Re: [h-cost] RE: Regency Dress Closures (was back side lacing)

2006-03-21 Thread AnnBWass
 
In a message dated 3/20/2006 10:30:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

There  are some that have drawstrings with a back opening (frequently with 
one button  at the waist) as well as the drawstrings. Nancy Bradford shows a 
number of  those.



I have seen some extant gowns that have hooks and eyes at center back, but  
only one at the neck and one at the waist--guess they didn't worry too much  
about gap-osis! 
 
Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] RE: Regency Dress Closures (was back side lacing)

2006-03-21 Thread Jean Waddie
Thank you all so much for your help - especially Hope for posting all 
those scans.  I think How to Make a Regency Ballgown that Doesn't Look 
Like a Hippie Prom Dress is almost exactly where my friend is at!


And wouldn't you just know it - why can't we see how they fastened these 
things?  Because they hid it from us!  Honestly, you'd think people 
would have a bit of consideration for future historians when they 
designed these fashions ;-)


Jean
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Re: [h-cost] RE: Regency Dress Closures (was back side lacing)

2006-03-21 Thread AnnBWass
 
In a message dated 3/21/2006 3:36:34 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Because  they hid it from us!  Honestly, you'd think people 
would have a bit  of consideration for future historians when they 
designed these fashions  ;-)



There are a couple of fashion plates that show lacing up the back.
 
Ann
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[h-cost] RE: Regency Dress Closures (was back side lacing)

2006-03-20 Thread sunshine_buchler

 This pink dress reminded me... a friend is making a Regency 
 style gown, for a party so it doesn't have to be particularly 
 authentic, but neither of us can work out - how/where do they 
 fasten?  Some have buttons down the centre back, but most 
 don't seem to have any visible opening. 
 Please, somebody, give us a clue?

To add a bit to what Bjarne said, some of the early round gowns are only tied 
(apparently with no front back or side opening, just draw strings all the way 
around for waist and neck). The Kyoto Institute's new (ish) book _Fashion_ has 
a gown in this style. There are some that have drawstrings with a back opening 
(frequently with one button at the waist) as well as the drawstrings. Nancy 
Bradford shows a number of those.

Janet Arnold shows at least one gown (and I think more) that are bib front 
gowns; they tend to be a multi-layered bodice in the front with the lining 
being pinned center front and the bib being pinned or buttoned to the shoulder 
area of the neck line -- it's kind of like an apron bib front being pinned up 
rather then tied. Here's my attempt at ASCII drawing: the vertical lines in the 
center are supposed to represent the two sides pinned together  

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This is a nice dress diary for a bib front dress, that should help show what 
I'm trying to describe. http://www.koshka-the-cat.com/drop_front.html

Hope this helps!
-sunny

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