Re: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues.....
Maury's point makes me wonder whether anyone has tried to use rdesktop to run CPRS: http://www.rdesktop.org/ rdesktop is an open source client for Windows NT Terminal Server and Windows 2000/2003 Terminal Services, capable of natively speaking Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) in order to present the user's NT desktop. Unlike Citrix ICA, no server extensions are required. rdesktop currently runs on most UNIX based platforms with the X Window System, and other ports should be fairly straightforward. Maury Pepper wrote: Kevin, Perhaps you already got it, but it appears you may have missed an important point buried in Thurman's message -- that he is using remote desktop. Running CPRS remotely vs. running it local to the server and then remotely accessing CPRS via remote desktop are two very different things when it comes to network performance. I like VNC or Real-VNC. There's also Tight-VNC, Microsoft's Remote Desktop, and various things that do terminal services such as Citrix. In general, a lot less info has to travel across the long-line, in part because the bulky data stays local, and in part because the screen info is compressed and only that which changes is transmitted. - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues. Mark, I wish I were more knowledgable about this than I am. Let me tell you what I do know. Currently, our only high-speed connection option is Sprint DSL. We could purchase a T1 or partial T1 from sprint, but my understanding is that it's something like $300-$500/month. When we decided to get the DSL line, we found Sprint to be very customer UNFRIENDLY. It took us several weeks of leaving nagging messages just to get a *sales* person to call us and sell us the service. Our support has gone down from there. When I talked to them initially, they quoted me (as I recall) three categories of business-grade DSL lines. We went with the middle category I believe. The upload and download speeds were different. I seem to remember the download speed to be something like 1.5 Mbps and the upload 800 kbsp. I could be way off on these numbers. We are using a Netgear VPN FV318 (http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FV318.php). I too have wondered about the overhead of the VPN. There are various levels of encryption one can choose. Being concerned about security of patient records, I didn't choose the lowest level. I may, after hours, check a bandwidth meter behind the VPN, then take out the VPN and check again. This might give me a overhead assesment. I'm not sure if connection to and from the internet (i.e. not connections to another computer behind the VPN on the other side of town) utilize the encryption overhead. I wouldn't think so. I found one way of measuring bandwidth (download at least) at C-NET (http://reviews.cnet.com/Bandwidth_meter/7004-7254_7-0.html). On a Saturday night (~10pm) I ran this meter from my home (cable modem) running only one internet application (a VNC connection to my office), and found my speed to be 1,700 Kbps. At the same time, I ran the connection from my office (connecting there via that same VNC connection), and I got 287 Kbps! There should have been no one else in my office, or in the building, using bandwidth. I just repeated it (Sunday morning) and got 299 Kbps (download). Still miserable in my opinion. We are in the process of trying to get cable modem. But the company is dragging its feet about pulling a line to our building. Anyway. Thanks for listening. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members . --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues.....
You should really look at getting SDSL service, especially if this is a business application. At 10:17 AM 5/9/2005, Kevin wrote: My upload speed (with our billing system running) is 134 kbps. I think the problem is becoming clearer... --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Photos from the Boston Meeting
I don't see any names, just the file names. --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following Bhaskar's lead ... Photos from the VistA Community Meeting, April 7-10, 2005. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mlpcmsstlcom/album?.dir=/3c88.src=ph.tok=phOJZ9CBtSSMOb4p --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] VA Aims To Build Congress' Faith In Tech Upgrade
Cameron: Your assessment is encouraging. But it means that the non-VA is going to have to develop an open weeldescribed posture of how it will apply Zachman's principles to the adaptation of VistA to the transforminh elathcare environment. The recent book by Demetriades, Kolodner and an Chrisdtopherson Eds on Person-Centered Health Records: Towards HeaslthePeople clearly identifies the need internationally to have a common conceptual information model that will be the basis for evaluating the current VistA architecture and planning the evolution of new configurations that are consistent and interoperable with other implementations of the common model. I would urge that Cameron and other who may be in Salt lake City this week attend the ASTM E-31 standards meetings held in conjunction with the TEPR meeting. The standards from E-31 deal with the conceptual content that will become part of the broad common model (the effort to document such a model began 10 years ago but became infected with a virus that prevented common dialog) where discussions will take place about the collaborative efforts that the Secty HHS (a former Utah Governor) strongly advocates. If the hardhats master the implications of these standards, they can actively develop a a Zachman Framework that can complement that of the VA and perhaps even help it along but working actively with the various professional disciplines. Work with those disciplines can yield common targets for the various industrial suppliers of healthcare enterprise information architecture components that will produce the capabilities that are alluded to in this book. Hardhats should take Richard Davis' paper and develop an updated version applicable to the needs of the VistA Adaptation situation and develop a general Enterprise Architecture Planning template for the VistA Adaptation Process leading to Enterprise View, Life Cycle Principles reflected in the CMU-SEI Report on the VA and then educate the VSA members how to make best use of it with potential Acquirers. This approach will have international appeal and be applicable to both Canada and Australia (noted in the book) where potential information enginering professionals are already active with their healthcare communities. Here in the US the VistA Community is in a position to have a similar relationship with the engineering community if it outwardly works with the CMU-SEI on the principles it advocates for the VA. There is lots of work to do with respect to this direction but the VistA Community has bioth the talent and the key attitudinal mindset to rise to the challenge while others Wait for Godot. Thanks Cameron for the insight and, while working on this challenge, we await further insights that will contribute to achiving the VIsion. On Fri, 6 May 2005, Cameron Schlehuber wrote: I believe management and the VHA architects understand the Zachman Framework quite well. And while it may not be used 100%, I sincerely doubt there is any kind of willful ignorance of the broad picture. If VistA were an ecosystem it would be like Yellowstone when the wolves were removed some 70 years ago ... the culture of VistA can sometimes seem dangerous and will sometimes eat your favorite offspring (or code, rotten as it was ;). But that culture (and to a large extent the M technology that supports it so well) like the wolves of Yellowstone is crucial to the overall ecological balance. The folks who removed the wolves were by and large well meaning (it's what the surrounding culture demanded, people and property were paramount). We know better today ... and wolves are back keeping grazing animals in check, and trees and shrubs and all the flora and fauna that depend on protective cover are now beginning to thrive again. Half a dozen years ago Gartner declared that MUMPS was a dying technology. Today Gartner (different people though) recognize M as a thriving market able to work with new technologies with the best of them. A hard thing for any leader to do is admit that earlier direction they may have given wasn't entirely accurate. And even harder is to stick to one's principles when everyone around you is telling you to abandon those principles because the direction has to change due to facts. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Forrey Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:43 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] VA Aims To Build Congress' Faith In Tech Upgrade Cameron: How do you think the New Management reacts to the use of the Zachman principles (otherwise known as Eanterprise Architecture Planning) that Principi mandated before he left. How can such wilful ignorance of the broad picture endure if the management is to respond to the CMU-SEI criticisms? Reasonable mastery of EAP would understand the state of the Technical Infrastructure unless willful ignorance prevails as it did during the
RE: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues.....
I believe the VA expects to interface with billing systems and not develop such systems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thurman Pedigo Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:45 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues. I am curious regarding plans for integrating billing into VistA? Any plans in that direction. Or is the plan to continue a split system? ...tx/t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 8:17 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues. My upload speed (with our billing system running) is 134 kbps. I think the problem is becoming clearer... Kevin --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Nancy. Nice site, I had forgotten it. My speed 1084K - for what its wortht/xt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 9:35 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues. There area some sites that allow you to test your upload speed with you DSL line. This is the one that I used to test mine. Why not check out yours. http://performance.toast.net/ Then test you speed on the VA online demo. If you DSL is typical, upload will be about 1/6 the speed of download. If the VADemo moves quicker than that, then maybe there is hope that there is some sort of configuration parameter you can change to improve things. On Saturday 07 May 2005 11:09 pm, Thurman Pedigo wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 8:08 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues. --- Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There was a time I ran POTS and 56k modem with excellent performance. tlp This was 1991 FileMan Telnet connection - not CPRS Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Hmmm... I am having a hard time figuring out all this bandwidth stuff. We are also running a billing software package which could be eating up all the bandwidth. Someone suggested that I set up some bandwidth monitoring. This is really what I need to do. But I'm not quite sure how to do it. Currently our confuration is like this: DSL modem--VPN firewall/router--PC's tlp My experience is software VPN chews up a LOT of bandwidth - I think hardware VPN as with a firewall may a lot faster. Hopefully, I will know soon. I think that to run sophisticated monitoring, I would need to insert a linux box with two network cards between the DSL modem and the VPN firewall. Or maybe just tracert if you haven't already- be sure you know the timing, and where the signal is going. Hopefully, VPN does control that. But if you were able to run one copy of CPRS on a 56k line, that's pretty good. But were you running CPRS from home (which I doubt because of that pesky no-CPRS-through-a-NAT/router-problem), or were you running something like PC Anywhere remote desktop software? tlp Microsoft Remote Desktop. Every client, office or remote location connects via remote desktop. See below for server connection notes. The bandwidth requirements for these two programs might be quite different. tlp We have a nailed down T1 (1.55mbps) office to home. I little more expensive, though totally secure, therefore home is behind the office firewall. I do have a router with a CSU/DSU on each end (other configurations available). It costs a few more bucks. However, it is the most trouble free point-to-point connection going. No need for added firewall, VPN, or other security overhead. Nor does it care what software you use. I think I recall you have something over 40,000 patients in your database. What is not clear to me is whether you have the same problem with only a few patients, or did you bring the remote site up after the database was fully populated? I don't have my db fully populated, though I see nothing to suggest it will be appreciably slower. Certainly, the CPRS page refreshes at a very nice rate. We connect to the server via remote desktop, so VISTA/CPRS thinks everyone it talks to resides on the server. I also wonder if that 1.55mbps would be a lot
