[h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Kathryn Pinner
Thanks for all your input. I've used that technique for belt loops and tacking 
linings in place, but never knew the name bride, and also never thought to 
use it as a reinforcement. 
When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it would 
be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be worked 
more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash point catching 
the fabric?

Thanks again,
Kate

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On 
Behalf Of Audrey Bergeron-Morin
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:07 PM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Sewing term - bride - 18/19thc?

Well, not so much modern as English, given that bride is the French term
;-)


 The modern term would be a tailor's bar.


 In a message dated 30/06/2010 19:15:28 GMT Daylight Time, 
 h-costume-requ...@indra.com writes:

 In  Costume Close Up by Linda Baumgarten  John Watson on page 107 
 describing a late 18th century shirt neck opening, the authors state 
 A buttonhole-stitched bride is worked at the point to reinforce the 
 slashed opening.
 The bride appears to be a later replacement.
 I have never heard  of the term bride.  Anyone know this term?



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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Carmen Beaudry


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From: Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu

Subject: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?


Thanks for all your input. I've used that technique for belt loops and 
tacking linings in place, but never knew the name bride, and also never 
thought to use it as a reinforcement.
When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it 
would be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be 
worked more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash 
point catching the fabric?


Thanks again,
Kate


I do both.  I buttonhole stitch around the point of the slit, and then make 
a bride about a 1/4 inch up from the slit.


Carmen 


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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Kathryn Pinner
That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower end of side 
seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs?

Kate


 When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it 
 would be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be 
 worked more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash 
 point catching the fabric?

 Thanks again,
 Kate

I do both.  I buttonhole stitch around the point of the slit, and then make 
a bride about a 1/4 inch up from the slit.

Carmen 

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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Carmen Beaudry




That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower end of 
side seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs?


Kate

Usually not the cuffs, unless the person I'm sewing for puts a lot of stress 
on that seam, but certainly on the side slits.


Carmen 


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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Kathryn Pinner
 
I've put little gussets there, but like the idea of a bride better. Thanks!

Kate

 That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower 
 end of side seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs?

 Kate

Usually not the cuffs, unless the person I'm sewing for puts a lot of stress on 
that seam, but certainly on the side slits.

Carmen 

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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread Chris Bertani
I do not, since neither is a slash, and the flat fell seam helps take
any strain.  I usually put gussets at the bottom of the side seams,
but neither gets the same stress that the bottom of the neck opening.

I also buttonhole stitch around the bottom of the slash, beyond the
point where a rolled hem is workable.  The bride/bar tack is sewed
just above this.  I guess that does make it sort of a button hole, but
I never though of it that way before.

-- Chris Bertani
www.goblinrevolution.org/costumes




On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 07:58, Kathryn Pinner pinn...@mccc.edu wrote:
 That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower end of 
 side seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs?

 Kate


 When using it as a neck opening slash reinforcement, do you think that it
 would be a short bar attached near the point on both sides, or would it be
 worked more like a buttonhole (or half a buttonhole) around the slash
 point catching the fabric?

 Thanks again,
 Kate

 I do both.  I buttonhole stitch around the point of the slit, and then make
 a bride about a 1/4 inch up from the slit.

 Carmen

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Re: [h-cost] Secondary question - bride ?

2010-07-01 Thread albertcat


Usually not the cuffs, unless the person I'm sewing for puts a lot of stress on 
that seam, but certainly on the side slits. 

I will do a bar tack on the seams where they open at the cuffs which is not 
a bride of course. And the side slits usually have a small gusset set into 
where they start to take the stress. But I also, if I have time, will do a bar 
tack at the points of all the gussets. I dunno if it's period or not but I'll 
bet it was done. It's just too sensible.




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 That would certainly reinforce it. Do you do the same for the lower end of  
 side seams when they are open flaps and the cuffs? 
 
 Kate 
 
Usually not the cuffs, unless the person I'm sewing for puts a lot of stress on 
that seam, but certainly on the side slits. 
 
Carmen  
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