[HCDX] Antipodal Focusing, how many SW hops is considered in the 'error margin' voids the definition being met?

2003-09-07 Thread mhev
Antipodal Focusing, how many SW hops is considered in the 'error margin'
voids the definition being met?

1 hop seems to me well within tolerances, but hop lengths do vary with
frequency (unless you are using a 'ground grazing' HRSxxx antenna type).

An SW hop is 200 ... 300 kms (400 ... 600 kms arc-length-path)...


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> Since an antipodal path length is 12,500 miles and the error between the
> true antipode and the antipode proposed earlier by Mr. Giella is over
3,000
> miles, I know I would not consider his example to be anywhere near
> antipodal.
>
> I don't know of any previous claims that antipodal effect extend that far.
I
> wish it did, as southeastern Africa would be most welcome here.
>
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Thomas Giella
> KN4LF
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:09 AM
> To: a Topica ABDX E-List; a HCDX E-List
> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Re: Antipodal Focusing
>
>
> Glenn  And All,
>   Yes you are being a stickler. Yes I didn't pick the best path example
for
> antipodal focusing BUT in my mind as a teacher I was trying to pass along
an
> idea in a simple form, in layman's terms that popped into my head at the
> moment. Yes I'm still suffering from a summer flu and am not on my toes.
Yes
> I think you are flaming me because our political ideologies differ.
>
> 73,
> Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
> Plant City, FL, USA
> EL87WX
>
> KN4LF Daily Solar Space Weather & Geomagnetic Data Archive &
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>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Glenn Hau-ser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:43 PM
> Subject: [HCDX] Re: Antipodal Focusing
>
> > I don`t think I`m being too much of a stickler to point out that the
> > antipodes of Plant City out in the Indian Ocean west of Australia, at
about
> > 28 S, 98 E, is more than 3000 miles, 5 megameters, from Udorn, Thailand.
> > This is ``NEAR``??
> >
> > Grayline enhancement is a far more likely explanation, and this happens
over
> > paths much shorter than antipodal.
> >
> > I can`t speak to 160m contact experience, but I`ll bet the signals from
W &
> > C Australia are coming from close to the true azimuth, and not from
random
> > or any/multiple azimuths as would be the case with true antipodal
focusing.
> > Have you checked this with your 160m beam?
> >
> > I`m with Walt about antipodal focusing being from a tight area. During
his
> > period of activity from Hawaii, Richard E. Wood also made much of
antipodal
> > reception from Zambia.
> >
> > As for programs about propagation prediction, I think experience and
> > understanding the basic principles are more useful.
> >
> > 73, Glenn Hauser





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RE: [HCDX] Re: Antipodal Focusing

2003-09-07 Thread Charles Hutton
Since an antipodal path length is 12,500 miles and the error between the
true antipode and the antipode proposed earlier by Mr. Giella is over 3,000
miles, I know I would not consider his example to be anywhere near
antipodal.

I don't know of any previous claims that antipodal effect extend that far. I
wish it did, as southeastern Africa would be most welcome here.


Chuck

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Glenn  And All,
  Yes you are being a stickler. Yes I didn't pick the best path example for
antipodal focusing BUT in my mind as a teacher I was trying to pass along an
idea in a simple form, in layman's terms that popped into my head at the
moment. Yes I'm still suffering from a summer flu and am not on my toes. Yes
I think you are flaming me because our political ideologies differ.

73,
Thomas F. Giella, KN4LF
Plant City, FL, USA
EL87WX

KN4LF Daily Solar Space Weather & Geomagnetic Data Archive &
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From: "Glenn Hau-ser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 10:43 PM
Subject: [HCDX] Re: Antipodal Focusing


>
> I don`t think I`m being too much of a stickler to point out that the
> antipodes of Plant City out in the Indian Ocean west of Australia, at
about
> 28 S, 98 E, is more than 3000 miles, 5 megameters, from Udorn, Thailand.
> This is ``NEAR``??
>
> Grayline enhancement is a far more likely explanation, and this happens
over
> paths much shorter than antipodal.
>
> I can`t speak to 160m contact experience, but I`ll bet the signals from W
&
> C Australia are coming from close to the true azimuth, and not from random
> or any/multiple azimuths as would be the case with true antipodal
focusing.
> Have you checked this with your 160m beam?
>
> I`m with Walt about antipodal focusing being from a tight area. During his
> period of activity from Hawaii, Richard E. Wood also made much of
antipodal
> reception from Zambia.
>
> As for programs about propagation prediction, I think experience and
> understanding the basic principles are more useful.
>
> 73, Glenn Hauser
>
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[HCDX] Grayline logs

2003-09-07 Thread Gary Crites
 4780 0220 Bolivia  R.Tacana  SS  New Station5040 1438 Woman  in EE with CC accent 
calling out math calculations. Never heard THAT before. 11560 1600+ Guam KSDA with 
their first report of a new season of "Wavescan" 9-7-03.15050 1400  African sounding 
language ?15120 1400+ V.of Nigeria EE Poor signalWhen in doubtstring out more 
wire.73'sGary CritesEureka, CaliforniaSangean 803A, 37.5m tuned wire

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[HCDX] Some logs

2003-09-07 Thread Nicolas Eramo
BOLIVIA:
4856.33 Radio Centenario La Nueva, Santa Cruz de la Sierra, 2320 - 2331, Sep
02, Spanish, religious comments by man announcer, Ads. Id "transmite Radio
Centenario La Nueva", 23322, (Eramo, Argentina)

4905.12 v drifting until 4906 Radio San Miguel, Riberalta, Sep 02, Spanish,
musical program and comments,  IDs "por Radio San Miguel" "Radio San Miguel
estamos transmitiendo desde Riberalta", 23332, (Eramo, Argentina)

CONGO:
4765 Radio Congo, Brazzaville, 0557 - 0600, Sep 02, French, musical program,
comments by man announcer, Id "...Radio Congo..", in // with 5985, 24322,
(Eramo, Argentina)

INDIA:
4880 AIR Lucknow (p), 0035 - 0045, Sep 02, Vernacular, man and female
announcer, AIR and Lucknow was mentioned several times, 34433, (Eramo,
Argentina)

5040 AIR Jeypore, Orissa, 0049 - 0055, Sep 03, Hindi, Musical program,
female announcer, ID "Ye akashavany Jeyspore hai", 34333, (Eramo, Argentina)

MALI:
4835 Rdf. TV Mali, Bamako, 0606 - 0616, Sep 02, French, man announcer, ID
"...Radio Teledifussion Mali...", 24232, (Eramo, Argentina)

NIGERIA:
4770 Radio Nigeria, Kaduna, 0525 - 0530, Sep 02, English, comments by man
announcer, ID "present at Radio Nigeria", 24332, (Eramo, Argentina)

PERU:
4940 Radio San Antonio (p), Villa Atalaya, 2313 - 2317, Sep 01, Spanish, man
announcer, Soccer Match, In the ads mention Atalaya and Ucayali, ads.
Municipalidad Provincial de Atalaya, 24332, (Eramo, Argentina)

4995.59 Radio Andina (p), Huancayo, 0026 - 0030, Sep 03, Spanish, man
announcer, Ads. "Atencion Huancayo", 23332, (Eramo, Argentina)

5009.66 Radio Altura (p), Cerro de Pasco, 0307 - 0315, Sep 06,
Quechua/Spanish, man announcer, tc "diez de la noche con siete minutos" Ads.
with several mention of Cerro de Pasco, religious program, 24332, (Eramo,
Argentina)

5019.92 Radio Horizonte, Chachapoyas, 2334 - 2345, Sep 03, Spanish, musical
program, tc, Ads. "Tarapoto Ciudad de las Palmeras" "..en Chachapoyas
Avenida Libertad..." Id "transmite Horizonte", 24232, (Eramo, Argentina)

5024.94 Radio Quillabamba, Quillabamba, 0002 - 0016, Sep 03, Spanish,
comments by man announcer, ID "...a toda la administracion de Radio
Quillabamba...", 23322, (Eramo, Argentina)

5030, Radio Los Andes, Huamachuco, 2327 - 2332, Sep 06, Spanish, Musical
Program (Huaynos), Radio Los Andes was mentioned several times, "Radio Los
Andes la red integral Andina" "...en Radio Los Andes de lunes a viernes lo
mejor y lo bueno...", 23332, (Eramo, Argentina)

TANZANIA:
6015 Radio Tanzania Zanzibar (p), Dole 0338 - 0350, Sep 05, Vernacular,
comments by female announcer, musical program, news program, 23222, (Eramo,
Argentina)

URUGUAY:
6045.22 Radio Sarandi Sport, Montevideo, 1810 - 1832, Sep 06, Spanish,
soccer match "Argentina vs Chile", Ads. Ids. "saludamos a la audiencia de de
la 890" "a traves de la deportiva del Uruguay", 24222, (Eramo, Argentina)


Location:
Villa Lynch
Prov. Buenos Aires
Argentina

Receivers:
Icom  IC-R75
Kenwood R-2000
Sony ICF 2010

Antennas:
T2FD with balun 3.1
V Inverted 15 mts with balun 1.1
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[HCDX] KN4LF Daily HF/MF Radio Propagation Outlook #2003-14

2003-09-07 Thread Thomas Giella KN4LF
KN4LF Daily HF/MF Radio Propagation Outlook #2003-14
http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf5.htm 

Standard Disclaimer- 

Note! I use "RAW" public domain data from the NOAA Space Environment Center, as well 
as other U.S. government organizations, to produce my "not for profit" propagation 
forecast outlooks. This data is gathered and made public by the U.S. Government using 
taxpayer $$$. However the forecast outlooks that I produce from the "RAW" public 
domain data, is my personal intellectual property. Therefore the propagation outlooks 
contained herein is copyrighted © 1988-2003 by Thomas F. Giella and the Florida Space 
And Atmospheric Weather Institute, all rights reserved. Reproduction of information 
herein is allowed as long as proper credit is given. 

Also space weather forecasting is still an inexact science. The discussions, forecasts 
and outlooks are not official but for educational purposes only and are subject to 
human error and acts of God, therefore no guarantee or warranty implied 

Date Format is YY/MM/DD 

Published Sunday 03/09/07 At 1500 UTC 


PAST 24 HOUR SOLAR, SPACE WEATHER AND GEOMAGNETIC INDICES- 


Sunspot Groups- No sunspot groups currently contain twisted magnetic fields capable of 
producing very large or huge M and X class solar flares. 

Solar Flux Readings- 104 105 105 

Sunspot Number- 60 

X-Ray Solar Flares- C-0 M-0 X-0 

X-Ray Solar flare activity has been unusually quiet lately with no M class flares 
since 03/08/19 and no X class solar flares since 03/06/15. However in the past few 
minutes a potentially large M or X class X-ray flare has occurred. Further data is 
unavailable a this moment. 

Averaged Background X-Ray Flux- B2.1 

Energetic Protons >10 MeV (10+0)- None 

Geo-effective (Earth Facing) Coronal Mass Ejections (CME)- None 

Recurrent Coronal Hole #55 will become geo-effective (Earth facing) on 03/09/06-07 and 
begin impacting the geomagnetic field by 03/09/08. 

In the past 24 hour period the Ap index has been at active levels, with a peak of 17. 

In the past 24 hour period the Kp index has been at unsettled levels, with a peak of 
3. 


Here are some "general" guidelines concerning correlation of propagation indices to 
actual expected HF/MF propagation conditions. 

1.) Dropping indices numbers are better, except for solar flux on HF. 
2.) For medium frequencies a solar flux under 150, under 100 better, 70 is best for E 
layer multi hop. Keep in mind though that the 10.7 cm (2800 mhz) solar flux index is 
not a "reliable" gauge of ionization in our atmosphere, as the energy of photons at 
this frequency is to low on the order of one million times. 
2a.) For high frequencies a solar flux of 100 is okay, 150 better, above 200 best for 
F layer multi hop. 
3.) Solar flux of at least 100 for E valley-F layer ducting mechanism. 
4.) Previous 24 hour Ap index under 10, under 7 for several days consecutively is 
best. 
5.) Previous 3 hour Kp index under 3 for mid latitude paths, under 2 for high latitude 
paths, 0-1 for several days consecutively is best. 
6.) Energetic protons no greater then 10 MeV (10+0) for 160/120 meters and no greater 
then (10-1) on MF broadcast band. 
7.) Background x-ray flux levels less than C1 for several days consecutively for 
160/120 meters and less then B9 for MF broadcast band. 
8.) No current STRATWARM alert. 
9.) IMF Bz with a (+) positive sign, indicates a lesser chance of high latitude path 
auroral absorption/unpredictable refraction or scattering of MF RF signals, when the 
Kp is above 3. 


TODAY'S PROPAGATION LESSON #6- 

Electron Gyro-frequency Absorption- 

Unfortunately medium frequencies fall within and very near the electron 
gyro-frequency, which is in the approximate range of 630 to 1630 kHz. Of course this 
means that the MF AM broadcast band and 160 meter band is impacted significantly. 
There is a direct correlation between the strength of the Earth's magnetic field lines 
and electron gyro frequencies. 

Basically the electron gyro-frequency is a measure of the interaction between an 
electron in the Earth's upper atmosphere and the Earth's magnetic field. The closer a 
transmitted  medium frequency carrier or sideband wave frequency is to the electron 
gyro-frequency, the more energy that is absorbed by the gyro electrons from that 
carrier wave frequency. This is especially true for medium frequency radio signals 
traveling perpendicular to the Earth's magnetic field, meaning high latitude NW and NE 
propagation paths. Unfortunately this form of medium frequency signal absorption is 
ALWAYS present. 

To see a global map of gyro-frequencies go to this web link: 
 http://www.kn4lf.com/gyrofrequency.jpg 


72 HOUR PROPAGATION OUTLOOK- 

We will see continued quiet Kp-<2 to unsettled Kp-3 geomagnetic conditions through the 
8th. Unfortunately though we can expect a return to active Kp-4 to minor storm Kp-5 by 
conditions on the 9th, thanks to recurrent Coronal Hole #55. 


GLOBAL HF 3000-3 KC PROPAGATION CONDI

[HCDX] 4760 khz-AIR Chennai?

2003-09-07 Thread Chris
Hi
I have been listening to a station here on 4760 for about the last half
hour after 1100 GMT and am wondering if this isn't AIR Chennai I am
hearing.
Hearing what sounds like Indian subcontinent music with male announcer
in unknown dialect at times. Fading at times but  sometimes clearly
audible using the rx320 and 150 ft eastern antenna. Signal low maybe s-3
at best using usb mode and 2.1 filter.
Anyone else hearing this?
Chris



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[HCDX] QSL

2003-09-07 Thread Arnaldo L. Slaen
ECUADOR/GERMANY:
17795 ADDX (Assoziation Deutschsprachiger Kurzwellenhörer),
ADDX e.V., Stichwort "Radio HCJB", Postfach 130 124,
40551 Düsseldorf, Germany. Special QSL card for a reception
report to DX programme via HCJB.V/S: Hans W. Lange.
I received some stikers too.  12 days.
Thanks Gabriel I. Barrera for the information about this
special QSL!
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

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[HCDX] Latinoamerican Mystery

2003-09-07 Thread Arnaldo L. Slaen

PARAGUAY???:
6105 Radio Primero de Marzo, Asuncion
1003-1033, September 07. Spanish/Guarani.
Catholic programme in spanish: "...con la
lectura de un pasaje de La Pasion, segun
cuando Jesus.-Es Palabra del Señor";
Catholic songs.
After, the speaker talk in guarani language
a messagge from: "la Conferencia Episcopal Paraguaya,
en busca de un Paraguay.."
"Estamos celebrando la Santa Misa, aqui afuera
y el proximo domingoel nuevo obispo de Concepcion...
y tambien el obispo de Tamanda-e".-
ID: "a traves de Primero de Marzo".-34442
At 1030 UTC abrupt s/off and following ID:
"Esta es Radio Cultura Filadelfia.transmitiendo
en ondas curtas.anunciando a palavra da
Diosa radio evangelica do Brasil".-
¿Radio Cultura Filadelfia is a evangelic station but
rent transmission hours to catholic transmission by
other station? or ¿Radio Primero de Marzo is on SW
now?
Thanks DXer Dario Camporini, Munro, Argentina,
for the tip!!!
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

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[HCDX] Logs from Argentina

2003-09-07 Thread Arnaldo L. Slaen
BOLIVIA:
5580,4 Radio San Jose, San Jose de Chiquitos,
2253-2300, September 06. Romantic music in spanish
non stop. 34433
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

COLOMBIA:
6010,16 La Voz de tu Conciencia (t), Puerto Lleras,
0845-0856, September 01. Spanish transmission.
Talk by two males about the traditional Church.
Music. 32422. QRM from Radio Parinacota, Chile.
Best reception in LSB mode.
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

CHILE:
6010 Radio Parinacota, Putre, 0859-0915, September 01.
Spanish. Romantic music in spanish. Complete ID as:
"Desde Putre, 94,5 FM y 6010 kilociclos, banda
regional de 49 metros".- TC: "Es la hora 5 en punto";
32432, with QRM from La Voz de tu Conciencia (t) on 6010,16.-
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

PERU:
6188 Radio Oriente, Yurimaguas, 2245-2251, September 06.
Spanish. Pops (Celine Dion, etc).- ID:
"el sabado espectacular de Oriente!!"; 3
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

6819,77 La Voz de las Huarinjas, Huancabamba,
2343-2353, September 06. Spanish.
Tecnocumbias, TC & ID as:
"las 6 de la tarde con 50 minutos, la hora
a traves de la radio La Voz de las Huarinjasa traves
de la señal de La Voz de las Huarinjas".- A man conduced
the programme and talk with programme listeners:
"Alo, buenas nochesquien habla.".-
Greetings for programme listeners: "Un saludo especial
para Gumersindo., para.., paraquien se
encuentra trabajando en Chota...", 3
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

VENEZUELA:
4939,83 Radio Amazonas, Puerto Ayacucho, 2333-2342,
September 06. Spanish.Interview to a Puerto Ayacucho
government functionary. He sayed about different
subjects. 24332.- I heard the station at 0010+ with
a religious programme.-
(Arnaldo Slaen, Argentina)

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[HCDX] Basel Dx Daily Logbook

2003-09-07 Thread YvesPhoenix
Khz/ModeUTC ITU SINPO   Station - Details
Basel Dx Daily Logbook: Samstag, 06.09.2003
***  Internet: http://hometown.aol.de/yvesphoenix/BaselDX0.html  ***
***  Qth: Eimeldingen, south-west Germany, 10 km north of city Basel ( CH )  
***
***  Receiver: Kenwood TS-440S & ATS-909  ***
***  Ant(1): Multiband Groundplane "GPM-1500", vertical, outdoor  ***
*** Ant(2): 20m longwire indoor & MTFT magnetic balun ***
*** Antennatuner:  MFJ-945D & MFJ-16010 ***

1386,00 21.26   GUI 25211   Radio Rurale, Labe, f, laute Mod., tiefes 
fading
1350,10 21.29   ARM 25233   DW Relays Armenien, a-px, id & email, laute 
Mod.  
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Re: [HCDX] Clarification needed on some stations....

2003-09-07 Thread capercaillie

> 0508 UTC  on 6195  ---"ragtime piano" followed by German female 
> announcer, heard her say "Deutsche Welle." When I checked EIBI, I came 
> up with the BBC :  I did not see any listing for DW at that time, so was 
> I listening to a German broadcast from the BBC, and if so, why did the 
> announcer say "Deutsche Welle"???
That would be a sensation. BBC German is only on FM (I'm happy to live in
Leipzig, one of the few cities served). Either it is something brand new, or a
tx switching error, or some spurious in your receiver. It's right that DW
shouldn't be there. 6190 Deutschlandfunk, from tx in Berlin, has not enough
power to be *that* strong in NM on 6195.

> 0430 1915   NIG Radio Nigeria Abuja E.. NIG 909 7275
> 0430 2305   NIG FRCN KadunaE,Vn NIG 4770 6090

"FRCN" is Federal Radio Corporation of Nigeria. It is quite common for them
to relay central news, from Lagos, or nowadays maybe Abuja (Lagos used to be
Kaduna's "sister" station on 4990). Not only in these joint broadcast FRCN
stations often ID as "Radio Nigeria", so it was definitely Kaduna you listened
to.
I think I should replace the official "FRCN" by "Radio Nigeria" in my list
for clarification.
 
> Also, at 0507 I picked up on 6125  SODRE, which is from URG  Uruguay, I
> believe,
> according to EIBI. The station was playing soft jazz and the announcer was
> speaking Spanish.

Actually there is another valid entry which seems to be mory likely -
although less exotic:
0500 0600   E   Radio Ext. de EspanaS   NAm 6055 6125/CTR

I.e. Spanish National Radio from Costa Rica... sorry for that.


73,
EiBi


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[HCDX] interesting stations

2003-09-07 Thread Chris
Hi
This past couple of days  has been interesting to say the least.
6209.83 R. Fana  Ethiopia heard 9/6/03 with s-5 signal
4874.94 R Roraima Brasil heard 9/6/03 signal of s-7
4760 ELWA? Liberia? Not sure on this one but sounded like them .Very
weak but audible s-2
Last but not least I was on mw band and heard several Cuban or Mexican
AM stations on 540 640 and 1180 respectively. Varying signals on those.
All heard using rx320 and either 150 ft wire or 50 ft wire.


Chris

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