Re: [Hampshire] Freenode
On Wed, 19 May 2021 at 11:24, Neil Stone via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > Ladies and Gentlemen, > > There's been a bit of a s**t storm going on with the Freenode network it > seems (all behind the scenes). > > Some details are available via: > https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt > https://web.archive.org/web/20210514121343/https://p.haavard.me/407 > https://gist.github.com/joepie91/df80d8d36cd9d1bde46ba018af497409 > http://techrights.org/2021/05/13/private-internet-access-and-freenode/ > https://coevoet.fr/freenode.html > The haavard.me post that was taken down due to being premature has been updated and posted officially http://kline.sh/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Configuring Sendmail to Internet
On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 21:20, Imran Chaudhry via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > I understand that sendmail can be configured to just use itself > locally to send mail - happy days, but people have told me that it > might open up a can worms such as configuring SPF records etc. > While not helpful for the configuration of Sendmail directly, I can help with SPF: If you don't currently have any SPF records that indicate your ISP's mailserver then you will not be penalised further by changing to your own server sending directly instead of via the smarthost. However, you should consider adding an SPF record anyway, even if you remain using a smarthost. Your SPF record should be a DNS record of the type `TXT` which contains the definition similar to: v=spf1 mx -all You can add extra items such as: - `a` - tells the receiving mail server to accept any IP address specified in an A record matching your domain, useful to indicate that your webserver at example.com is also able to send mail directly on your behalf. - `a:example.com` - same as `a` but includes the name of the domain you want the A record for. - `mx` - tells the receiving mail server to accept any IP address specified in a matching MX record for your domain. - `ip4:127.0.0.1` - i.e. any valid IPv4 address. - `ip6:fe80::1` - i.e. any valid IPv6 address. - `include:example.com` - use the SPF rules specified by example.com to augment any rules specified directly. The `include` directive can be useful e.g. for cases where you also send mail labelled as from your domain via a third-party server such as Gmail: `include:_spf.google.com`. Full documentation is at http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax As another example here is the SPF record I use on my own domain, bowlhat.net, which allows my main webserver to send mail in addition to allowing my Gsuite setup from Google: "v=spf1 a include:_spf.google.com ~all" I use ~all to cause a SOFTFAIL on any non-matching email where the receiving email either says "I'm not available right now, try again later" or accepts and receives the full email but sends it into the SPAM folder. A HARDFAIL can be indicated by stating -all, which will cause the receiving server to issue a direct refusal rather than a try again message. I hope this helps, Dan. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] libgtk-1.2.so.0
On Wed, 16 May 2018 at 12:10, Peter Alefounder via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > James Courtier-Dutton said: > > There are multiple Linux tools that can do that. > > A popular one is "blender" > > I do not have the correct versions of libc.so.6 and libm.so.6 for > blender. An attempt to install a new libc resulted in further errors: > GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._pk_5ftransaction_5ferror.Code20: > > MIME type not supported > You really don't want to be messing with libc if you can avoid it. There be dragons for the unwary. That was from an rpm version; I have not found a Debian file for it. > Blender should be in the debian archives to install via apt, or if you fancy trying the new hotness you can get it as a snap. If you go the snap route: - On debian, for snaps you'll need to install snapd from the archive. - On Ubuntu you should have it already. Once you have snapd installed, run `sudo snap install blender`, log out and back in again and everything should be set. -- Dan. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Windows problem
On 15 January 2018 at 17:48, Roger Munford via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > However thank you very much for coming to my aid. > Isn't the linux community great, that even when your problem is decidedly not-linux you can still get the help you need?! :-) -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] How to de-install non-free Radeon drivers without uninstalling all of X.org
On 25 July 2017 at 16:03, Imran Chaudhry via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > > When I realized that an ATI Radeon GPU was present I then installed > the linux-firmware-nonfree package thinking that it would unlock the > full power of the GPU. On reboot however we found that although the > screen brightness could now be controlled, the graphical desktop was > slower than the opensource drivers. Moving windows shows a visible > re-draw and using a browser scrolling web pages seems to be slow. > linux-firmware-nonfree does NOT include any drivers. It only updates the firmware used inside devices in the system but not the software that drives them. There is documentation about the available graphics drivers for AMD and ATI cards here [1]. Of note is that if you're running Debian 8 (Jessie) with Gnome then you won't be able to run the proprietary drivers due to them not supplying the EGL protocol required [2]. The pattern to install the proprietary driver is to enable the non-free repository in APT and then install the packages linux-headers- and fglrx-driver: $ sudo aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') fglrx-driver [1] https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary [2] https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information#gnome-fglrx -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] problem installing silentcast
On 14 July 2017 at 16:35, Peter Alefounder via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > > "Why, this is hell, nor am I out of it:" > > My desktop machine is running Debian Wheezy and is not connected to > the internet, which is why it would not be easy to install silentcast > on that. One reason for getting the laptop was for the odd occasion > when more up-to-date software was wanted. Then someone decides to > remove ffmpeg from Ubuntu! > Dependency hell is only overcome when you give yourself over completely to the APT way of doing things (or dnf for the RedHats, or whatever the SuSEs use...). Mixing and matching leads to the problems that these systems try to protect you from. Source installs are similar to using RPM packages on a Debian-based system in that they break the dependency hell protections of using a package manager. If it helps, a more recent release of Ubuntu (namely 16.04, Xenial Xerus) _does_ include ffmpeg so you might be able to get silentcast's deb package working easier there, but that will either require a complete reinstall of your system using the DVD download _or_ an online upgrade which requires you to be connected to the internet while it downloads everything for the upgrade. An upgrade downloads upgraded packages rather than a single OS Image, and upgrades each package in-turn similar to how security updates are delivered but in a more brutal way if it goes belly-up part way through. Anecdotally I've never had an issue upgrading using the online upgrade but I've heard others have had problems every time they try. The online upgrade can be triggered, once you have an internet connection, with the command `do-release-upgrade` in a terminal, or via the system updater app in the dash. Both should detect that you're running an older release and offer to upgrade you to 16.04. Though as you're running a Dell, there might be some packages that Dell provide in their default install (if it came with Ubuntu out of the box) which don't work on an updated release of Ubuntu. If you installed Ubuntu yourself then I would not expect this to be an issue. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] problem installing silentcast
On 13 July 2017 at 17:51, Peter Alefounder via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > > The installation was done by Dell. My web searches have revealed that > I am not the only one with this problem. It appears that ffmpeg was > left out of Ubuntu 14.04 for reasons unknown. > I wasn't aware of it not being available in 14.04. > Installing ffmpeg from source won't satisfy apt dependencies, > > Whyever not? That appears to be an entirely unreasonable restriction. > APT cannot know how or where you install something that isn't in a deb package. > so you either need to get the universe repo enabled and install > > ffmpeg through apt > > How do I enable the universe repo? > If ffmpeg isn't in the 14.04 release then enabling the universe repo won't help > > or you need to compile silentcast yourself. > > I don't think the source code is available, but will investigate. > > I obtained a deb file for ffmpeg, moved it to /var/cache/apt/archives/ > and tried to install from there (a procedure that has worked for > something else), but got this: > > pra@pra-Inspiron-15-3552:~/software$ sudo apt-get install ffmpeg > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Package ffmpeg is not available, but is referred to by another > package. > This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or > is only available from another source > The way you install deb packages from file rather than a repository is to use dpkg directly: dpkg -i /path/to/downloaded-ffmpeg-debfile.deb However if the package is from a more recent release of Ubuntu then it will likely depend on package versions that are only in that later release, so you'll be descending into the dependency hell that APT was designed to prevent. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] problem installing silentcast
On 12 July 2017 at 12:03, Peter Alefounder via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies. > silentcast : Depends: ffmpeg but it is not installable > E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. > pra@pra-Inspiron-15-3552:~$ which ffmpeg > /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg > > Any ideas on how to fix this? ffmpeg is in universe. This repository should be enabled by default unless you have a minimal installation provided by some vps/cloud providers. Installing ffmpeg from source won't satisfy apt dependencies, so you either need to get the universe repo enabled and install ffmpeg through apt or you need to compile silentcast yourself. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] HDDs and UUID
On 16 February 2017 at 12:21, Rob Malpass via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > Hi all (sorry for various tests, had forgotten which email account I use > to subscribe to this list) > > > > At present, I have a (3.5” sata) drive connected to my Ubuntu machine via > one of those docking station things – I couldn’t be bothered opening up the > case at the time and as it’s only a media server, I thought no more about > it. > > > > Now I’m considering buying a 4 bay JBOD enclosure and I’d like to move the > drive into that. At present, the drive is mounted via putting its uuid in > the /etc/fstab. Simple question (which I know I could work out just by > swapping the drive but please humour me): if I swap the drive out of its > caddy and put it into the jbod, will it still be noticed. The question > I’m basically asking is : Is the uuid associated with the drive unit or the > controller in the caddy? > AFAIK the UUID is on the _filesystem_. i.e. using a cloner (dd) will duplicate the UUID onto a separate partition - this can cause problems when trying to mount-by-UUID due to two instances of the same supposedly unique identifier. The 4-bay enclosure, if it is connected to a standard PC exposing the disks as individual disks with partitions then everything will carry-on working fine. However, if it is a "smart" enclosure (which exposes a single device to a PC) or a NAS enclosure (connected to the network rather than a PC) with it's own OS then you will likely not be able to access the linux partitions on the drive because the enclosure wants to do everything itself. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Test - please ignore
On 16 February 2017 at 12:18, Rob Malpass via Hampshire < hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote: > 54321 > I'm sorry, Dave, I can't do that.. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Nasty email purporting to come from the US
On 21/04/16 21:10, Ian Park wrote: > "Purchase Order, 11300 / 0002323808, has been Dispatched. Please detach > and print the attached Purchase Order." > > The attachment was a .tgz file containing a 6.2kB javascript file - a > method of attack which I haven't seen before. Needless to report that I > didn't attempt to run said javascript file! Has anyone else come across > this method of attack? Yes, I've seen many similar to these over the past month. They started sending sometime in february or march and my own spambox has been inundated with variations on the theme trying to catch-me-out and get me to open one of the malware-laden attachments. -- Daniel Llewellyn | PGP/GnuPG Key ID: 0x0349ED21 4C9C BFAD 0069 D679 9660 BCD5 40C2 D958 0349 ED21 0x0349ED21.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Linux equivalent of DPAPI
I'm unclear what the DPAPI is supposed to be used-for, as DPAPI is listed on the link in your first email as "DPAPI is focused on providing data protection for users. Because DPAPI requires a password to provide protection, the logical step is for DPAPI to use a user's logon password, which it does, in a way. DPAPI actually uses the user's logon credential." which suggests that it is not suitable for server-side usage. I wonder, then, if the DPAPI requirement is for the end-user system and not your server? On 21 October 2015 at 11:14, Roger Munford <rogermunf...@parussoftware.co.uk > wrote: > James, > > This system handles fresh local food home deliveries and one user won the > BBC local food retailer of the year a few years ago. It predates > supermarket home delivery and credit card payments was introduced in 2006. > > One of the features is that orders are taken a day or so before packing > and delivery and with weighing and not availables the final bill is > calculated only after packing. Also most customers are regular and many > have standing orders for delivery without ordering > > Credit card details were typed into a desktop app which sent them off to > the (hopefully) fully secure payment gateway. A token is returned which is > used for future payment(s). This token links the credit card details and > the retailer so that even if the token was used by a criminal, all they > could do was transfer money to the retailers account. The token could > therefore be stored without particular security. > > The upgrade required is to allow customers to enter credit card details on > line. The payment company provide a "hosted payment page" which allows > customers to enter details and the token is returned which can be used as > before. The hosted payment page is called with an "Authentication token" > which is given to the retailer but must be held securely - DPAPI is > recommended. The developers know nothing about Linux so it is an unexpected > hurdle for me. > > Thanks for your suggestion. Looks promising. > > Roger > > > > > On 21/10/15 08:16, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > > On 20 Oct 2015 13:26, "Roger Munford" < <rogermunf...@parussoftware.co.uk> > rogermunf...@parussoftware.co.uk> wrote: > > > > I am bringing an old desktop payment system up to date to work with the > payment providers new system and also provide a wrapper for a website which > transfers the user to their hosted payment page. > > > > The website is built on the traditional LAMP server. However the website > requires a security key which " is secret and must never be revealed to > anyone and you must ensure that the key is protected on your server by > appropriate security measures such as DPAPI" > > > > I was looking for a Linux equivalent but there does not seem to be one, > but I assume there must be a technique employed on Linux service to > accomplish the same thing. > > > > The payment service providers are a windows shop and aren't very helpful. > > > > Can anybody point me in the right direction? > > > If you are having to become PCI DSS compliant, then things become far more > difficult to get right. > It is far more that just protecting encryption keys. > Linux does have an api for storing keys securly in the kernel. Google > linux kernel key management. > > In general, PCI DSS looks for separation of data at differing sensitivity > levels. In some cases, dedicated hardware is used to encrypt credit card > numbers. > In other cases, you separate up the data and store it in different places. > Eg. Credit card numbers on one server, and the rest of the data on another, > and then you look to lock down the credit card server to the max and not > run any services on it apart from the credit card access api and no web > browsers. > > Kind regards > > James > > > > > -- > Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk > Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire > LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk > -- > -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hants Meeting
On 23 September 2015 at 14:50, Will Jackson <w...@wiljaxon.net> wrote: > Well yes, me too : "*enjoy getting out from my hole, taking in some sun > and actually talking to other Linux users*." > I wouldn't object at all to contributing a few quid, a hall in Overton > would be ideal for me ;-) > Live in Andover > I don't often talk on the list, but my two penneth says Overton would be good for me too - I live in Basingstoke. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Website dead, ever coming back?
On 23/06/2015 22:04, Alan Pope wrote: On 23 June 2015 at 21:50, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: http://hants.lug.org.uk/ http://www.hantslug.org.uk/ It finally loaded some 44 seconds later. http://imgur.com/vDFstIA (top right) I've done a bit of investigation to help whoever ends-up attempting to fix this issue: The problem appears to be something slowing the loading of four javascript files and one css file: - /?bfa_ata_file=css - /wp/wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery.js?ver=1.11.1, - /wp/wp-includes/js/jquery/jquery-migrate.min.js?ver=1.2.1, - /wp/wp-content/themes/atahualpa/js/DD_roundies.js?ver=0.0.2a, and, - /?bfa_ata_file=js specifically the Time Till First Byte (TTFB) of each of these files is huge (Large TTFB indicates delay server-side which is occurring before _ANY_ data is transferred). This might be due to disk-thrashing caused by excessive swapping, or some other IO bottleneck issue server-side. (Once the files hit the network they transfer quickly so networking is not the issue here at all. Also the html pages themselves are received in less-than 300ms further confusing matters, though I note that the html is cached by wp-supercache meaning that for most requests very little PHP code is touched, if any.) HTH. -- Daniel Llewellyn; PGP/GPG: 0x0349ED21 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] UK digital skills report
On 22 February 2015 at 11:45, James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com wrote: What is missing is the AI to read and understand my spreadsheet or document like a developer would. I.e. Read a document that is not written in source code, and be able to understand it as well as if they were reading source code, even in the semantics are less strict. and we all know how this ends. namely with some blind engineer asking the computer to make a holmesian villain capable of beating an android. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Open Source CRM
On 13 August 2014 16:13, Full Circle Podcast fullcirclepodc...@googlemail.com wrote: Perhaps next time I should try posting as a Nigerian general with several $m dollars to transfer out of the country? That might be useful to me. I often attempt to be the purveyor of such large sums of money that need to be deposited in my country. Unfortunately I have yet to actually finish the process, but I'll keep trying - there's plenty more Nigerian Generals with money by all accounts. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] ISP Filtering
is it coincidence that I received, today, an email from the Department of Dirty that stated?: QUOTE The Department of Dirty is working with internet and mobile companies to stop the dirty internet. We are committed to protecting children and adults from online filth such as: - Talk to Frank http://www.talktofrank.com/: This government website tries to educate young people about drugs. We all know what ‘education’ means, don’t we? Blocked by Three. - Girl Guides Essex http://www.girlguidingessexne.org.uk/: They say, ‘guiding is about acquiring skills for life’. We say, why would young girls need skills? Blocked by BT. - South London Refugee Association http://www.asylumwelcome.org.uk/: This charity aims to relieve poverty and distress. Not on our watch they don’t. Blocked by BT, EE, Sky and VirginMedia We need you to help us take a stand against blogs, charities and education websites, all of which are being blocked [1]. It’s time to stop this sick filth. Together, we can clean up the internet. *www.departmentofdirty.co.uk http://www.departmentofdirty.co.uk/* On 23 July 2014 19:06, Stephen Davies stephen.dav...@ultraconsulting.co.uk wrote: Martin, Like you I use OpenDNS instead of my ISP's DNS, but that wasn't the point of my post. If you have your own website then you should check to see if any of the Major UK ISP's are blocking it. I found that SKY is blocking my Wordpress Blog. So far they have not responded to my request to get it unblocked. If they are blocking it then they have to have a reason. It can't be because their crawlers have read the content of my site because they are all blocked and from the logs, I can't see any SKY domain looking at my site to determine its contents. While I agree with the objectives of stopping children from accessing the nastier side of the internet, blocking sites that are nothing more than a BLOG simply because a blog could contain bad stuff just ain't on IMHO. My site contains nothing more than a load of stories that I have written over the years. So why block it. From what I've read, I am far from the only Blog owner that has this happen. Stephen D Original Message Subject: Re: [Hampshire] ISP Filtering Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:55:51 +0100 From: Martin N marti...@bluebottle.com marti...@bluebottle.com To: stephen.dav...@ultraconsulting.co.uk, Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Hello, At 14:42 23/07/2014, you wrote: There were a lot of posts on the Interwebs about the fact that most people are not using the mandatory [redacted] filters at the ISP's. Some of the commenters complained that the likes of Talk-Talk were blocking their wordpress blogs for no good reason other than the fact that they were running Wordpress. Apparently according to NNSquad email I got, only talktalk got above 10% of people to sign up. The rest were like 4 or 5% I assume OpenDNS gets around these blocks. Martin New NSA Slogan: We work to ensure your safety. Don't Worry We Have Your Back[door] -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Code base and Emergency Data Laws
On 18 July 2014 10:04, jay bennie j...@lincore.com wrote: may be i see the plethora of freedoms of open critisim, courts that can and do prosecute and voting for all as a panacea. the freedoms of open criticism which, when exercised against the powers-that-be, place your identity on the retrospective search algorithms that immediately aggregate your entire potted history for the past 10 years? yeah, I'd call that a panacea, too, though not for the same people I would guess. what i also see is a lack of ability for legitimate spying on persons breaking laws, polititions and business interests making secret deals outside of law and police abuse of power. The problem is that spying isn't being done on persons breaking laws, it is done on everyone at all times. Right now you are being surveiled by the powers-that-be whether you like to believe it or not. I also see 40% of the population read crap and base there opinion on retoric and spin, and have an idealistic notion of a perfect socity and a personalised view of right and wrong 36% of that statistic was made-up on the spot. people are corrupt! people break laws, fact. that isn't being argued against. you need tools to collect evidence, and courts of elected or just persons to make judgements of right and wrong... anything less is folly. nor is that. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OFF TOPIC] Electrician recommendation
On 5 July 2014 18:22, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: Assuming you have the desire, capability, time and the project is not subject to planning regulations and inspection; In theory, you can do it all yourself, /except/ for the connection to the consumer unit (fuse/MCB) or similar. That should be done by a competent person who will check your work before s/he signs off on it all. That's not entirely accurate. Building regulations Part-P requires that all domestic electrical work be audited and approved by a qualified Part-P inspector. This is also the case for work carried out by electricians, but some electricians (my brother is one) are Part-P approved and can audit their own work or that of others. In practice, and as far as I'm aware, this isn't actually an issue until you come to sell the property - all work carried out on the premises must have a valid Part-P certification paper for the legal side of changing ownership. Note also, I'm not sure whether a Barn wired to a domestic premises is counted as domestic installations or not, and if it isn't then you'll need to look up the relevant regulations for agricultural and/or commercial properties. My brother can advise on all these matters as he's worked in the past on all three types of property so should know what's what or at least be able to find out if he hasn't (as in the case of agricultural) done work in that field recently. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OFF TOPIC] Electrician recommendation
My brother pretends to be an electriciany thing: http://www.rllewellyn.co.uk/ or dickllewel...@yahoo.co.uk - he's based in Andover the advantage of going with him is that you can always find me on this list and on freenode/#ubuntu-uk (diddledan) to have a moan :-p annoyingly I do NOT get a finder's fee! . hehe On 4 July 2014 13:35, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: Hi, On 4 July 2014 13:28, Stephen Nelson-Smith sanel...@gmail.com wrote: I need to acquire the services of an electrician to provide power to an outbuilding. Can anyone recommend anyone? I can recommend http://lselectrical.co.uk/ - a guy called Simon, very good. He's in Farnborough. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Raspberry PI and Solar chargers
On 12 June 2014 20:07, Steve Miller ste...@seawasp.com wrote: I'd still avoid cheap clones of Prolific devices (frequently PL2303 without serial numbers). I have never had a problem with FTDI devices though they are a little more expensive and they too are being cloned now. Unrelated to the discussion on timers, I was wondering what the main difference was between the cheapo clones and those they're clones of and more expensive FTDI-based serial adapters? There seems to be quite a discrepancy between the two classes of devices, and I recently plumped with the FTDI-style because they seemed more like they were likely to be compatible but I have no idea why that may be so. Any insights, theories or myths would be interesting to hear not least just to put my mind at ease that I didn't spend over-the-odds for two cables (one with an RJ45 end to connect to my mikrotik router and one with a bog-standard RS232 connector) -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 28 May 2014 16:21, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised this hasn't turned into well your mail client is shit - use pine/elm/outlook/lotus rage already. well now that you mention it... in other news, I'm learning vim today. I quite like. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Fwd: Top posting
On 20 May 2014, at 13:27, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Gmail on mobile actively makes it more difficult to bottom post Gmail’s interfaces are all geared up for top-posting both on mobile and desktop browsers and native apps. The nice thing, however, is that Gmail provides SMTP and IMAP capabilities for you to use with your favourite offline MUA (Mail User Agent - e.g. Thunderbird) which is more likely to provide the capability to bottom post easily. To reference Dr Trickett’s email: Sadly almost all non-technical business email is top-posted and it is difficult to read, often incoherent and a great source of confusion in business. This is perpetuated by every(?) closed-source MUA such as Outlook (look out!), Apple Mail and the aforementioned Gmail clients per their default settings which most folk don’t realise there’s any need to change nor even know they can do so. Some clients don’t even provide the option to switch to the saner variety (bottom-posting) at all! I often fall into the same trap that most folk do where I’ll hit reply, start typing my message and hit send before then remembering that my client top-posts by default but now my message is already sent. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Invitation | ORG Hampshire Meetup Tomorrow
troll I maintain a stakeholder management system for several separate entities. should I complain if someone appears in two or more of these systems simultaneously thereby being stakeholders of more than one of these entities (multistakeholders)? /troll On 7 April 2014 20:46, alexandra combes hants...@freedigitalsociety.euwrote: 2014-04-07 20:04 GMT+01:00 Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk: It's in the charter that the Open Rights Group is asking prospective euro candidates to sign. While it might have a very specific meaning to people that talk about Internet governance to most non-technical political candidates it's gonna look like a made up word and they'll regard the whole charter as a joke. You have to feed politicians with a very small spoon. I see. Thanks for your comments - will forward to the Board. -- A. M. Combes | ORG Hampshire org-hampshire at freedigitalsociety.eu https://www.openrightsgroup.org GnuPG_key 2048R/CCA5F465 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Router Port Scan
thank dog for IPv6 increasing the address space enough that it's neigh-on impossible to work out which addresses are likely to contain anything at all, let alone anything interesting. although it also will mean that sysadmins will have fun using addresses containing things like :cafe and :b00b and :1337 (I would probably count myself among those :-p) On 10 February 2014 08:57, James Bensley jwbens...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Clive, You can ignore these from a threat perspective. People from all over the world are scanning the entire Internet all the time. That is just a part of daily life on the Internet. Cheers, James. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
I'm confused. surely raid-10 with two devices is no different to raid-1? I don't get how raid-10 is any different, or maybe that should be how it's possible to be any different, to so-called raid-0+1: at the end of the day, you need two copies of the data (RAID-1) but when you have more than two devices you stripe the raid-1 mirror onto two sets of raid-0 drives. The article Keith linked seems to suggest that RAID0+1 is a raid-0 on top of raid-1, as opposed to raid-1 on top of two raid-0 arrays, which I can't conceptualise. raid-1 appears as a single contiguous block, so how do you then lay a striping pattern on top which requires at least two devices? Maybe the author thinks you have two raid-1 arrays, thereby requiring at least 4 drives paired into two pairs and then stripe between the two raid-1 devices? this is getting complicated! On 4 October 2013 07:07, Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote: On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 07:03:13 +0100, k...@midnighthax.com said: How are you doing RAID-10 with two devices? Answered my own question (http://neil.brown.name/blog/20040827225440). -- You can't live a perfect day without doing something for someone who will never be able to repay you. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
On 4 October 2013 17:00, Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote: It's not really RAID-10 in the commonly-understood sense, and whilst it may have good read performance, I suspect it will be significantly slower writing. I've not used that version of RAID-10, and I don't think I would. so it's effectively, if I understand this right. not redundant AT ALL in terms of a disc dying and taking the data with it. AFAICT it saves two (or more) copies of each block, but it doesn't ensure that those copies are on separate discs. so there could be 2 mirrors of a block on the same drive thereby completely negating any benefit for that particular block. It also won't improve speed of read for that particular block because if the drive is busy reading another block the system can't go to another disc to get this block because it just ain't there. Likewise it will halve the write speed for this particular block because it can't parallelise a write to each disc independently but must queue the two copies for writing to the one disc sequentially. In short, it's a completely flawed idea IMHO (of the Not So Humble variety :-p) -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] disk types and layout on a new box
On 4 October 2013 18:04, Stuart Sears stu...@sjsears.com wrote: On 04/10/13 17:21, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: so it's effectively, if I understand this right. not redundant AT ALL in terms of a disc dying and taking the data with it. Yes, it is. I think you don't understand it correctly :) AFAICT it saves two (or more) copies of each block, but it doesn't ensure that those copies are on separate discs. so there could be 2 mirrors of a block on the same drive thereby completely negating any benefit for that particular block. I don't see where you get this idea? AFAICT pains are taken to ensure that duplicate chunks are written to separate devices. Otherwise, what exactly is the point at all? man md has more information on the layouts used, in its RAID 10 section. Nothing I see there implies that duplicate copies of a chunk can be written to the same device. It also won't improve speed of read for that particular block because if the drive is busy reading another block the system can't go to another disc to get this block because it just ain't there. um, yes it is. Likewise it will halve the write speed for this particular block because it can't parallelise a write to each disc independently but must queue the two copies for writing to the one disc sequentially. Once again, no. In short, it's a completely flawed idea IMHO (of the Not So Humble variety :-p) no, not really, it's just different. Although I don't use it myself. I'm glad to be corrected :-) -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Privacy ( was choice of motherboard for use with Linux)
I think Facebook is probably the worst offender in terms of potential privacy issues in regards to targeted advertising. I'm listed on there as being Single, so Facebook ads have worked out that I obviously want to date an Asian woman or a woman in uniform along with several other dating-related adverts. Neither of these are necessarily true, and presuppose that I want to date at all. On 16 September 2013 10:44, Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 2013-09-15 at 21:54 +0100, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: And the reason people refer to email as like a postcard as opposed to a letter One of the arguments for encryption of email was that if one wouldn't post a letter without putting it in an envelope, why do we send emails without something similar. The catch with encrypting e-mail, of course, is that it pretty much guarantees that certain organisations will immediately start taking a strong interest in it. There are several big nuisance factors of 'targeted' advertising. It presumes that mail or searches one send or does mention subjects of interest to me, rather than to some second or third party; It may presume that keywords in emails are of interest to me, when those emails are spam. They presume that ones interest is still extant. Yes, my mileage does vary :-) Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] choice of motherboard for use with Linux
I noticed that you're in need of a tin-foil hat by reading your emails. I have several designs of varying degrees of effectiveness available on my store. I've already charged your credit card so if you fancy dropping by I'll get you set up. And the reason people refer to email as like a postcard as opposed to a letter is because the content of the message is visible to anybody who fancies looking at it while it's in their possession - such as the postman. The difference between the To: header and the envelope-to is akin to the difference between the postcard's destination address (envelope-to) and the salutation used in the message (the to: header). On 13 September 2013 20:04, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:27:26 +0100 Samuel Penn s...@glendale.org.uk wrote: Hello Samuel, On Friday 13 Sep 2013 14:30:11 Brad Rogers wrote: They always have. They've never hidden that fact. That's why, like you, I prefer to avoid them. Technically, most ISPs do, even if it's just scanning for SPAM. They *can*, certainly. Whether most do, IDK. If it's simply deciding what advert to show to you, that's one thing, and not something I'd consider an invasion of privacy. YMMV. Surveying/scanning email for clues as to preferences, etc. is an invasion of privacy in the same way that somebody opening a letter addressed to you is an invasion. Now, I know some consider email like a postcard, but I don't, mostly because there's a To header and also an Envelope-To header. Pedantry perhaps, but that's the way I look at it. In any case, in other medium does an advertiser have any way of piking out your preferences. If it's to forward juicy looking conversations to humans so they can have a laugh about your private life, that's something completely different. This actually happened to my sister-in-law (SiL). How do we know? Because the legal secretary that forwarded it to one of her colleagues with a snide remark, stupidly (accidentally) Cc'd my SiL. Lots of egg on face, some big apologies, and a *huge* reduction in the bill. Whether that person kept their job, IDK. We're not likely to find out since that firm is longer used by aforesaid SiL. It's perfectly possible for 'Google' to do something that 'Google' hadn't meant to do (whether it was accidental or not, I have no idea, but it *is* possible for it to have been). Many things are possible to do accidentally. However, fitting wifi capable detector kit to the company camera cars, looking for wifi leakage, recording all the data it's possible to slurp from any leaks found, and later decoding said data simply cannot happen accidentally. Whether it's what the big-wigs intended or not, when things get to that point, is irrelevant. It then becomes an act of malfeasance. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent But they didn't tell him the first two didn't count Tin Soldiers - Stiff Little Fingers -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Recommendations sought for system upgrade
On 14 August 2013 12:19, Peter Alefounder p_alefoun...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com said: your mouse might be ps/2 as might your keyboard, Mouse is USB (but came with an adaptor plug for ps/2), keyboard is PS/2. If I must have a new keyboard, so be it. Scanner is USB. You may be OK with just the one ps/2 thingy as some motherboards come with a dual-purpose single ps/2 port which can take either a keyboard or a mouse but not both. Thought so! The shop I got the parts from, m2 on Shirley High Road, Southampton, vanished years ago. Not sure where to get such bits now, so it might be easier for me to buy a complete system, which would also solve the problem of getting a new operating system. Novatech have a shop in Portsmouth and are available online at www.novatech.co.uk. I've found them very good though I've only purchased parts off them rather than requested information or support from them. Alternatively there are online-only suppliers such as dabs.com and scan.co.uk. Supposing I had a new system on a new disk, would any problems arise from having an old system on the old disk? Am I right in thinking that I can set the machine to only boot off the new disk? Likewise, any problem from having a /home on both disks? (tl;dr: the below is quite a long missive, if you don't want to read it all, suffice to say you should be fine with having both discs side-by-side) there will be an option in the bios/efi (efi replaces the bios of old) to determine which drive to boot from, and a key-press can likely be used to override the default (usually f11). there will be no issue with having both drives in the system simultaneously unless you accidentally install the new os onto the wrong one and wipe out your old files. If you're at all worried about that possibility I'd advise installing the new system and then plugging the old drive into the machine afterwards. In linux-land partitions are usually mounted according to rules specified in /etc/fstab where you will currently have an entry on the old drive for the home partition to be mounted in the correct place. on the new system this rule won't point to the old partition so your new home partition (if you create one) will be mounted at /home when booted into the new OS and the old home partition will be when booted into the old OS. if you don't create a replacement home partition you can either use the old home partition as-is by specifying in the installer or by editing /etc/fstab after install, or you can not have one at all and just keep /home on the root partition's file-system. the old partitions won't be mounted unless you specify for them to be so in /etc/fstab (excepting maybe any swap partitions, which wouldn't be an issue to share unless you use hibernate to save power instead of turning off the system - I just leave mine running :-p). If you don't specify any auto-mounting of the old partitions you might still be able to access them in the file manager as modern nautilus (Gnome) and Dolphin (KDE) and similar will detect any unmounted partitions that are readable and provide them in a list for click-able activation whereby it will mount the selected partition in a temporary location such as /media/file-system-label on Ubuntu. (where file-system-label is the name given to the file-system which might be home on your home partition but can be arbitrary. it might instead be a uuid which is a supposedly unique identifier that is created at format time for a file-system. the UUID is used in this instance when a file-system doesn't have a label) === sidenote about UUIDs: UUIDs can also be used on modern distros in the fstab to replace usage of /dev/sd* block device files. this allows for more accurate partition detection in case your bios moves discs about in each subsequent boot, which is the problem that enabling UUID use in the fstab was created to combat. to determine the UUID of a partition do the following as root (using su or sudo or logging in locally as root as appropriate): blkid /dev/sdb2 this will output something like: /dev/sdb2: UUID=ca30c43b-2d2a-4196-a936-be16a176c4aa TYPE=ext2 in fstab you can replace /dev/sdb2 (from my example) to give you the following for the partition above to be mounted at /home: UUID=ca30c43b-2d2a-4196-a936-be16a176c4aa /home ext2 defaults 0 0 NOTE the missing quotes around the UUID value where there are quotes in the blkid output. this is a gotcha if you copy+paste. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Workstation and Wacom tablet for sale
On 2 July 2013 19:50, Richard Bensley richardbens...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, offering these to HLUG first. HP xw6400 workstation, £200 - 2 x Quad Core Intel Xeon E5345 2.33GHz (8 cores) - 8GB FBDIMM DDR2 667MHz PC2-5300 - CDRW/DVD IDE Optical Drive - 500GB SATA2 Hard Drive - AMD Radeon HD 6450 - Onboard sound, USB, 1GBps Ethernet - Onboard LSI RAID controller - This is a Linux Workstation, sold by HP to run Linux. -More Info: http://h2.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DocumentIndex.jsp?lang=encc=uscontentType=SupportManualprodTypeId=12454prodSeriesId=1844973 *like* +1 *want* *drool* not sure I can convince the other half of my brain (the half that worries about money :-p) that I *need* it.. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Stuart, let's connect on LinkedIn
I prefer to be called Susan out-of-office-hours, but Stuart will suffice for now I guess. On 21 May 2013 19:41, Peter B mem...@linkedin.com wrote: [image: LinkedIn Logo] http://www.linkedin.com/ Stuart, ** Peter B wants to connect with you on LinkedIn. Peter B Iscariot's Noose View Profile » http://www.linkedin.com/e/jzk71s-hgzfij70-2/rso/77177364/PLzI/name/49946253_I400237498_45/eml-comm_invm-b-pro_txt-inv28/?hs=falsetok=2Py72vNS4xcBM1 Accepthttp://www.linkedin.com/e/jzk71s-hgzfij70-2/XW2UC9vrzH0XITx3oXqTJarrNMiufasKudqp1Ui68MD/blk/I400237498_45/3wOtCVFbmdxnSVFbm8JrnpKqlZJrmZzbmNJpjRQnOpBtn9QfmhBt71BoSd1p65Lr6lOfPkQnPwVd3sPcz0Md4ALgiROmj5NsTALc3gOdjoVe3oQcP4LrCBxbOYWrSlI/eml-comm_invm-b-in_ac-inv28/?hs=falsetok=0L2x_bkowxcBM1 ** You are receiving Invitation emails. Unsubscribehttps://www.linkedin.com/e/jzk71s-hgzfij70-2/XW2UC9vrzH0XITx3oXqTJarrNMiufasKudqp1Ui68MD/uns/20008/49946253/mai05031943slo6/hampshire%40mailman%2Elug%2Eorg%2Euk/jzk71s-hgzfij70-2/eml-comm_invm-f-unsub-inv28/?hs=falsetok=1HJ-Tk7HcxcBM1. This email was intended for Stuart Biggs (currently studying HND in Computing). Learn why we included thishttp://www.linkedin.com/e/jzk71s-hgzfij70-2/plh/http%3A%2F%2Fhelp%2Elinkedin%2Ecom%2Fapp%2Fanswers%2Fdetail%2Fa_id%2F4788/-GXI/?hs=falsetok=156AU-e3QxcBM1. © 2013, LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct. Mountain View, CA 94043, USA -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Apache expertise required
On 30 April 2013 20:38, Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com wrote: At some stage I'll try out some of the more advanced ideas -- adding a reverse-proxy, or using mpm-worker instead of mpm-prefork, or replacing Apache with nginx or Lightppd. Mod_PHP is not suited to running under MPM-Worker, as PHP is not threadsafe. You'd need to run PHP as a (fast)cgi client instead if you were to go this route. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Asus Motherboard/Linux compatibility
On 26 April 2013 10:30, Ian Park i.d.c.p...@ntlworld.com wrote: Thanks both for the reassurance - it looks as though I should be reasonably safe to go with that MB. But before I do, I'm waiting to hear from my son whether he wants my current desktop system to replace his pile of bits spread on a table-top... does that go something along these lines: Ian to son: son, do you want my super computer instead of your junk? Son to Ian: sure, that would be awesome. Ian to missus: honey, our son has taken my computer; I /need/ new shiny! :-p facetiousness intended! :-p -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Asus Motherboard/Linux compatibility
On 26 April 2013 22:11, Ian Park i.d.c.p...@ntlworld.com wrote: Not quite... the money for the new computer will be *mine*, not *ours* (and if my son can be persuaded to reply to my offer of my current system it will be a reason/excuse for us to go and see him... that sounds more sensible than my version, and much better pay off (getting to see your son). -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Windows 8 + Dual Booting
On 15 April 2013 23:11, Leszek Kobiernicki 1 l.kobierni...@ntlworld.comwrote: On 14/04/13 22:38, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: On Sunday, 14 April 2013, Leszek Kobiernicki 1 wrote: (snip) Win_8 ( = a Cloud implementation - hence it resides on a M$ Server on their own proprietory WAN somewhere ) Linux, or any flavour of BSD, or other UNIX eg. SUN/Oracle Solaris 10 ( 11 is a Cloud version ! ) Erm, huh? windows 8 is a cloud implementation therefore it lives on a server? And the same of Solaris 11? I want some of whatever you've had! Seriously though, we're not going to win people over from the proprietary world with this kind of scaremongering and outright inaccuracies. The rest of your email was useful information but you spoilt it with this cloud fud. I did try sharing this ( below ) with the LUG, but the Server won't accept 40K+ posts -- o resent, this time, to your e-mail addresses Ahem .. POINT 1: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2409155,00.asp *Windows 8 and the Cloud: SkyDrive** * Microsoft's cloud storage service, SkyDrive, ... only with Windows 8http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2392886,00.aspdoes SkyDrive become an integral part of Microsoft's operating system strategy. Not only will the built-in modern-style Windows 8 apps like Mail and Photos be able to use your SkyDrive, but third-party apps, too, will be able to save items to your SkyDrive cloud storage folders. ... Windows 8's cloud services go beyond just SkyDrive storage. Signing into a Microsoft account on different machines lets you roam, or sync, all your PC settings, such as the lock screen image, user photo, start screen tattoos, browser favorites and history, spell check dictionaries, Explorer settings, mouse settings, and accessibility settings. Not only can you sync these settings, but you'll also be able to see in the Windows Store any apps you've installed on other PCs and http://www.geek.com/news/windows-8-cloud-powered-roaming-user-profiles-revealed-1351491/ and http://www.forbes.com/sites/netapp/2012/10/11/windows-8-release-date-tablet-microsoft-cloud/ * PC users will face two big changes with Windows 8:* Its emphasis on cloud-based apps over traditional software applications that need to be installed on the computer; and the way that Windows 8 is optimized for phones and tablets, putting an emphasis on touchscreen navigation. The user experience is deeply unfamiliar if you have to rely on a mouse to get around . and http://www.fixcleaner.com/blog/index.php/windows-8/271-cloud-computing-win8 etc. ( If that ain't surveillance, I don't know what is ) I'm no windows lover, but I still think this is misinformation. Windows 8 will function perfectly fine without touching any cloud or internet service. POINT 2: http://www.oracle.com/us/products/servers-storage/solaris/solaris11/overview/index.htm snipped the image Oracle SOLARIS 11 *Not of course SUN SOLARIS 10, *which is still cloud-free ( and FREE to download, as well, if your hardware can take it ) If I'm dreaming, it's entirely based on what the two Cloud 9 companies say about their own OSs ! The image of solaris suggests that it's the first cloud os. That does not mean that it does the surveiling and naughtiness you suggest of it. In fact it purely means that the os is designed to be run by a _cloud operator_ as infrastructure, not that it does fancy file syncing and hidden screenshotting and nasty key logging! As for winning people over, try this: 1.Win OSS have ALL been hacked ( it takes seconds for a WinHack to drive through a router ) 2.Linux OSs are 3-10 times FASTER 3.They don't burn out the hardware - unlike MS Win will do, at some point 4.All Linux temp/junk files are easily deleted with 2 free apps: FSLINT and UBUNTU TWEAK so your system can always be CLEAN 5.All Linux updates ( OS AND apps ) can be updated with a single concatenated CLI command 6.Linux OSs on a built box last c. 7 years + consistently upgrading; MS Win OSs are only rated as 4-6 years AT BEST 7.Linux OSs are FREE ** and so are most of their apps 8.You can do almost anything on Linux, that MS Win does, except a few apps, eg. Visio, MS Publisher, SharePoint etc. 9.LUG support is free - unless you feel like donating to the local Contributions box 10. With Linux, you need NEVER pay for another piece of software ever again Those are all valid points, but not many of them are likely to be a deal-maker/breaker for switching from Windows to Linux. Again, I need to point out that I am fervently an open source advocate, but I feel that a lot of people in the OSS world miss the point when it comes to targeting users of proprietary software in the same ways that the proprietary vendors do of OSS users (remember Microsoft's FUD campaign? A lot of people in OSS world do the same but with different agendas). 'Nuff
[Hampshire] Fwd: Windows 8 + Dual Booting
Sorry sent from the wrong address. On Sunday, 14 April 2013, Leszek Kobiernicki 1 wrote: This dual bootloader, is certified to work with M$ Vista/Win_7/Win_8 ( = a Cloud implementation - hence it resides on a M$ Server on their own proprietory WAN somewhere ) Linux, or any flavour of BSD, or other UNIX eg. SUN/Oracle Solaris 10 ( 11 is a Cloud version ! ) Erm, huh? windows 8 is a cloud implementation therefore it lives on a server? And the same of Solaris 11? I want some of whatever you've had! Seriously though, we're not going to win people over from the proprietary world with this kind of scaremongering and outright inaccuracies. The rest of your email was useful information but you spoilt it with this cloud fud. -- Daniel Llewellyn Bang Communications Limited t: 01256 370 952 -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] LVM + Raid Question
there's two answers to this: yes and no, depending upon which order you're talking. 1) if you mean adding a software raid on top of a pair of LVs then no it's not a good idea, as you have no reliable means of determining where abouts on the disk each LV goes. even if each LV is in a separate VG you still suffer the problem that a software raid device is unpartitionable so you lose flexibility, which LVM would ordinarily allow. 2) if you mean adding LVM on top of software raid, then yes this is standard practice and is a very good thing to do when you require redundancy, as you still have the flexibility of LVM and the disk-level redundancy of RAID. the two appear semantically as follows: 1) disk/partition - LVM - RAID (bad) 2) disk/partition - RAID - LVM (good) On 11 April 2013 16:54, Ally Biggs bluechr...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Hi Guys Running Ubuntu Server currently have two 160GB hard disks setup as a LVG. Partition scheme isn't fancy it was created as a means of learning. The question is I wish to add some form of redundancy to the LVG was thinking of a RAID-1 mirror is it a good idea to run LVM with software raid via mdadm Or is there a better approach? Many Thanks Ally -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Getting someone elses mail on GMail
On 7 March 2013 13:59, Imran Chaudhry ichaud...@gmail.com wrote: A surprising number of the emails do not have how to unsubscribe footers/links, maybe the laws over that side of the pond are more lax? there's a problem with those, as spammers use these footers as a means of verifying that your email address exists and is having mail read. Once you click on the unsubscribe link you've effectively said yes, I'm here, and I've not blocked your spam, send me MOAR! -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Improving Home Broadband Talk - Follow Up
On 7 March 2013 22:13, Martin N marti...@bluebottle.com wrote: Hello, At 21:19 07/03/2013, you wrote: snip If you have an attenuation of 60dB or higher, may the force be with you. 60dB is typical of a line length of greater than 5.5Km which is really at the tip of what ADSL will operate at, at all. Not sure how far off I am from the exchange but my stats currently are: connection speed2752 kbps736 kbps Line Attenuation63.5 db31.5 db Noise Margin12.0 db13.0 db Oooh above 60db attenuation. The most i receive is 310k per sec although it looks like it will be lower with 275k minus overhead with this current connection. There's some funky maths going on here methinks :-p 2752Kbps != 275KB/s try 2752 / 8 = 344KB/s you do yourself a disservice assuming Kb to KB is an order of ten magnitude difference. [side-rant] WHY do so many people get KB and Kb, i.e. bits vs bytes and MB vs mB i.e. Mega vs Mili wrong! The number of times I see something like I've got a 5mb connection and have to refrain from asking what a milibit is! It's not even as if they were wanting to say MegaBits, but instead getting it wrong twice by meaning MegaBYTEs. There's a standard for a reason people! [/tongue-in-cheek-ranting-lunatic] -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] The future of Linux / career advice
Linux book and a couple of pages in you end up with the worlds worst headache. Yes and no. The documentation that is there is often quite good in many cases (I cite the QT4 documentation as the best ever written, and the MSDN documentation as some of the worst, second only to CodeGear (formerly Borland C++ Builder), which says See the MSDN Docs throughout). However, it might not be simple, and that's often because what you're doing isn't simple. One thing to note here is that error messages in Linux are often a lot more helpful than they are in Windows. So how did you guys learn Linux? Has anyone else made the transition from Windows? I needed to do an interfacing job, and I'd just lost a load of work in XP, so there was some impetus. From there, I tried to understand and solve problems as they arose. Learning happens over time. Or what are the key areas to focus on to develop a good foundation. Need some inspiration if I go down the Linux route would I be missing out on much? Please help me resolve the tug of war it is driving me mad :) Command line is important (obviously) but understand your shell (e.g. bash), and how to script things. Networking is also important, not only at the interface level, but doing some socket programming and implementing a protocol is a really good learning experience. Some basic file-sharing, with NFS, configuring YP. Sharing with Windows boxes with Samba (especially now with Samba 4). Then look around and start solving some problems. What you learn will really depend on what you're trying to do. Hope this helps, Tim B. -- Hampshire Linux User Group Chairman -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] SSD Laptop HDD as drop-in replacement?