Re: [Hardhats-members] Photos from the Boston Meeting
Putting up pictures turns out to be reasonably easy, so I did. Since I didn't know the names of several of the first-timers, I decided better to leave off all than to appear thoughtless. - Original Message - From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Photos from the Boston Meeting I don't see any names, just the file names. --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following Bhaskar's lead ... Photos from the VistA Community Meeting, April 7-10, 2005. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mlpcmsstlcom/album?.dir=/3c88.src=ph.tok=phOJZ9CBtSSMOb4p --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Photos from the Boston Meeting
Okay...I just wondered if you had intended for the names to be displayed and for some reason they weren't. I know a lot of the faces in there, but certainly not all of them. --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Putting up pictures turns out to be reasonably easy, so I did. Since I didn't know the names of several of the first-timers, I decided better to leave off all than to appear thoughtless. - Original Message - From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Photos from the Boston Meeting I don't see any names, just the file names. --- Maury Pepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Following Bhaskar's lead ... Photos from the VistA Community Meeting, April 7-10, 2005. http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mlpcmsstlcom/album?.dir=/3c88.src=ph.tok=phOJZ9CBtSSMOb4p --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues.....
The MS Remote Desktop (MSRD)is a freebie - however the terminal services manager is not without cost. VNC, Radmin, rdesktop, and others do a passable job. We have experience with Radmin/VNC performance and settled on the MSRD because of several unique features. The key feature is - the calls originate from the server. Or said another way - (almost) ALL CPRS clients reside on the server...tx/t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Dal Molin Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 8:50 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues. Maury's point makes me wonder whether anyone has tried to use rdesktop to run CPRS: http://www.rdesktop.org/ rdesktop is an open source client for Windows NT Terminal Server and Windows 2000/2003 Terminal Services, capable of natively speaking Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) in order to present the user's NT desktop. Unlike Citrix ICA, no server extensions are required. rdesktop currently runs on most UNIX based platforms with the X Window System, and other ports should be fairly straightforward. Maury Pepper wrote: Kevin, Perhaps you already got it, but it appears you may have missed an important point buried in Thurman's message -- that he is using remote desktop. Running CPRS remotely vs. running it local to the server and then remotely accessing CPRS via remote desktop are two very different things when it comes to network performance. I like VNC or Real-VNC. There's also Tight-VNC, Microsoft's Remote Desktop, and various things that do terminal services such as Citrix. In general, a lot less info has to travel across the long-line, in part because the bulky data stays local, and in part because the screen info is compressed and only that which changes is transmitted. - Original Message - From: Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:42 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] I've got the slow CPRS blues. Mark, I wish I were more knowledgable about this than I am. Let me tell you what I do know. Currently, our only high-speed connection option is Sprint DSL. We could purchase a T1 or partial T1 from sprint, but my understanding is that it's something like $300-$500/month. When we decided to get the DSL line, we found Sprint to be very customer UNFRIENDLY. It took us several weeks of leaving nagging messages just to get a *sales* person to call us and sell us the service. Our support has gone down from there. When I talked to them initially, they quoted me (as I recall) three categories of business-grade DSL lines. We went with the middle category I believe. The upload and download speeds were different. I seem to remember the download speed to be something like 1.5 Mbps and the upload 800 kbsp. I could be way off on these numbers. We are using a Netgear VPN FV318 (http://www.netgear.com/products/details/FV318.php). I too have wondered about the overhead of the VPN. There are various levels of encryption one can choose. Being concerned about security of patient records, I didn't choose the lowest level. I may, after hours, check a bandwidth meter behind the VPN, then take out the VPN and check again. This might give me a overhead assesment. I'm not sure if connection to and from the internet (i.e. not connections to another computer behind the VPN on the other side of town) utilize the encryption overhead. I wouldn't think so. I found one way of measuring bandwidth (download at least) at C-NET (http://reviews.cnet.com/Bandwidth_meter/7004-7254_7-0.html). On a Saturday night (~10pm) I ran this meter from my home (cable modem) running only one internet application (a VNC connection to my office), and found my speed to be 1,700 Kbps. At the same time, I ran the connection from my office (connecting there via that same VNC connection), and I got 287 Kbps! There should have been no one else in my office, or in the building, using bandwidth. I just repeated it (Sunday morning) and got 299 Kbps (download). Still miserable in my opinion. We are in the process of trying to get cable modem. But the company is dragging its feet about pulling a line to our building. Anyway. Thanks for listening. Kevin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members .
