Re: [Hardhats-members] Volume Sets

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Self
GT.M is MUMPS. The biggest difference from other MUMPS in my view is that it 
attempts to
fit in more natively with its host operating system and doesn't try to pretend 
that it is
a complete programming environment of itself, as MUMPS generally was 20-30 
years ago.

After configuration, you could use GT.M almost exclusively in a familiar
MUMPS-is-everything kind of mode, but why would you? That would ignore most of 
the power
and capabilities of a modern operating system like Linux - and all of the 
wonderful tools
developed for and in other languages.


Greg Kreis wrote:
Thanks for the run down.  I am creating the acculturation CD that
bhaskar recommended.  Sounds like quite a different culture to adopt.
Must have been fun to map the Kernel to this platform  ;-) ;-)

Jim Self wrote:

Greg Kreis wrote:


I can understand that the Volume concept is handled by the idea of a
path in Linux, right?]



It's been more than 20 years since I worked on DSM, so their concept of UCI 
(User Class
Identifier) and volume sets is not very fresh in my mind. Still, I am pretty 
sure the
answer is no.



Hmm... Are the globals just Linux files?



No, again. Globals are stored in special data files with .dat extention. The 
default
installations put all globals into a single mumps.dat file but in production 
systems you
would generally break out large globals into separate files, like 
patients.dat and
mail.dat, or groups several related medium sized globals together in one 
file. The
different .dat files can have different ownership and permissions settings 
and different
settings for journalling as well so some could be configured read only for 
most users or
optimized for use as temporary scratch space, etc.



If so,
wouldn't the directory take the place of the UCI?



A globals directory is actually a special file (mumps.gld, by default) that 
describes a
set of .dat files and how globals will be mapped to them.



But I guess the next
question is how is this exposed inside GT.M?



The current global directory is held in the variable $zgbldir and the current 
routine
mapping is in $zroutines. You can NEW these variables and SET them to 
different values to
temporarily reference a different mapping of globals and/or routines. They 
are initialized
with the environment variables gtmgbldir and gtmroutines.

I think I recall that you can also reference a global directory explicitly 
via extended
global syntax (i.e. ^[gbldir]gloname), but I haven't had occasion to use that 
in a very
long time.

---
Jim Self
Systems Architect, Lead Developer
VMTH Computer Services, UC Davis
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[Hardhats-members] Re: Linux question: Setting up DVD for backup

2005-03-24 Thread Bhaskar, KS
Title: Re: Linux question: Setting up DVD for backup






Mark very reasonably threw up all over my posting of the use of xhost +. Thank you, because I deserved it, especially for not including a security admonition.

When I use xhost +, it is always on a computer that is behind at least two firewalls, one of which is running on the local computer, and both of which block all ports except a handful. X is always blocked - I never permit direct remote X, and always require ssh with X forwarding for remote X access.

The analogy is like a War Room - there are all kinds of barriers to getting in, but once inside, people can converse freely.

So, to anyone who finds k3b runs only as root - please set file permissions so that you don't need to. And don't follow my example of using xhost + unless you know you are in a well-secured environment.

-- Bhaskar





[Hardhats-members] Relevance of VistA to control of HIV/ AIDS

2005-03-24 Thread Joseph Puthooran
At the conference of voluntary hospitals at New Delhi on the 2nd
of  April (www.etipl.com), we are also having representation
from national bodies involved in control of HIV/AIDS and
Tuberculosis in the country. Can we know if VistA can play a
useful role in these two areas and also to understand how we
could promote its relevance to these organizations.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Relevance of VistA to control of HIV/ AIDS

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
It seems I heard some scuttlebutt a while back that some of the Hardhats were 
either working on  a project or wanting to work on a project in Africa that 
would use VistA to serve as a repository for data collected on the treatment 
and test results of AIDS patients being taken care of in outlying areas where 
there were little resouces.  Perhaps someone can enlighten us about that. .

On Thursday 24 March 2005 08:41 am, Joseph Puthooran wrote:
 At the conference of voluntary hospitals at New Delhi on the 2nd
 of  April (www.etipl.com), we are also having representation
 from national bodies involved in control of HIV/AIDS and
 Tuberculosis in the country. Can we know if VistA can play a
 useful role in these two areas and also to understand how we
 could promote its relevance to these organizations.

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[Hardhats-members] Fwd: Revival of MUMPS/M whatever you want to call it (was) Revival of the MDC?

2005-03-24 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
I think the discussion about the MDC needs to be put into a broader
context.

From my less technical vantage point I sense that the root driver for
a revived MDC is the very strong need for countering the argument that
MUMPS is a dead languagethat is one of the major objections that
potential VistA adopters raise. My 2cents worth of advice is that what
we need is a strategy for adressing this kind of objectionand that
may include the existence of an MDC-like organization..and it may not.
What is needed is a clear set of strategic objectives before there is
too much spinning of tires because the perspective may be too narrow.

Joseph

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:54 -0500, Ed de Moel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 I intended to be present at the discussions in Boston, however,
 a more pressing matter involves that I'll be in Odessa (Ukraine)
 that week, so I had to cancel travel plans to Boston.
 
 To all who are there: all the best and enjoy the festif\vities around
 the eve of $Horolog=60,000.
 
 Here's what this message is about:
 
 Every now and then I get contacted with questions about the
 current status of the MDC. And every now and then there is
 a suggestion to revive the committee.
 
 The current status of the committee is:
  - it still exists
  - the most recent meeting was in September 1999
(during this meeting only organizational issues were discussed)
  - the most recent meeting where there was a discussion
of any techinical issues was in September 1998
  - depending on the criteria to determine membership,
current membership is any number of institutions
(not individuals) between 6 and 23.
 
 My personal opinion about the MDC is:
  - The committee as we know it has served its purpose
and currently has no purpose anymore.
  - If a roster of work could be defined for a new organization
that would build upon the work of the MDC, it is better
to shut down the MDC and start a new organization with
its own mission and its own bylaws.
  - Converting the MDC into a new organization without
violating any of the bylaws of the MDC is close to
impossible.
 
 Further background:
 
 There are many models on which a Standards Developing
 Organization (SDO) can be based. We are familiar with the models
 of ANSI and ISO, and we are aware of the models used by IEEE, w3c
 and DICOM. However, there is one aspect that is common to all
 standards and models of operation: there is a group of
 implementors who are committed (either voluntarily as in ANSI and
 ISO, or by contract as in DICOM and some subgroups of IEEE) to
 implement any changes to the standard within a certain amount of
 time after the publication of a new standard.
 
 The MDC published its last official standard in 1995. This
 standard has been implemented fully in only one implementation
 (DSM), which is currently no longer supported. All
 implementations that are currently on the market did not
 implement one or more details from this standard. Since the
 commercial success of all of these implementations is sufficient
 for the needs of their users and implementors, there are are not
 even plans to implement the remaining details.
 
 As fas as the other MUMPS related standards is concerned
 (OMI, GKS Binding, X-Window binding, MWAPI): OMI is still
 supported by some vendors, but I am not aware that any of the
 other standards is still actively supported by any vendor.
 
 After the 1995 MDC standard became official, well over 100
 modifications to that standard were approved by the MDC, and
 almost none of these have been implemented by any implementor.
 Clearly, there is no group of implementors who are committed to
 implementing any of the MDC's standards, and therefore it is my
 opinion that the MDC as a committee has outlived its usefulness
 and ought to be formally dissolved.
 
 Note that, whether or not an MDC exists, the ISO standards will
 continue to exist, until ISO votes them out of existence. In the
 fall of 2005, ISO will review the status of the MDC documents,
 and, as far as I know, the recommendations from the various
 member countries are to re-affirm the documents (Language Standard,
 OMI and MWAPI) with the intent to stabilize them, in other words,
 it looks like ISO will retain the standards for the forseeable
 future. Also, as long as these documents are ISO standards,
 the copyrights for the documents will remain at ISO.
 
 Of course, if the MDC decides to dissolve itself, appropriate
 notice should be given to ISO, and a decision should be made
 as to who would become (or remain) responsible for the maintance
 the new documents. The current MDC liaison and project editor
 is Kate Schell.
 
 Aside note: the current document editor for the draft MDC Standards
 is Ed de Moel.
 
 
 Respectfully submitted,
 Ed de Moel
 Secretary of the MDC.
 
 -- 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fwd: Revival of MUMPS/M whatever you want to call it (was) Revival of the MDC?

