Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-15 Thread Penny Ladnier
Many, many thanks to everyone who gave advice about working with organza.  I 
tried the painter's tape method.  My son is a painter and all we had in the 
house was expensive blue tape...it is supposed to stick better.  It worked 
too well.  It had leftover bits of tape in the seam that I had to pull out 
with tweezers.  Maybe the cheap-o tape would work better.


Next I used the tissue paper that you put in gift bags.  This worked like a 
charm.  At Joann's I bought tissue paper the same color as the dress.  So if 
I left paper in the seam, it didn't show.  I only had this happen once when 
I did a seam finish.


The dress was beautiful!  Thanks again!
Penny Ladnier
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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-15 Thread Maggie
I've always used Stich 'n' Tear. It's not iron-on. You cut a strip and lay
it in the seam and sew through it, then tear away from both sides of the
seam. Works lilke a charm. It's especially good when lining velvet with
satin, which do not like to play nicely together otherwise. And it's heavy
enough to stay in place and not tear before you're ready, like during
pinning.

Glad the tissue worked for you, Penny. I just thought I'd add this
observation to the list

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On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.comwrote:

 Many, many thanks to everyone who gave advice about working with organza.
  I tried the painter's tape method.  My son is a painter and all we had in
 the house was expensive blue tape...it is supposed to stick better.  It
 worked too well.  It had leftover bits of tape in the seam that I had to
 pull out with tweezers.  Maybe the cheap-o tape would work better.

 Next I used the tissue paper that you put in gift bags.  This worked like a
 charm.  At Joann's I bought tissue paper the same color as the dress.  So if
 I left paper in the seam, it didn't show.  I only had this happen once when
 I did a seam finish.

 The dress was beautiful!  Thanks again!
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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-15 Thread Penny Ladnier

MaggiRos,

I think this is what was talked about a few years ago that I was looking for 
as an answer.  I am saving your message so I will have it in the future.


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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-09 Thread Tania Gruning

Silk paper, baste your fabric to silk paper or the paper florist use to put 
around flowers, that should prevent the creep and should be easy to get off 
again

Tania

--- On Sat, 5/9/09, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote:

 From: Land of Oz lando...@netins.net
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer
 To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
 Date: Saturday, May 9, 2009, 12:06 AM
 
 BTW, I can't use the iron-on stabilizer because the
 organza, because the organza has a
 plastic type glitter on it.  The glitter melt when an
 iron touches it.
   ---
 
 I hope someone can prove me wrong, but I don't think there
 is a tear-away stabilizer that
 *isn't* iron on.
 
 Can you use wide painter's tape (the blue easy release
 stuff) and peel it off after?
 
 I'd call your local store and tell them what you said above
 and see what they recommend.
 
 Good Luck
 Denise
 
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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-09 Thread Dianne
I am working on my daughter's prom dress.  There is an outer layer of 
organza that is very slippery.  Is there a trick to keep it from sliding all 
over the sewing machine when stitching?  On the list, I recall someone 
mentioning a few years ago, a tear away stabilizer. Can someone point me to 
a webpage that tells how to use this.  All I have found are embroidery 
webpages.  I have to finish the dress tonight.  So I have to find a 
stabilizer at Hancock Fabrics, Joann's, or Michael's.


BTW, I can't use the iron-on stabilizer because the organza, because the 
organza has a plastic type glitter on it.  The glitter melt when an iron 
touches it.


In the notions section of JoAnn's or Hancock Fabrics, look in the embroidery 
stabilizer section. I buy non-iron-on tear-away stabilizer there all the 
time. It pins into place.


At JAF, the brand is Sulky.

Dianne

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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-09 Thread Cin
I am working on my daughter's prom dress.  There is an outer layer of organza 
that is very slippery.  Is there a trick to keep it from sliding all over the 
sewing machine when stitching?  On the list, I recall someone mentioning a few 
years ago, a tear away stabilizer. Can someone point me to a webpage that 
tells how to use this.  All I have found are embroidery webpages.

Hey Penny,
Lovely meeting you at Costume Con!

Tear-away stabilizer is for supporting a fabric during machine
embroidery  applique.  I dont think it's appropriate in your sitch.
(To use stabilizer, place it under the area to be embroidered; sew out
the design thru fabric + 1-2 layers of stabilizer; tear away or cut,
pick, tweeze away delicately so as no to distort the finished work;
steam  block the result.)

You may also be thinking of those temp or perm fabric glues (stitch
witch, etc). I'm not a fan as the residue can be stiff, tacky or
staining.

For pegging 2 organza layers together in prep for a seam, I use
Z-basting... the same technique as used to anchor velvets before
sewing.  Imagine tailor's pad stitching only longer.  The across
stitches go either side of the seamline; the diagonals maybe 1 apart.

An attempt at a picture: |/---|/|/---|/|/---|/

This is also commonly used to baste 3 layers of a quilt together.

 I have to finish the dress tonight.  So I have to find a stabilizer at 
 Hancock Fabrics, Joann's, or Michael's.

Nothing like advice that's too late!

BTW, I can't use the iron-on stabilizer because the organza, because the 
organza has a plastic type glitter on it.  The glitter melt when an iron 
touches it.

