[Haifux] Suggestions for part 2 of SiL#1

2003-12-23 Thread Alon Altman
Hi,
  Now that the SiL#1 lecture was split into two, we can add more material to
the lecture. Here are my suggestions.

  I think the following things should be added to the lecture:
   - umask
   - sTicky bit
   - a bit more on symbolic links (what happens when you delete the link
 target, etc.)

  If there is time:
   - hard links
   - device files
   - chroot

  Alon

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Re: [Haifux] Suggestions for part 2 of SiL#1

2003-12-23 Thread Orna Agmon
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Alon Altman wrote:

 Hi,
   Now that the SiL#1 lecture was split into two, we can add more material to
 the lecture. Here are my suggestions.

   I think the following things should be added to the lecture:
- umask
- sTicky bit
- a bit more on symbolic links (what happens when you delete the link
  target, etc.)

Alos, whar are the meanings of the colors ls produces- a link to such a
table or soemthing (we don't need to study colors by heart, except for
red=don't walk :) )

And I think the left slides plus what alon wrote upto this point would
fill a  lecture completely.

plus, anyone who has not heard the Hanukah story guy told us lost :)

 
   If there is time:
- hard links
- device files
- chroot

   Alon



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Re: [Haifux] Suggestions for part 2 of SiL#1

2003-12-23 Thread guy keren

On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Alon Altman wrote:

 Hi,
 Now that the SiL#1 lecture was split into two, we can add more material to
 the lecture. Here are my suggestions.

 I think the following things should be added to the lecture:
  - umask

as i shouted at the end of the first lecture - i'll talk about umask.

  - sTicky bit

*shrug* you _do_ want to confuse the listeners completely? as if umask is
not confusing enough... oh, well. i'll try to find a simple way to explain
that.

  - a bit more on symbolic links (what happens when you delete the link
target, etc.)

i'll add that to the slides.

 If there is time:
  - hard links
  - device files

device files will be covered during the 'installing a device driver'
lecture - i don't want to bring into this lecture, which will make it look
like so what?.

  - chroot

no, no, no. definately not. this is where i draw the line. there will be
no chroots in my slides! ;)
i mean that.

i'll have to think about a very good example for umask... wait a minute...
i think i got it. (to be continued...). dot dot dot.

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[Haifux] Re: Suggestions for part 2 of SiL#1

2003-12-23 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Orna Agmon wrote:

 On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Alon Altman wrote:

  Hi,
Now that the SiL#1 lecture was split into two, we can add more material to
  the lecture. Here are my suggestions.
 
I think the following things should be added to the lecture:
 - umask
 - sTicky bit
 - a bit more on symbolic links (what happens when you delete the link
   target, etc.)

 Alos, whar are the meanings of the colors ls produces- a link to such a
 table or soemthing (we don't need to study colors by heart, except for
 red=don't walk :) )


Well, three notes are in order:

1. The exact colors are user configurable (via the LS_COLORS env var or
otherwise) and may vary from distribution to distribution or from system
to system.

2. ls can color files which match a certain glob in different colors, like
*.zip or *.gz. This is a coloring that is only a convenience and does not
indicate that the file is special in any way. (it may also not belong to
its correct type).

3. colors can be misleading. For example, on my Mandrake system, all files
ending with .sh are colored green (which is the same color for
exacutables) even if they are not executable. I remember trying to execute
a shell script I prepared because I saw its color was green (./upload.sh)
only to discover it was not executable as far as its permissions were
concerned.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

 And I think the left slides plus what alon wrote upto this point would
 fill a  lecture completely.

 plus, anyone who has not heard the Hanukah story guy told us lost :)

  
If there is time:
 - hard links
 - device files
 - chroot
 
Alon
 
 

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