Re: [h-cost] hair taping
Julie wrote: I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. I agree. I use grosgrain ribbon--I think the less slippery, the better! Melanie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] hair taping
I'm intrigued by the reference to Elizabeth's second link--I can't find the message this clearly refers to, and maybe hair taping would be helpful to me. In my annual Queen of Yore gig at a Medieval Banquet church fund-raiser, I fight with my hair (and lose) every year. The King and I (haha) don't wear headdresses--in fact, he won't even consent to a crown but last year acquiesced to my proffered filet, another of which I also wore last year to complement him. A proper headdress would be nice, but the logistics of the event, from dressing space on through chair-to-table distance (our thrones have arms) militate against it, as does the King's preference. (The king is a professional and known actor, a wonderful personality, and a very overweight man--I think his objection to crowns, rings, and other encircling things is a result of this last feature, but any of these would encourage me to defer to his strongly expressed sentiments.) I have hip-length hair, basic beige but dramatically going white in streaks. What I'd like to do is braid it and coil it over my ears (very yore)--but I can't find a reliable way of anchoring the coils. One year in frustration I gave up and piled it on top of my head and looped pearls around it; one year I just made numerous loops and tied them together above my ears--this looked very Heidi, and they flopped like Beagle's ears when I turned my head...Last year I had a notion of sewing the nested coils together with gold cord and then tieing the cord to the filet, but that was an unmitigated disaster that I ripped out with only ten minutes to spare before our grand processional entrance, settling for a bun at the nape of the neck plus those trusty pearls. Can someone direct me to a website or other directions for appropriate and manageable Yore Hair? The Burgundy-style gown has a standing collar. Ever grateful-- Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: Elisabeth Doornink [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Nov 15, 2006 9:00 PM To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [h-cost] hair taping I do hair taping just as a modern type hair do, and have found that I either need to do it when it's wet, or when I've got a bunch of small-ish claw clips to anchor the hair as I tape it. It's gotten easier and easier as my hair has grown - a twist of hair reaches from behind one ear over to the next, and the gravity of the strand helps keep it in place. Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] hair taping Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are. De -Original Message- Hi Elizabeth, Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down. Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions. Kimiko - Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping. Usually we use single faced satin ribbon. Comes out in a day. At one fair we were out of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug warp. That hair taping stayed in for 3 days! I slept with a silk scarf over it. It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies escaping. I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] hair taping
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:19 AM Subject: RE: [h-cost] hair taping I'm intrigued by the reference to Elizabeth's second link--I can't find the message this clearly refers to, and maybe hair taping would be helpful to me. snip Ever grateful-- Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer These are the two links I posted before http://www.mfgraffix.com/hird/faoilt/hairtape.html and http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/hair/Hair%20taping.htm they are both different methods of hair taping as seen in 16th century Italian images, but it's also a plausible way of anchoring headwear such as French Hoods (which is how the discussion came up) You probably couldn't find it because it was under the header 'Tudor Tailor - another review' as part of a discussion of their method of recreating the French Hood. If you've got a particular time period in mind other than 16th century Italy you probably need a hat, but if it's just generic 'medjeeval' then this technique using something non-slip to hold your hair in place and some decorative ribbon or trim over the top could give you a pretty 'olde worlde' look. Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] hair taping
Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are. De -Original Message- Hi Elizabeth, Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down. Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions. Kimiko - Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping. Usually we use single faced satin ribbon. Comes out in a day. At one fair we were out of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug warp. That hair taping stayed in for 3 days! I slept with a silk scarf over it. It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies escaping. I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] hair taping
I do hair taping just as a modern type hair do, and have found that I either need to do it when it's wet, or when I've got a bunch of small-ish claw clips to anchor the hair as I tape it. It's gotten easier and easier as my hair has grown - a twist of hair reaches from behind one ear over to the next, and the gravity of the strand helps keep it in place. Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julie Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] hair taping Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are. De -Original Message- Hi Elizabeth, Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down. Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions. Kimiko - Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping. Usually we use single faced satin ribbon. Comes out in a day. At one fair we were out of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug warp. That hair taping stayed in for 3 days! I slept with a silk scarf over it. It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies escaping. I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better. Julie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.5/534 - Release Date: 11/14/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume