Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
http://vim-adventures.com/ On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: On Wed, May 28 at 05:14, Anton Piatek wrote: Excellent! In my line of work everyone should know at least vi, as it is the only editor on Unix and z/OS you can expect to find. Vi that uses a cursor addressable terminal doesn't it. If that's not available you'll have to use ed. How's your ed these days ? Mine's fair to middling, I had occasion to use it a few weeks back. nvi is basically the same program I've been using fpr 30+ years. Why have to learn new tricks with every upgrade. -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 28 May 2014 10:34, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: When a list has precious else to talk about (I guess Linux works for everyone most of the time now), and the members have been around a long time the flames are easier to start. I never considered that reason for the low-traffic (that everything mostly just works) but it's probably true! I figured that the community is more fragmented now as there is Facebook, Google+, Twitter and meetup.com's all around us. On the mostly works now front, I had an interesting read through this thread recently. http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/26fjei/as_a_linux_user_since_only_2009_i_just_want_to/ I think all the veterans on this list deserve a pat on the back for sticking with Linux all these years ;) -- Key fingerprint = EF78 310C C517 9564 9ECA 82F6 68FA E621 17E1 5D16 http://about.me/imranchaudhry -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27/05/14 15:19, Owain Clarke wrote: On 27/05/14 12:44, Joseph Bennie wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them! +1 So I completely failed to start a vicious flame war :( One of the things I like best about our list is the paucity of flaming. -- Tony Wood (Bottom-posting if he remembers to change his account settings) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
It certainly seems to be easy enough to start a flame war On 28 May 2014 10:20, Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 27/05/14 15:19, Owain Clarke wrote: On 27/05/14 12:44, Joseph Bennie wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them! +1 So I completely failed to start a vicious flame war :( One of the things I like best about our list is the paucity of flaming. (Does this count as top or bottom posting?) -- Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos:http://www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37](http://www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On 28 May 2014 11:23, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: It certainly seems to be easy enough to start a flame war On 28 May 2014 10:20, Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 27/05/14 15:19, Owain Clarke wrote: On 27/05/14 12:44, Joseph Bennie wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them! +1 So I completely failed to start a vicious flame war :( One of the things I like best about our list is the paucity of flaming. (Does this count as top or bottom posting?) When a list has precious else to talk about (I guess Linux works for everyone most of the time now), and the members have been around a long time the flames are easier to start. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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Surprised this hasn't turned into well your mail client is shit - use pine/elm/outlook/lotus rage already. On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Alan Pope a...@popey.com wrote: On 28 May 2014 11:23, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: It certainly seems to be easy enough to start a flame war On 28 May 2014 10:20, Tony Wood tonywoo...@ntlworld.com wrote: On 27/05/14 15:19, Owain Clarke wrote: On 27/05/14 12:44, Joseph Bennie wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them! +1 So I completely failed to start a vicious flame war :( One of the things I like best about our list is the paucity of flaming. (Does this count as top or bottom posting?) When a list has precious else to talk about (I guess Linux works for everyone most of the time now), and the members have been around a long time the flames are easier to start. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
Excellent! In my line of work everyone should know at least vi, as it is the only editor on Unix and z/OS you can expect to find. I've never had time to learn emacs... Anton -- Anton Piatek http://www.strangeparty.com No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 28 May 2014 17:09, Daniel Llewellyn diddle...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 May 2014 16:21, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised this hasn't turned into well your mail client is shit - use pine/elm/outlook/lotus rage already. well now that you mention it... in other news, I'm learning vim today. I quite like. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On 28 May 2014 16:21, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised this hasn't turned into well your mail client is shit - use pine/elm/outlook/lotus rage already. well now that you mention it... in other news, I'm learning vim today. I quite like. -- Daniel Llewellyn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On 28/05/14 17:08, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: On 28 May 2014 16:21, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com mailto:freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: Surprised this hasn't turned into well your mail client is shit - use pine/elm/outlook/lotus rage already. give it time. And don't forget good old mailx. Or mutt. :) well now that you mention it... in other news, I'm learning vim today. I quite like. You'll be learning it for years. Nearly every day I find something else I didn't know :) Stuart -- Stuart Sears RHCA etc. It's today! said Piglet. My favourite day, said Pooh. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 28 May 2014 17:14, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Excellent! In my line of work everyone should know at least vi, as it is the only editor on Unix and z/OS you can expect to find. I've never had time to learn emacs... I think David may have had a bit of a tongue in cheek when he wrote that about vim... I found vi wasn't challenging enough so started using emacs 15 years ago and have almost got started :) I did use old vi a lot, and do still have to use it sometimes if I can't install a proper editor tee hee -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On Wed, May 28 at 05:14, Anton Piatek wrote: Excellent! In my line of work everyone should know at least vi, as it is the only editor on Unix and z/OS you can expect to find. Vi that uses a cursor addressable terminal doesn't it. If that's not available you'll have to use ed. How's your ed these days ? Mine's fair to middling, I had occasion to use it a few weeks back. nvi is basically the same program I've been using fpr 30+ years. Why have to learn new tricks with every upgrade. -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them! +1 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 12:37, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them yup... and if I wasn't spending so much effort trying to reverse-read upside-down conversations to try to work out what part of a reply might be in relation to a previous comment, I would have more time to devote to those other issues. In all seriousness... when posting to a mailing list of many hundreds (or more) people, it strikes me as presumptuous (if not a little rude) to assume that the as the writer the minute extra of my time it would take me to compose well a reply is more important to save than the accumulated hundreds of minutes of effort the readership have to expend :-/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 13:37, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) What, like this? https://twitter.com/__Freakyclown__/status/471250625335164928 :) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On 27 May 2014 12:51, Michael Pavling pavl...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 May 2014 12:37, Freaky Clown freakycl...@gmail.com wrote: or you know... you could just get on with life and not worry about the little things :) many more fields of issues in the world that need more time and attention brought to them yup... and if I wasn't spending so much effort trying to reverse-read upside-down conversations to try to work out what part of a reply might be in relation to a previous comment, I would have more time to devote to those other issues. In all seriousness... when posting to a mailing list of many hundreds (or more) people, it strikes me as presumptuous (if not a little rude) to assume that the as the writer the minute extra of my time it would take me to compose well a reply is more important to save than the accumulated hundreds of minutes of effort the readership have to expend :-/ Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? If it really were, then all mail clients would make top-posting hard. The fact that most of the corporate mail clients don't speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks email should work. Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Anton -- Anton Piatek email: an...@piatek.co.uk blog/photos:http://www.strangeparty.com pgp: [74B1FA37](http://www.strangeparty.com/anton.asc) No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On 27 May 2014 12:54, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? If it really were, then all mail clients would make top-posting hard. If I wrote my reply in ROT13, it would be harder to read. Ohg rznvy pyvragf qba'g cerirag zr sebz qbvat fb. The fact that most of the corporate mail clients don't speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks email should work. Writing an email at the top because that's where the cursor is, is like messing in your trousers because that's where your backside is. (sanitised for a family-friendly list :-) That cursors appear at the top is a good thing - if it defaulted to the bottom, I'd have to scroll all the way back up to start reading the content of the email. But just because I read from the top, doesn't mean that's where my reply should go. It *should* go wherever is best for it. Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Quite... it's a very different issue though (I'd rather see malaria eradicated... but it has little to do with a discussion about top-posting ;-) PS You might notice that I don't 'bottom post' or 'top post'... I try to make my replies address the content I'm talking about. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On a side note this is how all the emails read if you use delete a lot unnecessary words :) …. worry about the little things that need more time and attention brought to them if I was spending so much effort to read conversations to try to work out a reply in relation to a comment, I would devote more time to to those other issues. In all seriousness… the minute of my time it would take me to compose a reply is more important than the accumulated hundreds of minutes of Your presumption and speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks I'd rather see that No trees were destroyed, however, a significant number were -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? A: Well, you wouldn't want to hear the punchline before the joke, would you? Q: Why is top posting bad? Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Secure email was solved many years ago. That it is not prevalent is simply because very few people care enough to use it. Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On Tuesday 27 May 2014 12:54:48 Anton Piatek wrote: Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? I find it so much harder to read that I usually just give up in despair. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On 27 May 2014 12:54, Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? If it really were, then all mail clients would make top-posting hard. The fact that most of the corporate mail clients don't speaks volumes for how the rest of the world thinks email should work. Personally I'd rather see secure email solved rather than top/bottom posting Ironically Anton's reply was easier to read and made a lot more sense because it was interleaved. I just tried to imagine what this thread itself would be like to read if it was all written in untrimmed GMail/Outlook/Apple top-posted form. I think it would be up to 340+ messages by now with Owain's original repeated 25 times. -- best regards, 웃 Victor Churchill, Bournemouth -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:54:48 +0100 Anton Piatek an...@piatek.co.uk wrote: Hello Anton, because everything flows nicely, as it should. page looking for the start of the next paragraph? No, of course not, Finally, when reading a book, do you expect to have to jump about the From right to left, yes, but not bottom to top. My point being, no written language truly writes from bottom to top. now that I've done it? me to prove a point. Are you still as sure it's still as easy to read It's certainly not easier. Anyhow, nobody posts bottom to top, except Your presumption however assumes that it is that much harder to read? -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent This disease is catching Into The Valley - Skids signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On 20 May 2014 22:41, Samuel Penn s...@glendale.org.uk wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 13:27:50 Anton Piatek wrote: Gmail on mobile actively makes it more difficult to bottom post Really? Click the Respond inline button and it switches to inline quoting, and even adds a proper On X, Y wrote line to the start of the quoted text. You can then start adding text anywhere in the quoted mail. At least it does on my phone. Thanks Samuel, my reasons were same as Anton but I've just responded to this using your method. Bear in mind that more of us use a mobile device more these days so convenience sometimes trumps ettiqutte. -- Be seeing you,Games: http://www.glendale.org.uk/ Sam. Posts: http://www.google.com/+SamuelPenn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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If I didn't want a footer then bottom posting would be easier in Gmail (reply in line and it still sticks it at the top) Maybe I should ditch a footer, but I've grown used to having one for the last 20 years Anton -- Anton Piatek http://www.strangeparty.com No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 21 May 2014 19:03, Imran Chaudhry ichaud...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 May 2014 22:41, Samuel Penn s...@glendale.org.uk wrote: On Tuesday 20 May 2014 13:27:50 Anton Piatek wrote: Gmail on mobile actively makes it more difficult to bottom post Really? Click the Respond inline button and it switches to inline quoting, and even adds a proper On X, Y wrote line to the start of the quoted text. You can then start adding text anywhere in the quoted mail. At least it does on my phone. Thanks Samuel, my reasons were same as Anton but I've just responded to this using your method. Bear in mind that more of us use a mobile device more these days so convenience sometimes trumps ettiqutte. -- Be seeing you,Games: http://www.glendale.org.uk/ Sam. Posts: http://www.google.com/+SamuelPenn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On 20/05/14 07:25, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014 07:03:31 +0100, t...@engineering.selfip.org said: The etiquette was that one should reply underneath, but haven't the top posters won? The history of persuading others to change their behaviour to make life easier for oneself is not riddled with success. There's lots to dislike about how others post (being a grumpy old man, my list is long), but the choice to read others' posts is the reader's alone. I nominate Keith's response as 'Posting of the Month'. -- Tony Wood (... who sometimes forgets to reset his mail client, top-posts and upsets everyone. Fortunately this similarly grumpy old man is not too bothered either way.) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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I second that! On 20/05/14 08:09, Tony Wood wrote: On 20/05/14 07:25, Keith Edmunds wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014 07:03:31 +0100, t...@engineering.selfip.org said: The etiquette was that one should reply underneath, but haven't the top posters won? The history of persuading others to change their behaviour to make life easier for oneself is not riddled with success. There's lots to dislike about how others post (being a grumpy old man, my list is long), but the choice to read others' posts is the reader's alone. I nominate Keith's response as 'Posting of the Month'. I second that! -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On Tue, 20 May 2014 at 07:03:31AM +0100, Tim B wrote: Probably. Sadly when you ask most top-poster why they do it, very few can come up with a good or meaningfully reason to support their behaviour. It appears to have mostly won because: Most email clients encourage it Most people copy what others do without thinking Most people take the path of least resistance While I accept that there are a few cases in which it's okay to top post - I think the sheer volume of uneducated users has eventually prevailed. Sadly almost all non-technical business email is top-posted and it is difficult to read, often incoherent and a great source of confusion in business. I've given up trying to bottom post - except when emailing other technical users, as non-technical users appear to find it confusing to have a trimmed and edited email with the answers to their questions beneath the questions. Then again I was born grumpy - but that does not make me wrong... Tim B. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Owain Clarke simb...@cooptel.net Date:20/05/2014 06:54 (GMT+00:00) To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Hampshire] Top posting I don't post to this list very often, but I am noticing a struggle between top-posters and bottom-posters, probably largely unnoticed to the top-posters. You even get posts in which answers are scattered below and above. I think you can't have both systems, and top posting has become the norm. The etiquette was that one should reply underneath, but haven't the top posters won? Owain -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK No virus was found in this outgoing message as I didn't bother looking. -- anon -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On Tuesday 20 May 2014 11:44:18 Dr A. J. Trickett wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014 at 07:03:31AM +0100, Tim B wrote: Probably. Sadly when you ask most top-poster why they do it, very few can come up with a good or meaningfully reason to support their behaviour. It appears to have mostly won because: Most email clients encourage it Most people copy what others do without thinking Most people take the path of least resistance While I accept that there are a few cases in which it's okay to top post - I think the sheer volume of uneducated users has eventually prevailed. Sadly almost all non-technical business email is top-posted and it is difficult to read, often incoherent and a great source of confusion in business. I've given up trying to bottom post - except when emailing other technical users, as non-technical users appear to find it confusing to have a trimmed and edited email with the answers to their questions beneath the questions. Then again I was born grumpy - but that does not make me wrong... I plough on interleaving. I rarely get complaints. I find top-posting so difficult to follow, that I rarely try. I rarely bother with HTML either. Reading is too difficult for me now, and remaining life too short. If people want me to read their stuff, they must make it easier! And yes, I am a grumpy old . Supply your own noun. ;-) Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
Gmail on mobile actively makes it more difficult to bottom post Anton -- Anton Piatek http://www.strangeparty.com No trees were destroyed in the sending of this message, however, a significant number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. On 20 May 2014 13:21, Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote: On Tue, 20 May 2014 12:48:38 +0100 Lisi hants...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Lisi, I plough on interleaving. I rarely get complaints. Same here. Somebody even asked me what software I used that could do that. I explained it was wetware (i.e. my brain) that did most of the work. They didn't seem keen on that. :-) remaining life too short. If people want me to read their stuff, they must make it easier! And yes, I am a grumpy old . Supply your own noun. ;-) Curmudgeon? :-D I'm the same BTW. With very few exceptions, any HTML email simply gets deleted. -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent You only see me for the clothes that I wear Public Image - Public Image Ltd -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Top posting
On Tuesday 20 May 2014 13:27:50 Anton Piatek wrote: Gmail on mobile actively makes it more difficult to bottom post Really? Click the Respond inline button and it switches to inline quoting, and even adds a proper On X, Y wrote line to the start of the quoted text. You can then start adding text anywhere in the quoted mail. At least it does on my phone. -- Be seeing you,Games: http://www.glendale.org.uk/ Sam. Posts: http://www.google.com/+SamuelPenn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --