-/360431799568?pt=Magazineshash=item53eb68cd10 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-7-1915-FRENCH-KNOT-EMBROIDERED-FLOWERS-COVER-/370582775139?pt=Magazineshash=item5648746563 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-7-1915-FRENCH-KNOT-EMBROIDERED-FLOWERS-COVER-/370582775139?pt=Magazineshash=item5648746563 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-8-1916-EMBROIDERED-BAND-PILLOW-FRONT-COVER-/370582775146?pt=Magazineshash=item564874656a http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-8-1916-EMBROIDERED-BAND-PILLOW-FRONT-COVER-/370582775146?pt=Magazineshash=item564874656a http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-7-1916-DUTCH-MOTIF-PATTERN-FRONT-COVER-/370569051476?pt=Magazineshash=item5647a2fd54 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-7-1916-DUTCH-MOTIF-PATTERN-FRONT-COVER-/370569051476?pt=Magazineshash=item5647a2fd54 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-2-1915-FOREST-MOUNTAINS-EMBROIDERY-COVER-/370569051477?pt=Magazineshash=item5647a2fd55 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-2-1915-FOREST-MOUNTAINS-EMBROIDERY-COVER-/370569051477?pt=Magazineshash=item5647a2fd55 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-9-1915-PATTERN-FRONT-COVER-/370569051478?pt=Magazineshash=item5647a2fd56 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-9-1915-PATTERN-FRONT-COVER-/370569051478?pt=Magazineshash=item5647a2fd56 \ http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-8-1915-DRAGONFLY-COVER-/370568593863?pt=Magazineshash=item56479c01c7 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-8-1915-DRAGONFLY-COVER-/370568593863?pt=Magazineshash=item56479c01c7 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-2-1916-OWLS-FRONT-COVER-/370568593864?pt=Magazineshash=item56479c01c8 http://www.ebay.com/itm/HOME-NEEDLEWORK-MAGAZINE-2-1916-OWLS-FRONT-COVER-/370568593864?pt=Magazineshash=item56479c01c8 http://www.ebay.com/itm/BN490-1915-Home-Needlework-Magazine-Crochet-Pattern-Ins-/290580946017?pt=US_Crocheting_Knitting_Patternshash=item43a7f95c61 http://www.ebay.com/itm/BN490-1915-Home-Needlework-Magazine-Crochet-Pattern-Ins-/290580946017?pt=US_Crocheting_Knitting_Patternshash=item43a7f95c61
Re: [h-cost] Online Research Library
Ann, They are well-known for genealogy sources, but sure, lots of fun historical stuff. Fabulous resources. ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:02 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I just discovered the Godfrey Memorial Library. It is in Connecticut, but it has a wonderful collection of on-line databases. Basic membership is $45 a year, which looks like it will get me everything I need, including early American newspapers and the database of British and Irish Women's Letters Diaries. Both are searchable, too. www.godfrey.org I'm doing a happy dance! Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Online Research Library
hey are well-known for genealogy sources, but sure, lots of fun istorical stuff. Fabulous resources. Well, I had never heard of them--glad I found them! Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Feb 27, 2012 8:28 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Online Research Library Ann, They are well-known for genealogy sources, but sure, lots of fun istorical stuff. Fabulous resources. ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ hree Toad Press ttp://3toad.blogspot.com/ n Feb 27, 2012, at 4:02 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I just discovered the Godfrey Memorial Library. It is in Connecticut, but it has a wonderful collection of on-line databases. Basic membership is $45 a year, which looks like it will get me everything I need, including early American newspapers and the database of British and Irish Women's Letters Diaries. Both are searchable, too. www.godfrey.org I'm doing a happy dance! Ann Wass ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Online Research Library
Looks like lots of cool stufff! On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 6:27 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Ann, They are well-known for genealogy sources, but sure, lots of fun historical stuff. Fabulous resources. ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:02 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I just discovered the Godfrey Memorial Library. It is in Connecticut, but it has a wonderful collection of on-line databases. Basic membership is $45 a year, which looks like it will get me everything I need, including early American newspapers and the database of British and Irish Women's Letters Diaries. Both are searchable, too. www.godfrey.org I'm doing a happy dance! Ann Wass __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -Sg- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
