Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
So you did not get to yell man on the floor! with the inevitable reply pick him up - how sad. (Fathers helping daughters move in) Patty The state college I attended in the early 90's still does not allow men in the women's dorm. Period. Times change, but not everywhere. And I shudder to think that clothes I wore in high school are now considered vintage. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
And late minutes - don't forget those. (number of minutes you signed back in after curfew - other restrictions if you had too many) Dinner was family style you couldn't go in until you had 8 people. Calls of we need 2 for dinner in the hallways. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cbellfl...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:11 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie Of course!? So could we. From 2:00 to 4:00 on Sunday afternoon.? Doors open.? Feet on the floor.? Housemother wandering the halls.? And they had to sign in at the desk in the lobby.? Catherine -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain bcham...@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.)? ? Beth? ? ? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
I did props for The Devil's Disciple and needed old fashioned handcuffs. I got them from the sheriff guy who patrolled campus late at night. We got to chatting and I mentioned needing them and he said they had some I could borrow. They were so cool! I have no idea how old they really were, but at least 100 years, I'd guess, iron, with heavy locks. Probably should have been in a museum, but there they were, hanging out at the local jail. They were large, maybe meant for leg shackles--the actor just slipped his hands in to them without opening. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Kate Pinner Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:21 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie Oh, the memories you guys (that's Jersey for ya'll) are bringing back. OT, but I remember getting props for Fieffer's Little Murders and signing out the reason/destination was to get a gun (I was picking up a deer rifle and blanks from the local sheriff). Can you imagine what kind of rukus that would cause today? Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cbellfl...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:11 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie Of course!? So could we. From 2:00 to 4:00 on Sunday afternoon.? Doors open.? Feet on the floor.? Housemother wandering the halls.? And they had to sign in at the desk in the lobby.? Catherine -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain bcham...@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.)? ? Beth? ? ? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
What happened if you didn't get 8? -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Rickard, Patty Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:29 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie And late minutes - don't forget those. (number of minutes you signed back in after curfew - other restrictions if you had too many) Dinner was family style you couldn't go in until you had 8 people. Calls of we need 2 for dinner in the hallways. Patty -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cbellfl...@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:11 AM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie Of course!? So could we. From 2:00 to 4:00 on Sunday afternoon.? Doors open.? Feet on the floor.? Housemother wandering the halls.? And they had to sign in at the desk in the lobby.? Catherine -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain bcham...@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.)? ? Beth? ? ? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
You to wait until enough other people showed up. (Unless there was no one else in line) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:05 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie What happened if you didn't get 8? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
Beth Chamberlain wrote: By the 80's we could show up for class in jeans, sweats or even pj's. I always wondered if the girls in pj's with uncombed hair would have dared to do that if there were guys in class. The Home Ec students were certainly encouraged to dress nicely for certain events but in class it was pretty much anything goes. Not at the public high school I graduated from. Uncombed hair might get overlooked, but PJ's would get you sent home. It was definitely not 'anything goes'. I can remember a number of times where students got sent home for 'inappropriate' or 'distracting' dress. Midrifs showing, dyed or bleached hair, boys with long hair, and yes, even a pajama incident. (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.) The state college I attended in the early 90's still does not allow men in the women's dorm. Period. Times change, but not everywhere. And I shudder to think that clothes I wore in high school are now considered vintage. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
Hi Kate (Sweetbriar) and Catherine (Radford) I was at Randolph-Macon Woman's College in Lynchburg, Virginia from 1964-1966. Then I went to Northwestern. Because I was there such a brief time and because new clothes were bought for college, I have all sorts of snapshots of my friends and myself that I can nail to a short period of time. I do wish we could post pictures here. Absolutely NO pants of any kind allowed on front campus or in class. For 8:00 AM French class we rolled up the legs of our pajamas and hid them with our London Fog raincoats. The most popular footwear was Bass Weejuns (Scotch grain). Weejuns were spiffier than Old Maine Trotters. In high school we put pennies in the brown loafers and nickels in the black ones. By 1964 this was uncool. We wore our loafers with knee socks or with panty hose. Keds were good for summer. They were white canvas and had a blue label on the back of the heel. I had a few real Villager outfits, but mostly copies. The popular style was an A-line heathery skirt with a matching cable-knit sweater. You wore this on a casual date and to mixers. The appropriate length was mid-knee. Everyone wore printed cotton blouses. These were often floral, but sometimes whimsical. I had one with eggplants. These usually had Peter Pan collars and roll-up sleeves. They were worn with solid-color skirts. Cardigans were worn, unbuttoned, over blouses. Many were hand made. We were all busy knitting. Fair Isle sweaters were greatly admired. Everybody had a yellow slicker with a hood. Hoods in general were popular, but garments with them weren't called hoodies. Madras was everywhere. My Madras dress had a hemp belt. In fact, I had hemp belts in all colors. The front part was always leather and the buckle was metal. I had a Granny dress made out of a mustard-colored cotton with a tiny print. It was empire waisted and almost touched the floor. It was trimmed with rickrack. This style was a new concept in Virginia in the mid-60's. Very daring. For church, and for the President's Tea, we wore little white gloves. Our purses matched our heels. We wore pantyhose and always wore a slip. Pettipants were around, too. There were no tattoos. Not much nail polish. Ears were not pierced. We all smoked - absolutely everybody. Martha PS By 1969 I was working at Actor's Theater in Louisville and buying myself 1930's velvets at the Salvation Army. ** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
I was at Randolph-Macon Woman's College in Lynchburg, Virginia from 1964-1966. major snippage This all sounds like what many people were doing when I was in High School in southern CA. then, except for the church and white gloves part. The Beach Boys, and the (male) surfer crowd in southern CA, looked like Grunge, with jeans, plaid flannel shirts, t-shirts with silk-screened something on them, and hair that touched their shirt collars. The first decorated t-shirts were silk-screened. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
Martha, You are a little ahead of me.? I was in high school when I had the blouse with eggplants.? It had an olive-green background and matching skirt.? I had a sweater to match the skirt.? Now I know that was probably not a good color for me - and I know why my mother would never let me have the burnt orange outfit.? I had scads of really neat knee socks - all different patterns and colors. When I left for college, my mother went through my stuff and gave most of them away. Imagine my disappointment when I asked her to send them to me when the weather turned cold!? She did send me my old black loafers to wear for band.? In high school, I wore saddles with the knee socks. I remember polishing them every morning before school. They stayed on better than loafers - I have skinny feet.? (And were more practical for walking up the driveway from the bus stop - especially in the snow.) My freshman year room-mate was barely 5' and I'm 5'10.? She wore my tennis dress to the President's Tea.? These younger girls don't realize what they missed! By the way, we took our younger son to Lynchburg College this past weekend for Governor's School.? He'll be there all month.? Catherine -Original Message- From: Martha Kelly marthake...@nyc.rr.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:42 pm Subject: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie Hi Kate (Sweetbriar) and Catherine (Radford) I was at Randolph-Macon Woman's College in Lynchburg, Virginia from 1964-1966. Then I went to Northwestern. Because I was there such a brief time and because new clothes were bought for college, I have all sorts of snapshots of my friends and myself that I can nail to a short period of time. I do wish we could post pictures here. Absolutely NO pants of any kind allowed on front campus or in class. For 8:00 AM French class we rolled up the legs of our pajamas and hid them with our London Fog raincoats. The most popular footwear was Bass Weejuns (Scotch grain). Weejuns were spiffier than Old Maine Trotters. In high school we put pennies in the brown loafers and nickels in the black ones. By 1964 this was uncool. We wore our loafers with knee socks or with panty hose. Keds were good for summer. They were white canvas and had a blue label on the back of the heel. I had a few real Villager outfits, but mostly copies. The popular style was an A-line heathery skirt with a matching cable-knit sweater. You wore this on a casual date and to mixers. The appropriate length was mid-knee. Everyone wore printed cotton blouses. These were often floral, but sometimes whimsical. I had one with eggplants. These usually had Peter Pan collars and roll-up sleeves. They were worn with solid-color skirts. Cardigans were worn, unbuttoned, over blouses. Many were hand made. We were all busy knitting. Fair Isle sweaters were greatly admired. Everybody had a yellow slicker with a hood. Hoods in general were popular, but garments with them weren't called hoodies. Madras was everywhere. My Madras dress had a hemp belt. In fact, I had hemp belts in all colors. The front part was always leather and the buckle was metal. I had a Granny dress made out of a mustard-colored cotton with a tiny print. It was empire waisted and almost touched the floor. It was trimmed with rickrack. This style was a new concept in Virginia in the mid-60's. Very daring. For church, and for the President's Tea, we wore little white gloves. Our purses matched our heels. We wore pantyhose and always wore a slip. Pettipants were around, too. There were no tattoos. Not much nail polish. Ears were not pierced. We all smoked - absolutely everybody. Martha PS By 1969 I was working at Actor's Theater in Louisville and buying myself 1930's velvets at the Salvation Army. ** ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
These younger girls don't realize what they missed! But we appreciated the paths you forged! By the 80's we could show up for class in jeans, sweats or even pj's. I always wondered if the girls in pj's with uncombed hair would have dared to do that if there were guys in class. The Home Ec students were certainly encouraged to dress nicely for certain events but in class it was pretty much anything goes. (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.) Beth A library is not a luxury but one of the necessities of life Henry Ward Beecher http://mysite.verizon.net/bachamberlain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
While it's a whole nuther subject and unrelated to historic costume, it bears mentioning that it wasn't just the clothing rebels you have to thank for your academic freedom, but all those courageous dissidents on campuses like Cal Berkeley who stood up for their right to free speech in the late 1960s. A lot changed because of them. That's all. Sylvia On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:42 PM, Beth Chamberlain wrote: These younger girls don't realize what they missed! But we appreciated the paths you forged! By the 80's we could show up for class in jeans, sweats or even pj's. I always wondered if the girls in pj's with uncombed hair would have dared to do that if there were guys in class. The Home Ec students were certainly encouraged to dress nicely for certain events but in class it was pretty much anything goes. (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.) Beth A library is not a luxury but one of the necessities of life Henry Ward Beecher http://mysite.verizon.net/bachamberlain ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Virginia Women's Colleges in the 1960's - definitely pre-hippie
Of course!? So could we. From 2:00 to 4:00 on Sunday afternoon.? Doors open.? Feet on the floor.? Housemother wandering the halls.? And they had to sign in at the desk in the lobby.? Catherine -Original Message- From: Beth Chamberlain bcham...@suffolk.lib.ny.us (Of course by then we could have men in our rooms too - thank you to the women of the 70's for that.)? ? Beth? ? ? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
