Re: [h-cost] Increasing bra sizes (long)
I'm 17, and wear a 32B. Gosh darn it, too, I'm still growing up in that quadrant, too. It was about impossible to find a normal, soft cup non underwire not pushup bra in a non psycodelic color at our JC Pennies - and I had even looked some styles up online at the website and they didn't carry it in the store. . Your daughter is definitely not alone - my sister is 12, thin as a beanstock and straight as a board, just like I was at that age. The other thing I have a problem with is being overly perky. I fit into the top of the cup just fine, but the bottom has way to much excess fabric that folds up into a crease because there is nothing there to fill it out. I'll be working on it On 10/1/07, Chiara Francesca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOOT!! Thanks everyone!! I found the perfect bra for my daughter. :) http://www3.jcpenney.com/jcp/Products.aspx?GrpTyp=PRDItemID=125cf98RefPage=ProductsStoreRegNo=catalog_base=firstpage=CmCatId=SearchResults|SearchDepartment|SearchProducts|42249cmOrigID=125CFA2cmPosID=2 I know, long link, but it is a maidenform sold at my local JCPenney. Going to run there today and get them for her. Front closure with no underwire! She will be happpy now to go to the showers with this pretty thing. :) She currently wears the cami's with the extra shelf in it but she wants to 'look like the other girls'. Sigh. Baby steps Chiara On 10/1/07, Dawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rickard, Patty wrote: WOW! - Check current catalogue - the one I looked at was $49 (I thought that was a lot!) I think that's about average for a higher quality bra these days. As we age our bodies change, for a variety of reasons. When you're 40, you don't wear a bra for the same reason you did when you were 15. A lot of us are probably still trying to buy the same size and style we wore in high school. I think a lot of people need to re-asses their bra. Every time I hear someone say the straps cut in or the wire hurts,or it shifts around, or some other uncomfortable thing, I know they're not wearing the right size and shape of bra. It is *sooo* worth it to get professionally fitted. I had it done earlier this year and I can't recommend it enough. Not all bras are equal. I must have tried on 6 before finding one that fit and felt right for my body. I used to go bra-less some days because of the comfort, now I forget I am wearing one because they are so comfortable. I no longer buy the flimsy twisty things from discount department stores. As historic costumers we make a big fuss about the comfort of corsets, making sure we get one properly fitted to us so it will be comfortable. We make sure we have the right shape for our figure and our clothing. We choose high quality materials and we carefully handwash the garment when it is soiled. But many of us do not take the same care with our modern underpinnings. And why not? It makes all the difference when it comes to our personal comfort. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Stuff of interest in Seattle?
I'm a Localite - not in Seattle itself, but across the water in a lovely little town named Poulsbo. If you'd like to live near Seattle but not *in* King County (which is...half city), I put forward the option of living in Kitsap. It's cheaper, but I'm only an hour's commute away from Seattle. I love both the proximity and the distance! (The closer you get to Seattle, the pricy-er it gets) As far as historical stuff In Tacoma you have Fort Nisqualy, which is a reenacting/living history fort set in 1855. I haven't personally been, but I know quite a few people who do work there. In my town you've got a small, but nice house museum where we're starting a living history program soon There are several other forts around (Fort Warden, Fort Stellicom, etc) as well as some lovely historical towns. Unfortunately, due to the newness of the area as a whole, 1855 is about the earliest you get without going 'native.' Places to go . . . hmm . . . Weaving Works is great, if you like fiber arts, knitting or weaving. The Pendleton Wool Mill outlet is a wool lovers dream. Pacific Fabrics in Seattle carries some corsetry supplies and teaches corset making classes, if you'd like to gauge what is sold there, and there are always things like Benaroya Hall, where the Seattle Symphony preforms, the Opera, etc. There is a Rev War group, but they're mostly male and do skirmishes. Lots of SCA, but I only know of one terribly farby Ren Faire. I love living in this area - it's not to hot, not to cold, absolutely gorgeous and once you get over the rain (there really isn't that much) the weather is great. - Elisabeth E House wrote: It looks like there's a good chance that within the year, I'll be moving to the Seattle area. Is there anything out there of interest to h-cost type folks? -E House, dreading packing and planning to start EARLY this time... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Movies and ancient costume
Yeah, my pastor gave a sermon relating to this subject several weeks before Christmas. In the Greek, the word that is usually translated 'inn' in Luke is the same word used for the 'upper room' or 'guest room' in the Last Supper. Thinking about it, it makes me feel sorry for Mary - stuck in a full house with her husband-to-be's relatives, in labor with a child that obviously wasn't Joeseph's. Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robin Netherton Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:58 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Movies and ancient costume Following up my own post -- a quick Google, as often happens, is enough to shed light. Apparently this idea of the guest room with the manger has been around for a while; some of the citations I'm seeing are to papers from the 1970s and 1980s. Here are a couple of nice summary pages: http://www.ancientsandals.com/articles/01_jesus_birth.htm With nice photos and diagrams. http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/cwn/122206NazarethVillage.aspx And not a word about costume in either of them, I think. Oh well. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.7/620 - Release Date: 1/8/2007 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Even Weave Fabric
My mother has requested even weave fabric for Hardanger Embroidery (a Norwegian form of drawn thread work and counted thread white work embroidery). I haven’t been able to locate any besides the tremendously overpriced stuff at a local Scandinavian shop. This isn’t the cross stitch stuff, but is woven with a pair of threads, instead of the large basket weave. Does anybody know where I could buy this? Thanks! Elisabeth -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 12/18/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Even Weave Fabric
I'm in NW Washington state, so no, that won't work. I wish it would, though! Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of REBECCA BURCH Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:45 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Even Weave Fabric Where are you? There is a needlework shop in Cambridge, Ohio where you can get it from the bolt. --- Elisabeth Doornink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mother has requested even weave fabric for Hardanger Embroidery Rebecca Burch Center Valley Farm Duncan Falls, Ohio, USA ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.24/592 - Release Date: 12/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.25/593 - Release Date: 12/19/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy)
We had a large rotten maple tree fall on a row boat owned by my cousin, and our power was out for about 30 minutes. But the tree is going to be a huge mess to clean up. We stayed up for hours watching the light show of transformers - and were very thankful that ours is on the ground and we live on a highway that has a main powerline. We were a bit worried, though, because both our septic field and well are uphill from us...water becomes an issue. Yes, we have a creek and the bay in front of us...but still. Very thankful in Poulsbo for power and praying for those who don't! (Your comment about being a SCAdian made me laugh - we're set because my dad kayaks and has tons of gear!) Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angharad ver' Reynulf Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) It's been a bit dampish here lately...(mocking grin) and I'm ever so glad that Nick and I went into debt on getting a new roof this year with the wind and rainstorms we've been having. My son has 4 staples in his head from the weather causing an accident at school, but is otherwise ok-and I'll have lots of fence/yard repairs to do, but otherwise we're ok. I have to do this at work, as I have no contact with the outer world at home other than my cell phone. Between that and the problems my baking has been giving me this week, I've come *THIS* close to opening up my pretty purple package from the gift exchange (which arrived 11/23!) instead of waiting until the 23rd for our Yule (Teren goes to his dad's on Xmas Eve for 4 days--we celebrate early instead). Hoping that everyone is fine and enjoying the holidays--I have my Mod books in from the library, and hope to read them on the 25th. Jonnalyhn Wolfcat/ Angharat (very glad she's a SCAdian, and thus has heating and cooking equipment!) Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 12/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 12/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy)
Would that have been 1990? Because I was 3 months old during that storm (can you believe it!) and we moved out of the house we were renting for a week to my Grandmother's - we were loosing 5 degrees an hour inside and pack up when the cat's water froze. INSIDE. My grandparents had a stove that the water was plumbed into and the water was gravity fed, so they had it pretty good, even though the transformer blew. Our friends, on the other hand, were housebound for a week due to huge trees. They had a stick penetrate their roof - my dad's picture of it is really amazing. There is just a stick straight through their roof to the inside. It gives me a huge respect for the families that moved here, especially from places like Norway and Finland, where my ancestors lived. They moved here (to the land we live on now) sometime around 1895. To brave the wet and rain and dry in the summer to farm for a living in this rocky soil...amazing. Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LuAnn Mason Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 5:10 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) Oil lamps and candle lanterns were the order of the day for us as well, or should I say the night. Most of our county (Clark) lost power at some point, but we were only down about three hours. Our first year in the Pacific Northwest about 12 years back, we had a nasty February ice storm that toppled big trees in our neighborhood and left us without power for five days. When it came time to buy the house, I made sure there were NO BIG TREES close enough to fall on us. What I gave up in ambience more than pays off in peace of mind. LuAnn in Vancouver - Original Message - From: Elisabeth Doorninkmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Historical Costume'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) We had a large rotten maple tree fall on a row boat owned by my cousin, and our power was out for about 30 minutes. But the tree is going to be a huge mess to clean up. We stayed up for hours watching the light show of transformers - and were very thankful that ours is on the ground and we live on a highway that has a main powerline. We were a bit worried, though, because both our septic field and well are uphill from us...water becomes an issue. Yes, we have a creek and the bay in front of us...but still. Very thankful in Poulsbo for power and praying for those who don't! (Your comment about being a SCAdian made me laugh - we're set because my dad kayaks and has tons of gear!) Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angharad ver' Reynulf Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 12:07 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] OT: Checking in from the Pacific NorthWET (and Windy) It's been a bit dampish here lately...(mocking grin) and I'm ever so glad that Nick and I went into debt on getting a new roof this year with the wind and rainstorms we've been having. My son has 4 staples in his head from the weather causing an accident at school, but is otherwise ok-and I'll have lots of fence/yard repairs to do, but otherwise we're ok. I have to do this at work, as I have no contact with the outer world at home other than my cell phone. Between that and the problems my baking has been giving me this week, I've come *THIS* close to opening up my pretty purple package from the gift exchange (which arrived 11/23!) instead of waiting until the 23rd for our Yule (Teren goes to his dad's on Xmas Eve for 4 days--we celebrate early instead). Hoping that everyone is fine and enjoying the holidays--I have my Mod books in from the library, and hope to read them on the 25th. Jonnalyhn Wolfcat/ Angharat (very glad she's a SCAdian, and thus has heating and cooking equipment!) Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.comhttp://new.mail.yahoo.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailm an/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 12/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.19/587 - Release Date: 12/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list
[h-cost] (no subject)
I’m gearing up to make a new dress, and was wondering if anybody on here has made up the 1878 dress from Janet Arnold’s Pattern of Fashion 2. (ha – rhetorical question – I’m sure somebody has!) I’m got a general idea of what I want out of the dress, and this seems to be closest to what I want. However, I want to shorten the skirt and remove the train, and let the main dress be split up the front to where it starts to button. I’ll wear an underskirt underneath it. Should I break down and buy a Truly Victorian pattern or something else like that? I’m 5’3” 32-26-35, corseted, and this dress looks a bit big for me. Not that resizing scares me, it’s just that the design of the pattern looks harder to get smaller by just fitting it down. Thanks! Quia Christus Perpetuo Regnat, Elisabeth -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.9/573 - Release Date: 12/5/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Matilda (I love naming my forms!) was wearing my mom's bunad (Norwegian National costume, but she's naked *grin* at the moment. Coming up soon, though, is a burgundy and black natural form gown for Christmas! Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:59 AM To: h-cost Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing? It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/560 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/560 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] hair taping
I do hair taping just as a modern type hair do, and have found that I either need to do it when it's wet, or when I've got a bunch of small-ish claw clips to anchor the hair as I tape it. It's gotten easier and easier as my hair has grown - a twist of hair reaches from behind one ear over to the next, and the gravity of the strand helps keep it in place. Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] hair taping Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are. De -Original Message- Hi Elizabeth, Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down. Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions. Kimiko - Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping. Usually we use single faced satin ribbon. Comes out in a day. At one fair we were out of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug warp. That hair taping stayed in for 3 days! I slept with a silk scarf over it. It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies escaping. I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Hair
My favorite is Suave Freeze Finish Hair Spray. (Professionals Freeze Hold Finishing Non-Aerosol Hair Spray) It leaves the hair very, very secure, but not overly crunch and it still looks natural! We got a whole bunch of sample bottles a long time ago, and they've lasted well. One bottle got stuck to the counter when it leaked. ;-) It's known as hair glue around here! Also, for that slick, fly away hair (I worked with some tonight, actually!) try it when it's at the 'filthy' stage, or at least when it's wet. It also can be in the technique - I've gotten hair into buns that nobody has ever though possible before. The first pin has to almost hold the entire thin (important on any updo) and then the rest are just security. Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sharon at Collierfam.com Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:18 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: RE: [h-cost] Hair Hair spray. It's sticky and even holds my fly away hair. (It does get crunchy, though.) :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:06 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Hair I'd be dee-lighted to hear the solution to this problem, since I have it too. My hair is fine but plentiful, and nothing I've tried seems able to hold it in place for more than 10 minutes. Argh! In fact, back in the 80s, my hair wouldn't even hold a perm for more than a week or two. I've considered the french braid thing, but haven't tried it for years--my hair may be long enough again that it'd work now (~3 inches past waist). Which leads to my other problem: since I'm growing out my hair sans trimming, I now have about 6 inches of natural layering (and split ends), which means that when I try to hide the ends of my braids, they poke out all over the place and look awful. It seems like the french braid idea would make it even harder to hide the ends, since there really wouldn't be any place to tuck them out of sight. Any bright ideas? -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure
Ditto that. I've measured quite a few people, mostly kids, and the smallest girl I have ever measured was a 19 waist - she was a stick thin girl of about 10. And very cut, if I may say so myself. :-) But I reassert - she was really, really thin. My sister Steph is thin, and her waist is 21. Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LuAnn Mason Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:50 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure Not trying to be difficult, here, but no, not even on a nine year old (says this mom of five kids). I knew the 13 number was ringing a bell for me, but it took a minute for me to remember why. If you check medical charts that compare infants' weight, length and head circumference, you'll see that the measurement for a newborn's head circumference STARTS at 13. STARTS. Like, the kids with the smallest heads who are at risk for microencephaly measure 13 at birth. So picture the smallest, full-term newborn you have ever seen, and it's very likely that their little head was LARGER than this purported 13 measurement. My grandson is not quite two. He is only in the 30th percentile on weight because he's a skinny, bony little dude who is in perpetual motion. We dress him in overalls because pants won't stay up on his non-existant hips and tiny little skinny waist. He measures 20 inches at the waist. LuAnn - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Catherine's waist measure 13 waist? Baloney! If one is 9 years old maybe. It is true that the average person was smaller then than the average person todayand it is also true that girls who grow up wearing corsets and such can stand tight lacing more than girls who grow up in stretch fabrics. But the difference is not that great. I mean a 20 or 21 waist I can see. But 13 is just one inch more than a damn foot! A foot! Plus the function of a corset in this period is not to synch in the waist. It's not the 1890's y'know! Its function is to create the proper smooth conical shape with the breasts compressed a bit. And why is Catherine using inches anyway? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.commailto:h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailm an/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.32/523 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] iron corset
There's a picture of one here...but I don't think it was actually a corset - a shop sign, perhaps. g http://dept.kent.edu/museum/costume/bonc/4subjectsearch/lingerie/lingerie18t h/lingerie18.html Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 10:36 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] iron corset I'm trying to find information on the iron corsets that show up in museum collections and shocking costume- or corset-history websites. Specifically, I'm trying to track down sources for some of the information that is bandied about (without references) online. For example, is there any written evidence that Catherine de Medici ever wore one, for example? Are there documents regarding her (supposed) insistance that the ladies of her court maintain a 13 inch waist? I've heard of an account of a 16th century doctor having one made as a back brace, does anybody know where this came from? Emma ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.29/520 - Release Date: 11/6/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.29/520 - Release Date: 11/6/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
