Re: [h-cost] Money weights in accounts (was: A little help, please.)

2008-02-19 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 01:43 19/02/2008, you wrote:

 the foreparte of the George of Dyamountes the Mayle
 of the curates and Rivet of the same of Siluer half
 gilte with a sworde in his hand of gold a lozenged
 Dyamounte like a sheelde and a Dragon of gold weying
 together iij oz di di quarter

 a little George of gold to hang at a Collar of
 garters weying one ounce quarter di

 Thanks for any help with this.

 Kimiko

Joan, I believe, has the right explanation for the above citation, but
be careful. In some cases, a reference will be clear that the odd
units refer to money rather than weight. Such as:

'Item for the lynyng and mendyng of 2 vardgales 14d.' 1555. Petrie Archives

In this example, the costs are is 14d, where the d is denarius = a
unit of money.  I'm not clear how or why the Brits kept using d to
refer to the old shilling coin. Perhaps it was a silver coin just as
the roman denarius was?  I leave to someone from the other side of the
pond to explain further.


I believe that d is actually pence, not 
shillings, in English money. We used to have, 
prior to decimalisation on 15/2/71, a system of 
pounds, shillings and pence, shortened to £.s.d. 
Therefore the 14d mentioned above is actually 
14 pence, not shillings. I will try and check the 
origins of the notation - but am busy, so it might take a while.


Suzi 


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Re: [h-cost] Money weights in accounts (was: A little help, please.)

2008-02-18 Thread Cin
 the foreparte of the George of Dyamountes the Mayle
 of the curates and Rivet of the same of Siluer half
 gilte with a sworde in his hand of gold a lozenged
 Dyamounte like a sheelde and a Dragon of gold weying
 together iij oz di di quarter

 a little George of gold to hang at a Collar of
 garters weying one ounce quarter di

 Thanks for any help with this.

 Kimiko

Joan, I believe, has the right explanation for the above citation, but
be careful. In some cases, a reference will be clear that the odd
units refer to money rather than weight. Such as:

'Item for the lynyng and mendyng of 2 vardgales 14d.' 1555. Petrie Archives

In this example, the costs are is 14d, where the d is denarius = a
unit of money.  I'm not clear how or why the Brits kept using d to
refer to the old shilling coin. Perhaps it was a silver coin just as
the roman denarius was?  I leave to someone from the other side of the
pond to explain further.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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