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis
Good points Joseph!
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
I think the discussion about the MDC needs to be put into a broader
context.
From my less technical vantage point I sense that the root driver for
a revived MDC is the very strong need for countering the argument that
MUMPS is a dead languagethat is one of the major objections that
potential VistA adopters raise. My 2cents worth of advice is that what
we need is a strategy for adressing this kind of objectionand that
may include the existence of an MDC-like organization..and it may not.
What is needed is a clear set of strategic objectives before there is
too much spinning of tires because the perspective may be too narrow.
Joseph
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:54 -0500, Ed de Moel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 

I intended to be present at the discussions in Boston, however,
a more pressing matter involves that I'll be in Odessa (Ukraine)
that week, so I had to cancel travel plans to Boston.
To all who are there: all the best and enjoy the festif\vities around
the eve of $Horolog=60,000.
Here's what this message is about:
Every now and then I get contacted with questions about the
current status of the MDC. And every now and then there is
a suggestion to revive the committee.
The current status of the committee is:
- it still exists
- the most recent meeting was in September 1999
  (during this meeting only organizational issues were discussed)
- the most recent meeting where there was a discussion
  of any techinical issues was in September 1998
- depending on the criteria to determine membership,
  current membership is any number of institutions
  (not individuals) between 6 and 23.
My personal opinion about the MDC is:
- The committee as we know it has served its purpose
  and currently has no purpose anymore.
- If a roster of work could be defined for a new organization
  that would build upon the work of the MDC, it is better
  to shut down the MDC and start a new organization with
  its own mission and its own bylaws.
- Converting the MDC into a new organization without
  violating any of the bylaws of the MDC is close to
  impossible.
Further background:
There are many models on which a Standards Developing
Organization (SDO) can be based. We are familiar with the models
of ANSI and ISO, and we are aware of the models used by IEEE, w3c
and DICOM. However, there is one aspect that is common to all
standards and models of operation: there is a group of
implementors who are committed (either voluntarily as in ANSI and
ISO, or by contract as in DICOM and some subgroups of IEEE) to
implement any changes to the standard within a certain amount of
time after the publication of a new standard.
The MDC published its last official standard in 1995. This
standard has been implemented fully in only one implementation
(DSM), which is currently no longer supported. All
implementations that are currently on the market did not
implement one or more details from this standard. Since the
commercial success of all of these implementations is sufficient
for the needs of their users and implementors, there are are not
even plans to implement the remaining details.
As fas as the other MUMPS related standards is concerned
(OMI, GKS Binding, X-Window binding, MWAPI): OMI is still
supported by some vendors, but I am not aware that any of the
other standards is still actively supported by any vendor.
After the 1995 MDC standard became official, well over 100
modifications to that standard were approved by the MDC, and
almost none of these have been implemented by any implementor.
Clearly, there is no group of implementors who are committed to
implementing any of the MDC's standards, and therefore it is my
opinion that the MDC as a committee has outlived its usefulness
and ought to be formally dissolved.
Note that, whether or not an MDC exists, the ISO standards will
continue to exist, until ISO votes them out of existence. In the
fall of 2005, ISO will review the status of the MDC documents,
and, as far as I know, the recommendations from the various
member countries are to re-affirm the documents (Language Standard,
OMI and MWAPI) with the intent to stabilize them, in other words,
it looks like ISO will retain the standards for the forseeable
future. Also, as long as these documents are ISO standards,
the copyrights for the documents will remain at ISO.
Of course, if the MDC decides to dissolve itself, appropriate
notice should be given to ISO, and a decision should be made
as to who would become (or remain) responsible for the maintance
the new documents. The current MDC liaison and project editor
is Kate Schell.
Aside note: the current document editor for the draft MDC Standards
is Ed de Moel.
Respectfully submitted,
Ed de Moel
Secretary of the MDC.
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.  

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
 came across VistA Web, which can be used by
 providers to access their patient's record from the
 Internet. 
 To get it up and running, an EMR.zip file is
 required.  Where I can get it from?
 
 Usha
 
 




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Re: [Hardhats-members] Relevance of VistA to control of HIV/ AIDS

2005-03-24 Thread A. Forrey
The key to utilization of VistA in non-VA environemnts is first to 
understand the conceptual framework of the target environment and what is 
needed for cognitive support of the practitioners who will be using a 
reconfigured VistA. We hardhats get to focused on the technologic issues. 
The concepts of John Zachman on the Framework for Information architecture 
are a general resource. We have passed on to Nancy documents that will 
help provide that framework and help guide what will be needed in your 
target environemnt and, hopefully, she will be able to bring them to the 
meeting. In short they realte to Enterprise View, Life Cycle Principles. 
These are concepts that can be actively applied to the MUMPS datamangement 
environment and the underlying technologic platfiorms; they are an 
integral part of the MDC and are parts that were just beginning to be 
addressed when the MDC had its last meetings. Rick Marshall clearly 
understands these issues and what the new MDC must do beyond the aspects 
that Ed Demoel commented on yesterday but which will illuminate how the 
MUMPS standards are a step beyond what practices are prevalent world wide 
that need application of the Zachman Framework. That should help you seek 
out in Boston key individuals that should help you get started and tie you 
into a powerful network of individuals who can help your Indian 
participants adapt VistA to the emerging international framework for 
healthcare information architectures. The MUMPS community has had (and 
still does) the collaborative synergistic attitude that Octo Barnett 
seeded 45 years ago. If anything, that is the key ingredient to the 
application of information science and technology to healthacre and you 
will be at the Center of it All for the few days you will be in Boston. 
Capture all the seeds so you can followup subsequently to answer your 
question.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Joseph Puthooran wrote:
At the conference of voluntary hospitals at New Delhi on the 2nd
of  April (www.etipl.com), we are also having representation
from national bodies involved in control of HIV/AIDS and
Tuberculosis in the country. Can we know if VistA can play a
useful role in these two areas and also to understand how we
could promote its relevance to these organizations.
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[Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  -** Notice dropout
GTMw $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTMW DIS(SCR)
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTMzwrite
%=SEARCH
A=1
C=,
D0=3
DC=,
DCC=^TIU(8925,
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO(SCR)=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)=X DIS(SCR) I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
DIS(SCR)=S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)=@
DUZ(1)=
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ(AG)=O
DUZ(AUTO)=1
DUZ(BUF)=1
DUZ(LANG)=1
DX=2
DX(0)=I DC[, X ^UTILITY($J,1)
DXS=Y
DY(1)=S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
DN=0,D0=-1
DY(2)=S DN=1 D SEARCH
I(0)=^TIU(8925,
IO=/dev/pts/2
IO(0)=/dev/pts/2
IO(1,/dev/pts/2)=
IO(ERROR)=
IO(HOME)=38^/dev/pts/2
IO(ZIO)=/dev/pts/2
IOBS=$C(8)
IOF=#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)
IOHG=
IOM=80
ION=GTM-UNIX-TELNET
IOPAR=
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST=C-VT100
IOST(0)=9
IOT=VTRM
IOUPAR=
IOX=0
IOXY=W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=
U=^
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH=SEAR
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM=P10025
XQSV=1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^
XQT=A
XQUSER=KEVIN S TOPPENBERG
XQVOL=VOL
XQXFLG=0^0^XUP
XQY=1330
XQY0=DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

Kevin


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RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)


re:  GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73

There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.

   tjh

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  -** Notice dropout
GTMw $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTMW DIS(SCR)
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTMzwrite
%=SEARCH
A=1
C=,
D0=3
DC=,
DCC=^TIU(8925,
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO(SCR)=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)=X DIS(SCR) I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
DIS(SCR)=S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)=@
DUZ(1)=
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ(AG)=O
DUZ(AUTO)=1
DUZ(BUF)=1
DUZ(LANG)=1
DX=2
DX(0)=I DC[, X ^UTILITY($J,1)
DXS=Y
DY(1)=S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
DN=0,D0=-1
DY(2)=S DN=1 D SEARCH
I(0)=^TIU(8925,
IO=/dev/pts/2
IO(0)=/dev/pts/2
IO(1,/dev/pts/2)=
IO(ERROR)=
IO(HOME)=38^/dev/pts/2
IO(ZIO)=/dev/pts/2
IOBS=$C(8)
IOF=#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)
IOHG=
IOM=80
ION=GTM-UNIX-TELNET
IOPAR=
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST=C-VT100
IOST(0)=9
IOT=VTRM
IOUPAR=
IOX=0
IOXY=W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=
U=^
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH=SEAR
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM=P10025
XQSV=1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^
XQT=A
XQUSER=KEVIN S TOPPENBERG
XQVOL=VOL
XQXFLG=0^0^XUP
XQY=1330
XQY0=DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fwd: Revival of MUMPS/M whatever you want to call it (was) Revival of the MDC?

2005-03-24 Thread A. Forrey
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005, Greg Kreis wrote:
Good points Joseph!
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
I think the discussion about the MDC needs to be put into a broader
context.
Joseph:
You are right in that the issue of the MDC must exist in a broader context 
that already exists but we must get the MUMPS community actively 
discussing MUMPS' role in thsi context. Think first of ISO TC-215 on 
Health INformatics, then think next of the ANSI Health Informatics 
Standards Board in the US and the other worldwide national standards 
bodies. The MUMPS language as Ed DeMoel commented yesterday exists in both 
of these contexts. I disagree with him that the MDC is irrelevant; for the 
end beneficiary it is a key building block in an ediface that brings 
benefits to healthcare professional disciplines by being the technologic 
vehicle by which the information and knowledge of recent science and 
technology is brought to the point of application by an idividual 
practitoner to an individual patient. MUMPS does not exist in a vaccum and 
it did not originate in Boston in a vacuum; nor did it progress to yield 
VistA in avacuum. It is a key component of Enterprise View, Life Cycle 
Principles; thus the importance of the MDC needs to be seen in terms of 
its long term and current context role. If you can understand the 
activities of ONCHIT here in the US and similar activities in UK, the CEN 
TC-251 and the activities in India, then cocnetrate on the comments of 
Greg Kries about the different context of thinking about MUMPS compared to 
20 yrs ago. Nevertheless, the MUMPS community was 20 yrs ago thinking of 
the kind of environment in which we now exist and its associated 
challenges; we just need to rise to that vision and articulate exactly 
the strategic plan  you are demanding.

I can tell you that healthcare has passed in the 1990s through the 
Decade of Denial into the current Decade of Refusal to do just that 
and, like the bunch of bums setting at the sewer outfall Waiting For 
Godot to save them.. It will suffer the same fate until it addresses that 
it will be saved when it gets off its butt and does the needed work in the 
smae way the MUMPS proceeded in the 1960s when Octo got moving. Th MUMPS 
community has that heritage and it can energize the implementors in the 
way that Ed DeMOel noted must be done, as well as all the rest of the 
community whose contribution is everybit as essential. The key players are 
in Boston. JOhn Glaser was a key officer onthe MTA and has written the 
ONLY book on Stratgeic Planning for IT in Healthcare. You need to, however 
needed, get him to a key forum to speak on this subject during this Week 
in Boston. And get some of the press folks there to propagate the 
message. Death to MUMPS is Dead!. Let me know how to help.

From my less technical vantage point I sense that the root driver for
a revived MDC is the very strong need for countering the argument that
MUMPS is a dead languagethat is one of the major objections that
potential VistA adopters raise. My 2cents worth of advice is that what
we need is a strategy for adressing this kind of objectionand that
may include the existence of an MDC-like organization..and it may not.
What is needed is a clear set of strategic objectives before there is
too much spinning of tires because the perspective may be too narrow.
Joseph
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 16:02:54 -0500, Ed de Moel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
I intended to be present at the discussions in Boston, however,
a more pressing matter involves that I'll be in Odessa (Ukraine)
that week, so I had to cancel travel plans to Boston.
To all who are there: all the best and enjoy the festif\vities around
the eve of $Horolog=60,000.
Here's what this message is about:
Every now and then I get contacted with questions about the
current status of the MDC. And every now and then there is
a suggestion to revive the committee.
The current status of the committee is:
- it still exists
- the most recent meeting was in September 1999
  (during this meeting only organizational issues were discussed)
- the most recent meeting where there was a discussion
  of any techinical issues was in September 1998
- depending on the criteria to determine membership,
  current membership is any number of institutions
  (not individuals) between 6 and 23.
My personal opinion about the MDC is:
- The committee as we know it has served its purpose
  and currently has no purpose anymore.
- If a roster of work could be defined for a new organization
  that would build upon the work of the MDC, it is better
  to shut down the MDC and start a new organization with
  its own mission and its own bylaws.
- Converting the MDC into a new organization without
  violating any of the bylaws of the MDC is close to
  impossible.
Further background:
There are many models on which a Standards Developing
Organization (SDO) can be based. We are familiar with the models
of ANSI and ISO, and we are aware of the models used by IEEE, w3c
and 

RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
Ok, ok... that answer was too quick.  Syntactically, one space will
resolve the 'missing command' error but that ignores the whole meaning
of the line of code.  Is the IF a test of the result of eXecuting
DIS(SCR) and then you want to do something with the $Piece of ^TIU or
are you testing the value of that piece of ^TIU and then want to do
something based on the result?  Either way, there's something missing
from the whole line.

   tjh 

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Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:26 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search
(DIS1.m)



re:  GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73

There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.

   tjh

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  -** Notice dropout
GTMw $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTMW DIS(SCR)
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTMzwrite
%=SEARCH
A=1
C=,
D0=3
DC=,
DCC=^TIU(8925,
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO(SCR)=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)=X DIS(SCR) I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
DIS(SCR)=S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)=@
DUZ(1)=
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ(AG)=O
DUZ(AUTO)=1
DUZ(BUF)=1
DUZ(LANG)=1
DX=2
DX(0)=I DC[, X ^UTILITY($J,1)
DXS=Y
DY(1)=S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
DN=0,D0=-1
DY(2)=S DN=1 D SEARCH
I(0)=^TIU(8925,
IO=/dev/pts/2
IO(0)=/dev/pts/2
IO(1,/dev/pts/2)=
IO(ERROR)=
IO(HOME)=38^/dev/pts/2
IO(ZIO)=/dev/pts/2
IOBS=$C(8)
IOF=#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)
IOHG=
IOM=80
ION=GTM-UNIX-TELNET
IOPAR=
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST=C-VT100
IOST(0)=9
IOT=VTRM
IOUPAR=
IOX=0
IOXY=W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=
U=^
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH=SEAR
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM=P10025
XQSV=1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^
XQT=A
XQUSER=KEVIN S TOPPENBERG
XQVOL=VOL
XQXFLG=0^0^XUP
XQY=1330
XQY0=DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis
Looks like you have two spaces after the IF command. 

I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.
So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.
I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
 -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
 -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
 -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

 -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)
STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
 -** Notice dropout
GTMw $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
   X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTMW DIS(SCR)
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM

What would be causing the dropout?
Thanks, Kevin
p.s. Here is the variable table:
GTMzwrite
%=SEARCH
A=1
C=,
D0=3
DC=,
DCC=^TIU(8925,
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO(SCR)=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)=X DIS(SCR) I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
DIS(SCR)=S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)=@
DUZ(1)=
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ(AG)=O
DUZ(AUTO)=1
DUZ(BUF)=1
DUZ(LANG)=1
DX=2
DX(0)=I DC[, X ^UTILITY($J,1)
DXS=Y
DY(1)=S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
DN=0,D0=-1
DY(2)=S DN=1 D SEARCH
I(0)=^TIU(8925,
IO=/dev/pts/2
IO(0)=/dev/pts/2
IO(1,/dev/pts/2)=
IO(ERROR)=
IO(HOME)=38^/dev/pts/2
IO(ZIO)=/dev/pts/2
IOBS=$C(8)
IOF=#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)
IOHG=
IOM=80
ION=GTM-UNIX-TELNET
IOPAR=
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST=C-VT100
IOST(0)=9
IOT=VTRM
IOUPAR=
IOX=0
IOXY=W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=
U=^
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH=SEAR
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM=P10025
XQSV=1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^
XQT=A
XQUSER=KEVIN S TOPPENBERG
XQVOL=VOL
XQXFLG=0^0^XUP
XQY=1330
XQY0=DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^

I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
Kevin
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Woodhouse
An unadorned IF statement does have the effect of setting $T and is
perfectly legal. Not knowing what this code ios meant to accomplish, I
can't say whether or not that is the intended effect.


I 0

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--- Holloway, Thomas (EDS) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok, ok... that answer was too quick.  Syntactically, one space will
 resolve the 'missing command' error but that ignores the whole
 meaning
 of the line of code.  Is the IF a test of the result of eXecuting
 DIS(SCR) and then you want to do something with the $Piece of ^TIU
 or
 are you testing the value of that piece of ^TIU and then want to do
 something based on the result?  Either way, there's something missing
 from the whole line.
 
tjh 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:26 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search
 (DIS1.m)
 
 
 
 re:  GTMW DIS(0)
 X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
 
 There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.
 
tjh
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
 To: Hardhats Sourceforge
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search
 (DIS1.m)
 
 I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
 up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
 but it would be better if I could learn the source of
 the error.
 
 So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
 tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
 getting.
 
 I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
 suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
 
 
 OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
 
   -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
   -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
   -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
 kst  PHYSICIAN
 
   -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
 
 IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)
 
 STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
 
 SORT BY: NUMBER//
 START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
 FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
 THEN PRINT FIELD:
 Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
 DEVICE: home  TELNET
   -** Notice dropout
 GTMw $ECODE
 ,Z150372458,
 GTMw $ZSTATUS
 150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
 not found
 GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
 X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
 
 GTMW DIS(0)
 X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
 GTMW DIS(SCR)
 S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
 GTM
 
 What would be causing the dropout?
 
 Thanks, Kevin
 
 p.s. Here is the variable table:
 
 GTMzwrite
 %=SEARCH
 A=1
 C=,
 D0=3
 DC=,
 DCC=^TIU(8925,
 DD=1
 DE=0
 DHT=0
 DI=0
 DIJ=0
 DILCT=0
 DIO=0
 DIO(SCR)=1
 DIOSL=24
 DIPCRIT=0
 DIS(0)=X DIS(SCR) I 
 $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
 DIS(SCR)=S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
 TIUFPRIV=1
 DIS0=1
 DISEARCH=1
 DISTP=0
 DISUPNO=0
 DISYS=19
 DIWL=0
 DJ=0
 DJK=1
 DN=1
 DP=8925
 DQI=4
 DT=3050324
 DTIME=3600
 DUZ=73
 DUZ(0)=@
 DUZ(1)=
 DUZ(2)=69
 DUZ(AG)=O
 DUZ(AUTO)=1
 DUZ(BUF)=1
 DUZ(LANG)=1
 DX=2
 DX(0)=I DC[, X ^UTILITY($J,1)
 DXS=Y
 DY(1)=S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
 DN=0,D0=-1
 DY(2)=S DN=1 D SEARCH
 I(0)=^TIU(8925,
 IO=/dev/pts/2
 IO(0)=/dev/pts/2
 IO(1,/dev/pts/2)=
 IO(ERROR)=
 IO(HOME)=38^/dev/pts/2
 IO(ZIO)=/dev/pts/2
 IOBS=$C(8)
 IOF=#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)
 IOHG=
 IOM=80
 ION=GTM-UNIX-TELNET
 IOPAR=
 IOS=38
 IOSL=24
 IOST=C-VT100
 IOST(0)=9
 IOT=VTRM
 IOUPAR=
 IOX=0
 IOXY=W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)
 IOY=0
 J(0)=8925
 L=1
 P=
 U=^
 X=1
 XMDUZ=73
 XQCH=SEAR
 XQDIC=1337
 XQJMP=0
 XQPSM=P10025
 XQSV=1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
 Filename^^M^n^1^^
 XQT=A
 XQUSER=KEVIN S TOPPENBERG
 XQVOL=VOL
 XQXFLG=0^0^XUP
 XQY=1330
 XQY0=DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^
  
 I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
 be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis
Right.  I answered too soon as well..  ;-)
The question is how did the DIS(0) code get generated that way...  The 
mod George sent is in the routine that generates DIS array members, so 
we are in the right neck of the woods...  ;-)  Now, Kevin, how many 
patches are in the routine that you modified and what is the last 
number?  (See the second line of the routine.)  The one that Jim worked 
on was at 113.

Holloway, Thomas (EDS) wrote:
Ok, ok... that answer was too quick.  Syntactically, one space will
resolve the 'missing command' error but that ignores the whole meaning
of the line of code.  Is the IF a test of the result of eXecuting
DIS(SCR) and then you want to do something with the $Piece of ^TIU or
are you testing the value of that piece of ^TIU and then want to do
something based on the result?  Either way, there's something missing
from the whole line.
  tjh 

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(DIS1.m)

re:  GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
There should only be one space between the IF and the $PIECE.
  tjh
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To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)
I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source of
the error.
So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.
I wonder if someone could look at this screen log and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
 -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
 -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
 -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

 -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)
STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
 -** Notice dropout
GTMw $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected but
not found
GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
   X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTMW DIS(SCR)
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM

What would be causing the dropout?
Thanks, Kevin
p.s. Here is the variable table:
GTMzwrite
%=SEARCH
A=1
C=,
D0=3
DC=,
DCC=^TIU(8925,
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO(SCR)=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)=X DIS(SCR) I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
DIS(SCR)=S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)=@
DUZ(1)=
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ(AG)=O
DUZ(AUTO)=1
DUZ(BUF)=1
DUZ(LANG)=1
DX=2
DX(0)=I DC[, X ^UTILITY($J,1)
DXS=Y
DY(1)=S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
DN=0,D0=-1
DY(2)=S DN=1 D SEARCH
I(0)=^TIU(8925,
IO=/dev/pts/2
IO(0)=/dev/pts/2
IO(1,/dev/pts/2)=
IO(ERROR)=
IO(HOME)=38^/dev/pts/2
IO(ZIO)=/dev/pts/2
IOBS=$C(8)
IOF=#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)
IOHG=
IOM=80
ION=GTM-UNIX-TELNET
IOPAR=
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST=C-VT100
IOST(0)=9
IOT=VTRM
IOUPAR=
IOX=0
IOXY=W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=
U=^
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH=SEAR
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM=P10025
XQSV=1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^
XQT=A
XQUSER=KEVIN S TOPPENBERG
XQVOL=VOL
XQXFLG=0^0^XUP
XQY=1330
XQY0=DISEARCH^Search File Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^

I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
Kevin
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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.  

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
 came across VistA Web, which can be used by
 providers to access their patient's record from the
 Internet. 
 To get it up and running, an EMR.zip file is
 required.  Where I can get it from?
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo (sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
 It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
 running on my CPRS toolbar.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


 Usha,

 This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
 understanding is that it is not yet
 available/ready/completed.

 If you find otherwise, please post here!

 Kevin

 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
 
  While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
  came across VistA Web, which can be used by
  providers to access their patient's record from the
  Internet.
  To get it up and running, an EMR.zip file is
  required.  Where I can get it from?
 
  Usha

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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
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Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
 It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
 running on my CPRS toolbar.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


 Usha,

 This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
 understanding is that it is not yet
 available/ready/completed.

 If you find otherwise, please post here!

 Kevin

 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
 
  While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
  came across VistA Web, which can be used by
  providers to access their patient's record from the
  Internet.
  To get it up and running, an EMR.zip file is
  required.  Where I can get it from?
 
  Usha

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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
VistAWeb has been formally released.  I'll be posting the source shortly.

-Original Message-
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To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
 It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
 running on my CPRS toolbar.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


 Usha,

 This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
 understanding is that it is not yet
 available/ready/completed.

 If you find otherwise, please post here!

 Kevin

 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
 
  While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
  came across VistA Web, which can be used by
  providers to access their patient's record from the
  Internet.
  To get it up and running, an EMR.zip file is
  required.  Where I can get it from?
 
  Usha

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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you.

-Original Message-
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Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
 It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
 running on my CPRS toolbar.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


 Usha,

 This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
 understanding is that it is not yet
 available/ready/completed.

 If you find otherwise, please post here!

 Kevin

 --- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi
 
  While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
  came across VistA Web, which can be used by
  providers to access their patient's record from the
  Internet.
  To get it up and running, an EMR.zip file is
  required.  Where I can get it from?
 
  Usha

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[Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Crawford Rainwater
On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
 
 
 Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough, 
 has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours, 
 according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji 
 Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC.   (more)
 

rant

Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!

Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
avenues recently...

EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...

Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...

EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)
/rant

FWIW.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Street
Agreed, FUD pure and simple.  Does this stuff belong on the Hard Hat's list?

On Thursday 24 March 2005 10:42, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
 rant
 Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
 results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!

 Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
 avenues recently...
 EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...
 Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...
 EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)
 /rant
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis




This sounds like it might be using CCOW. Is that the case?

Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote:

  OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

"VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
  
  
It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  Hi

While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
came across VistA Web, which can be used by
providers to access their patient's record from the
Internet.
To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
required.  Where I can get it from?

Usha
  

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[Hardhats-members] Feedback on manual Vista FOIA GOLD install document.

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Street
I am going to place this in the Wiki eventually, I will add more basic command 
detail and other details later after I go back through my notes and .history 
file.  Feedback appreciated.

Manual Installation of Vista FOIA GOLD source on Linux.

1. Create a vista user
2. Edit vista users environment
3. Obtain Vista FOIA GOLD archive
4. Place Vista archive contents onto filesystem
5. Begin Configuration of Vista
--
1.  Create a vista user

useradd vista
or
adduser vista

2.  Edit vista user's environment - We have to add the paths to Vista's 
routines and gtm.  Here is an example of a .bash_profile file for the vista 
user.  It assumes you are installing Vista into the user vista's home 
directory /home/vista and your are installing gtm into /usr/local/gtm.

You can either add the portions to your vista user's existing .bash_profile or 
replace it with this example
##  BEGIN 
# .bash_profile

# Get the aliases and functions
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
. ~/.bashrc
fi

# User specific environment and startup programs

PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin

unset USERNAME

## OpenVistA specific environment ##
export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
export gtm_log=/home/vista/log

export gtmgbldir=/home/vista/g/mumps.gld
export gtm_vista=/home/vista/
export vista_home=/home/vista
export gtmroutines=$vista_home/o($vista_home/r) $gtm_dist

alias GTM=$gtm_dist/mumps -direct
alias gtm=$gtm_dist/mumps -direct
alias mupip=$gtm_dist/mupip
alias gde=$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE
alias lke=$gtm_dist/lke
alias dse=$gtm_dist/dse
alias rundown=$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r \*\

export PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
#  END 

3.  Obtain and unpack the Vista FOIA GOLD archive from sourceforge.

4.  Place Vista routines and gtm on the filesystem.

After you unarchive the Vista archive referenced above you will have two 
directories, gtm and OpenVistA.  First we need to make sure the ownership of 
all files in gtm and OpenVistA are owned by their proper users.

From the directory in which you UNarchived the files run;

chown -R root.root gtm
then change the file and dir ownership on the Vista routines to the vista 
user.
chown -R vista.vista OpenVistA

Now, move the files to their proper locations on the filesytem

mv gtm /usr/local/

Change your current working directory into the OpenVista directory and copy 
all the Vista files to the vista user's home dir /home/vista.

cd OpenVistA

mv * /home/vista/ 

5.  Begin Configuration of Vista

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[Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer

2005-03-24 Thread chuck5566
I have nothing to do with this company, other than being a customer.  I 
just thought this might interest somebody.

Check out: http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/vb6/
It's an offer for the Standard version of their Visual Basic-like 
development software.  It's free 'til the end of this month.

They have Windows and OS X versions of their software, and the free 
version is for Windows.  THE REASON I bring this to your attention is 
that the Professional version lets you compile to a Linux binary, from 
either Windows or OS X.

Just a thought.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Well, I wasn't going to post this link, but since it is similar, I changed my 
mind.
*
Linux riskier than Windows?

Companies face greater risks if they run their Web
sites on Linux rather than Windows, a Microsoft-funded
study has concluded.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5630822.html?tag=nl.e589

On Thursday 24 March 2005 01:42 pm, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
 
 
  Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough,
  has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours,
  according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS,
  Fuji Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC.   (more)

 rant

 Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
 results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!

 Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
 avenues recently...

 EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...

 Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...

 EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)
 /rant

 FWIW.

 --- Crawford

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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Gilbert, Francis S. WCO



Sorry, 
I don't know.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Greg 
  KreisSent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:13 AMTo: 
  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: Re: 
  [Hardhats-members] VistA WebThis sounds like it might be 
  using CCOW. Is that the case?Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote: 
  OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

"VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
  
It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi

While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
came across VistA Web, which can be used by
providers to access their patient's record from the
Internet.
To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
required.  Where I can get it from?

Usha
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Re: [Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
THANK YOU!  

On Thursday 24 March 2005 02:40 pm, chuck5566 wrote:
 I have nothing to do with this company, other than being a customer.  I
 just thought this might interest somebody.

 Check out: http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/vb6/

 It's an offer for the Standard version of their Visual Basic-like
 development software.  It's free 'til the end of this month.

 They have Windows and OS X versions of their software, and the free
 version is for Windows.  THE REASON I bring this to your attention is
 that the Professional version lets you compile to a Linux binary, from
 either Windows or OS X.

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RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Sowinski, Richard J.



Point 
of correction.

VistaWeb was not developed by Cairo.

The 
product was developed at Ann Arbor VA, by a single developer, who is not a 
member of the Cairo team.

He has 
worked on the product, for a long time.

Richard J Sowinski
Director of Cairo, and Chief of Application 
Development
Roudebush VAMC, Indianapolis Indiana

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  Gilbert, Francis S. WCOSent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:50 
  PMTo: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'Subject: 
  RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web
  Sorry, I don't know.
  
-Original Message-From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
Greg KreisSent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:13 
AMTo: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.netSubject: 
Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA WebThis sounds like it 
might be using CCOW. Is that the case?Gilbert, Francis S. WCO 
wrote: 
OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info
from the welcome screen:

"VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,
VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to
use the Tools Menu option again.

Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA applications.
If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients
selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message
is displayed as a patient safety measure. 

This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on
national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made
available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems
may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or complaints
are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you."

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Gilbert, Francis S. WCO
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM
To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but
VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the
office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was
mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never knows.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Nancy
Anthracite
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo
(sp?) 
folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is 
deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.

On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:
  
  It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and
running on my CPRS toolbar.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


Usha,

This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My
understanding is that it is not yet
available/ready/completed.

If you find otherwise, please post here!

Kevin

--- Usha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi

While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I
came across VistA Web, which can be used by
providers to access their patient's record from the
Internet.
To get it up and running, an "EMR.zip" file is
required.  Where I can get it from?

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Well, that seems obvious enough not that you point it
out... :-)

Now I have to see where that erroneous line comes
from... I can't find that line in DIS1.m

I'll have to wait until I'm at my office and I can use
the graphic 'find' function that comes with KDE.  I
can't ever seem to get to grep to work for me to work
as a find.

Thanks for finding that for me.

Kevin

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 re:  GTMW DIS(0)
 X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
 
 There should only be one space between the IF and
 the $PIECE.
 
tjh
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
 To: Hardhats Sourceforge
 Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging
 Fileman Search (DIS1.m)
 
 I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman
 put
 up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
 but it would be better if I could learn the source
 of
 the error.
 
 So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
 tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
 getting.
 
 I wonder if someone could look at this screen log
 and
 suggest the next step to discovering the problem:
 
 
 OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//
 
   -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
   -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
   -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
 kst  PHYSICIAN
 
   -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:
 
 IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN
 S)
 
 STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:
 
 SORT BY: NUMBER//
 START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
 FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
 THEN PRINT FIELD:
 Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
 DEVICE: home  TELNET
   -** Notice
 dropout
 GTMw $ECODE
 ,Z150372458,
 GTMw $ZSTATUS
 150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected
 but
 not found
 GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
 X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))
 
 GTMW DIS(0)
 X DIS(SCR) I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
 GTMW DIS(SCR)
 S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
 GTM
 
 What would be causing the dropout?
 
 Thanks, Kevin
 
 p.s. Here is the variable table:
 
 GTMzwrite
 %=SEARCH
 A=1
 C=,
 D0=3
 DC=,
 DCC=^TIU(8925,
 DD=1
 DE=0
 DHT=0
 DI=0
 DIJ=0
 DILCT=0
 DIO=0
 DIO(SCR)=1
 DIOSL=24
 DIPCRIT=0
 DIS(0)=X DIS(SCR) I 
 $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
 DIS(SCR)=S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
 TIUFPRIV=1
 DIS0=1
 DISEARCH=1
 DISTP=0
 DISUPNO=0
 DISYS=19
 DIWL=0
 DJ=0
 DJK=1
 DN=1
 DP=8925
 DQI=4
 DT=3050324
 DTIME=3600
 DUZ=73
 DUZ(0)=@
 DUZ(1)=
 DUZ(2)=69
 DUZ(AG)=O
 DUZ(AUTO)=1
 DUZ(BUF)=1
 DUZ(LANG)=1
 DX=2
 DX(0)=I DC[, X ^UTILITY($J,1)
 DXS=Y
 DY(1)=S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
 DN=0,D0=-1
 DY(2)=S DN=1 D SEARCH
 I(0)=^TIU(8925,
 IO=/dev/pts/2
 IO(0)=/dev/pts/2
 IO(1,/dev/pts/2)=
 IO(ERROR)=
 IO(HOME)=38^/dev/pts/2
 IO(ZIO)=/dev/pts/2
 IOBS=$C(8)
 IOF=#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)
 IOHG=
 IOM=80
 ION=GTM-UNIX-TELNET
 IOPAR=
 IOS=38
 IOSL=24
 IOST=C-VT100
 IOST(0)=9
 IOT=VTRM
 IOUPAR=
 IOX=0
 IOXY=W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)
 IOY=0
 J(0)=8925
 L=1
 P=
 U=^
 X=1
 XMDUZ=73
 XQCH=SEAR
 XQDIC=1337
 XQJMP=0
 XQPSM=P10025
 XQSV=1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
 Filename^^M^n^1^^
 XQT=A
 XQUSER=KEVIN S TOPPENBERG
 XQVOL=VOL
 XQXFLG=0^0^XUP
 XQY=1330
 XQY0=DISEARCH^Search File
 Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^
  
 I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it
 would
 be difficult to read with wordwrapping...
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman Search Issues...

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Hey all.  Couple of points

1. Here is the version info:
DIS1;SFISC/GFT-BUILD DIS-ARRAY ;09:04 AM  21 Aug
2002
;;22.0;VA FileMan;**6,77,97,113**;Mar 30, 1999

2. That error has disappeared.  And all I did, as far
as I can remember, was to take out a commented version
of the original line.  And while I would love to
figure out how that caused this bug, I'm not going to
persue it.

3. The search still doesn't seem to work.  Here is a
screen log:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE:   TELNET
TIU DOCUMENT SEARCHMAR
24,2005  15:58PAGE 1
DOCUMENT TYPE





 0 MATCHES FOUND.
 
But the method of using INTERNAL(ENTERED BY) EQUALS 73
does work.  Here is a screen log:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: INTERNAL(ENTERED
BY)
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS: 73

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// INTERNAL(ENTERED BY) EQUALS 73

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE:   TELNET
TIU DOCUMENT SEARCHMAR
24,2005  16:22PAGE 1
DOCUMENT TYPE


NUMBER: 6453
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6466
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6470
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6488
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6489
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6490
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6492
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6495
OFFICE VISIT
NUMBER: 6501
Addendum  



Someone asked for the data dictionary info, with
output transform, on the field ENTERED BY, so here it
is:



  FIELD NAME:   ENTERED BY

  FLD NUMBER:   1302FLD TITLE:
  NODE;PIECE:   13;2   HELP FRAME:

  ACCESS:   RD:DEL:WR:

   DATA TYPE:   Pointer,LAYGO to 'pointed to' file
not allowed
Has output transform

  POINTS TO:NEW PERSON file  -  ^VA(200,

  INPUT TRANSFORM:  Q

  OUTPUT TRANSFORM: S Y(0)=Y S
Y=$S(+$G(TIUINI):$$LOWER^TIULS($P($G(^VA(200,+Y(
   
0),0)),U,2)),1:$P($G(^VA(200,+Y(0),0)),U,2))

  PROMPT MESSAGE:   This is the person who entered the
document into the
computer. 

 OLD-STYLE INDEXES

  INDEX: TC
 Type: REGULAR
 Node: 1S ^TIU(8925,TC,$E(X,1,30),DA)=
 Node: 2K ^TIU(8925,TC,$E(X,1,30),DA)

 Index Desc:
This REGULAR, FileMan type
cross-reference is used for
sorting by the person who entered
the original document.
 Node: DT   2940207

  INDEX: ATC
 Type: MUMPS
 Node: 1I
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U),
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U,5) S
^TIU(8925,ATC,+X,+$P($G(^
   
TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P(^TIU(8925,+DA,0),U,5),(999-$P($
G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U)),DA)=   
Node: 2I
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U),
+$P($G(^TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U,5) K
^TIU(8925,ATC,+X,+$P($G(^
   
TIU(8925,+DA,0)),U),+$P(^TIU(8925,+DA,0),U,5),(999-$P($
G(^TIU(8925,+DA,13)),U)),DA)

 Index Desc:This MUMPS-type, multi-field
cross-reference is used for
searching by entry person,
document type, status, and date
range.
 Node: DT   2940323

  INDEX: ACLAU103
 Type: MUMPS
 Node: 1D SACLAU1^TIUDD0(1302,X)
 Node: 2D KACLAU1^TIUDD01(1302,X)

 Index Desc:This multi-field, MUMPS-type
cross-reference on CLASS,
AUTHOR (or ENTERED BY), PATIENT,
INVERSE REFERENCE
DATE/TIME, and RECORD # is
designed to facilitate rapid
access to the current users
unsigned notes about a patient. 
   Node: DT   2970617
 

Thanks for your help everyone.

Kevin



--- Greg Kreis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Right.  I answered too soon as well..  ;-)
 
 The question is how did the DIS(0) code get
 generated that way...  The 
 mod George sent is in the routine that generates DIS
 array members, so 
 we are in the right neck of the woods...  ;-)  Now,
 Kevin, how many 
 patches are in 

Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Resistance is futile.  You will be assimilated...

:-)

Kevin

--- Crawford Rainwater
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 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
  
  
  Large enterprises should not use Linux because it
 is not secure enough, 
  has scalability problems and could fork into many
 different flavours, 
  according to the Agility Alliance, which includes
 IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji 
  Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC.  
 (more)
  
 
 rant
 
 Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study
 that is finding its
 results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly
 biased!?!
 
 Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving
 towards Open Source
 avenues recently...
 
 EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...
 
 Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Feedback on manual Vista FOIA GOLD install document.

2005-03-24 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Mark,

Excellent. If you are going to be in Boston, I'd like
to work with you to ease the initial setup of Vista. 
I have a vision of making it much easier than it is
now.  I worked on a configuration scripting process
that I'd like to show you.

Kevin

--- Mark Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am going to place this in the Wiki eventually, I
 will add more basic command 
 detail and other details later after I go back
 through my notes and .history 
 file.  Feedback appreciated.
 
 Manual Installation of Vista FOIA GOLD source on
 Linux.
 
 1. Create a vista user
 2. Edit vista users environment
 3. Obtain Vista FOIA GOLD archive
 4. Place Vista archive contents onto filesystem
 5. Begin Configuration of Vista
 --
 1.  Create a vista user
 
 useradd vista
 or
 adduser vista
 
 2.  Edit vista user's environment - We have to add
 the paths to Vista's 
 routines and gtm.  Here is an example of a
 .bash_profile file for the vista 
 user.  It assumes you are installing Vista into the
 user vista's home 
 directory /home/vista and your are installing gtm
 into /usr/local/gtm.
 
 You can either add the portions to your vista user's
 existing .bash_profile or 
 replace it with this example
 ##  BEGIN 
 # .bash_profile
 
 # Get the aliases and functions
 if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
 . ~/.bashrc
 fi
 
 # User specific environment and startup programs
 
 PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin
 
 unset USERNAME
 
 ## OpenVistA specific environment ##
 export gtm_dist=/usr/local/gtm
 export gtm_log=/home/vista/log
 
 export gtmgbldir=/home/vista/g/mumps.gld
 export gtm_vista=/home/vista/
 export vista_home=/home/vista
 export gtmroutines=$vista_home/o($vista_home/r)
 $gtm_dist
 
 alias GTM=$gtm_dist/mumps -direct
 alias gtm=$gtm_dist/mumps -direct
 alias mupip=$gtm_dist/mupip
 alias gde=$gtm_dist/mumps -r ^GDE
 alias lke=$gtm_dist/lke
 alias dse=$gtm_dist/dse
 alias rundown=$gtm_dist/mupip rundown -r \*\
 
 export PATH=$PATH:$gtm_dist
 #  END 
 
 3.  Obtain and unpack the Vista FOIA GOLD archive
 from sourceforge.
 
 4.  Place Vista routines and gtm on the filesystem.
 
 After you unarchive the Vista archive referenced
 above you will have two 
 directories, gtm and OpenVistA.  First we need to
 make sure the ownership of 
 all files in gtm and OpenVistA are owned by their
 proper users.
 
 From the directory in which you UNarchived the files
 run;
 
 chown -R root.root gtm
 then change the file and dir ownership on the Vista
 routines to the vista 
 user.
 chown -R vista.vista OpenVistA
 
 Now, move the files to their proper locations on the
 filesytem
 
 mv gtm /usr/local/
 
 Change your current working directory into the
 OpenVista directory and copy 
 all the Vista files to the vista user's home dir
 /home/vista.
 
 cd OpenVistA
 
 mv * /home/vista/ 
 
 5.  Begin Configuration of Vista
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web

2005-03-24 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Do you think VistA Web the same thing as the supposed browser based 
replacement for CPRS that I was trying to find out about? That is what I was 
trying to chase down and gave up as it was apparently not ready for a FOIA 
request wherever or whatever it was.  That was about 6-9 months or so ago I 
think. 

To this single developer, hats off to you and my apologies for spreading the 
false rumor!


On Thursday 24 March 2005 04:06 pm, Sowinski, Richard J. wrote:
 Point of correction.

 VistaWeb was not developed by Cairo.

 The product was developed at Ann Arbor VA, by a single developer, who is
 not a member of the Cairo team.

 He has worked on the product, for a long time.

 Richard J Sowinski
 Director of Cairo, and Chief of Application Development
 Roudebush VAMC, Indianapolis Indiana

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gilbert,
 Francis S. WCO
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 3:50 PM
 To: 'hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net'
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


 Sorry, I don't know.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg
 Kreis Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:13 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web


 This sounds like it might be using CCOW.  Is that the case?

 Gilbert, Francis S. WCO wrote:

 OK, I should have done this before, and for that I apologize. Here's info

 from the welcome screen:



 VistAWeb is synchronized with CPRS. If you select a new patient in CPRS,

 VistAWeb will automatically select that same patient. You will not have to

 use the Tools Menu option again.



 Note: VistAWeb synchronizes patient selection with other VistA
 applications.

 If several VistA applications are in use and have different patients

 selected, this synchronization can sometimes cause confusion. This message

 is displayed as a patient safety measure.



 This is the VistAWeb national pilot study. This software is running on

 national servers in Silver Spring, MD. If all goes well, it will be made

 available to all VHA sites. We apologize in advance for whatever problems

 may arise, and ask for your patience. Any comments, criticisms or
 complaints

 are very welcome. Send them to VistaWeb Tech Support. Thank you.



 -Original Message-

 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of

 Gilbert, Francis S. WCO

 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:24 AM

 To: ' hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 mailto:hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net '

 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web





 VISN 20 (AK, WA, OR, ID). Our facility does a lot of early adoptions, but

 VistaWeb was mentioned last Friday on the national conference call from the

 office of the Undersecretary for Operations. On that call the roll-out was

 mentioned, so I wouldn't think it's been regionalized. But, one never
 knows.



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 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Nancy

 Anthracite

 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:27 AM

 To:  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 mailto:hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net

 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web





 What VISN (?) are you in?  I understand this was developed by the Cairo

 (sp?)

 folks so maybe that VISN is teh only place that has it.  If not, and it is

 deployed everywhere, we should be able to get it with a FOIA request.



 On Thursday 24 March 2005 12:07 pm, Gilbert, Francis S.   WCO wrote:



 It must be available somewhere. I'm a VA employee, and I have it up and

 running on my CPRS toolbar.



 -Original Message-

 From:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Kevin

 Toppenberg

 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:49 AM

 To:  hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 mailto:hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net

 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Web





 Usha,



 This question has been asked may times, many ways.  My

 understanding is that it is not yet

 available/ready/completed.



 If you find otherwise, please post here!



 Kevin



 --- Usha   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi



 While skimming through the VistA Clinical modules, I

 came across VistA Web, which can be used by

 providers to access their patient's record from the

 Internet.

 To get it up and running, an EMR.zip file is

 required.  Where I can get it from?



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

2005-03-24 Thread Greg Kreis




You won't find that specific line. It is born of logic, deeply buried
in the DIS routines, that builds the line on the fly and puts it in the
DIS array at run time. So a simple error in applying George's fix, or
possibly having a starting point different than the one George
modified, could be the culprit and would be very tricky to spot.

You are in one of the most abstract parts of the FM forest -- did you
see the Cheshire cat? ;-) Thankfully you aren't in the scariest
area... few have come out of the DICOMP* bogs alive. ;-)

Kevin Toppenberg wrote:

  Well, that seems obvious enough not that you point it
out... :-)

Now I have to see where that erroneous line comes
from... I can't find that line in DIS1.m

I'll have to wait until I'm at my office and I can use
the graphic 'find' function that comes with KDE.  I
can't ever seem to get to grep to work for me to work
as a find.

Thanks for finding that for me.

Kevin

--- "Holloway, Thomas (EDS)"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  

re:  GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73

There should only be one space between the IF and
the $PIECE.

   tjh

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


  
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  
  
On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:20 AM
To: Hardhats Sourceforge
Subject: [Hardhats-members] Need help debugging
Fileman Search (DIS1.m)

I have tried to puttng the code patch for Fileman
put
up by George Timson.  I could just use a fresh copy,
but it would be better if I could learn the source
of
the error.

So I have done some studying of GT.M's debugging
tools, and I have applied them to the drop-out I am
getting.

I wonder if someone could look at this screen log
and
suggest the next step to discovering the problem:


OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: TIU DOCUMENT//

  -A- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD: enterED BY
  -A- CONDITION: =  EQUALS
  -A- EQUALS NEW PERSON: kst  TOPPENBERG,KEVIN S
kst  PHYSICIAN

  -B- SEARCH FOR TIU DOCUMENT FIELD:

IF: A// ENTERED BY EQUALS 73 (TOPPENBERG,KEVIN
S)

STORE RESULTS OF SEARCH IN TEMPLATE:

SORT BY: NUMBER//
START WITH NUMBER: FIRST//
FIRST PRINT FIELD: .01  DOCUMENT TYPE
THEN PRINT FIELD:
Heading (S/C): TIU DOCUMENT SEARCH//
DEVICE: home  TELNET
  -** Notice
dropout
GTMw $ECODE
,Z150372458,
GTMw $ZSTATUS
150372458,SCR+1^DIO2,%GTM-E-CMD, Command expected
but
not found
GTMZPRINT SCR+1^DIO2
X DIS(0) Q:'$T  G PASS:'$D(DIS(1))

GTMW DIS(0)
X DIS("SCR") I  $P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73
GTMW DIS("SCR")
S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S TIUFPRIV=1
GTM

What would be causing the dropout?

Thanks, Kevin

p.s. Here is the variable table:

GTMzwrite
%="SEARCH"
A=1
C=","
D0=3
DC=","
DCC="^TIU(8925,"
DD=1
DE=0
DHT=0
DI=0
DIJ=0
DILCT=0
DIO=0
DIO("SCR")=1
DIOSL=24
DIPCRIT=0
DIS(0)="X DIS(""SCR"") I 
$P($G(^TIU(8925,D0,13)),U,2)=73"
DIS("SCR")="S Y=D0 I $D(^TIU(8925,Y,0)) I 1 S
TIUFPRIV=1"
DIS0=1
DISEARCH=1
DISTP=0
DISUPNO=0
DISYS=19
DIWL=0
DJ=0
DJK=1
DN=1
DP=8925
DQI=4
DT=3050324
DTIME=3600
DUZ=73
DUZ(0)="@"
DUZ(1)=""
DUZ(2)=69
DUZ("AG")="O"
DUZ("AUTO")=1
DUZ("BUF")=1
DUZ("LANG")=1
DX=2
DX(0)="I DC["","" X ^UTILITY($J,1)"
DXS="Y"
DY(1)="S D0=$O(^TIU(8925,D0)),DN=2,DI=0 I D0'0 S
DN=0,D0=-1"
DY(2)="S DN=1 D SEARCH"
I(0)="^TIU(8925,"
IO="/dev/pts/2"
IO(0)="/dev/pts/2"
IO(1,"/dev/pts/2")=""
IO("ERROR")=""
IO("HOME")="38^/dev/pts/2"
IO("ZIO")="/dev/pts/2"
IOBS="$C(8)"
IOF="#,$C(27,91,50,74,27,91,72)"
IOHG=""
IOM=80
ION="GTM-UNIX-TELNET"
IOPAR=""
IOS=38
IOSL=24
IOST="C-VT100"
IOST(0)=9
IOT="VTRM"
IOUPAR=""
IOX=0
IOXY="W $C(27,91)_((DY+1))_$C(59)_((DX+1))_$C(72)"
IOY=0
J(0)=8925
L=1
P=""
U="^"
X=1
XMDUZ=73
XQCH="SEAR"
XQDIC=1337
XQJMP=0
XQPSM="P10025"
XQSV="1337^10025^DIUSER^FM VA
Filename^^M^n^1^^"
XQT="A"
XQUSER="KEVIN S TOPPENBERG"
XQVOL="VOL"
XQXFLG="0^0^XUP"
XQY=1330
XQY0="DISEARCH^Search File
Entries^^A^^^y^^n^1^^"
 
I'll post my version of DIS1.m if needed, but it
would
be difficult to read with wordwrapping...

Kevin


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Fileman Search Issues...

2005-03-24 Thread Jim Self
Kevin wrote:
 Did you see my note where I gave you a link to a
 version of ^DIS1 where I inserted
 George's fix? I tested it and the search did appear
 to work correctly for me.

Yes I did see your link.  And my code looks just like
yours now.  Here it the line:

GTMzprint OUTX^DIS1
OUTX.I $D(^(2)),$P(^(0),U,2)'[D,DV'[= S
M=0,Y=S Y=_Y_ _$$OVFL(^(2))_ I
 _$$XFORM(Y) Q


Since the vagaries of email make it difficult to read or trust MUMPS source 
code that you
see embedded in it, it might be helpful to do a diff to compare different 
versions of the
routine, specifically, yours, mine, and the original.

You could use diff to prove that two versions are identical or to see how they 
are
different. For instance, if you were to rename one of them to DIS1x.m, then try
diff DIS1.m DIS1x.m

GTM

And, with this code in place, I am still getting the
results posted on my last email.

Did you have problems before putting in the fix?

Yes. The SemiVivA 0.4 database has one TIU document in it with ENTERED_BY = 
nvd. I
conducted a search on that before the fix where it didn't work and after the 
fix where it
did. I had similar results with a database from the 2.51 OpenVistA distribution.

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...

2005-03-24 Thread Roy Gaber
Sorry for the delay, just now getting to my mail.  The 3 is the century
indicator.  XAK was a visionary. 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
Toppenberg
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:28 AM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...

Oh, I read that the output is Y=YYYMMDD.HHMMSS, and
then that 3 in the result threw me off.  What does
that mean?

Thanks
Kevin



--- Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes it does.  Simple set X equal to the external
 date and call %DT the
 internal value will be returned in Y.  Like this;
 
 S X=10/1/05 D ^%DT
 ZW  
 %DT=
 X=10/1/05
 Y=3051001
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:25 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time
 functions...
 
 Oops, ^%DT does not do external to internal
 conversion.
 
 So how do I do that??
 
 Thanks
 Kevin
 
 --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Why are two of the date/time functions in Fileman,
  and
  the rest in Kernel?  And why is Kernel missing
  external-to-internal conversion?
  
  Fileman
  ---
  ^%DT  -- external to internal conversion
  DD^%DT -- Internal to external conversion
  
  Kernel
  --
  $$FMTE^XLFDT -- Internal to external conversion
  (and most other needed functions except
  external-to-internal conversion)
  
  Thanks
  Kevin
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[Hardhats-members] Taskman problems

2005-03-24 Thread Thurman Pedigo
It appears I am having problems with Taskman and box volume pair. Anyone
know what I am missing or what else I should check, given the data below?

Thanks,

Thurman


D ^ZTMB

D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y
VISTA^VISTA^W2K3^VISTA:CACHEMAW

Checking Taskman.   Current $H=59983,71375  (Mar 24, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:49:35)
  RUN NODE=VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman
site
parameters.  (VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman site parameters.)
Taskman is late by 5182602560 seconds. not running..
Checking the Status List:
  Node  weight  status  time   $J
 The Status List is empty.

Checking the Schedule List:
 Taskman has 134 tasks scheduled.
 All of them are overdue.  First task is 24513941 seconds late.

Checking the IO Lists:
 There are no tasks waiting for devices.

Checking the Job List:
 There are no tasks waiting for partitions.
 For VISTA:NTA there are 0 tasks.
 For VISTA:NTB there are 0 tasks.

Checking the Task List:
  There are no tasks currently running.
 On node VISTA:CACHEMAW there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status: Run



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Re: [Hardhats-members] REALbasic Offer - More

2005-03-24 Thread chuck5566
On Mar 24, 2005, at 4:00 PM, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:


I haven't seen yet how to make a linux app, but its a
cool this tool.
I'm afraid you have to pay for the Professional version for that 
feature.  I just thought the (free) Standard version was an excellent 
way to find out if it's worth it to anyone, plus I don't think it 
expires.  I like that you can use the exact same codebase to compile to 
Windows, OS X, AND Linux.

I don't mean to sound like an ad - I'm just looking to make life 
easier.  I like that I can write apps for Linux from my Mac.

I came across something else today: http://gambas.sourceforge.net - a 
visual basic IDE to run on Linux.  It's open source, but not as 
polished.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...

2005-03-24 Thread Richard G. DAVIS
Roy, do you mean to acknowledge George Timson?  XAK assumed responsibility
for FileMan after George, the principal developer of FileMan, departed from
the DVA.

Regards,

Richard.

 From: Roy Gaber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 20:24:11 -0500
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...
 
 Sorry for the delay, just now getting to my mail.  The 3 is the century
 indicator.  XAK was a visionary.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin
 Toppenberg
 Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 8:28 AM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Date/Time functions...
 
 Oh, I read that the output is Y=YYYMMDD.HHMMSS, and
 then that 3 in the result threw me off.  What does
 that mean?
 
 Thanks
 Kevin
...

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Taskman problems

2005-03-24 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Nancy, That fixed it!

Thanks,

thurman

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 8:35 PM
 To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Taskman problems
 
 I think I know what your problem is.  Your parameter in the Taskman site
 parameters file for Mode of Taskman should be general.  See if that
 fixes
 it.
 
 On Thursday 24 March 2005 09:05 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote:
  It appears I am having problems with Taskman and box volume pair. Anyone
  know what I am missing or what else I should check, given the data
 below?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Thurman
 
 
  D ^ZTMB
 
  D GETENV^%ZOSV W Y
  VISTA^VISTA^W2K3^VISTA:CACHEMAW
 
  Checking Taskman.   Current $H=59983,71375  (Mar 24, [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]:49:35)
RUN NODE=VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in
 taskman
  site
  parameters.  (VISTA:CACHEMAW is the wrong type in taskman site
 parameters.)
  Taskman is late by 5182602560 seconds. not running..
  Checking the Status List:
Node  weight  status  time   $J
   The Status List is empty.
 
  Checking the Schedule List:
   Taskman has 134 tasks scheduled.
   All of them are overdue.  First task is 24513941 seconds late.
 
  Checking the IO Lists:
   There are no tasks waiting for devices.
 
  Checking the Job List:
   There are no tasks waiting for partitions.
   For VISTA:NTA there are 0 tasks.
   For VISTA:NTB there are 0 tasks.
 
  Checking the Task List:
There are no tasks currently running.
   On node VISTA:CACHEMAW there are no free Sub-Manager(s). Status:
 Run
 
 
 
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Bhaskar, KS
At least someone at EDS would appear to believe to the contrary?  See 
http://www.eds.com/services/casestudies/eds_instant.aspx

-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Nancy Anthracite
Sent:   Thu 3/24/2005 3:59 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, 
unscalable
Well, I wasn't going to post this link, but since it is similar, I changed my 
mind.
*
Linux riskier than Windows?

Companies face greater risks if they run their Web
sites on Linux rather than Windows, a Microsoft-funded
study has concluded.
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5630822.html?tag=nl.e589

On Thursday 24 March 2005 01:42 pm, Crawford Rainwater wrote:
 On Thu, 2005-03-24 at 10:24 -0800,

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm
 
 
  Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough,
  has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours,
  according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS,
  Fuji Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC.   (more)

 rant

 Hmmm, consider that Microsoft is involved in a study that is finding its
 results against Linux...can we say perhaps slightly biased!?!

 Throw in Sun with Solaris, though they are moving towards Open Source
 avenues recently...

 EMC is oriented to UNIX and M$ based...

 Dell...well, they only resell with M$ on board...

 EDS as consultants...oops, that is a contradiction I think. ;-)
 /rant

 FWIW.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] (NEWS)EDS: Linux is insecure, unscalable

2005-03-24 Thread Mark Street
Oooops  Open mouth, insert foot.
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39185839,00.htm

EDS: Linux 'strategically important'
24 March 2005

Outsourcing specialist EDS said it was proactively engineering Linux into 
its product portfolio, backtracking on previous statements that the 
open-source software was insecure and unscalable.

Resistance is futile

On Thursday 17 March 2005 09:40, Dan wrote:
 http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,261733,39184795,00.htm

 Large enterprises should not use Linux because it is not secure enough,
 has scalability problems and could fork into many different flavours,
 according to the Agility Alliance, which includes IT heavyweights EDS, Fuji
 Xerox, Cisco, Microsoft, Sun, Dell and EMC.   (more)

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