Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-05-04 Thread Elena House
I'm terribly interested, but I probably won't be able to afford it
until fall/winter.  I'd be happy to design several dozen patterns that
I want as soon as I have a speck of spare time, though! =}

-E House, who just spent her fabric budget for the year on the most
recent-but-one Adobe software suite, and therefore will have no spare
time when it arrives in the mail tomorrow hurryhurryhurryhurry...


On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Kathy Stormberg ksto...@hotmail.com wrote:
 ... I would be interested in doing a silk brocade if maybe some
 others want to go in on it for a nice medieval pattern.
 -Kathy
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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-05-03 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova

I realized I made a mistake when typing the prices!!! Actually the price for 
creating a pattern is much lower - $10 is not per one square centimeter, but 
per 1 x 1 cm. So a 5x5 pattern would cost 5*$10 = $50. 
If the pattern is a rectangle, you take it as if it were a square by using the 
longer side (ex. pattern 6x8cm is regarded as a 8x8rectangle = 8*$10 = $80). 

The problem was communication between our company and the manufacturer in 
China, who only speaks Chinese, so that's why the information was so blurred. 

Zuzana


  
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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-05-03 Thread Kathy Stormberg

That sounds much better!  I would be interested in doing a silk brocade if 
maybe some others want to go in on it for a nice medieval pattern.
-Kathy


my crafty blog:  www.medievalartcraft.blogspot.com



 Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 03:26:58 -0700
 From: zkraemer...@yahoo.com
 To: h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades
 
 
 I realized I made a mistake when typing the prices!!! Actually the price for 
 creating a pattern is much lower - $10 is not per one square centimeter, but 
 per 1 x 1 cm. So a 5x5 pattern would cost 5*$10 = $50. 
 If the pattern is a rectangle, you take it as if it were a square by using 
 the longer side (ex. pattern 6x8cm is regarded as a 8x8rectangle = 8*$10 = 
 $80). 
 
 The problem was communication between our company and the manufacturer in 
 China, who only speaks Chinese, so that's why the information was so blurred. 
 
 Zuzana
 
 
   
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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-04-27 Thread Cynthia Virtue

Elena House wrote:

Wow, you know, this just suddenly put the whole medieval textile
industry into perspective for me, since the type of design I most want
to see in brocade is on average at least 50cm x 150cm repeat.  You do
the math for the cost on that one 


*nods*

I saw a nearly perfect all-silk scarlet and yellow brocade, very 
medieval, at Britex, more than a dozen years ago, for $150/yard.  I 
spent quite a while admiring it.


I suspect that there are suitable top of the line brocades out there, 
it's just getting access to the catalogs that places like Britex uses 
for their ordering is impossible for the rest of us.


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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-04-27 Thread Anne Moeller
When I was in London last month, I visited Watts  Co. in Westminster.  They
mostly do ecclesiastical accoutrements and they had fabulous brocade.  I
even got to see real cloth of gold (830 pounds per metre)!!!  They do have a
VERY good facsimile for a mere 83 pounds per metre and they will do mail
order.  I picked up a couple of bags of off-cuts so that I had some samples.

Anne


I saw a nearly perfect all-silk scarlet and yellow brocade, very 
medieval, at Britex, more than a dozen years ago, for $150/yard.  I 
spent quite a while admiring it.

I suspect that there are suitable top of the line brocades out there, 
it's just getting access to the catalogs that places like Britex uses 
for their ordering is impossible for the rest of us.

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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-04-26 Thread otsisto
So we are looking at roughly $24 per yard or $32 per yard?
And you are paying $10 per .4 inches (or square inches?) for pattern design?

De

-Original Message-
Speaking about custom design fabrics, I thought folks here may be interested
in custom made brocade fabrics.
Our company www.sartor.cz sells hiqh quality, tigtly woven brocades from
China, mostly 50% silk brocades. We also offer making a brocade according to
your wishes - your choice of pattern, colour and fiber. The offer's quite
new, so we didn't yet manage to put it on the website (which has an
unfinished English version, pardon me for that, we're currently working on
it).

The rules are as follows:

Minimum order: 15 - 30 metres (15 if the fabric is suitable for our shop, 30
if we don't want to participate in the order)

Price: pattermanikg fee: 10$ per cm**2 (you pay for the size of one pattern
that is to be repeated on the fabric.)

silk + rayon brocades: $24/metre
100% silk brocades: $32/metre

Shipping: depends on the amount of fabric you order, the more you order, the
cheaper the shipping.

I thought this might be a good chance for people who want 100% accuracy in
recreating historical costume. Let me know what do you think about it - or
if you know any better orders, it is always good to know.

Zuzana



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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-04-26 Thread Zuzana Kraemerova

It depends on the material, if you want 100% silk, you pay $32 per yard 
(actually per more than yard, one meter is a bit more) and if you want half 
silk half rayon, you pay $24 per yard. Half silk half rayon means warp is silk 
and weft is rayon.

Yes, it is $10 per 0.4 square inches. You only pay for the size of the design 
that will be repeated on the fabric, such as here:
http://www.sartor.cz/gallery/pattern.jpg
In this case you'd pay for 3*7 inches = 21 = $525. This would be a very large 
pattern, so the cost will be high. The smaller the pattern, the lower the price.

Zuzana



  
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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-04-26 Thread Anne Moeller
Got any of this material for sale?

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Zuzana Kraemerova
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 6:00 PM
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades


It depends on the material, if you want 100% silk, you pay $32 per yard
(actually per more than yard, one meter is a bit more) and if you want half
silk half rayon, you pay $24 per yard. Half silk half rayon means warp is
silk and weft is rayon.

Yes, it is $10 per 0.4 square inches. You only pay for the size of the
design that will be repeated on the fabric, such as here:
http://www.sartor.cz/gallery/pattern.jpg
In this case you'd pay for 3*7 inches = 21 = $525. This would be a very
large pattern, so the cost will be high. The smaller the pattern, the lower
the price.

Zuzana



  
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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-04-26 Thread JAMES OGILVIE

Yes, that's absolutely gorgous just the way it is.

 

Janet

 

 
 Got any of this material for sale?
 
 
 It depends on the material, if you want 100% silk, you pay $32 per yard
 (actually per more than yard, one meter is a bit more) and if you want half
 silk half rayon, you pay $24 per yard. Half silk half rayon means warp is
 silk and weft is rayon.
 
 Yes, it is $10 per 0.4 square inches. You only pay for the size of the
 design that will be repeated on the fabric, such as here:
 http://www.sartor.cz/gallery/pattern.jpg
 In this case you'd pay for 3*7 inches = 21 = $525. This would be a very
 large pattern, so the cost will be high. The smaller the pattern, the lower
 the price.
 
 Zuzana
 

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Re: [h-cost] custom made brocades

2009-04-26 Thread Elena House
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Zuzana Kraemerova
zkraemer...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Price: pattermanikg fee: 10$ per cm**2 (you pay for the size of one pattern 
 that is to be repeated on the fabric.)

Wow, you know, this just suddenly put the whole medieval textile
industry into perspective for me, since the type of design I most want
to see in brocade is on average at least 50cm x 150cm repeat.  You do
the math for the cost on that one (Hint: I could get one of my
dream cars for less!)  Now I truly feel what the average housewife
would have felt, while watching the nobles walk past.

That said, I am deliriously happy to hear this, and will be saving up. =}

-E House
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