Re: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
On May 4, 2008, at 10:10 PM, Bella wrote: I think it's an optical illusion. What at first looked to me like an opening in the skirt, I now believe to be a blackworked handkercheif/small towel pinned to the waist. Yes, it's a muckinder. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
At 03:17 05/05/2008, you wrote: On Sunday 04 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/KatherineGrey.jpg What in the world is going on with that child's skirt? Did the artist decide after the fact that the skirt should be split, with a forepart? Would trim really have been applied diagonally and interrupted? I don't think there is any difference with the trim at all; I think that half of her skirt is partly obscured by a black blanket that covers most of the second half of her skirt. I see the muckinder, but surely the trim is still not right if the top and bottom are meant to match? On the right side facing us, there are two rows of trim missing, if it's meant to match, in my opinion? I love the whole outfit though - sooo grownup! Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/KatherineGrey.jpg What in the world is going on with that child's skirt? Did the artist decide after the fact that the skirt should be split, with a forepart? Would trim really have been applied diagonally and interrupted? Emma ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
I find it hard to believe that they would have applied trim like that. My best guess is that the skirt is too big for the child and the front openings were folded back on themselves, but why they would do that for a formal portrait is beyond me. Who knows, there's probably some terribly important symbology in it. It also looks like the child is wearing a linen smock with a band of blackwork embroidery, no forepart or petticoats, which I haven't seen before. Margo On May 4, 2008, at 6:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/KatherineGrey.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/KatherineGrey.jpg What in the world is going on with that child's skirt? Did the artist decide after the fact that the skirt should be split, with a forepart? Would trim really have been applied diagonally and interrupted? Somewhere, I seem to remember a discussion about this painting, and one of the suggestions/comments was that that wasn't *trim* but it was like chains/strings hanging from the waist. susan - Susan Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Abraham Baldwin Agricultural College Division of Science and Math http://www.goldsword.com/sfarmer/Trillium/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
- Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/KatherineGrey.jpg What in the world is going on with that child's skirt? Did the artist decide after the fact that the skirt should be split, with a forepart? Would trim really have been applied diagonally and interrupted? I think it's an optical illusion. What at first looked to me like an opening in the skirt, I now believe to be a blackworked handkercheif/small towel pinned to the waist. Bella The Realm of Venus http://realmofvenus.net Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address. www.yahoo7.com.au/y7mail ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
On Sunday 04 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/KatherineGrey.jpg What in the world is going on with that child's skirt? Did the artist decide after the fact that the skirt should be split, with a forepart? Would trim really have been applied diagonally and interrupted? I don't think there is any difference with the trim at all; I think that half of her skirt is partly obscured by a black blanket that covers most of the second half of her skirt. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You affect the world by what you browse.-- Tim Berners-Lee ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What in the world? Odd 16th C. child's skirt
On May 4, 2008, at 7:10 PM, Bella wrote: I think it's an optical illusion. What at first looked to me like an opening in the skirt, I now believe to be a blackworked handkercheif/small towel pinned to the waist. D'oh! I see it now. :) Margo ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume