[Haifux] Welcome to Linux: Networking

2003-11-24 Thread Alon Altman
Hi all,
  A lecture about Basic Networking will be held today(Monday) at 18:30 at
the Taub computer science building room 6, as part of the Welcome to Linux
lecture series.

For more information and lecture slides see the timetable:
  http://www.haifux.org/newcomers/timetable.html

  Alon

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[Haifux] Lecture Suggestion: Trust and Open Source

2003-11-24 Thread Alon Altman
Hi,
  I want to propose a lecture/discussion on the notion of trust and security
in open-source software development.
  The core of the lecture will be based on Ken Thompson's well-known paper
Reflections on Trusting Trust - http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/ and
will relate to ESR's bazzar philosphy and the many eyeballs assumption.
  The proposed lecture will be quite short, leaving most of the time for
discussion.
  Anyone interested?

  Alon

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Re: [Haifux] Errors when Compiling 2.4.22 with modules (fwd)

2003-11-24 Thread Orna Agmon

Guys, please use reply to all, otherwise mails will not get there!

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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:07:02 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Haifux] Errors when Compiling 2.4.22 with modules



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Baruch,
Yacoub could not read your question, I expect, because he is not
subscribed to haifux. Hence, I am re- CCing him.
Orna.

Yacoub, Baruch has a question for you.
Orna.

On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Baruch Even wrote:



* Orna Agmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031123 20:49]:


I am forwarding a question on behalf of yacoub, since I did not know what
to do about it:

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I'm trying to install kernel 2.4.22 , but I have the following
failure:

  mouting the filesystem fails at boot ,
i  have NTFS /ext3  partitions , so i configured modules support for
NTFS,ext3,dos...and automounter
   several boots lead to irrecuvarable errors , and i have to reinstall
Mandrake from CD

  when i do make module i get warnings :
   inode.c:1720: warning: concatenation of string literals with
__FUNCTION__ is deprecated


The warnings are harmless and can't lead to any problem of corruption.

The NTFS drivers are considered beta (if not alpha) and are expected to
work for read-only operation. Write operation is considered dangerous to
your health.


i once used a buffer fat32 partition to move files from linux to
windows , ..but that
was a special occasion , there isn't much use for it in general

What is strange is that the Linux partition is corrupted and not the
NTFS one(s). What sort of errors did you get before you had to
reinstall?


well this is part of the problem , dmsg and /var/log/ don't show the
particular boot messages ,..
what i remember from the flash messaages at boot ... is filesystem not
supported by kernel 
and after several boots , filesystem check fails  


Baruch

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Re: [Haifux] Lecture Suggestion: Trust and Open Source

2003-11-24 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 12:47:34PM +0200, Alon Altman wrote:
 Hi,
   I want to propose a lecture/discussion on the notion of trust and security
 in open-source software development.
   The core of the lecture will be based on Ken Thompson's well-known paper
 Reflections on Trusting Trust - http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/ and
 will relate to ESR's bazzar philosphy and the many eyeballs assumption.
   The proposed lecture will be quite short, leaving most of the time for
 discussion.
   Anyone interested?

Sounds great, but won't it be preaching to the converted? or are you
going to attack the proposition that open source is good for security?

Cheers, 
Muli 
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Re: [Haifux] Errors when Compiling 2.4.22 with modules (fwd)

2003-11-24 Thread guy keren


i would try to break the problem into two problems.

first, disable the automatic mounting of the ntfs file-system(s), and see
if you can boot into the new kernel with the ext3 partitions only.
by the way, i assume that ext3 is compiled directly into the kernel, and
NOT as a module. if this is not the case, change it to be compiled into
the kernel, and re-compile the kernel (re-compile means 'make clean' and
only then 'make') and then try again.

if you got ext3 mounting to work with the new kernel, then try to
_manually_ load the ntfs.o module, and manually mount _IN READ-ONLY MODE_
an NTFS partition - see if that works.

only after you manage to get this working - try to handle automatic
mounting during boot.

--guy

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 Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 11:07:02 +0200
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 Subject: Re: [Haifux] Errors when Compiling 2.4.22 with modules



 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Baruch,
 Yacoub could not read your question, I expect, because he is not
 subscribed to haifux. Hence, I am re- CCing him.
 Orna.
 
 Yacoub, Baruch has a question for you.
 Orna.
 
 On Sun, 23 Nov 2003, Baruch Even wrote:
 
 
 
 * Orna Agmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [031123 20:49]:
 
 
 I am forwarding a question on behalf of yacoub, since I did not know what
 to do about it:
 
 --
 
 I'm trying to install kernel 2.4.22 , but I have the following
 failure:
 
 mouting the filesystem fails at boot ,
   i  have NTFS /ext3  partitions , so i configured modules support for
 NTFS,ext3,dos...and automounter
  several boots lead to irrecuvarable errors , and i have to reinstall
 Mandrake from CD
 
 when i do make module i get warnings :
  inode.c:1720: warning: concatenation of string literals with
 __FUNCTION__ is deprecated
 
 
 The warnings are harmless and can't lead to any problem of corruption.
 
 The NTFS drivers are considered beta (if not alpha) and are expected to
 work for read-only operation. Write operation is considered dangerous to
 your health.
 
 
 i once used a buffer fat32 partition to move files from linux to
 windows , ..but that
 was a special occasion , there isn't much use for it in general

 What is strange is that the Linux partition is corrupted and not the
 NTFS one(s). What sort of errors did you get before you had to
 reinstall?
 
 
 well this is part of the problem , dmsg and /var/log/ don't show the
 particular boot messages ,..
 what i remember from the flash messaages at boot ... is filesystem not
 supported by kernel 
 and after several boots , filesystem check fails  


 Baruch
 
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Re: [Haifux] Lecture Suggestion: Trust and Open Source

2003-11-24 Thread Ori Idan
On Monday 24 November 2003 14:05, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 12:47:34PM +0200, Alon Altman wrote:
  Hi,
I want to propose a lecture/discussion on the notion of trust and
  security in open-source software development.
The core of the lecture will be based on Ken Thompson's well-known
  paper Reflections on Trusting Trust -
  http://www.acm.org/classics/sep95/ and will relate to ESR's bazzar
  philosphy and the many eyeballs assumption. The proposed lecture will
  be quite short, leaving most of the time for discussion.
Anyone interested?

 Sounds great, but won't it be preaching to the converted? or are you
 going to attack the proposition that open source is good for security?
I also think this is a great subject, Yes, it is somewhat preaching to the 
converted, but can give us all tools when we talk with other people.

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