Re: [h-cost] Butterick 5832
I think it also needs another seam in the front, doesn´t it? In my memory, most bodices have a front side seam, similar to the one in the back of the Butterick pattern. Am I wrong? I'd also raise the neckline in the front and back, making it less V-shaped, and perhaps make the bodice pointed in front, like the green dress on the January print. The pleated bertha goes better with a pointed bodice, but then, I'm a big fan of pointed bodices... Hanna At 01:58 18.12.2012, you wrote: Thanks for the help. I'm also wondering about two small details on this pattern. It's designed to close with hooks and eyes (wonder of wonders, NOT a zipper) but I wonder if lacing might be more appropriate to the time period (1840). Also, the sleeves end with a slit (at least 3-4 inches) closed at the wrist with a button. I feel that even if the slit is appropriate (and I'm not sure it is), it's designed too long. (I won't even bother to discuss the fact that the skirt is too narrow - they simply didn't use enough petticoats on the model). I appreciate all the input. I've had exactly the right fabric for an 1840 dress for years, but never found a pattern where I really liked the sleeves AND the bodice. And I've been too lazy to cobble pieces together from different patterns. All this dress needs is a pelerine! Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] silly question
Can someone tell me if there is a website etc where I can search old topics?? I found out about this group by reading someone referring to it and emailing the listed address.I have been saving all the emails for future reference, but it does run to quite a few over a year. :) Claricia ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Butterick 5832
Not necessarilly. I have seen front side, no seams and darts. -Original Message- I think it also needs another seam in the front, doesn´t it? In my memory, most bodices have a front side seam, similar to the one in the back of the Butterick pattern. Am I wrong? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Butterick 5832
I don't know if this will help... Nineteenth Century Fashion in Detail by Lucy Johnston, P.50 shows a 1827-29 Evening dress with similar skirt fullness as the Butterick's. The Evening dress shape is the same as the drawing of the pattern and not the cone shape in the picture. Through the book it appears that as you get into the 1838 - 40 the waistline starts to change to a V. On p.192 The Day dress 1837 has a natural waistline and not so wide puff sleeves. You could lengthen the gathered section down and add a 2 cuff to come close to the fullness of the sleeves of the Day dress in the book. The day dress does not have side back seams and appears to be closed by hooks eyes in the back. There is a possibility that the Butterick model is not wearing the appropriate undergarments. And yes the neckline dips a bit low but I think that the neckline is suppose to be a bit more off the shoulders which is perhaps why it looks to deep of a v. De ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] silly question
Not silly at all! http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Sincerely, The Frau... :) aka Saragrace On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:56 AM, lynlee o bahr...@live.com.au wrote: Can someone tell me if there is a website etc where I can search old topics?? I found out about this group by reading someone referring to it and emailing the listed address.I have been saving all the emails for future reference, but it does run to quite a few over a year. :) Claricia ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -Sg- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Butterick 5832
I found the source the designer used for the pattern - it's in Nancy Bradford's Costume in Detail, page 169 (at least that's the page number in my edition). There is also a color photo of the dress on page 378. It's that exact dress, right down to the slit at the bottom of the sleeve. But it is also clearly a surplice front in both the drawing and the color photo. So I've no idea why the designer decided on that bizarre asymmetrical bodice front in the pattern. But the sleeves and everything else seem to be an exact copy of the dress in Bradford. I think the color plate may have gotten reversed because the surplice shows as the left crossing over the right, rather that the right crossing over the left. I don't know if I've ever seen a fashion plate of the period with the crossing reversed like that. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
