RE: [h-cost] Re:[ h-cost] Costume photos

2007-10-04 Thread Robin Netherton

From Kate:

 Robin wrote:

 Copying pages or chunks here and there is something that
 happens every day in every university library and Kinko's.

 and Fran replied

 Ah: So since every crime and violation of law happens every
 day somewhere, it's OK for you to commit any of them?

Kate adds:

 I don't know what Kinko's is, but in a university library
 copying of a section of a book (1 chapter or 5%) for private
 study is perfectly legal.

Yes, exactly. In my post, I was attempting to draw a contrast between this sort 
of legal fair-use copying of small bits -- routine and unremarkable -- vs. the 
question of copying whole books, as discussed in the preceding paragraph of my 
post. It appears I didn't draw the distinction clearly enough to be understood 
by all, and I appreciate you and Andrew making my point clearer.

The example I gave here was my (perfectly legal) practice of copying a page or 
two here and there (along with the title page and publishing info of the book) 
so I have an accurate record of material I am citing or quoting in a scholarly 
article. I learned to do this when I realized how hard it was to read my own 
handwriting in notes that were many years old, or found that I needed to check 
something like a city of publication to put in a footnote. I sometimes do this 
even with books I own so I have all the quotations for a given article in the 
same file. Plus I can happily run a highlighter over text on a Xerox!

Kinko's, by the way, is an American chain of copy centers. That is, they were 
plain-old copy centers when they started sprouting up on college campuses a 
couple of decades ago. Now they also offer Fedex shipping, office supplies, and 
a bewildering array of printing/fax/computer services. They're open 24 hours 
and I have spent many a late night there. I once assembled an anniversary-gift 
scrapbook there at 3am using their nice selection of acid-free decorative 
papers and their good paper cutter. I figure the only thing they're missing now 
is a coffee bar.

--Robin

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Re: [h-cost] Re:[ h-cost] Costume photos

2007-10-04 Thread Lavolta Press
No library determines US copyright law.  What you are describing is 
merely the policy of your particular library.


Fran



I don't know what Kinko's is, but in a university library copying of a section
of a book (1 chapter or 5%) for private study is perfectly legal.

Kate Bunting
Cataloguing  Data Quality Librarian
University of Derby


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RE: [h-cost] Re:[ h-cost] Costume photos

2007-10-04 Thread ruthanneb
But you'll have a very hard time getting ANY published material copied at 
Kinko's. Ten years or so ago they were the subject of a big copyright-violation 
suit because they were helping/encouraging faculty to make their own 
textbooks with photocopied materials, and neither the faculty nor Kinko's 
pursued the necessary permissions. Since then, Kinko's has been DEFINITELY 
once burned, twice shy with copying. Some years ago I wanted to make little 
thank-you cards for my TWELFTH NIGHT cast, and since we had danced a lavolta as 
our curtain call I wanted to put Queen Elizabeth I Dancing with Robert Dudley, 
Earl of Leicester on the front of the card. For that I needed (lacking a color 
scanner and a color printer at home) a color photocopy of the paintingand 
the counterperson at Kinko's WOULD NOT PERMIT me to make a tiny copy for this 
innocuous purpose. Even UNpublished material: My truelove had to photocopy the 
rough draft of a repair manual he was writing, to ship it to the company he was 
writing it for--and that Kinko's counterperson, seeing technical drawings 
bearing the company's name, refused to copy it for him without a written 
release from the company.
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer
p.s. Office Max obliged both times

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Subject: RE: [h-cost] Re:[ h-cost] Costume photos


From Kate:

 Robin wrote:

 Copying pages or chunks here and there is something that
 happens every day in every university library and Kinko's.

 and Fran replied

 Ah: So since every crime and violation of law happens every
 day somewhere, it's OK for you to commit any of them?

Kate adds:

Kinko's, by the way, is an American chain of copy centers. That is, they were 
plain-old copy centers when they started sprouting up on college campuses a 
couple of decades ago. Now they also offer Fedex shipping, office supplies, 
and a bewildering array of printing/fax/computer services. They're open 24 
hours and I have spent many a late night there. I once assembled an 
anniversary-gift scrapbook there at 3am using their nice selection of 
acid-free decorative papers and their good paper cutter. I figure the only 
thing they're missing now is a coffee bar.

--Robin

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