Re: [h-cost] hair taping

2006-11-16 Thread Melanie Schuessler

Julie wrote:


I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work better.


I agree.  I use grosgrain ribbon--I think the less slippery, the better!

Melanie

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RE: [h-cost] hair taping

2006-11-16 Thread ruthanneb
I'm intrigued by the reference to Elizabeth's second link--I can't find the 
message this clearly refers to, and maybe hair taping would be helpful to me.

In my annual Queen of Yore gig at a Medieval Banquet church fund-raiser, I 
fight with my hair (and lose) every year. The King and I (haha) don't wear 
headdresses--in fact, he won't even consent to a crown but last year acquiesced 
to my proffered filet, another of which I also wore last year to complement 
him. A proper headdress would be nice, but the logistics of the event, from 
dressing space on through chair-to-table distance (our thrones have arms) 
militate against it, as does the King's preference. (The king is a professional 
and known actor, a wonderful personality, and a very overweight man--I think 
his objection to crowns, rings, and other encircling things is a result of this 
last feature, but any of these would encourage me to defer to his strongly 
expressed sentiments.)

I have hip-length hair, basic beige but dramatically going white in streaks. 
What I'd like to do is braid it and coil it over my ears (very yore)--but I 
can't find a reliable way of anchoring the coils. One year in frustration I 
gave up and piled it on top of my head and looped pearls around it; one year I 
just made numerous loops and tied them together above my ears--this looked very 
Heidi, and they flopped like Beagle's ears when I turned my head...Last year I 
had a notion of sewing the nested coils together with gold cord and then 
tieing the cord to the filet, but that was an unmitigated disaster that I 
ripped out with only ten minutes to spare before our grand processional 
entrance, settling for a bun at the nape of the neck plus those trusty pearls.

Can someone direct me to a website or other directions for appropriate and 
manageable Yore Hair? The Burgundy-style gown has a standing collar.

Ever grateful--
Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer


-Original Message-
From: Elisabeth Doornink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Nov 15, 2006 9:00 PM
To: 'Historical Costume' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [h-cost] hair taping

I do hair taping just as a modern type hair do, and have found that I either
need to do it when it's wet, or when I've got a bunch of small-ish claw
clips to anchor the hair as I tape it. It's gotten easier and easier as my
hair has grown - a twist of hair reaches from behind one ear over to the
next, and the gravity of the strand helps keep it in place. 

Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, 
Elisabeth

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Julie
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] hair taping

Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair
when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is
the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are.
De
-Original Message-
Hi Elizabeth,

  Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and
it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't
stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French
hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping
of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down.

  Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really
don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else
to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions.

  Kimiko
-
Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping.  Usually we
use single faced satin ribbon.  Comes out in a day.  At one fair we were out
of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug
warp.  That hair taping stayed in for 3 days!  I slept with a silk scarf
over it.  It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies
escaping.

I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work
better.

Julie

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Re: [h-cost] hair taping

2006-11-16 Thread Elizabeth Walpole


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To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:19 AM
Subject: RE: [h-cost] hair taping


I'm intrigued by the reference to Elizabeth's second link--I can't find 
the message this clearly refers to, and maybe hair taping would be 
helpful to me.



snip Ever grateful--

Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer

These are the two links I posted before 
http://www.mfgraffix.com/hird/faoilt/hairtape.html and 
http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/hair/Hair%20taping.htm they are both 
different methods of hair taping as seen in 16th century Italian images, but 
it's also a plausible way of anchoring headwear such as French Hoods (which 
is how the discussion came up) You probably couldn't find it because it was 
under the header 'Tudor Tailor - another review' as part of a discussion of 
their method of recreating the French Hood. If you've got a particular time 
period in mind other than 16th century Italy you probably need a hat, but if 
it's just generic 'medjeeval' then this technique using something non-slip 
to hold your hair in place and some decorative ribbon or trim over the top 
could give you a pretty 'olde worlde' look.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Walpole
Canberra Australia
ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au
http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/

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RE: [h-cost] hair taping

2006-11-15 Thread Elisabeth Doornink
I do hair taping just as a modern type hair do, and have found that I either
need to do it when it's wet, or when I've got a bunch of small-ish claw
clips to anchor the hair as I tape it. It's gotten easier and easier as my
hair has grown - a twist of hair reaches from behind one ear over to the
next, and the gravity of the strand helps keep it in place. 

Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, 
Elisabeth

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Julie
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 4:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [h-cost] hair taping

Sorry getting in the middle of the topic. Have you tried braiding your hair
when wet or with a little gel or mousse? Usually it isn't thick hair that is
the problem but how smooth/slick the strands are.
De
-Original Message-
Hi Elizabeth,

  Yes, I've tried the hair taping (as seen in the second link you gave), and
it will only stay on my head if I then wrap the hair in a kertch. It won't
stay up on its own, and it wouldn't stay stable for a base for the French
hood. Also, it falls apart in the kertch that I wore, and only the wrapping
of the fabric around my head kept it from coming down.

  Maybe it is because I am doing my own hair, it is very thick, and I really
don't do much practice in hair braiding in general. I am not sure what else
to try, so I gladly will accept suggestions.

  Kimiko
-
Maybe it has to do with what you're using for the hair taping.  Usually we
use single faced satin ribbon.  Comes out in a day.  At one fair we were out
of ribbon and so used the lucet braid I had on hand made out of cotton rug
warp.  That hair taping stayed in for 3 days!  I slept with a silk scarf
over it.  It would have stayed UP longer, but there were too many fuzzies
escaping.

I wonder if using cotton twill tape instead of satin ribbon would work
better.

Julie

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