There's also Wash-Away stabilizer if your fabric is washable.  Again,
it's for embroidery  appplique.  You dont want iron-on... it will
stick to your plastic stuff in a permanent  gooey way. Yuk.
--cin
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[h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-08 Thread Penny Ladnier
I am working on my daughter's prom dress.  There is an outer layer of organza 
that is very slippery.  Is there a trick to keep it from sliding all over the 
sewing machine when stitching?  On the list, I recall someone mentioning a few 
years ago, a tear away stabilizer. Can someone point me to a webpage that tells 
how to use this.  All I have found are embroidery webpages.  I have to finish 
the dress tonight.  So I have to find a stabilizer at Hancock Fabrics, Joann's, 
or Michael's. 

BTW, I can't use the iron-on stabilizer because the organza, because the 
organza has a plastic type glitter on it.  The glitter melt when an iron 
touches it.
  
Penny Ladnier
Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites
www.costumegallery.com
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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-08 Thread Land of Oz

BTW, I can't use the iron-on stabilizer because the organza, because the 
organza has a
plastic type glitter on it.  The glitter melt when an iron touches it.
  ---

I hope someone can prove me wrong, but I don't think there is a tear-away 
stabilizer that
*isn't* iron on.

Can you use wide painter's tape (the blue easy release stuff) and peel it off 
after?

I'd call your local store and tell them what you said above and see what they 
recommend.

Good Luck
Denise

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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-08 Thread cw15147-hcost00

I don't think you're thinking of stabilizer used for machine embroidery. I 
believe that type of stabilizer is primarily NOT iron on, though it does come 
in a sticky back style. I haven't come across any iron-on type, but then I 
haven't looked for any either.

I'm not sure what Penny is having trouble with, but perhaps she can use the 
stabilizer to sandwich the slippy fabric, so that the feed dogs and foot are 
against the stabilizer and not the fabric. I've used plain old tissue paper 
like this, but not with the specific fabric Penny is working with.



Claudine



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Sent: Friday, May 8, 2009 3:06:14 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

I hope someone can prove me wrong, but I don't think there is a tear-away 
stabilizer that
*isn't* iron on.
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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-08 Thread Beth Chamberlain
In the days before stabilizers I used tracing paper or tissue paper cut into 
narrow strips. Depending on how nasty the fabric is you can just put one 
under the seam (against the feed dogs) or one under and one on top. You can 
do exactly the same thing with the stabilizer but the paper will tear off 
more easily.


Beth Chamberlain

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From: Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.com

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Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer


I am working on my daughter's prom dress.  There is an outer layer of 
organza that is very slippery.  Is there a trick to keep it from sliding 
all over the sewing machine when stitching?  On the list, I recall someone 
mentioning a few years ago, a tear away stabilizer. Can someone point me to 
a webpage that tells how to use this.  All I have found are embroidery 
webpages.  I have to finish the dress tonight.  So I have to find a 
stabilizer at Hancock Fabrics, Joann's, or Michael's.


BTW, I can't use the iron-on stabilizer because the organza, because the 
organza has a plastic type glitter on it.  The glitter melt when an iron 
touches it.


Penny Ladnier
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www.costumegallery.com
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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-08 Thread Kimiko Small

Hi Penny,

You can use anything from newspaper (which may get black ink so I usually don't 
use it anymore), white printer paper or tissue paper to act as a stabilizer 
while sewing organza. Just cut up strips a few inches wide, and put it on top 
of the fabric while you sew, and it will tear away afterwards. You can also 
sandwich the fabric between papers if it helps, so test both ways and see what 
works for you.

There is also embroidery stabilizers, but most of those I've worked with 
require ironing to help with the stabilization. Ah, except the one that is 
water soluble. But that has its own issues, and I think using paper will work 
better for straight seams.

hth,

Kimiko


--- On Fri, 5/8/09, Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.com wrote:
 I am working on my daughter's prom
 dress.  There is an outer layer of organza that is very
 slippery.  Is there a trick to keep it from sliding all
 over the sewing machine when stitching?  On the list, I
 recall someone mentioning a few years ago, a tear away
 stabilizer. Can someone point me to a webpage that tells how
 to use this.  All I have found are embroidery
 webpages.  I have to finish the dress tonight.  So
 I have to find a stabilizer at Hancock Fabrics, Joann's, or
 Michael's. 



  
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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-08 Thread stilskin
Hmm, this is why all clothing should be made of leather or denim...no need for 
stabilizers!

Still, if you are committed, a few things I have had luck with are:

Teflon foot (helps reduce resistance between foot-side and feed-side);

Stiff but see-through tissue paper on top and/or underneath; and

(personal favourite) Masking tape, the really textured type that will pull away 
easily).

Still, a leather and denim prom dress? Hmm, could be a match for my old Harley 
Davidson Star Trek uniform,

-C.



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Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer

2009-05-08 Thread LuAnn Mason

Scribble pad.  It's like unprinted newsprint paper.  It's cheap, readily 
available, and doesn't leave a lot of hairs behind when you tear it off.  I 
like it because you can trace your design on it and it leaves no trace behind.

HTH--

LuAnn in Washington

 Date: Sat, 9 May 2009 10:22:07 +1000
 From: stils...@netspace.net.au
 To: h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Help! Tear Away Stabilizer
 
 Hmm, this is why all clothing should be made of leather or denim...no need 
 for 
 stabilizers!
 
 Still, if you are committed, a few things I have had luck with are:
 
 Teflon foot (helps reduce resistance between foot-side and feed-side);
 
 Stiff but see-through tissue paper on top and/or underneath; and
 
 (personal favourite) Masking tape, the really textured type that will pull 
 away 
 easily).
 
 Still, a leather and denim prom dress? Hmm, could be a match for my old 
 Harley 
 Davidson Star Trek uniform,
 
 -C.
 
 
 
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