On 11 February 2013 01:25, j...@osml.eu wrote: The last article I read regarding life of SSD indicated that an SSD was more likely to outlive rotating media by a significant factor. Sorry I can't lay my hands to the link. More later if I re-discover it. MY 4 year old 901, all SSD, is still going strong though the keyboard and mouse is getting a bit iffy. My anecdotal evidence of two SSDs is 50/50 - that one (64GB) has lasted 8 months and is still alive. The other (128GB) lasted 2 months and died a horrid lethal death of the fatal kind that one doesn't recover from - i.e. it spews file-system and ATA errors constantly into the syslog/dmesg. I would have claimed on the warranty but I'd thrown the receipt away. I guess it's a case of YMMV. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] SSD Laptop HDD as drop-in replacement?
they were both OCZ Petrol, 64GB (working), and 128GB (dead) On 11 February 2013 18:48, Paul Freeman p...@noc4.net wrote: On 2013-02-11 18:41, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: On 11 February 2013 01:25, j...@osml.eu wrote: The last article I read regarding life of SSD indicated that an SSD was more likely to outlive rotating media by a significant factor. Sorry I can't lay my hands to the link. More later if I re-discover it. MY 4 year old 901, all SSD, is still going strong though the keyboard and mouse is getting a bit iffy. My anecdotal evidence of two SSDs is 50/50 - that one (64GB) has lasted 8 months and is still alive. The other (128GB) lasted 2 months and died a horrid lethal death of the fatal kind that one doesn't recover from - i.e. it spews file-system and ATA errors constantly into the syslog/dmesg. I would have claimed on the warranty but I'd thrown the receipt away. I guess it's a case of YMMV. out of in interest what model/makes were they ? Paul -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/**mailman/listinfo/hampshirehttps://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --**--**-- -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] ufw
On 6 February 2013 18:22, Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hi all In short – do I need to reboot to force ufw to apply any changes I’ve just made? no, you don't - see below. I’m playing around with ufw on my Ubuntu box which is now my media server. I’m trying to get it to connect with my Netgear NeoTV underneath my tv but seemingly only disabling ufw entirely works. The Neo either refuses to see the box (and can’t connect directly i.e. can’t connect to anything it doesn’t see) or sees the machine but then asks for a username and password (which aren’t required to connect to the same samba share from Window$ boxes). What I need to know is does sudo ufw enable do everything I need after I’ve changed rules. It seems I need to reboot the Ubuntu machine and or the NeoTV each time. I’ll worry about the Neo thing last but if should (for example) be restarting samba, restarting networking or restarting something else, it would be great to know – I’ve not seen anything to this extent on the web. ufw enable turns the firewall on for now and subsequent reboots until ufw disablehas been issued. adding rules using: ufw allow to ssh or other more complex rules, will immediately add the allow rule in the relevant place in the firewall iptables provided you have already ufw enabled the firewall. I.e. it is instantaneous and does not require either a reboot NOR re-activating using ufw enable or ufw disable; ufw enable. In short, if you're not manually editing the iptables but leaving everything to ufw, then you should not need to flush the rules via a reboot or iptables -F. I hope that helps :-) As to why the neotv isn't seeing the samba server - this may just be that you've omitted to allow one of the multitudinous (*insert rant here*) ports required for windows networks to operate. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Best hardware for HTPC
sending from the correct address! On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: a clever lawyer may be able to weasle a jury to believe that the use of said keys to decrypt a bluray movie constitures circumventing protection measures, but IANAL. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Gigabit Server NIC
So I went out and bought two top-end Intel I350 dual nic cards, which connect to the mobo using PCI-e x4 connectivity. On my newer system the cards work fine. However, in my old system (an LGA775 socket, 975X chipset board) the system completely fails to detect that I've inserted the card. I wrote to MSI, and they inform me that the PCI-e x16/x8 slots are only capable of running gfx cards. Which means I now have a requirement for a replacement mobo which will support the new intel network adapter. The problem is LGA775 is old-hat these days and the only boards I can find are micro-atx with only two RAM slots or DDR3 vs DDR2 - I have DDR2 memory, which would mean that I need to buy new RAM to support the maximum 8GB (I'm virtualising, remember) for full flexibility. Plus I'm out of cash now. Alternatively I could take a dremel to one of the PCI-e x1 slots and jury-rigg the x4 card into an x1 slot. Ho Hum. Regards, Daniel Llewellyn. On 24 Apr 2012, at 16:35, Ian G wrote: realtek nics are generally best to avoid due to bugs in the oss drivers and realteks reluctance of being open makes them a Cheapo solution. Try sticking to intel pro nics, esp. if using them for VM. Another good thing to look at is the option flags the nics support.. VLAN MTU/HW(de)Tagging, TSO etc. These things take load of your host when guests are savaging I/O. Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I'm trying to find some PCI Gigabit Network Interface Cards that I can use in a virtualisation server (32bit i.e. NOT PCI-X) - the server(s) are two re-tasked desktop machines which I doubt the ability to run PCI-e x4 in the spare PCI-e x16 (x8 electrical) slots. While there are plenty of el-cheapo gigabit adapters I wonder about their ability to keep-up with server duties (several VMs with public-facing services and a router/firewall software appliance - all hobbyist though). Ideally I would like 4 gigabit ports split between the two PCs (2 in each), and have the aforementioned PCI-e x16(8 electrical) slot available in both machines (though the ability to run non-gfx is in question), and two spare 32bit PCI slots in each. Thoughts? Would el-cheapo realtek 8169-based be suitable for server duties? Thanks for reading this and any help you may give, Daniel -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Gigabit Server NIC
Hi all, I'm trying to find some PCI Gigabit Network Interface Cards that I can use in a virtualisation server (32bit i.e. NOT PCI-X) - the server(s) are two re-tasked desktop machines which I doubt the ability to run PCI-e x4 in the spare PCI-e x16 (x8 electrical) slots. While there are plenty of el-cheapo gigabit adapters I wonder about their ability to keep-up with server duties (several VMs with public-facing services and a router/firewall software appliance - all hobbyist though). Ideally I would like 4 gigabit ports split between the two PCs (2 in each), and have the aforementioned PCI-e x16(8 electrical) slot available in both machines (though the ability to run non-gfx is in question), and two spare 32bit PCI slots in each. Thoughts? Would el-cheapo realtek 8169-based be suitable for server duties? Thanks for reading this and any help you may give, Daniel signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] PSPP Libraries
I believe you need the Cairo -dev package. I.e. libcairo-Dev and the same for the pango package, and any others configure complains about. Also a useful meta package is build-essential, which will pull the c and c++ compilers and core -Dev packages such as glibc-Dev (if that specific one exists, memory fails me) Sent from my iPhone On 31 Mar 2012, at 13:54, Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hi all I have asked a similar question before but please bear with me - I'm sort of making progress but still not quite there... I'm trying to compile a tarball from source. The problem I'm having is ./configure is crashing saying I need cairo1.5 or later and pango1.5 or later. So I headed for synaptic, installed them and reran configure. Same error. I've never been too hot on this facet of Linux - do I need to do anything else having installed the package libcairo to register it such that ./configure can see it? I suspect I'm missing a fundamental step here but I can't think what it is. The background to this is I'm trying to run a stats package called pspp. The problem is that installing it via synaptic gives me a very old version with very little functionality. The developers are doing this deliberately and the latest version is available as tarball binary and tarball source. The binary version doesn't seem to work (in a much as I get executable files which don't run) but according to the mailing list - much more emphasis is on building from source. Constructive ideas very welcome Rob [1] http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Adobe Flash
I figure I'll be the first to mention it: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Chrome-only-future-for-Flash-on-Linux-1440104.html What is your take on this development? will anyone be converting to Chrome from another browser because of this? it is a good/bad thing? My annoyance here is the same as my annoyance with Silverlight - video sites (netflix et al) are finding more and more ways to prevent access from our favourite OS because of the Movie/TV studio requirement for DRM on all streams. With flash leaving the playing field, we're losing the last remaining compatible solution that the studios may have agreed to a video site using. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Vodafone - the hard sell
