Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them! +1 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 12:37, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them yup... and if I wasn't spending so much effort trying to reverse-read upside-down conversations to try to work out what part of a reply might be in relation to a previous comment, I would have more time to devote to those other issues. In all seriousness... when posting to a mailing list of many hundreds (or more) people, it strikes me as presumptuous (if not a little rude) to assume that the as the writer the minute extra of my time it would take me to compose well a reply is more important to save than the accumulated hundreds of minutes of effort the readership have to expend :-/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 13:37, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) What, like this? https://twitter.com/__Freakyclown__/status/471250625335164928 :) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 12:51, Michael Pavling pavl...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2014 12:37, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them yup... and if I wasn't spending so much effort trying to reverse-read upside-down conversations to try to work out what part of a reply might be in relation to a previous comment, I would have more time to devote to those other issues. In all seriousness... when posting to a mailing list of many hundreds (or more) people, it strikes me as presumptuous (if not a little rude) to assume that the as the writer the minute extra of my time it would take me to compose well a reply is more important to save than the accumulated hundreds of minutes of effort the readership have to expend :-/ Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? If it really were, then all mail clients would make top-posting hard. The fact that most of the corporate mail clients don't speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks email should work. Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Anton -- Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos:http://www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37](http://www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 12:54, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? If it really were, then all mail clients would make top-posting hard. If I wrote my reply in ROT13, it would be harder to read. Ohg rznvy pyvragf qba'g cerirag zr sebz qbvat fb. The fact that most of the corporate mail clients don't speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks email should work. Writing an email at the top because that's where the cursor is, is like messing in your trousers because that's where your backside is. (sanitised for a family-friendly list :-) That cursors appear at the top is a good thing - if it defaulted to the bottom, I'd have to scroll all the way back up to start reading the content of the email. But just because I read from the top, doesn't mean that's where my reply should go. It *should* go wherever is best for it. Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Quite... it's a very different issue though (I'd rather see malaria eradicated... but it has little to do with a discussion about top-posting ;-) PS You might notice that I don't 'bottom post' or 'top post'... I try to make my replies address the content I'm talking about. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On a side note this is how all the emails read if you use delete a lot unnecessary words :) …. worry about the little things that need more time and attention brought to them if I was spending so much effort to read conversations to try to work out a reply in relation to a comment, I would devote more time to to those other issues. In all seriousness… the minute of my time it would take me to compose a reply is more important than the accumulated hundreds of minutes of Your presumption and speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks I'd rather see that No trees were destroyed, however, a significant number were -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? A: Well, you wouldn't want to hear the punchline before the joke, would you? Q: Why is top posting bad? Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Secure email was solved many years ago. That it is not prevalent is simply because very few people care enough to use it. Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On Tuesday 27 May 2014 12:54:48 Anton Piatek wrote: Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? I find it so much harder to read that I usually just give up in despair. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 12:54, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? If it really were, then all mail clients would make top-posting hard. The fact that most of the corporate mail clients don't speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks email should work. Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Ironically Anton's reply was easier to read and made a lot more sense because it was interleaved. I just tried to imagine what this thread itself would be like to read if it was all written in untrimmed GMail/Outlook/Apple top-posted form. I think it would be up to 340+ messages by now with Owain's original repeated 25 times. -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:54:48 +0100 Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Hello Anton, because everything flows nicely, as it should. page looking for the start of the next paragraph? No, of course not, Finally, when reading a book, do you expect to have to jump about the From right to left, yes, but not bottom to top. My point being, no written language truly writes from bottom to top. now that I've done it? me to prove a point. Are you still as sure it's still as easy to read It's certainly not easier. Anyhow, nobody posts bottom to top, except Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent This disease is catching Into The Valley - Skids signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
