Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
I'd like to thank everyone who has sent information and links to images: they have given me a much better idea of how Nell would have appeared. And I apologise for taking so long to respond - the power supply plug on my computer went wrong and had to be replaced. (Grrr!) Linda Walton, (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). On 10/07/2012 22:53, Linda Walton wrote: I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drury Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), ‘in her smock sleeves and bodice … she seemed a mighty pretty creature’ (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing: can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
Try this. Copy and paste in to the browser: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=17th+century+woman+in+chemise+and+bodiceum=1 hl=enbiw=1055bih=734tbm=ischtbnid=vjpwIaiUWaQ-KM:imgrefurl=https://kar leeaturner.wordpress.com/page/55/docid=nzL0NGGcaQhikMimgurl=http://karleea turner.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/1830s_chemise_hayez.jpgw=295h=374ei=Kd T8T7G8Hoi-rQHRwLSLCQzoom=1iact=rcdur=430sig=107558246607309879747page=4 tbnh=168tbnw=127start=73ndsp=26ved=1t:429,r:25,s:73,i:385tx=69ty=127 You should get a pic of an 18th century woman in chemise and bodice, but it wouldn't have looked very much different form Nell Gwyn, except the hair would have been different. Sharon -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Carol Kocian Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 4:57 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn The url leads me to a blog, karleeaturner.wordpress.com, but her images all seem to be 19th century. Can you tell us the date of the blog where she has the 17thC image? Thanks! -Carol On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Rickard, Patty wrote: Copy strip marks or use tiny URL below. http://www.google.com/imgres?q=17th+century+woman+in+chemise+and +bodiceum=1hl=enbiw=1055bih=734tbm=ischtbnid=vjpwIaiUWaQ- KM:imgrefurl=https://karleeaturner.wordpress.com/page/55/ docid=nzL0NGGcaQhikMimgurl=http:// karleeaturner.files.wordpress.com/ 2011/01/1830s_chemise_hayez.jpgw=295h=374ei=KdT8T7G8Hoi- rQHRwLSLCQzoom=1iact=rcdur=430sig=107558246607309879747page=4tbn h=168tbnw=127start=73ndsp=26ved=1t:429,r:25,s:73,i: 385tx=69ty=127 http://tinyurl.com/c2ocwql Ceit -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume- boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Charlene Charette Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:56 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn 404 --C On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Probably similar to this: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=17th+century+woman+in+chemise+and +bodic eum=1 hl=enbiw=1055bih=734tbm=ischtbnid=vjpwIaiUWaQ- KM:imgrefurl=https ://kar leeaturner.wordpress.com/page/55/ docid=nzL0NGGcaQhikMimgurl=http://k arleea turner.files.wordpress.com/ 2011/01/1830s_chemise_hayez.jpgw=295h=374 ei=Kd T8T7G8Hoi- rQHRwLSLCQzoom=1iact=rcdur=430sig=107558246607309879747 page=4 tbnh=168tbnw=127start=73ndsp=26ved=1t:429,r:25,s:73,i: 385tx=69t y=127 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
How about this? http://www.traceyourdutchroots.com/art/zigeunermeisje.html ...which is from the right century! Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any concerns to info...@derby.ac.uk. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
404 --C On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Probably similar to this: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=17th+century+woman+in+chemise+and+bodiceum=1 hl=enbiw=1055bih=734tbm=ischtbnid=vjpwIaiUWaQ-KM:imgrefurl=https://kar leeaturner.wordpress.com/page/55/docid=nzL0NGGcaQhikMimgurl=http://karleea turner.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/1830s_chemise_hayez.jpgw=295h=374ei=Kd T8T7G8Hoi-rQHRwLSLCQzoom=1iact=rcdur=430sig=107558246607309879747page=4 tbnh=168tbnw=127start=73ndsp=26ved=1t:429,r:25,s:73,i:385tx=69ty=127 -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Linda Walton Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:54 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drury Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), 'in her smock sleeves and bodice . she seemed a mighty pretty creature' (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing: can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- A children's museum sounds like a good idea, but I would imagine it's not easy to breathe inside those little glass cases. -- George Carlin; When Will Jesus Bring the Pork Chops?, 2004 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Nell Gwyn
I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drury Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), ‘in her smock sleeves and bodice … she seemed a mighty pretty creature’ (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing: can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
To me it sounds a bit like what you see so often at a renn faire. Her smock with a sleeveless bodice over it and a skirt. Teena From: Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com To: h-cost...@indra.com h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:53 PM Subject: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drury Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), ‘in her smock sleeves and bodice … she seemed a mighty pretty creature’ (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing: can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
From what I understand about her, she wouldn't be one to wear the at home dress. She was much less formal. ;-) Teena From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn What was 'undress' in this time period re at home...or stage door expectation -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent 7/10/2012 6:06:19 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell GwynTo me it sounds a bit like what you see so often at a renn faire. Her smock with a sleeveless bodice over it and a skirt. ? Teena From: Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com To: h-cost...@indra.com h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:53 PM Subject: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drury Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), ?in her smock sleeves and bodice ? she seemed a mighty pretty creature? (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing:? can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
But the King took her to some private parties where she presumably had a ken to know how to dress(public) The demimondain always had Their standards and perhaps the 'chemise' look had a public 'vision'.?Marie Antoinette in her time was able to make 'undress' public with her MilkMaid fashion. Private but not Public. ---Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent 7/10/2012 6:15:31 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell GwynFrom what I understand about her, she wouldn't be one to wear the at home dress. She was much less formal. ;-) ? Teena From: R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn What was 'undress' in this time period re at home...or stage door expecta tion -Original Message- From: Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com Sent 7/10/2012 6:06:19 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Nell GwynTo me it sounds a bit like what you see so o ften at a renn faire. Her smock with a sleeveless bodice over it and a skir t. ? Teena From: Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com To: h-cost...@indra.com h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 5:53 PM Subject: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drur y Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), ?in her smock sleeves and bodice ? she seemed a mighty pretty creature? (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing:? can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
Probably similar to this: http://www.google.com/imgres?q=17th+century+woman+in+chemise+and+bodiceum=1 hl=enbiw=1055bih=734tbm=ischtbnid=vjpwIaiUWaQ-KM:imgrefurl=https://kar leeaturner.wordpress.com/page/55/docid=nzL0NGGcaQhikMimgurl=http://karleea turner.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/1830s_chemise_hayez.jpgw=295h=374ei=Kd T8T7G8Hoi-rQHRwLSLCQzoom=1iact=rcdur=430sig=107558246607309879747page=4 tbnh=168tbnw=127start=73ndsp=26ved=1t:429,r:25,s:73,i:385tx=69ty=127 -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Linda Walton Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:54 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drury Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), 'in her smock sleeves and bodice . she seemed a mighty pretty creature' (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing: can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn
Or this: http://www.rwnaf.org/collections/item?id=4 -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Linda Walton Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:54 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Nell Gwyn I found this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Pepys saw Nell again on 1 May 1667, standing at her lodgings' door in Drury Lane (off Bridges Street, the site of the King's Theatre), 'in her smock sleeves and bodice . she seemed a mighty pretty creature' (Pepys, 8.193). Please, I'd very much like to know what Nell Gwyn was wearing: can anyone suggest an illustration which might help? Linda Walton. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