On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 18:26, Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hi all OT I know so apologies for that but I need an answer as soon as poss. Are 24 month contracts for mobile voice packages now the norm? This is new to me but I can't say my memory's that great nowadays or that such things keep my interest. If they are then fine - but it used to be the case that signing up for 24 months got you the best freebies whereas 12 months got you a lesser upgrade on the handset. Any thoughts anyone? I'm anxious not to sign up for 24 months if there are better shorter deals out there... and Vodafone keep giving me the hard sell. Cheers Rob Yes, 24 is the standard these days. However, Vodafone's website in particular also lists contract lengths of 12 and 18 months as options (with 24 the default). -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Another iptables question
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 23:11, NeilS neil.s.mailingli...@imap.cc wrote: Hello Everyone, This is probably quite a simple question compared to the last similar thread. I'm a bit out of my comfort zone, so I wonder if someone can assist. I am trying to get a server to route a TCP connection to a specific destination port between networks. One is a physical network, eth0 and the other is a VPN, tun0. I set up my routing table to ensure traffic for the VPN subnet is directed to tun0 and everything else to eth0, turned on port forwarding and tried: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport $TCP_PORT -j DNAT --to $DEST_ADDRESS:$TCP_PORT This doesn't seem to be quite doing the right thing. I took a look at the traffic on tun0 using Wireshark. If I try and telnet to the specific port on my server from a local machine, packets appear destined for the correct remote address, but the source address is that of my local machine, i.e. within the range of my local network. Thus I'm not seeing any reply as I assume it is going astray in the remote network. How do I tell iptables I want it to translate the source address to the server's address on the VPN interface, tun0? (And to redirect the returned packets from that port to my local client machine?) the reverse of a DNAT (which is Destination NAT), is SNAT (Source NAT), e.g. iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --dport $TCP_PORT -j SNAT --to-source your.host.ip.address -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Steam game problem with half life 2.
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 16:49, Leo li...@fractal.me.uk wrote: You may be able to gift the game to someone else on Steam too. I've only ever received a game like this though, so I don't know what the limitations are. I believe gifting requires a(n additional) license to be purchased which gets sent to your friend's account instead of yours. i.e. it doesn't transfer ownership of prior purchases. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Help! I'm buying a laptop.
On Jan 14, 2012 10:57 AM, Ian Grody l...@grody.me.uk wrote: On Saturday 14 January 2012 10:09:44 t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote: AMD A6 3400 vs, the Intel i5-2430 Well, The Toshiba is quad core @ 2.3 / 1.4GHz. 4MB cache (1MB per core) a Radeon 65xx series GPU. These tend to be pretty purdy, even my 5400 mobile GPU is quite nice. The ASUS is dual core, 4 threads per-core @2.4GHz can turbo upto 3GHz. It even supports enhanced features (on-die AES crypto accellerator), carries 3MB cache (1.5M per core) houses an nVidia GTX520M which are mouth watering. IMPO, i'd hit up the i5 (ASUS) - You will get far better load handling as you have more cache on this CPU as well as far better multi-threading per-core. Also, the ATI GPU (Toshiba) will most likely steal some of your RAM for the graphics. nVidia tend to ship theirs with it's own memory. Both these CPU's are rated 35W - so price-for-price, the i5 is more bang for your buck. happy hunting, Ian Yes, on further inspection it (www.tomshardware.com has a benchmark of some very similar kit) that the choice is between graphics and maths capability. The greater CPU performance of the i5 is very tempting, and the graphics capability is probably sufficient for what I want to do. I think I've swung to the i5 now, but the Toshiba I linked to doesn't have VGA out, so it'll have to be that CPU in a different box. If it has HDMI then you only need an adapter iirc. More searching required, I think. Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- I'm an AMD lover personally. But in this case, that i5 is by far better. If it was an i3... AMD! i5 i7's are beasts. Both the ATI and nVidia GPU's on those would be capable of CUDA (OpenCL) computing too, but the GTX would fold superior mathematically. Ian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Android VPN clients
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 17:32, Paul Tansom p...@aptanet.com wrote: OK, I've finally taken the plunge and jumped on the Android smartphone bandwaggon - thanks for all the suggestions, I went for something completely different when the economics of contracts came into play! Anyway, having played with it for a while I am now looking for a VPN client that will hook into a Linux based VPN (specifically that used by DD-WRT which I now run on an old Virgin supplied D-Link router I picked up of Freegle and reflashed). Most seem to talk about rooting the device which I haven't read up on. It sounds like fun, but I've no idea how it impacts warranty, etc. having not read up on it yet! As far as I'm aware rooting your device will void any warranty. Onto to the question, my galaxy-s2 has PPTP and L2TP or L2TP/IPSec vpn capability as part of the OS (Android 2.3.5). It can be configured through Settings-Wireless and Network-VPN settings. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] VDSL equipment
On Jan 1, 2012 11:03 AM, Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hi all I think I'm going to take the plunge with Zen's Fibre Active package. I've done a lot of reading but I can't find anywhere answers to my key questions - grateful if anyone can fill in the gaps: 1) Starting at the socket, the Openreach engineer is apparently going to swap my faceplate. So what sockets will there be on the new faceplate? I've seen images but can't tell if one's now ethernet and the other a standard phone jack or if they're two phone jacks (presumably one voice, one data?) They're both phone jacks, one a bt standard and the other an American standard for data. 2) The engineer is going to install (I assume this means plug in and go no further) a VDSL modem. Let's assume for the moment (see below) I don't buy any new equipment. Can I just connect this new VDSL modem to a PC (and if so are we talking ethernet or USB?) and have it connect via DHCP? This is exactly what happened when I got my first cablemodem before I added a router. The reason I ask this is that, with no router in the mix, there would have to be a seriously configured software firewall on the PC wouldn't there? To connect to the net without NAT is quite risky isn't it? Certainly it used to be! You require a pppoe capable device or software. 3) Zen want to sell me an appropriate router (which is understandable) but I do (somewhere!) have my old cable router i.e. the one I used to attach to my Virgin cable modem at my old house - I'm assuming I could use this couldn't I? Depending on the age of the router you may find it limited to 11mbps lan to wan throughput 4) My Sky box needs the phone line and at present it's connected to an extension of this line via a standard ADSL microfilter - any issues here? Adsl microfilters are obsolete with the vdsl system, with the filtering done at the faceplate. The extension may be an issue. 5) A ten fold speed increase for just over a fiver more than I'm currently paying per month (and Zen have been excellent IMHO) sounds a good deal - does anyone have any reservations about VDSL? Nope :-) Cheers Rob Sent from a mobile device. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Debian 3.0 kernel help
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 15:33, Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: I'm having to do a bit of admin style stuff while the company recruits a new Windows/Debian admin. So I have a Debian Squeeze box currently with a 2.6.32-5 kernel on it which I need to update with a 3.+ kernel in order to support a RTL8191SE Wifi interface. The 3.+ kernel image is in Wheezy/testing but how do I persuade Squeeze to update this one package. Everything I've found on the web seems to suggest that I have to upgrade the entire system from Squeeze to Wheezy in a one way trip. I believe the google incantation would be for apt pinning - I read about such ages ago, but have so rarely used the technique I can't remember how it's done. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] FW: More basic commands - was RE: ls -l
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 20:25, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Isn't the filesysyem in hackers the big GUI towers? yes; sidenote: the director decided that computer graphics weren't suitable to portray a computer interface so those towers were created in meat-space. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] error competition
how about this one that I have actually performed myself: rm -rf .* the scenario was I wanted to delete all folders in a subtree including folders beginning with a dot (.) to hide them from a normal ls listing. instead it deleted everything in the subtree .. AND everything in the supertree (../ then ../../ then ../../../ all the way up to / and then following back down again into every subdirectory of /) -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] error competition
Hi, On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 19:12, Andy Smith a...@strugglers.net wrote: Hi Daniel, On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 01:01:17PM +0100, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: how about this one that I have actually performed myself: rm -rf .* Are you sure? Was this not Linux? rm on Linux doesn't recurse through ..: $ cd /tmp/ $ mkdir -vp foo/bar/baz mkdir: created directory `foo' mkdir: created directory `foo/bar' mkdir: created directory `foo/bar/baz' $ cd foo/bar/baz $ rm -rv .* rm: cannot remove directory `.' rm: cannot remove directory `..' memory serves that it was on Ubuntu 10.04LTS. Cheers, Andy -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Setting up ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 in Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/05/2011 21:28, Benjie Gillam wrote: You may need to install extra software too, but we can figure that out step by step if you can't find a list somewhere. the meta package build-essential is pretty useful for pulling the usual suspect dependencies such as make, gcc, binutils, etc. I am unsure whether that brings in debhelper tho. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNxFwZAAoJEOliLTp7UeI28iQH+QHvGIkQmJAphWsyIfVcR8XY KDaF9IPmFcuJODE8+JgxB4ETofqegD+i7OXNrcLg1/CjWM0dOosShnoGog2XFBLD lRvh73N0OvCA7dU+gc5QcFLo8Iufg2hpc0pg7tTsCwk+w/Da5+u8oQa3T5c8se/8 HHY0MI4iSc/X5/eluQss/SstGVrkUuU7ilj5KXf4/swqjetOpphXj53pgimNXk/a JiBLz5DHH7rZ67i4UOYKHSUV1MHXpzzJURXFOcehJVFEXdh9qe3ECj2lFmOeD7Lt 4hfcDdKnKy/ifIZCH+E8abQmn+SCMss9OZwfT0DsOIfY7mqAU39fT/XrBsLFx2E= =xY85 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Setting up ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200 in Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/05/2011 22:54, Robin Wilson wrote: cp: cannot stat `./usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/linux': No such file or directory I would guess this refers to a file in libX11-dev (I believe that's a valid atom?) or some other X-related -dev package. I have a suspicion this might be because I'm choosing the wrong version of Debian to create the package for. I'm running Debian 6.0 (known as Squeeze I think?), but the options the ATI tool gives me are: Debian Packages: Debian/sid Debian/unstable Debian/etch Debian/stable Debian/lenny Debian/testing Debian/experimental Any ideas what's best to choose? I would try Debian/stable to start with. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNxHwlAAoJEOliLTp7UeI2mxAIAI1XzVUDkOkVYUiUzgarriVn 5K/FiLISlGrICs3PKW82rTqnYR0/KlKzswt/JbIgy00Im+MH+NOriZ4GCA8vTRb4 tfcroOFPXmEFm37b9rFXOsl/vK6aYe3VtlvEITsRxvO/rStX3GRvhwUdCTeUZpz0 gGCUQDbEyGbhV9IJvWIf03WKHESR9Fg64j2eYl/yjuO8Dj0KxytSX4Bv70bCAxf0 +N4Ico9/pawoFMX4+S9J1sLytI4tjezPVmQedbyy36z3Xh1mwYTbeWlEzPRWsPrQ al40rYIkxvXL8ccvvseHhcd2NhBfRDrMn38dYoCY81LK1rAXBlCKa8Poe9eSMLo= =0djW -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] obfuscated code
On Sunday, 13 March 2011 at 17:37, Andy Smith wrote:
On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 05:36:28PM +, Daniel Llewellyn wrote:
if you want a quick decode you can use php:
cat file_containing_html | php -r print
html_entity_decode(file_get_contents('php://stdin'));
Burn him!!!
I agree! your Perl is much more succinct; I would have done it in Perl had I
been more sure of my coding in the lingo. But I would have had to google for
the correct module, then googled for the docs for HTML::Entities, and then
worked out how to make it into a one-liner.. Plus I'm more sure that
html_entity_decode() will be available in any given php implementation whereas
I don't know whether HTML::Entities is stock in most Perl distros.
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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Blatant Self-publicising :)
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 19:13, Jim Kissel j...@osml.eu wrote: Whatever you do, don't wear a loud shirt in a built-up area. I did once, but I think I got away. loud-speakers in a shirt, now there's a good idea! *wanders off listening to loud music playing from his breast* -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Mobile Broadband routers
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 19:13, Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk wrote: On Thu, Mar 03, 2011 at 07:09:51PM +, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: Hopefully others will chime in with their views. I'm only a hobbyist and therefore my opinions only go so far before I'm just inventing random things while pretending to know what I'm talking about. :-p I've made most of my career out of that. :) saying something with enough conviction will sway anybody to your idea, even if it's plain idiocy.. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 17:28, Stephen Davies stephen.dav...@ultraconsulting.co.uk wrote: Ouch, I'm truly sorry for opening such a hornets nest by using what I thought was the correct term GNU/Linux. Ok, I've given myself a slap on the wrist and spent half an hour on the naughty step. Come on guys/gals, lighten up please. The work that PJ and the hundreds if not thousands of Groklawians have done since 2003 to stop the likes of SCO is surely to be celebrated and not an excuse for slagging each other off. The replies to this thread are enought to send any possible Linux (using the general term here) converts back to the Dark Side (Windows) This has made me decide to stop and think again before posting anything else that mentions the 'L' word. It is just not worth it. just to counter that: I've been running OS X and an iPhone for the past 8 months, and am now, since watching the stallman video posted earlier going way off the deep-end and installing the entirely libre gNewSense distro on my MacBook; and have reverted to using the partially libre Android-based HTC Magic phone. I now need to find a completely libre phone akin to the openmoko but with 3g capability (I've not checked openmoko's progress recently so they may already have the option). Yeah, I worship at the altar of Saint Stallman. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Something to Download and Enjoy
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 00:23, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote: GNU/Linux is offensive to me It shouldn't be. Linux is a kernel. To make a useful OS, you kinda need some userspace programs. That userspace is what converts Linux into GNU/Linux. If you sat it atop Hurd, it would be GNU/Hurd. I think the issue here is that to continue the GNU/Linux argument one would have to consider for a graphical system you use Xorg, therefore one _must_ entitle it Xorg/GNU/Linux. But then you need firefox for web browsing so you need to rename again to Mozilla/Xorg/GNU/Linux. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Clarifacation required
On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 18:15, John Cooper l...@discoverlinux.co.uk wrote: On 17/10/10 17:41, Tim wrote: I have a PC that is failing to boot, it is giving 1 long and 3 short beeps. Scott Mueller's book says for AMI BIOS POST conventional/extended memory error - clean memory contacts and reset the modules. Remove all modules except first bank. Replace the memory, power supply and motherboard. I actually had an issue with this just the other day. I too have been brought up with the assumption that the sequence means memory issue. It turns out that my graphics card had slid out of it's socket slightly and thus had a partial connection. Reseating the card allowed the system to boot with no more issues. -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] What would you do, faced with the following advice re Ubuntu
Hello all, first post to this list, and a bit of a lighthearted one at that :-) On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 17:42, Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote: Note: this is not for my production desktop, which is still running Lenny. quote Canonical who are the creators of Ubuntu are supporting 8.04 until April 2011 as well as releasing 10.04. Both versions will work, the differences in 10.04 LTS compared to the labs in week 2 are subtle. You MUST install Virtual Box version 3.1.6 or later for 10.04 to work with the additions installation. Isn't it nice that they think you're only ever going to run Ubuntu inside a virtual machine?! It strikes me as ironic that they are teaching a course on our favourite OS, yet assume we're not going to be running it ourselves and therefore require a virtual machine to install it in. (at least they seem to infer that VirtualBox is the preferred environment; but there are many different ways of virtualising these days and virtualbox isn't completely OSS for the die-hard freedom guys. Also, who knows how long before Oracle get their claws into VBox and milk it like a cash cow like they're doing with OpenSolaris?) Yhe Open University course team are strongly reccomending that you use 8.04. You are welcome to use 10.04 but with the advisory that it comes with some risks. We have created an addendum pack which can be found in the course resources page, if you wish to have a go. (LTS stands for Long Term Support and is described in the course material) /quote Hardy is really a bit long in the tooth now... But the general impression I get is that Maverick, albeit still in Beta, is generally considered more successful than Lucid. I have personally had several failures with Lucid. (I got on better with Jaunty.) Should I try to triple boot Hardy, Lucid and Maverick? Should I go for one and stick to it? If so which? (Bearing in mind that if I have a problem with Maverick, which I fancy trying, I shall have to ask for help since the OU course team are warning me that they can't really support it!) I've been running maverick since late alpha and have had _many_ software crashes flagged by the apport system. (I've not reported them though because I'm bad bad bad! *slaps wrist*) Incidentally, so far, the course is a little disappointing. The first week's work is actually wrong in some of its facts. E.g., Ubuntu shadows Debian Stable's six monthly release, and is released about a month after it. I kid Debian releases every 6 months?? (my debian knowledge must surely be lacking here, but aren't they on 1) a rolling release cycle for software within each major release and 2) a major release when it's ready?) you not. They really said that. :-( And one page is clearly quoting some of Microsoft's more inaccurate FUD. :-( It really wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft were on the advisory committee for the drafting of the course content. Maybe I'm just a cynic :-p ho hum, for a first posting this sure turned out political! hello btw, I'm Daniel from Basingstoke :-D -- Regards, The Honeymonster aka Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
