Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread Lavolta Press

That's good to know!

Fran

Genie Barrett wrote:

At 11:53 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

I haven't read the book, which hopefully explains things like this.  
But in the film, I thought they were idiots.



Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could call 
them two different stories with people who share the same names.


Genie
(Who loves that fact that it's the older daughter who falls in love with 
the Indian son.  Hawkeye finds his love, if I understand correctly, in 
another book.)

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RE: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread monica spence

Genie Barrett wrote:
Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could call
 them two different stories with people who share the same names.

That was my original reaction to Clive Owen's King Arthur. Though it makes
a great movie, it was not at all what I had expected. It gets better each
time I see it, and the names become background noise to the story.

And we won't even discuss the James Bond movies...

Monica Spence



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RE: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread Abel, Cynthia
 
Actually, if it wasn't stupid characters doing stupid things in most
movies(and TV shoes), that would eliminate the plots of most of our
entertainment from those mediums!  And that would lead to the loss of a
lot of fun watching them.

I kind of wondered at the trailer for Marie Antoinette which started
this thread.  My theory is that since the movie isn't due out until the
fall at the earliest, post-production work and a final musical score
might not yet exist yet.  I've seen other movie trailers where the music
in the first teaser trailer doesn't match that in the final film. The
score for Little Women(the version with Winona Ryder), I've heard in
teaser trailers for other movies.


For anyone on the list who hasn't read Hollywood and History by Edward
Maeder, I recommend this book as an excellent guide to the history of
historical accuracy/inaccuracy in costuming. Maeder also covers what
happened to a lot of accuracy between the designers' concepts and what
ended up on-screen. Not only did most stars demand to look attractive at
the cost of accuracy, the dear old Hayes Code also had a lot to say for
decades. Rule one must have been no breast exposure for women and no
codpieces for men. So women wore bodices appropriate to the year the
movie was made and men had to wear tights with costumes redesigned so
the films wouldn't be banned by Mr. Hayes, any other Puritains, and any
city in the U.S. that might take offense. Maeder recounts that Bette
Davis had to fight her agent and the studio when she shaved her head to
play Elizabeth I the second time as her research discovered the real
Elizabeth was nearly bald in her old age. 

In Maeder's opinion, the Italian-Anglo film, The Leopard was the most
historically accurately designed and costumed film up the year he wrote
the book. 

After reading this book years ago, I love to play a kind of game when
watching a historical costume film or TV show I call: Find all the
things in the costumes that give away the year the film was made.

Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you
want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out some
background extra.

Start watching those old films and have fun!

Cindy Abel

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Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 4/25/2006 12:38:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If  you
want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out  some
background extra.



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Indeed! I love how, oh say, the pioneers are in what is often pretty  good 
clothes but Olivia De Havilland is crossing the plains in a velvet ensemble  
with a huge fur trimmed hat.
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Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans The Leopard

2006-04-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

In Maeder's opinion, the Italian-Anglo film, The Leopard was the most
historically accurately designed and costumed film up the year he wrote
the book.
Cindy Abel

Hi, i completely agree with him, its fantastic costumes. Especially the 
elderly women in the great ball scene, who dresses very early victorian, and 
not high fashion as the young ladies does.
I definately will order this, i saw it on Amazon com, and its a classic, you 
will never get tired of seing that.

Thanks for reminding me of this.

Bjarne 



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[h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-25 Thread Julie


I love to play a kind of game when

watching a historical costume film or TV show I call: Find all the
things in the costumes that give away the year the film was made.

Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you
want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out some
background extra.

Start watching those old films and have fun!


--
giggle, snerk.  I've done that - same with still photographs.  Have you 
watched an episode of Classic Star Trek?


Also, go back and watch movies you thought were really cool/scary/ whatever 
when you were a younger with your kids.  Mine thought Jaws was lame, Psycho 
wasn't scary and the Trek clothes were lame too.


Julie 



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[h-cost] Last of the Mohicans

2006-04-24 Thread Genie Barrett

At 11:53 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote:

I haven't read the book, which hopefully explains things like 
this.  But in the film, I thought they were idiots.


Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could 
call them two different stories with people who share the same names.


Genie
(Who loves that fact that it's the older daughter who falls in love 
with the Indian son.  Hawkeye finds his love, if I understand 
correctly, in another book.) 


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