Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans
That's good to know! Fran Genie Barrett wrote: At 11:53 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote: I haven't read the book, which hopefully explains things like this. But in the film, I thought they were idiots. Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could call them two different stories with people who share the same names. Genie (Who loves that fact that it's the older daughter who falls in love with the Indian son. Hawkeye finds his love, if I understand correctly, in another book.) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans
Genie Barrett wrote: Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could call them two different stories with people who share the same names. That was my original reaction to Clive Owen's King Arthur. Though it makes a great movie, it was not at all what I had expected. It gets better each time I see it, and the names become background noise to the story. And we won't even discuss the James Bond movies... Monica Spence ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans
Actually, if it wasn't stupid characters doing stupid things in most movies(and TV shoes), that would eliminate the plots of most of our entertainment from those mediums! And that would lead to the loss of a lot of fun watching them. I kind of wondered at the trailer for Marie Antoinette which started this thread. My theory is that since the movie isn't due out until the fall at the earliest, post-production work and a final musical score might not yet exist yet. I've seen other movie trailers where the music in the first teaser trailer doesn't match that in the final film. The score for Little Women(the version with Winona Ryder), I've heard in teaser trailers for other movies. For anyone on the list who hasn't read Hollywood and History by Edward Maeder, I recommend this book as an excellent guide to the history of historical accuracy/inaccuracy in costuming. Maeder also covers what happened to a lot of accuracy between the designers' concepts and what ended up on-screen. Not only did most stars demand to look attractive at the cost of accuracy, the dear old Hayes Code also had a lot to say for decades. Rule one must have been no breast exposure for women and no codpieces for men. So women wore bodices appropriate to the year the movie was made and men had to wear tights with costumes redesigned so the films wouldn't be banned by Mr. Hayes, any other Puritains, and any city in the U.S. that might take offense. Maeder recounts that Bette Davis had to fight her agent and the studio when she shaved her head to play Elizabeth I the second time as her research discovered the real Elizabeth was nearly bald in her old age. In Maeder's opinion, the Italian-Anglo film, The Leopard was the most historically accurately designed and costumed film up the year he wrote the book. After reading this book years ago, I love to play a kind of game when watching a historical costume film or TV show I call: Find all the things in the costumes that give away the year the film was made. Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out some background extra. Start watching those old films and have fun! Cindy Abel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans
In a message dated 4/25/2006 12:38:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out some background extra. * Indeed! I love how, oh say, the pioneers are in what is often pretty good clothes but Olivia De Havilland is crossing the plains in a velvet ensemble with a huge fur trimmed hat. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Last of the Mohicans The Leopard
In Maeder's opinion, the Italian-Anglo film, The Leopard was the most historically accurately designed and costumed film up the year he wrote the book. Cindy Abel Hi, i completely agree with him, its fantastic costumes. Especially the elderly women in the great ball scene, who dresses very early victorian, and not high fashion as the young ladies does. I definately will order this, i saw it on Amazon com, and its a classic, you will never get tired of seing that. Thanks for reminding me of this. Bjarne ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Last of the Mohicans
I love to play a kind of game when watching a historical costume film or TV show I call: Find all the things in the costumes that give away the year the film was made. Hairstyles and makeup of the leading actors is a dead giveaway. If you want to see a costume designer's original intent: check out some background extra. Start watching those old films and have fun! -- giggle, snerk. I've done that - same with still photographs. Have you watched an episode of Classic Star Trek? Also, go back and watch movies you thought were really cool/scary/ whatever when you were a younger with your kids. Mine thought Jaws was lame, Psycho wasn't scary and the Trek clothes were lame too. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Last of the Mohicans
At 11:53 PM 4/24/2006, you wrote: I haven't read the book, which hopefully explains things like this. But in the film, I thought they were idiots. Actually, the book is so different from that movie that you could call them two different stories with people who share the same names. Genie (Who loves that fact that it's the older daughter who falls in love with the Indian son. Hawkeye finds his love, if I understand correctly, in another book.) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume