Re: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX?
Radio New Zealand International have recently received a Reception report requesting a QSL from an Internet logging on a Pentium 4 Computer. Their problem. 73 Enrico ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt
RE: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX?
Last year I had a disagreement with Glenn Hauser about exactly the same subject. On that occasion someone from USA sent Gleen a message saying he had got a verification (QSL) from Liechtenstein. I thought Radio Liechtenstein was on Shortwave but for my frustration Glenn told me that this DX er had heard the station over the Internet. Well, I still consider QSL'ing a radio station over the WEB something stupid. If RNZI wants to reply this message I would suggest them to send an email QSL confirming the WEB DX or whatever you want to call it. If we start accepting this kind of thing we could find ourselves in a ridiculous situation where the radio will virtually disappear and will be replaced by a computer. If this is the case, how about if I start reporting and QSL'ing TV stations that I catch on Cable ? Marcelo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nicholls Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 3:35 p.m. To: Hard Core DX Subject: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX? Radio New Zealand International have recently received a Reception report requesting a QSL from an Internet logging on a Pentium 4 Computer. It raises some interesting points on whether logging a station is really DX and worth a QSL? Any genuine feedback or comment will be passed on to Radio NZ International Hi Mark RNZI has received this reception report requesting a QSL. As you will see the receiver was a Pentium 4 1.7 ghz. computer - I had a chuckle about it, but the guy is quite serious. I would be interested to know from the amateur community what they think? My view is a QSL card was intended to acknowledge the expertise of an operator of a short-wave radio in hearing a distant station. Surely clicking on a URL does not count??!! Some may call me old fashioned, but I would appreciate feed-back on this issue! Cheers Adrian From: Name removed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reception Report The following reception report was submitted by j on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 14:47:20 -- - country: CAN receiver: pentium 4 1.7 ghz. antenna: internet strength: 5 Interference: 4 Overall_Merit: 4 date: 04/08/2003 time: Time in UTC frequency: In kHz programme_details: Pacific news comments: I would appreciate a QSL card to confirm reception. Please include sticker, pennant and station information. thank you. It is always nice to hear a station as far as New Zealand. ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt
RE: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX?
He heard it on SOMEONE ELSE'S RADIO...it's not HIS reception ;) Yodar More STUFF! Original Message Follows From: Marcelo Toniolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mark Nicholls' [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 'HARD CORE DX' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX? Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 23:47:52 +1200 Last year I had a disagreement with Glenn Hauser about exactly the same subject. On that occasion someone from USA sent Gleen a message saying he had got a verification (QSL) from Liechtenstein. I thought Radio Liechtenstein was on Shortwave but for my frustration Glenn told me that this DX er had heard the station over the Internet. Well, I still consider QSL'ing a radio station over the WEB something stupid. If RNZI wants to reply this message I would suggest them to send an email QSL confirming the WEB DX or whatever you want to call it. If we start accepting this kind of thing we could find ourselves in a ridiculous situation where the radio will virtually disappear and will be replaced by a computer. If this is the case, how about if I start reporting and QSL'ing TV stations that I catch on Cable ? Marcelo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nicholls Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 3:35 p.m. To: Hard Core DX Subject: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX? Radio New Zealand International have recently received a Reception report requesting a QSL from an Internet logging on a Pentium 4 Computer. It raises some interesting points on whether logging a station is really DX and worth a QSL? Any genuine feedback or comment will be passed on to Radio NZ International Hi Mark RNZI has received this reception report requesting a QSL. As you will see the receiver was a Pentium 4 1.7 ghz. computer - I had a chuckle about it, but the guy is quite serious. I would be interested to know from the amateur community what they think? My view is a QSL card was intended to acknowledge the expertise of an operator of a short-wave radio in hearing a distant station. Surely clicking on a URL does not count??!! Some may call me old fashioned, but I would appreciate feed-back on this issue! Cheers Adrian From: Name removed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reception Report The following reception report was submitted by j on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 14:47:20 -- - country: CAN receiver: pentium 4 1.7 ghz. antenna: internet strength: 5 Interference: 4 Overall_Merit: 4 date: 04/08/2003 time: Time in UTC frequency: In kHz programme_details: Pacific news comments: I would appreciate a QSL card to confirm reception. Please include sticker, pennant and station information. thank you. It is always nice to hear a station as far as New Zealand. ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt
Re: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX?
Boy, not enough details for even a shortwave reception report...and what was the interference that this report claims with a SIO 544? Just my thoughts! Mick Radio New Zealand International have recently received a Reception report requesting a QSL from an Internet logging on a Pentium 4 Computer. It raises some interesting points on whether logging a station is really DX and worth a QSL? Any genuine feedback or comment will be passed on to Radio NZ International Hi Mark RNZI has received this reception report requesting a QSL. As you will see the receiver was a Pentium 4 1.7 ghz. computer - I had a chuckle about it, but the guy is quite serious. I would be interested to know from the amateur community what they think? My view is a QSL card was intended to acknowledge the expertise of an operator of a short-wave radio in hearing a distant station. Surely clicking on a URL does not count??!! Some may call me old fashioned, but I would appreciate feed-back on this issue! Cheers Adrian From: Name removed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reception Report The following reception report was submitted by j on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 14:47:20 -- - country: CAN receiver: pentium 4 1.7 ghz. antenna: internet strength: 5 Interference: 4 Overall_Merit: 4 date: 04/08/2003 time: Time in UTC frequency: In kHz programme_details: Pacific news comments: I would appreciate a QSL card to confirm reception. Please include sticker, pennant and station information. thank you. It is always nice to hear a station as far as New Zealand. ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt
RE: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX?
