Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. These have made corset making much easier!! Sandy This is so useful, and it works well for other things that will be laced too, like 14th/15th century fitted gowns. Pinning stuff closed just doesn't give you a good impression of how it is working. I use an old gown opening that I cut out of a dress I was adjusting, from the days before I started doing hand sewn lacing holes. Claire I'm another who recommends this. I think I saw this hint here many many years ago and it has been a hand, and pin saver. My hands just couldn't grip the fabric tight enough anymore to get the fit required with a corset. It really takes no time to machine baste the strips on. Whoever originally posted about this; Thanks! Catherine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
My apologies for what may be a repeat of (recent) information on this list. I am trying to track the link to a blog post I recently read (within the past two weeks) regarding using cardboard to mock-up Elizabethan payres of bodies. Does this sound familiar to anyone? The link I am looking for is *not* this one (damn you Googlefu!): http://minkipool.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/the-cardboard-corset-step-1/ *crosses fingers and hopes* ~Cherylyn --- On Sat, 1/8/11, Claire Clarke angha...@adam.com.au wrote: From: Claire Clarke angha...@adam.com.au Subject: Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Saturday, January 8, 2011, 5:00 PM Message: 8 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:56:59 -0600 From: Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns Message-ID: e1pbrmm-0001ik...@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. These have made corset making much easier!! Sandy This is so useful, and it works well for other things that will be laced too, like 14th/15th century fitted gowns. Pinning stuff closed just doesn't give you a good impression of how it is working. I use an old gown opening that I cut out of a dress I was adjusting, from the days before I started doing hand sewn lacing holes. Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
I have made the TV 110 corset pattern and found it to be easy to put together and gives a good fit. I have a large bust and the adjustments that they include in the pattern worked well for me. I echo all of the advice to make a muslin to ensure fit, and to use lacing strips instead of pinning at the closure. Another thing that helped me was to use masking tape to tape down the bones on the corset during the fitting. I have used cable ties this way, and it helps to save a little time, while still allowing for a good fit. Glynnis From: lotsofteap...@charter.net To: h-cost...@indra.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0600 Subject: [h-cost] question on corset patterns I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
For 18thC stays, which have straighter lines than the later era corsets, a possibility for making a muslin is to use cardboard. Ordinary heavy fabric won't have the vertical stiffness. The cardboard will help determine if the stays are too long, digging into an armpit, etc etc. And, of course, se duct tape to hold the cardboard pieces together! :-) -Carol On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
The LAughing Moon Corset is the one I use to teach my corset workshops, although I use both the Dore and the Silverado. The Silverado has the advantage of having bust gores, which make it much easier to adjust the bust fit (they can also be used as hip gores if extra fabric isneeded at the hip.). I would say that the instructions aren't bad, although I have my own corset method, which makes a much more durable corset than Ive ever made from a published pattern. The main thing, is to get the size right--and that means make a muslin! And make sure the side areas aren't rubbing too high. I haven't made a corset from TV patterns, although other patterns Ive used from TV, including many bodices, skirts and jackets, have worked out extremely well. Yours in cosutming,Lisa A On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0600 Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net writes: I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
This method has been promoted on the 18th century Rev War list as well. Susan NJ On Jan 8, 11, at 8:45 AM, Carol Kocian wrote: For 18thC stays, which have straighter lines than the later era corsets, a possibility for making a muslin is to use cardboard. Ordinary heavy fabric won't have the vertical stiffness. The cardboard will help determine if the stays are too long, digging into an armpit, etc etc. And, of course, se duct tape to hold the cardboard pieces together! :-) -Carol On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
Have you looked at the Mantua-Maker patterns? My Mid-Victorian corset might be better if you have lots of curves since it has gores, but my Late Victorian corset was intended to go with that type of dress. Happy sewing, Deb Salisbury The Mantua-Maker Designer and creator of quality historical sewing patterns, Renaissance to Victorian Now available: Elephant's Breath and London Smoke: Historical Colors, Names, Definitions Uses www.mantua-maker.com I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 07 Jan 2011 23:56:59 -0600 From: Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns Message-ID: e1pbrmm-0001ik...@elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. These have made corset making much easier!! Sandy This is so useful, and it works well for other things that will be laced too, like 14th/15th century fitted gowns. Pinning stuff closed just doesn't give you a good impression of how it is working. I use an old gown opening that I cut out of a dress I was adjusting, from the days before I started doing hand sewn lacing holes. Claire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] question on corset patterns
I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
I have used the Laughing Moon pattern and found it to be a very good pattern. It is easy to make (comparatively speaking) and the instructions are clear. I know other people who have used it and heard nothing but good things about it from them. KarenSeamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] question on corset patterns Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0600 I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d2791785a9daae6a9st01duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
I've made the LM corset, both styles, six time in total. They all went together easily, the instructions are clear and they fit well. The only thing that isn't clear s where the boning goes: on every seam and in between if you're a large size. The problem with all corset patterns is that they need to be fitted correctly before you even get to the sewing of them. Make a muslin! LynnD On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:18 PM, penhal...@juno.com penhal...@juno.comwrote: I have used the Laughing Moon pattern and found it to be a very good pattern. It is easy to make (comparatively speaking) and the instructions are clear. I know other people who have used it and heard nothing but good things about it from them. KarenSeamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] question on corset patterns Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0600 I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Globe Life Insurance $1* Buys $50,000 Life Insurance. Adults or Children. No Medical Exam. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d2791785a9daae6a9st01duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. These have made corset making much easier!! Sandy At 07:17 PM 1/7/2011, you wrote: I've made the LM corset, both styles, six time in total. They all went together easily, the instructions are clear and they fit well. The only thing that isn't clear s where the boning goes: on every seam and in between if you're a large size. The problem with all corset patterns is that they need to be fitted correctly before you even get to the sewing of them. Make a muslin! LynnD On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 2:18 PM, penhal...@juno.com penhal...@juno.comwrote: I have used the Laughing Moon pattern and found it to be a very good pattern. It is easy to make (comparatively speaking) and the instructions are clear. I know other people who have used it and heard nothing but good things about it from them. KarenSeamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Rebecca Schmitt lotsofteap...@charter.net To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] question on corset patterns Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 16:02:49 -0600 I am planning on making a bodice and dress from Truly Victorian's line (TV490 Ball Gown Bodice TV298 Umbrella Skirt, both from 1892). But, of course before that, I need a corset! I went to GBACG Pattern Review, and found nothing on TV's corset, but lots of great reviews on Laughing Moon's Dore corset. My usual era is Elizabethan, so if I wear a corset, it is of a very different construction. I would consider myself an intermediate sewer. Question: Do you prefer TV or LM corset, especially for a first-time Victorian sewer? Rebecca Schmitt aka Agness Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire * International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question on corset patterns
Kayta used to do that, too. Must have shown me years ago, because I've been doing it for at least 20 years myself. It really DOES make things easier. And Kayta never even added the grommets-- just used heavy denim and poked holes with a pointy tool (never an *edge* tool, which would cut fibres). == Marjorie Wilser (missing my dear fitting buddy so much today) =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:56 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger wrote: A note on fitting corset muslins: A hint I got several years ago - don't remember from where - was to create two strips out of heavy material - old jeans will do in a pinch. Make them at least double thickness, and put a narrow bone of some sort along the edge fold. Then put in grommets about every inch. Make them longer than you think you'll need for any possible corset style you might ever make. These can then be basted into a muslin so you can lace it up properly to check the fit, without having to put in grommets, try to pin it to fit (not happening), or making slits that then rip out after one fitting. Once you have the fit, remove them and use them for the next corset muslin. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
