Re: [Haifux] Welcome2Linux?
Orna, I understand your point and agree with it, nevertheless, I believe there are a lot of skilled programmers and super users out there that tend to think Linux is no more than an old dos window for geeks', unusable for the desktop user (i.e - them, while not doing sudo stuff) and so on... I would like to show them the true face and powers of the GNU/Linux system - as I did with my friends. The series should target existing power / super users that currently work solely with Windows - kind of: Look, this is how it looks like, this is how you do this task under Linux I noticed the Haifux calendar is wide open for the neear future. I am willing to do the lectures myself (although, I am not a gifted lecturer as others I've seen). I'll need help with spreading the word through the right channels - to get to the right target audiance. Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 15:08, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Amichai, On a personal note, I am tired of being a missionary and bored of preaching. I feel Linux has become mainstream enough for Haifux to focus on higher-level topics, which are more interesting for the hard core of the Linux club, rather than working on PR/introductory lectures for strangers. I would like to see Haifux more as a meeting place for enthusiasts, along the original lines of guy's LUPG (http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/http://users.actcom.co.il/%7Echoo/lupg/) and along the lines of the first years of the club, where people would learn a subject and then teach it to others. We have been recycling lectures and generally stepping in place - I would like to see Haifux moving on to new professional territories, one of which is parallel programming. I would also like to see Haifux community collaborative projects alive and kicking again. On a more general note, Shlomi Fish has a lot of energy for W2L, but he spends it in Tel Aviv. A project such as W2L requires a lot of energy from several people. If there are not enough energetic people, there is no W2L. Orna. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.ilwrote: Hello Haifa Linuxers! I wonder - why was it so long since we had Welcome 2 Linux lectures in Haifa? I had a couple of friends at home a week a go that have just installed Linux on their Laptops. One of them told me he haven't turned on his Window$ machine for more than a week and he is really happy with his Ubuntu 8.10 install (everything works - even WiFi) but he would like to know some more, have a better understanding of the inner workings of the Linux OS. I came across the Linux Reality http://www.linuxreality.com Podcast and thought we could hold a series of lectures along the lines of the Podcast outline. Please don't flame me too much [?] .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux 347.png___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Welcome2Linux?
Hi Amichai, Haifux Calendar is not really wide open - actually, it is booked until May, which is four months from now. However, regular Haifux lectures are only every other week. During W2L we usually stop all Haifux activity, and give weekly lectures. This hurts the club's activity. If you (or anybody else) wishes to organize a W2L series (proposal - targeting the next spring semester) you can make use of the open slots, that is you can get the room every other week, without hurting the schedule. From what I saw of the faculty's occupancy at this time, you can probably ask for another room if you want to give the lectures every week. Orna. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:29 PM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.ilwrote: Orna, I understand your point and agree with it, nevertheless, I believe there are a lot of skilled programmers and super users out there that tend to think Linux is no more than an old dos window for geeks', unusable for the desktop user (i.e - them, while not doing sudo stuff) and so on... I would like to show them the true face and powers of the GNU/Linux system - as I did with my friends. The series should target existing power / super users that currently work solely with Windows - kind of: Look, this is how it looks like, this is how you do this task under Linux I noticed the Haifux calendar is wide open for the neear future. I am willing to do the lectures myself (although, I am not a gifted lecturer as others I've seen). I'll need help with spreading the word through the right channels - to get to the right target audiance. Thanks! .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 15:08, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Amichai, On a personal note, I am tired of being a missionary and bored of preaching. I feel Linux has become mainstream enough for Haifux to focus on higher-level topics, which are more interesting for the hard core of the Linux club, rather than working on PR/introductory lectures for strangers. I would like to see Haifux more as a meeting place for enthusiasts, along the original lines of guy's LUPG (http://users.actcom.co.il/~choo/lupg/http://users.actcom.co.il/%7Echoo/lupg/) and along the lines of the first years of the club, where people would learn a subject and then teach it to others. We have been recycling lectures and generally stepping in place - I would like to see Haifux moving on to new professional territories, one of which is parallel programming. I would also like to see Haifux community collaborative projects alive and kicking again. On a more general note, Shlomi Fish has a lot of energy for W2L, but he spends it in Tel Aviv. A project such as W2L requires a lot of energy from several people. If there are not enough energetic people, there is no W2L. Orna. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.ilwrote: Hello Haifa Linuxers! I wonder - why was it so long since we had Welcome 2 Linux lectures in Haifa? I had a couple of friends at home a week a go that have just installed Linux on their Laptops. One of them told me he haven't turned on his Window$ machine for more than a week and he is really happy with his Ubuntu 8.10 install (everything works - even WiFi) but he would like to know some more, have a better understanding of the inner workings of the Linux OS. I came across the Linux Reality http://www.linuxreality.com Podcast and thought we could hold a series of lectures along the lines of the Podcast outline. Please don't flame me too much [?] .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Lecture Suggestion - Disco Project, an open source Map-Reduce framework based on Erlang and Python (mostly Python :-) )
I am interested too. I would like to hear a lecture about Mono as well. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Hai Zaar haiz...@gmail.com wrote: -- Zaar On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Eran Sandler e...@sandler.co.il wrote: Hi all, It's been a while since I've posted to Haifux (or Linux-IL for that matter) but I am watching the mailing list from time to time and due to personal reasons found myself as a Haifa citizen for the past year (and probably for a couple more years :-) ). Somewhere in 2004 I even did a lecture on Mono, the open source .NET implementation, if some of you recall. Recently I've been involved with a cool open source project called Disco. Disco is an open source Map-Reduce framework written in Erlang and Python. It was written at Nokia's Palo Alto research center as a lightweight framework for rapid scripting of distributed data processing tasks but grew to become even more than that and is now even used for probabilistic modeling, data mining, full text indexing, etc. You can read more about Disco at http://discoproject.org Would a lecture on Map-Reduce in general and specifically Disco would interest people? Yes, I would be very interested to attend. If so, I'm more than willing to give the lecture and show some examples. Eran ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Lecture Suggestion - Disco Project, an open source Map-Reduce framework based on Erlang and Python (mostly Python :-) )
Thanks for the explanation Orna :-) It would also be interesting to have a lecture on Hadoop just to show another Map-Reduce implementation out on the wild and also to compare Disco to Hadoop. I guess an additional follow up lecture on Hadoop can work but I'm less familiar with it (and all of its components - and it has quite a few) than I am with Disco. Eran On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:13 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.comwrote: In short, this is the method google use for parallel processing. Every operation which needs to be parallel is divided into a mapping stage (where each worker does something on their own data, and produces a result) and a reduction stage, where the results of the map are collected into a meaningful result. This parallelization scheme is highly scalable. This (upcoming) Sunday's slides on Map-Reduce from the concurrent and Distributed Programming course: http://webcourse.cs.technion.ac.il/236370/Winter2008-2009/ho/WCFiles/map-reduce-lecture.pdf And a canonical paper, linked from the same place: http://labs.google.com/papers/mapreduce-osdi04.pdf Orna. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:27 PM, guy keren c...@actcom.co.il wrote: can you explain, briefly, what map-reduce is, so those not in the know (like me) will be able to decide if this is interesting? ;) thanks, --guy Eran Sandler wrote: Hi all, It's been a while since I've posted to Haifux (or Linux-IL for that matter) but I am watching the mailing list from time to time and due to personal reasons found myself as a Haifa citizen for the past year (and probably for a couple more years :-) ). Somewhere in 2004 I even did a lecture on Mono, the open source .NET implementation, if some of you recall. Recently I've been involved with a cool open source project called Disco. Disco is an open source Map-Reduce framework written in Erlang and Python. It was written at Nokia's Palo Alto research center as a lightweight framework for rapid scripting of distributed data processing tasks but grew to become even more than that and is now even used for probabilistic modeling, data mining, full text indexing, etc. You can read more about Disco at http://discoproject.org Would a lecture on Map-Reduce in general and specifically Disco would interest people? If so, I'm more than willing to give the lecture and show some examples. Eran ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