Dear DX-friends, This subject was discussed three years ago at the Conference of the European DX Council in Barcelona and there was general agreement that WEB LISTENING cannot be regarded as DX-ING. It is another hobby which just requires that you know certain web addresses. The stations are no more distant than your PC. Best 73, Anker Petersen Denmark On 8 Aug 2003 at 23:47, Marcelo Toniolo wrote: Last year I had a disagreement with Glenn Hauser about exactly the same subject. On that occasion someone from USA sent Gleen a message saying he had got a verification (QSL) from Liechtenstein. I thought Radio Liechtenstein was on Shortwave but for my frustration Glenn told me that this DX er had heard the station over the Internet. Well, I still consider QSL'ing a radio station over the WEB something stupid. If RNZI wants to reply this message I would suggest them to send an email QSL confirming the WEB DX or whatever you want to call it. If we start accepting this kind of thing we could find ourselves in a ridiculous situation where the radio will virtually disappear and will be replaced by a computer. If this is the case, how about if I start reporting and QSL'ing TV stations that I catch on Cable ? Marcelo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Nicholls Sent: Friday, 8 August 2003 3:35 p.m. To: Hard Core DX Subject: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX? Radio New Zealand International have recently received a Reception report requesting a QSL from an Internet logging on a Pentium 4 Computer. It raises some interesting points on whether logging a station is really DX and worth a QSL? Any genuine feedback or comment will be passed on to Radio NZ International Hi Mark RNZI has received this reception report requesting a QSL. As you will see the receiver was a Pentium 4 1.7 ghz. computer - I had a chuckle about it, but the guy is quite serious. I would be interested to know from the amateur community what they think? My view is a QSL card was intended to acknowledge the expertise of an operator of a short-wave radio in hearing a distant station. Surely clicking on a URL does not count??!! Some may call me old fashioned, but I would appreciate feed-back on this issue! Cheers Adrian From: Name removed To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reception Report The following reception report was submitted by j on Tuesday, August 5, 2003 at 14:47:20 -- - country: CAN receiver: pentium 4 1.7 ghz. antenna: internet strength: 5 Interference: 4 Overall_Merit: 4 date: 04/08/2003 time: Time in UTC frequency: In kHz programme_details: Pacific news comments: I would appreciate a QSL card to confirm reception. Please include sticker, pennant and station information. thank you. It is always nice to hear a station as far as New Zealand. ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at
Re: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX?
Marcelo Said: Last year I had a disagreement with Glenn Hauser about exactly the same subject. On that occasion someone from USA sent Gleen a message saying he had got a verification (QSL) from Liechtenstein. I thought Radio Liechtenstein was on Shortwave but for my frustration Glenn told me that this DX er had heard the station over the Internet. Thomas Says: If it doesn't fade (QSB) or have noise (QRN) it's not radio. Collecting QSL cards for hearing radio stations over the Internet must be a separate hobby, not to intertwined with QSLing radio stations via the ionosphere. Here in the U.S. though, if our FCC allows BPL which is a broadband Internet connection via AC power lines, the QRN will be so bad, as to relegate all of us to listening to radio via Internet. 73, Thomas F. Giella, Meteorologist C/S KN4LF Plant City, FL, USA EL87WX Florida Space Atmospheric Weather Institute: http://www.kn4lf.com/fsawi.htm KN4LF Daily Solar Space Weather Geomagnetic Data Archive: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf5.htm KN4LF 160-10 Meter Amateur Radio Resources More: http://www.kn4lf.com/kn4lf.htm Friend Website Design Studio: http://www.kn4lf.com --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free Thanks To Grisoft AVG. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/2003 ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt
Re: [HCDX] Is Computer Logging DX?
Hi Mark, Friday, August 8, 2003, 5:34:58 AM, you wrote: Radio New Zealand International have recently received a Reception report requesting a QSL from an Internet logging on a Pentium 4 Computer. It raises some interesting points on whether logging a station is really DX and worth a QSL? Any genuine feedback or comment will be passed on to Radio NZ International DX stands for a distant and unknown station. Distance does not mean anything on the internet and listening to an audio stream seems to me much more like a telephone call rather than a challenge. If the station is willing to send QSLs as a kind of PR, that's fine. I'm not interested in such confirmations, but if other listeners have fun collecting them - alright. It's a hobby and we should try to covince those listeners that shortwave has it's own quality. My 2 ct. Willi Passmann ---[Start Commercial]- World Radio TV Handbook 2003 is out! Order it now! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0823059677/hardcoredxcom ---[End Commercial]--- Hard-Core-DX mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dallas.hard-core-dx.com/mailman/listinfo/hard-core-dx http://www.hard-core-dx.com/ ___ THE INFORMATION IN THIS ARTICLE IS FREE. It may be copied, distributed and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science License published by Michael Stutz at http://dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt
