Re: [Haifux] Let's face it! (was W2L discussion)

2008-09-05 Thread Eli Billauer
Oron Peled wrote:

 If it points to haifux.org for the real info, than that's fine.
 However, I would not like it to become *the* principal haifux
 announcement board.
   
Completely agreed. I would take it even further: No events should ever 
be announced there.

I see no advantage in announcing events in Facebook, since all members 
would get the message anyhow through the mailing list. On the other 
hand, that would require another place to keep in sync for scheduling 
and rescheduling lectures. Plus a possibility for contradicting information.

But opening a Facebook so that people can announce that they belong to 
it, could be a piece of advertisement. It should indeed only give a 
short description about what Haifux is, and point to the site. If events 
are announced there, someone may get the impression it's a reliable source.

Eli

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Re: [Haifux] Let's face it! (was W2L discussion)

2008-09-05 Thread Orr Dunkelman
That sounds as a good idea, and I support Eli and Oron's point of view
(I personally do not have facebook account).

If somebody would be willing to open such a group, with a bit of
information on haifux + links to haifux that would be nice.

Note that hiafux has a google calendar, which gives you RSS
capabilities AFAIK, so as long as you can sync it with the calendar -
you're fine (the calendar and the website are usually updated with 10
minutes difference).

As for what Zvi suggested - for that we need to have a backlog of
lectures, where we know in advance the lectures two/three weeks in
advance. Recently, this is not the case, and our schedule is usually
empty.

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Eli Billauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oron Peled wrote:

 If it points to haifux.org for the real info, than that's fine.
 However, I would not like it to become *the* principal haifux
 announcement board.

 Completely agreed. I would take it even further: No events should ever
 be announced there.

 I see no advantage in announcing events in Facebook, since all members
 would get the message anyhow through the mailing list. On the other
 hand, that would require another place to keep in sync for scheduling
 and rescheduling lectures. Plus a possibility for contradicting information.

 But opening a Facebook so that people can announce that they belong to
 it, could be a piece of advertisement. It should indeed only give a
 short description about what Haifux is, and point to the site. If events
 are announced there, someone may get the impression it's a reliable source.

Eli

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Re: [Haifux] Let's face it! (was W2L discussion)

2008-09-05 Thread Orr Dunkelman
BTW, for those in linkedin, I've already started such a group, feel
free to join.

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That sounds as a good idea, and I support Eli and Oron's point of view
 (I personally do not have facebook account).

 If somebody would be willing to open such a group, with a bit of
 information on haifux + links to haifux that would be nice.

 Note that hiafux has a google calendar, which gives you RSS
 capabilities AFAIK, so as long as you can sync it with the calendar -
 you're fine (the calendar and the website are usually updated with 10
 minutes difference).

 As for what Zvi suggested - for that we need to have a backlog of
 lectures, where we know in advance the lectures two/three weeks in
 advance. Recently, this is not the case, and our schedule is usually
 empty.

 On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:27 AM, Eli Billauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Oron Peled wrote:

 If it points to haifux.org for the real info, than that's fine.
 However, I would not like it to become *the* principal haifux
 announcement board.

 Completely agreed. I would take it even further: No events should ever
 be announced there.

 I see no advantage in announcing events in Facebook, since all members
 would get the message anyhow through the mailing list. On the other
 hand, that would require another place to keep in sync for scheduling
 and rescheduling lectures. Plus a possibility for contradicting information.

 But opening a Facebook so that people can announce that they belong to
 it, could be a piece of advertisement. It should indeed only give a
 short description about what Haifux is, and point to the site. If events
 are announced there, someone may get the impression it's a reliable source.

Eli

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Re: [Haifux] Let's face it! (was W2L discussion)

2008-09-05 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/5 Eli Billauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Completely agreed. I would take it even further: No events should ever
 be announced there.


This is the problem: people would _expect_ events to be posted there.
Suppose a hypothetical Udi finds haifux on facebook. He signs up. Now,
he expects all his info to come down that channel. What?!?, thinks
Udi, I now have to go to another _website_ for info on this facebook
group?!? wtf?!? and now he thinks bad of haifux.

Multiply this by all the linkedins and mysplats and it will be a disaster.

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Re: [Haifux] Let's face it! (was W2L discussion)

2008-09-05 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Exactly, so only if you can make sure that the data is updated in all
places simultaneously put it.

Otherwise, put a note saying we're sorry but due to frequent change
of schedule, the best place for updates is www.haifux.org or RSSing
from ...

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 2008/9/5 Eli Billauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Completely agreed. I would take it even further: No events should ever
 be announced there.


 This is the problem: people would _expect_ events to be posted there.
 Suppose a hypothetical Udi finds haifux on facebook. He signs up. Now,
 he expects all his info to come down that channel. What?!?, thinks
 Udi, I now have to go to another _website_ for info on this facebook
 group?!? wtf?!? and now he thinks bad of haifux.

 Multiply this by all the linkedins and mysplats and it will be a disaster.

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 http://gibberish.co.il
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[Haifux] [HAIFUX Lecture] The Ruby programming language by Ohad Lutzky

2008-09-05 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Next Monday, 8th of September, at 18:30, haifux is about to meet and
hear Ohad Lutzky's talk about

The Ruby programming language

Ruby is a modern, elegant programming language. It can be described as
dynamic and object-oriented. Others call it a scripting language. It
has recently become quite popular, thanks to the Ruby on Rails web
development kit. In this lecture I will present the language and try
to show some of the neat things about it. A background in programming
(and preferably some knowledge of object-oriented programming) will be
required for this lecture.

==

Before the talk, a short discussion (10 minutes tops!) of how, when,
and if to hold W2L series will take place. It'll start exactly on
18:30. All comments and views are welcome.

==

We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see:
http://www.haifux.org/where.html

Attendance is free, and you are all invited!

==

We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish
to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux
might be interested in, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Lecture] The Ruby programming language by Ohad Lutzky

2008-09-05 Thread Ohad Lutzky
Hello All,

I'm afraid I'm going to have to postpone Monday's lecture to the
following Monday, as it turns out I won't be able to arrive. I suggest
that the W2L discussion remain.

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Next Monday, 8th of September, at 18:30, haifux is about to meet and
 hear Ohad Lutzky's talk about

The Ruby programming language

 Ruby is a modern, elegant programming language. It can be described as
 dynamic and object-oriented. Others call it a scripting language. It
 has recently become quite popular, thanks to the Ruby on Rails web
 development kit. In this lecture I will present the language and try
 to show some of the neat things about it. A background in programming
 (and preferably some knowledge of object-oriented programming) will be
 required for this lecture.

 ==

 Before the talk, a short discussion (10 minutes tops!) of how, when,
 and if to hold W2L series will take place. It'll start exactly on
 18:30. All comments and views are welcome.

 ==

 We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see:
 http://www.haifux.org/where.html

 Attendance is free, and you are all invited!

 ==

 We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish
 to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux
 might be interested in, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 --
 Orr Dunkelman,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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what they ought to be.
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Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX Lecture] The Ruby programming language by Ohad Lutzky

2008-09-05 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Friday 05 September 2008, Ohad Lutzky wrote:
 Hello All,

 I'm afraid I'm going to have to postpone Monday's lecture to the
 following Monday, as it turns out I won't be able to arrive. 

Just a note - instead of be able to arrive it should be be able to come. 
Israelis have for a long time used Heg'ia3 instead of Ba' in Hebrew, and 
now it seems to have infiltrated their use of English:

* http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/arrive

* http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/come

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

 I suggest 
 that the W2L discussion remain.


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