Re: [Haifux] UBUNTU instalation
Upon second thought, It seems very logical that a Save full state file will contain the same installation tags as the original (Manually installed as opposed to a dependency). I don't know this for certain but I believe automatic dependency deletion should still work on the target machine. Just seems very logical to me. Anyways, checking this shouldn't be hard. Anyways, I still recommend using ghost to copy machines instead of these mass apt-get methods. Ghost gives you the option of doing other customizations besides the package list, such as editing configuration files, changing themes, gconf settings, aliases etc... Linux also has the advantage that it doesn't require a different image file for each different hardware type. Just make sure the hard drive you create the image on is the smallest of all the target hard drives. Dave. On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 09:23, Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 12:41 AM, Dave Roi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note that if you use these mass installation methods, ALL packages will be marked as manually installed (as opposed to most of them being dependencies). The result of this is that if you later choose to uninstall a package, it won't uninstall it's dependencies (using aptitude or apt-get autoremove). For this exact reason, I recommend against any of those solutions (including the original one). Just save a list of packages you want (I'll be very surprised if there are more than 50) and apt-get install all of them. You'll want to be keeping them all at the latest version for your release of choice anyway. -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Ohad Lutzky ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] UBUNTU instalation
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 02:00:44AM +0300, Dave Roi wrote: Upon second thought, It seems very logical that a Save full state file will contain the same installation tags as the original (Manually installed as opposed to a dependency). I don't know this for certain but I believe automatic dependency deletion should still work on the target machine. Just seems very logical to me. Anyways, checking this shouldn't be hard. Anyways, I still recommend using ghost to copy machines instead of these mass apt-get methods. Ghost gives you the option of doing other customizations besides the package list, such as editing configuration files, changing themes, gconf settings, aliases etc... Linux also has the advantage that it doesn't require a different image file for each different hardware type. Just make sure the hard drive you create the image on is the smallest of all the target hard drives. But then you don't know what those customizations are, and can't reproduce them when you need to do a small change. E.g. install the same configuration in ain a few monthes. Recall that the D-I system already install security updates at system install time, as they use apt to install packages. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
[Haifux] UBUNTU instalation
Hi
I am installing Ubuntu 8.04 workstation (i386) on 2 different PCs (different
hardware).
I want the 2 PCs to be installed the same
On the first pc
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then using synaptic package manager I
installed a long list of packages
To get the list in a file I used:
dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.1
On the second computer
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then used
cat pkg_list.1 | sudo aptitude install
sudo aptitude upgrade
dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.2
The problem is that pkg_list.1 pkg_list.2 are different
How do I make the installed list to be identical
Thanks
Shahar
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Re: [Haifux] UBUNTU instalation
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:31 AM, Shahar Dag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I am installing Ubuntu 8.04 workstation (i386) on 2 different PCs (different
hardware).
I want the 2 PCs to be installed the same
On the first pc
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then using synaptic package manager I
installed a long list of packages
To get the list in a file I used:
dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.1
On the second computer
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then used
cat pkg_list.1 | sudo aptitude install
sudo aptitude upgrade
dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.2
The problem is that pkg_list.1 pkg_list.2 are different
How do I make the installed list to be identical
I think it would be useful to know what the difference between the lists is.
--
Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only
animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and
what they ought to be.
- William Hazlitt
Ohad Lutzky
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Re: [Haifux] UBUNTU instalation
There is a much easier way to do this.
Synaptic has a feature that creates the installation script for you.
In Synaptic under File-Generate package download script.
You can also use the File-Save markings and File-Read markings to do the
about same thing.
If you want to mark all the packages in a specific machine just do
File-Save markings and tick the box that says Save full state, not only
changes.
I've used the second technique and it works great.
Dave.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 09:31, Shahar Dag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I am installing Ubuntu 8.04 workstation (i386) on 2 different PCs
(different hardware).
I want the 2 PCs to be installed the same
On the first pc
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then using synaptic package manager I
installed a long list of packages
To get the list in a file I used:
*dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.1*
* *
On the second computer
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then used
cat pkg_list.1 | sudo aptitude install
sudo aptitude upgrade
*dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.2*
* *
The problem is that pkg_list.1 pkg_list.2 are different
How do I make the installed list to be identical
Thanks
Shahar
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Re: [Haifux] UBUNTU instalation
Note that if you use these mass installation methods, ALL packages will be
marked as manually installed (as opposed to most of them being
dependencies).
The result of this is that if you later choose to uninstall a package, it
won't uninstall it's dependencies (using aptitude or apt-get autoremove).
Dave.
P.S sorry for the double email.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 00:33, Dave Roi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is a much easier way to do this.
Synaptic has a feature that creates the installation script for you.
In Synaptic under File-Generate package download script.
You can also use the File-Save markings and File-Read markings to do the
about same thing.
If you want to mark all the packages in a specific machine just do
File-Save markings and tick the box that says Save full state, not only
changes.
I've used the second technique and it works great.
Dave.
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 09:31, Shahar Dag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
I am installing Ubuntu 8.04 workstation (i386) on 2 different PCs
(different hardware).
I want the 2 PCs to be installed the same
On the first pc
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then using synaptic package manager I
installed a long list of packages
To get the list in a file I used:
*dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.1*
* *
On the second computer
I installed Ubuntu from the CD and then used
cat pkg_list.1 | sudo aptitude install
sudo aptitude upgrade
*dpkg-query -W -f='${status} ${Package}=${Version}\n'|grep ^install ok
installed| cut -d' ' -f4,4 pkg_list.2*
* *
The problem is that pkg_list.1 pkg_list.2 are different
How do I make the installed list to be identical
Thanks
Shahar
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