[Hardhats-members] need information
Hi everyone, Is there a way to develop a GUI in VC#and connect it to the M database?If there is one,please let me know how to do it. thanks, sai Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone.
Re: [Hardhats-members] need information
I believe that newer versions of the Broker include a DLL that could be used. --- semhc semhc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Is there a way to develop a GUI in VC# and connect it to the M database?If there is one,please let me know how to do it. thanks, sai A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Photos of $H 60000 event in Boston
That's part of what I was hoping to do before making the photos available. However, considering my copious spare time, I was concerned that if I waited for that moment, the photos might not see the light of day until way past when they might be of interest... I'll gladly work with any volunteers who want to help put names to the faces. -- Bhaskar Nancy Anthracite wrote: Now to put names to all of these faces! On Sunday 08 May 2005 10:49 pm, Bhaskar, KS wrote: Better late than never - http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jkbhaskar/album?.dir=/fd47.src=ph.tok=phZSN 9CB.Lq6FOhJ Alternatively, go to http://photos.yahoo.com/jkbhaskar and click on 20050409 ... -- Bhaskar --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Photos of $H 60000 event in Boston
This might be a perfect job for the Wiki and it would get you out of the middle, considering your copious spare time! On Monday 09 May 2005 05:06 pm, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: That's part of what I was hoping to do before making the photos available. However, considering my copious spare time, I was concerned that if I waited for that moment, the photos might not see the light of day until way past when they might be of interest... I'll gladly work with any volunteers who want to help put names to the faces. -- Bhaskar Nancy Anthracite wrote: Now to put names to all of these faces! On Sunday 08 May 2005 10:49 pm, Bhaskar, KS wrote: Better late than never - http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/jkbhaskar/album?.dir=/fd47.src=ph.tok=phZ SN 9CB.Lq6FOhJ Alternatively, go to http://photos.yahoo.com/jkbhaskar and click on 20050409 ... -- Bhaskar --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] need information
I agree. The RPC broker is the key to communication with the M server. And I think that it has been developed into a COM object (i.e. the dll file) that should be amendible to connecting via many languages. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that newer versions of the Broker include a DLL that could be used. --- semhc semhc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Is there a way to develop a GUI in VC# and connect it to the M database?If there is one,please let me know how to do it. thanks, sai A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] need information
Let me further clarify that this will allow for remote procedure calls (RPC) on the server. One would then need to write the actual procedures on the server (in M) to get the data that you want in the format that you want. This data would then be passed out to your VC# application. The creating of the M server functions are not particularly difficult, but would involve learning M. If you are wanting to connect to the database in a generic way from VC# via SQL database access functions, then you might want an SQL interface. There is a commercial product available for GT.M for this. Cache' has some such functionality built in. Kevin --- Kevin Toppenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree. The RPC broker is the key to communication with the M server. And I think that it has been developed into a COM object (i.e. the dll file) that should be amendible to connecting via many languages. Kevin --- Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe that newer versions of the Broker include a DLL that could be used. --- semhc semhc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, Is there a way to develop a GUI in VC# and connect it to the M database?If there is one,please let me know how to do it. thanks, sai A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VA Aims To Build Congress' Faith In Tech Upgrade
Part of the problem is our cultural predisposition to equate old with obsolete, inadequate, and useless. When were the standards established for screws? Yet, in this 21st century, I still count on going to the hardware store and being able to purchase a screw that fits by looking at a bin labelled with the number of the thread standard. The problem with VistA is not its age per se. It is a culture that doesn't plan for a process of refreshing and renewal. The question to ask for VistA (or any other major enterprise wide application) should not be, How long can we live with it and when will it be obsolete? Rather it is, How do we keep VistA viable for the next hundred years? The VistA of a hundred years from now is guaranteed to look nothing like the VistA of today, but there will have been a continuum of availability and useful service. Rome to us doesn't doesn't look anything like the way it looked to Julius Caesar, but there has been a Rome in continuous existence for over 2,000 years because no city planner said, The city will be obsolete in ten years, and we'll just raze it and replace it with a new city that has the latest [[insert hot buzzphrase]] in urban planning. -- Bhaskar --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VA Aims To Build Congress' Faith In Tech Upgrade
Of course, that raises a more basic question. What *is* VistA? If you take the point of view that whatever sort of thing it is, it should remain viable for 100 years or more, then most likely, you don't anticipate much of what constitutes VistA being left (at least of the actual codebase). I think the presupposition of the first option is that VistA is the stuff that makes it up (i.e., actual lines of code, files, etc.) and it seems entirely reasonable to think that THAT will eventually become obsolete. I've tried in the past to make the argument that the value of VistA resides not in the actual lines of code of which it consists, but in the body of knowledge and insight that went into creating it. But I have found that this is line of thinking that is usually rejected out of hand -- petrhaps because the community seems to have such an interest in preserving the existing code and functionality without looking forward at how what we've learned in building VistA can be put to use. --- K.S. Bhaskar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part of the problem is our cultural predisposition to equate old with obsolete, inadequate, and useless. When were the standards established for screws? Yet, in this 21st century, I still count on going to the hardware store and being able to purchase a screw that fits by looking at a bin labelled with the number of the thread standard. The problem with VistA is not its age per se. It is a culture that doesn't plan for a process of refreshing and renewal. The question to ask for VistA (or any other major enterprise wide application) should not be, How long can we live with it and when will it be obsolete? Rather it is, How do we keep VistA viable for the next hundred years? The VistA of a hundred years from now is guaranteed to look nothing like the VistA of today, but there will have been a continuum of availability and useful service. Rome to us doesn't doesn't look anything like the way it looked to Julius Caesar, but there has been a Rome in continuous existence for over 2,000 years because no city planner said, The city will be obsolete in ten years, and we'll just raze it and replace it with a new city that has the latest [[insert hot buzzphrase]] in urban planning. -- Bhaskar --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] VA Aims To Build Congress' Faith In Tech Upgrade
That is the importance of belonging to the voluntary consensus standards process I. E the ANSI accredited MDC. If the MDC is inclusive and open and it meets once year to say that the M standards address all issues that enable M to remain current and participate in the market then the gurus have nothing further that they can say - common knowledge has said it all. We have got work to do to get back to where we were in 1999 let alone where we should be in 2006. Concurrently, while we get the common conventions for the technical platform in shape we should be striving to be in full mastery of the healthcare conceptual content in making sure all M/WV partiipcants understand what standards are relevant to VistA and to its evolution. We have to understand where VistA has been and where it needs to go -a Bhaskar clealry points out. That means we need to expand our community involvement. On Mon, 9 May 2005, K.S. Bhaskar wrote: Part of the problem is our cultural predisposition to equate old with obsolete, inadequate, and useless. When were the standards established for screws? Yet, in this 21st century, I still count on going to the hardware store and being able to purchase a screw that fits by looking at a bin labelled with the number of the thread standard. The problem with VistA is not its age per se. It is a culture that doesn't plan for a process of refreshing and renewal. The question to ask for VistA (or any other major enterprise wide application) should not be, How long can we live with it and when will it be obsolete? Rather it is, How do we keep VistA viable for the next hundred years? The VistA of a hundred years from now is guaranteed to look nothing like the VistA of today, but there will have been a continuum of availability and useful service. Rome to us doesn't doesn't look anything like the way it looked to Julius Caesar, but there has been a Rome in continuous existence for over 2,000 years because no city planner said, The city will be obsolete in ten years, and we'll just raze it and replace it with a new city that has the latest [[insert hot buzzphrase]] in urban planning. -- Bhaskar --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: NEC IT Guy Games. Get your fingers limbered up and give it your best shot. 4 great events, 4 opportunities to win big! Highest score wins.NEC IT Guy Games. Play to win an NEC 61 plasma display. Visit http://www.necitguy.com/?r=20 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
