from:"Bhaskar, KS"

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 09:02 -0500, Alan O'Neill wrote:
> Hi Bhaskar,
> 
> Yep, I agree that the package management under Linux (in particular
> with Debian and Debian-like) is excellent.  I was thinking more about
> installing something like a flash player or "John Doe's Software"
> where a .deb or .rpm file is not available.  It takes me back to the
> days of DOS, which I liked but often found frustrating because of
> large differences in the installation procedure from package to
> package.

[KSB] There is a Debian package for flash!

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache show flashplayer-mozilla
Package: flashplayer-mozilla
Priority: optional
Section: web
Installed-Size: 2204
Maintainer: Christian Marillat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Architecture: i386
Source: flash-player
Version: 7.0.63.0-0.0
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6
| xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxmu6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxt6 | xlibs (>>
4.1.0), mozilla-browser | www-browser
Recommends: gsfonts-x11
Conflicts: flashplugin-nonfree
Filename:
pool/main/f/flash-player/flashplayer-mozilla_7.0.63.0-0.0_i386.deb
Size: 1012080
MD5sum: 9e634d97fd9403ac6364b43f470653c7
Description: Macromedia Flash Player
 The Flash Player lets you experience animation and entertainment in
your
 Mozilla web browser.
Bugs: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

It is GT.M that does not have an RPM or Deb package!

-- Bhaskar

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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000D available

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 08:58 -0500, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Bhaskar,
> 
> I have downloaded the .tar file and expanded it into 
> /usr/local/gtm_5.D and created a link from /usr/local/gtm to this 
> new directory.
> 
> I am now trying to follow the instructions in the database migration 
> technical bulletin.  But I am already lost. 
> http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/V5_0-000D_docset/GTM_Database_Migration.html
> 
> I am trying to follow the "traditional" path, and the first step is
> 
> "Using DSE, increase the Reserved Bytes parameter in each database 
> file header by 8 (UNIX) or 9 (OpenVMS)."
> 
> I have never used DSE before, so this is new territory. 
> I got all my environmental variables set up, and then run dse.  I get 
> this message:
> 
> %GTM-E-GDINVALID, Unrecognized Global Directory file format: 
> /var/local/OpenVistA_UserData/g/mumps.gld, expected label: 
> GTCGBDUNX005, found: GTCGBDUNX003 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] gtm]$

[KSB] You should use the DSE from your current version of GT.M.  Steps 1
through 4 require the use of your current version of GT.M.  Step 5 & up
use the new version of GT.M.

DSE is documented in the Admin & Ops Guide
(http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/AdminOpsUNIX/UNIX_A_O/index.html).

Regards
-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] more linux questions

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 08:38 -0500, Alan O'Neill wrote:


[KSB] <...snip...>

> Linux is getting better about package management, but sadly it still
> has a long way to go before it is as clean as Windows (when Windows
> works).  I like Debian's synaptic GUI installer, but even that would
> not help with flash player. :(

[KSB] Alan, I have to disagree, as would anyone who has been in Windows
"DLL hell" or "driver hell".  Mac OS X had the best package manager when
I played with it some years ago, and package management on Linux is far
superior to any Windows package management I have seen.


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Re: [Hardhats-members] more linux questions

On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 08:05 -0500, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> I have two linux questions.  I guess I am still a linux newbie by 
> relative standards.
> 
> 1. Executing a binary file that has execute permissions: why can't I 
> just type the name of the file?  For example:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] gtm]$ mumps 
> bash: mumps: command not found 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] gtm]$ ./mumps 
> %GTM-E-GTMDISTUNDEF, Environment variable $gtm_dist is not defined

[KSB] When you just type "mumps" the shell searches through directories
specified by $PATH (try "echo $PATH"), but if the mumps executable is
not in one of the directories, it tells you that it couldn't find it.
In the second case, you are giving it an explicit file name to execute,
and it does not need to search through $PATH.  Your current directory is
evidently not in $PATH, either by its actual name or as "." - it needs
to be explicitly there for the executable to be found, and yes, this is
an important feature.

> Notice on the second time that the mumps command launches.  The 
> $gtm_dist variable isn't defined, so I'm not worried about that.  But 
> why didn't it work the first time?
> 
> 2. "Installing" 
> I recently tried to install flash player for Firefox on my newly 
> installed CentOS (with enhanced security disabled).  The automatic 
> install failed, so I was directed to a .tar.gz file.  It is filled 
> with files.  How can I know where these are supposed to go, and how 
> would the . directories and files get set up properly.
> 
> Also, my new CentOS is using firefox 1.0.x, and my favorite extension 
> wants version 1.5.  So I go to www.getfirefox.com and again get a
> link 
> to some .tar file.  I find /usr/lib/firefox-1.0 and create a 
> /usr.lib/firefox-1.5 and ensure the permissions are OK.  I then run 
> the firefox script and it launches the old version -- probably due to 
> some config file.
> 
> Why doesn't linux provide and installer system like the windows 
> system?  Or do they, and people aren't using it?

[KSB] There are indeed GUI package selectors and installers.  I don't
know much about CentOS, but on Debian, for example, there are several
graphical package managers, and for installers, I have a choice of
readline / dialog / KDE / GNOME when an installer wishes to interact
with me.  But it's my choice - I don't have a choice forced on me.

Most Linux distributions contain combinations of packages that the
distributor has tested not just individually but also to ensure mutual
compatibility.  In this case, you are trying to mix in your own version
of a package, which is not wrong, but you need to know what you are
doing.

It occurs to me that you may be trying to mix a production VistA
environment (where you shouldn't be installing a mozilla flash player)
with a personal environment (where you can mix and match what you want).
My advice is that if you are trying to set up a production environment,
then stick with the CentOS packages and levels unless you not just know
what you are doing but you *really* know what you are doing.  [I for one
feel that I know what I am doing, but don't *really* know what I am
doing when it comes to Linux.]

Production distributions like CentOS / Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4,
Debian Stable, etc. generally do not have leading edge versions of
packages, but they are patched in a timely fashion for security fixes
and important bug fixes.

Distributions like Fedora Core, and Debian Testing / Unstable give you
current versions of packages, but may be less stable and are less suited
for production use.

Ubuntu/Kubuntu gives a reasonable combination of both, but won't be as
leading edge as Debian Unstable or as rock solid as Debian Stable.

-- Bhaskar

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux and Windows on the same machine

2006-05-10 Thread Bhaskar, KS

As discussed in this forum a short while back, please remember not to
run production environments of VistA on GT.M on Linux on Virtual PC,
Parallels, etc..  Development / demo / testing environments are OK.

-- Bhaskar


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[Hardhats-members] GT.M V5.0-000D available

2006-05-10 Thread Bhaskar, KS

GT.M V5.0-000D is available at Source Forge
(http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm). This release provides
timely fixes to several bugs, as noted in the release notes on the GT.M
user documentation page
(http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/V5_0-000D_docset/GTM_V5.0-000D_Release_Notes.html).

In addition to bug fixes, GT.M source code was modified to use ANSI C
stdargs.h style of variable argument list parameter passing instead of
the earlier K&R C varargs.h style. This change enabled the use of
optimizer flags with the gcc C compiler, reducing CPU usage by GT.M
applications on the x86 GNU/Linux platform. The change is internal to
GT.M and has no functional or operational impact.

As an added precaution against errors in transmission and other causes
of damage to the distribution files, effective V5.0-000D, checksums are
available for each file. Henceforth, please verify the checksums after
downloading and before installing any GT.M distribution. If you get a
checksum error, please download the file and try again. If you get the
same incorrect checksum twice in a row, please send e-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] as soon as possible.

On UNIX/Linux platforms, use "cksum " to compute and print the
checksum.

1664741981 128233 dbcertify_V5D_linux_i386_pro.tar.gz
2286233995 3809075 gtm_V5D_linux_i386_pro.tar.gz
2281401696 2336842 gtm_V5D_linux_i386_src.tar.gz

Regards
-- Bhaskar

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RE: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project

2006-05-09 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Matt --

1. Use a distro & release that is still actively supported.  You will
need patches to critical flaws, including security fixes.

2. Choose your distribution & release based on (a) drivers for your
hardware, and (b) the level of support you think you need.  If you seek
24x7 telephone support, then your distro options are very different than
if you want business hour support by e-mail, or you just want patches
and are otherwise self-sufficient.

Although RHEL 4 is the officially supported Linux distro / release for
GT.M, it is supportable on any contemporary release of any major
(mainstream) Linux distribution as long as you don't do something such
as running a production database on a FAT file system on a USB drive, or
under an emulator like QEMU...

-- Bhaskar

On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 13:24 -0500, Matthew King wrote:
> Sorry, I was off the listserve for a while...it's the 32 bit that I'm 
> using, except today when I returned I found out the hard drive died. 
> (Insert usual long story here.) We are going to buy a real server for 
> this project and reinstall it. Any suggestion about what Linux distro
> to 
> use? I liked SuSe 9.3, but it is a little dated. Does HUI OV4 run on 
> SuSe 10x?
> 
> Matthew M. King, MD 
> Medical Director 
> Clinica Adelante, Inc 
> Surprise, Arizona 85374 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Ismet Kursunoglu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 6:11 PM 
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project
> 
> I ran it last year during this whole transition test period in the 
> move up here (AK) on a AMD64 laptop under Debian 64 with the 32-bit 
> compatability layer - I saw no problems. 
> 
> On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 11:16:25AM -0400, Nancy Anthracite wrote: 
> > I think Ismet tried it on a 64 bit setup at one time, so he should
> be 
> able to  
> > tell you, but I don't think he use SUSE 
> >  
> > On Saturday 06 May 2006 10:46, Paul Pearce wrote: 
> > Good luck and thank you for sharing the good news! 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Are you using Suse 9.3 32 bit or 64 bit? 
> >  
> > In addition, can anyone confirm if it would make a difference if
> HUI 
> OV4 ran 
> > on one or the other? 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > Paul
> 
> --  
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> 
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>  Wasilla, Alaska 99654-6659 
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> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux KDE question

2006-05-09 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 07:31 -0500, Mike Lieman wrote:

[KSB] <...snip...>

> IIRC, a RHEL ES up2date entitlement is about 350/year.
> 
> http://www.redhat.com/rhel/compare/server/
> 
> For a buck a day, it's patched.

[KSB] This is an important point worth noting for users of FLOSS
(Free/Libré & Open Source Software).  If you use it for generating
revenue, you should contribute to funding it today, e.g., by purchasing
support, so that it is there for you tomorrow.  "Funding" can be in cash
or kind (e.g., offering support or contributing enhancements).

Although some vendors offer per incident pricing, I personally don't
like it because it creates a perverse incentive to the developer to put
bugs in the code so that users need to call for help.  A service
contract gives the vendor an incentive to make the software as robust as
possible.

There's something to be said for the old Chinese system of medicine
where you paid the doctor to keep you healthy rather than to cure you of
disease.  [Since by now there are probably about a hundred people out
there who are thinking that I should stick to pontificating on software
rather than economics, I'll shut up and say no more...]

-- Bhaskar

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Linux KDE question

2006-05-08 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Kevin --

I am not quite sure where to start, and I'll try to keep this brief (I'll need 
to keep this brief).  Debian is actually an entire family of distributions that 
include the core Debian distributions (Stable, Testing and Unstable), the 
Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu family, Mepis Linux, Knoppix, Knoppix, Gnoppix, 
Damn Small Linux, Feather Linux, Morphix, and many more.

Knoppix is a hybrid of Stable, Testing and Unstable, and although it can be 
installed on a hard drive, it is not really intended to be maintainable.  Don't 
try to use it for a production system.

Debian Stable may not always have the latest hardware drivers.  If you have 
bleeding edge hardware, e.g., with SATA drives, Debian Stable may not have 
current drivers for them.  [There is an entirely different philosophical 
discussion as to whether you should use bleeding edge hardware unless you have 
to.  Imagine a drug manufacturer introduces a brand new statin, Maxtor.  
Wouldn't you want to try something with a proven track record and well 
understood side effects, maybe Pravachol, Zocor or Lipitor before trying 
Maxtor?  Similarly, bleeding edge designs are for those for whom proven 
hardware & software won't suffice.]

Production versions (through Breezy Badger) of the Ubuntu series are probably 
good bets, if Debian Stable doesn't support your hardware.

I haven't kept up with the Red Hat releases, but I am similarly not sure that 
Fedora Core 5 is a good choice for a production environment.  RHEL 4 would be 
more appropriate, and if you don't want to pay the bucks for RHEL support, 
consider an RHEL clone like CentOS, or a lower priced alternative like Novell.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Kevin Toppenberg
Sent:   Mon 5/8/2006 8:19 PM
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: 
Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Linux KDE question

Well, at your advice, I just tried to install Debian 3.1r2 (sarge I
believe).  And I was not impressed.  The install interface is chui,
which seems unnecessary, but I could overlook that.  But when it
failed to detect that I have a hard disk in the computer, I had didn't
know how to overcome that.  Fedora did fine with it.

After it faild to find the disk, debian takes me to a list of the
installation process.  I backed up one step to "detect hardware".  It
first loads up floppy modules, but then complains about missing
modules that look like they should be for my hard disk.

Anyway, I had heard that debian was essentially the same as knoppix,
which typically can get almost anything up and running.  This is a
relatively new Dell desktop: model DCSM.  I'm not sure how to tell
what my Fedora is doing successfully that Debian isn't.

I'm open to ideas, but I think I may stay with this working Fedora 5.

Kevin

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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M upgrade -- howto?

2006-05-08 Thread Bhaskar, KS

I forgot to note that the release notes are your friend (e.g.,
http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_V5.0-000C_Release_Notes.html)
 - they will always have a section on upgrading in the front.

-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 17:07 -0500, Bhaskar, KS wrote:
> Kevin --
> 
> Upgrading is a snap.  What I do is to install each version of GT.M in
> a 
> new directory, e.g., /usr/local/gtm_V4.4-004 for 
> V4.4-004, /usr/local/gtm_V5.0-000C for V5.0-000C, etc.  Then I create
> a 
> symbolic link /usr/local/gtm to point to the current GT.M.  That way,
> I 
> can refer to either a specific version by referring to a directory 
> like /usr/local/gtm_V4.4-004, or to the latest version, whatever it
> is, 
> by referring to a directory like /usr/local/gtm.  In any case, you 
> should always install each version of GT.M in its own (freshly
> created) 
> directory.  Use the GT.M install script and it won't overwrite
> anything 
> (remember to run it as root).
> 
> You will need to recompile all code modules.  GT.M will attempt to do 
> this automatically (remember to make the object directory read/write
> if 
> you want to do this).  However, with VistA, because of the
> compilation 
> errors from non-GT.M lines of source code, you probably should just 
> recompile everything.
> 
> If you are upgrading from a pre V5.0-000 version (the field test 
> versions are considered pre V5.0-000) to a V5.0-000 or later version,
> a 
> database upgrade will be required (see 
> http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Database_Migration.html
>  for more details).  Since you are not running a 24x365 shop, I suggest the 
> basic extract and reload, if you need a database upgrade.  For operations 
> that need continuous application availability, there is a procedure to 
> minimize down time (and for those who just cannot ever be down, there is 
> logical dual site).
> 
> V5.0-000D should be out in the next few days.  You may as well wait
> for 
> it.  If you don't want to wait, just go with V5.0-000C - a future 
> upgrade to V5.0-000D will be trivial (compiling all the VistA
> routines 
> will take the biggest single piece of time - a few minutes on my 
> laptop).
> 
> Regards 
> -- BHaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M upgrade -- howto?

2006-05-08 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Kevin --

Upgrading is a snap.  What I do is to install each version of GT.M in a
new directory, e.g., /usr/local/gtm_V4.4-004 for
V4.4-004, /usr/local/gtm_V5.0-000C for V5.0-000C, etc.  Then I create a
symbolic link /usr/local/gtm to point to the current GT.M.  That way, I
can refer to either a specific version by referring to a directory
like /usr/local/gtm_V4.4-004, or to the latest version, whatever it is,
by referring to a directory like /usr/local/gtm.  In any case, you
should always install each version of GT.M in its own (freshly created)
directory.  Use the GT.M install script and it won't overwrite anything
(remember to run it as root).

You will need to recompile all code modules.  GT.M will attempt to do
this automatically (remember to make the object directory read/write if
you want to do this).  However, with VistA, because of the compilation
errors from non-GT.M lines of source code, you probably should just
recompile everything.

If you are upgrading from a pre V5.0-000 version (the field test
versions are considered pre V5.0-000) to a V5.0-000 or later version, a
database upgrade will be required (see
http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Database_Migration.html
 for more details).  Since you are not running a 24x365 shop, I suggest the 
basic extract and reload, if you need a database upgrade.  For operations that 
need continuous application availability, there is a procedure to minimize down 
time (and for those who just cannot ever be down, there is logical dual site).

V5.0-000D should be out in the next few days.  You may as well wait for
it.  If you don't want to wait, just go with V5.0-000C - a future
upgrade to V5.0-000D will be trivial (compiling all the VistA routines
will take the biggest single piece of time - a few minutes on my
laptop).

Regards
-- BHaskar

On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 16:31 -0500, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Since I am working on a new server, perhaps now would be a good time 
> to upgrade my version of GT.M.
> 
> Can I just download the files from sourceforge and run the install 
> script?  I shouldn't overwrite any VistA data, right?  I have all the 
> data (mumps.dat) in a separate directory.  But what about all the 
> files that get copied, renamed etc. via the christening process?  Do 
> those live in the VistA directory?  I think so.
> 
> Any pitfalls to avoid?
> 
> Kevin
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project

2006-05-06 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project






Congratulations & good luck, Matt!  And have fun too -- that's important...
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Wish me Luck!



My board just approved a small demonstration project using OpenVistA. I will be the only provider, but using it on real patients in an outpatient clinic setting. We hope to show that VistA is a high quality, low cost alternative to commercial EHRs in the Community Health Care setting and to demonstrate it’s functionality to other Community Health Centers in our state (AZ). It’s a very small project, but may catch the attention of other CHCs, especially AZ CHCs.



My IT director and I have installed HUI OV4 onto a small server and are configuring it now; except he just went out of town for a week#%! I’ve downloaded CPRS and Putty onto my desktop in my office and will get it to talk to the VistA server. (That hasn’t happened yet. I received device errors when I started the RPC Broker, so we will need to troubleshoot that when my IT director returns.) I must say, however, the OV4 installation (on Suse 9.3) went extremely well and very fast! It has automated scripts that really simplify the process.



My plan is to gain proficiency on CPRS on my desktop first and then use a wireless laptop in the exam room.



I’ve been using the CPRS demo to train myself. I am also heavily using the Hui VistA Institute Documentation and the VA VeHU e-Xpress Train web site for additional training:



http://www.pacifichui.org 

http://www.vehu.med.va.gov/vehu/eXpressTrain.cfm



I did a survey asking the MAs about their comfort level using a computer. I will need to pick one of them to assist me with the project.



Kevin graciously agreed to provide some technical assistance on the project, for which I am thankful. I also would like to thank everyone on the listserve, the Hui project and WorldVistA wiki for their help and support, especially Bhaskar, Nancy, Jim, James Gray, Joseph Dal Molin, and Norman Dodd.



I would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have to ensure the success of the project.





Matthew M. King, MD

Medical Director

Clinica Adelante, Inc

Surprise, Arizona 85374

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Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project

2006-05-06 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] New VistA Project






I don't have personal experience with this, but others have reported being able to get GT.M running on 64 bit Linux.  But there may be some OS setting that needs to be enabled.  If you get stuck, please ask & I will in turn ask the person who reported the success.

-- Bhaskar
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Good luck and thank you for sharing the good news!



Are you using Suse 9.3 32 bit or 64 bit?

In addition, can anyone confirm if it would make a difference if HUI OV4 ran on one or the other?



Paul



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Wish me Luck!



My board just approved a small demonstration project using OpenVistA. I will be the only provider, but using it on real patients in an outpatient clinic setting. We hope to show that VistA is a high quality, low cost alternative to commercial EHRs in the Community Health Care setting and to demonstrate it’s functionality to other Community Health Centers in our state (AZ). It’s a very small project, but may catch the attention of other CHCs, especially AZ CHCs.



My IT director and I have installed HUI OV4 onto a small server and are configuring it now; except he just went out of town for a week#%! I’ve downloaded CPRS and Putty onto my desktop in my office and will get it to talk to the VistA server. (That hasn’t happened yet. I received device errors when I started the RPC Broker, so we will need to troubleshoot that when my IT director returns.) I must say, however, the OV4 installation (on Suse 9.3) went extremely well and very fast! It has automated scripts that really simplify the process.



My plan is to gain proficiency on CPRS on my desktop first and then use a wireless laptop in the exam room.



I’ve been using the CPRS demo to train myself. I am also heavily using the Hui VistA Institute Documentation and the VA VeHU e-Xpress Train web site for additional training:



http://www.pacifichui.org 

http://www.vehu.med.va.gov/vehu/eXpressTrain.cfm



I did a survey asking the MAs about their comfort level using a computer. I will need to pick one of them to assist me with the project.



Kevin graciously agreed to provide some technical assistance on the project, for which I am thankful. I also would like to thank everyone on the listserve, the Hui project and WorldVistA wiki for their help and support, especially Bhaskar, Nancy, Jim, James Gray, Joseph Dal Molin, and Norman Dodd.



I would appreciate any suggestions anyone might have to ensure the success of the project.





Matthew M. King, MD

Medical Director

Clinica Adelante, Inc

Surprise, Arizona 85374

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RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't ping 2 VistA GT.M implementations

2006-05-05 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Usha --

IO command parameters are different for each MUMPS implementation.  I know of 
no known GT.M bugs in this area.  You may well have to break the problem down 
and/or trace the application code to find out why it is not working.

Incidentally, have you checked the error logs.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

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Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't ping 2 VistA GT.M implementations
The same configuration successfully HL7 pings two Cache implementations of
VistA. Then why doesn't it work with GT.M?
Regards
Usha
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Recommend a preloaded Linux system?

2006-04-29 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 23:00 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

[KSB] <..snip...>

> > Linux. Would anyone care to recommend an inexpensive laptop or
> desktop 
> > that 
> > comes preloaded with Linux? 

Look at:

http://system76.com/index.php/cPath/1
http://www.linuxcertified.com/linux_laptops.html
http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html
http://www.linux-laptop.net/

Note that I do not care to *recommend* any laptop with Linux pre-loaded.
I am only providing the above for information purposes.  If you do buy a
laptop with Linux pre-loaded, at least on philosophical grounds, try not
to buy one where you are paying a "Microsoft tax".  By paying this, you
are spending money for software that you won't use, and that money goes
to spread misinformation about Linux.  Of course, if you plan to dual
boot Windows XP, then you should pay for the license.

I have personally installed Linux successfully within the last six
months on an HP Compaq nw8240 laptop, HP Compaq nc6230 and an older
laptop from Image-Land (http://www.image-land.com).

[KSB] <...snip...>

> For those who are "I need to know now!" types, download K/Ubuntu
> LiveCD (version 5.10 is the latest, with 6.0 around the corner if I
> recall correctly), boot the "laptop to be Linux'ized" from said CD,
> and go from there.  These are stable kernel distributions that in
> "most" cases (insert disclaimer here) should autodetect the common
> chipsets for hardware out there, including wireless.

[KSB] Knoppix (http://knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html) is another
excellent live CD.

> Now on to Linux and Wifi...
> 
> Wifi: 
> Linux and any hardware (network cards in particular) is an
> "interesting" topic to say the least.
> 
> The common chipsets for wireless network cards are Orinoco, Prism,
> Intel, and Atheros (aka MADWifi) to name a few that I can recall
> quickly that most "popular distributions" (reference DistroWatch at
> http://www.distrowatch.com) will detect.  Current kernel version along
> the 2.6.x series (I would look at 2.6.9 and beyond in particular) are
> adding and enhancing these on a regular basis (though I am still
> fighting the the Intel/Broadcom ipw2200 set myself with Gentoo).

[KSB] I have ipw2200 working very well on Debian Unstable.  Crawford,
contact me off line if you need help.

> K/Ubuntu both have LiveCD versions that I have noticed can pick up
> most of the "common" chipset for wireless networks.  SuSE/Novell has
> been pretty good as well.  RedHat and CentOS I have had mixed troubles
> and headaches personally.  Gentoo can cover most, but IS NOT for the
> newbie of Linux nor faint of heart.
> 
> One other key item to keep in mind...latest and newest does not mean
> it will fly right off the bat in Linux (save for those embedded
> software Linux kernel geek types that have to have a hobby here), so I
> would recommend a generation back on the chipset line.  
> 
> With the above in mind for an 802.11b/g setup: 
> - 3Com makes some Prism and Atheros based PCMCIA cards (covers the
> whole 802.11a/b/g). 
> - Most recent IBM/Lenovo laptops with built in mini-PCI wifi cards are
> Intel ipw2100 or ipw2200 or Atheros based (most are 802.11b/g).
> 
> - Most recent HP/Compaq laptops with built in mini-PCI wifi cards are
> Intel ipw2100 and ipw2200 (most are 802.11b/g).

[KSB] For many cards, ndiswrapper (which is built into many recent Linux
distributions) allows the Windows driver to be used under Linux.  I have
a Realtek 8180 based 802.11b card working under Kubuntu Breezy Badger
this way at home (but failed to get a Realtek 8185 802.11g based card -
$5 from CompUSA with mail in rebates on a day after Thanksgiving sale -
working).

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[Hardhats-members] VistA/GT..M/Linux ASP configuration

2006-04-28 Thread Bhaskar, KS

At the VistA Community Call today (Friday, April 28), the question was
asked about configuring VistA on GT.M in an ASP environment.  The GT.M
Acculturation live CD (download latest from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm) has a examples and
exercises that specifically discuss about how to set up such an ASP.

-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] VMWare, linux question -- starting up Xserver, GUI etc.

2006-04-28 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Kevin --

The technical answer is simply that When GT.M executes a commit to disk
operation, for recovery from a subsequent system failure, it relies on
that data being committed.  This is the responsibility of an operating
system, which in turn relies on the hardware.  But in a virtual machine,
the operating system talks to VMWare, not to the actual hardware, and a
commit to disk on the virtual machine may or may not commit to disk on
the actual machine.  Therefore, the data that GT.M thinks is committed
to disk may not actually be committed to disk, and if it is not,
recoverability will be compromised.  Now, with VMWare specifically,
there may be a setting to perform a commit to the actual disk when there
is a commit in the virtual machine, but I am not sure about this.

The business answer is that running in a virtual machine is just another
risk that has a benefit.  Just as a patient going in for a coronary
bypass must weigh the risk of premature death on the operating table and
painful recovery following successful surgery against the potential
benefit of increased life span and enhanced quality of life, running a
database engine in a virtual machine has risks and benefits.  Perfection
and absolute security don't exist - even sans a virtual machine, a
lightning strike may fry your server, or your operating system may have
a bug, and data that GT.M thought was committed turns out not to be so
commmitted after all.  Even with logical dual site operation of an
application, and with the forthcoming logical multi site capability,
there are no absolute guarantees.

There are no correct answers, only difficult choices to be made.  Making
them intelligently requires a thorough understanding of the risks and
benefits.

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2006-04-28 at 08:24 -0500, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> But why demo only?  The VWWare platform seems stable, if one can get 
> it all working.  I just shouldn't have experimented during a business 
> day.  The crash I experienced was as windows was sorting out
> resources 
> etc.  Our swap disk is also limited in disk space etc.  So I suspect 
> all these issues could be resolved.
> 
> I just want to go from 2 servers down to 1.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> On 4/28/06, Mike Lieman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > On 4/26/06, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > > For what it's worth, my opinion, nay advice, is that for
> production, you 
> > > should use a native Linux machine.  What we are talking about is
> for 
> > > demo / development. 
> > > 
> > 
> > And I expect that "Last Generation" ( Pentium II, 500MHz ) machines
> do 
> > just fine in that context. 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] VMWare, linux question -- starting up Xserver, GUI etc.

2006-04-26 Thread Bhaskar, KS

For what it's worth, my opinion, nay advice, is that for production, you
should use a native Linux machine.  What we are talking about is for
demo / development.

For demo / development purposes it's really not worth messing with
VMWare, Virtual Server, Parallels, etc.  One of the options for Damn
Small Linux (http://damnsmalllinux.org) is "dsl-embedded" which is DSL
bundled with QEMU.  From what I read, it unzips into a Windows
executable that you can run in Windows and it boots and runs a virtual
Linux machine.  Performance under QEMU may not be great (it may be fine
- I just don't know), but for demo/development, performance is not
critical.

If you try it, and like it, and there is enough demand, I will consider
creating a bundle of FOIA VistA on GT.M with QEMU and DSL for my next
VivitA.  Let me know.

-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] M2Web and Patient Registration

2006-04-26 Thread Bhaskar, KS

I believe itt was announced on the hardhats list by Colin Smith of
WorldVistA a couple of weeks ago, but there wasn't much discussion.

The next VistA Community Meeting is June 29 through July 2 at Robert
Morris University in Moon Township (Coraopolis), Pennsylvania, a suburb
of Pittsburgh, and a just few minutes from Pittsburgh International
Airport.  Details are being worked on, but there will be ample
opportunities for collaborative development.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 20:00 -0500, Jim Self wrote:
> I forgot to address the question of meeting.
> 
> When is the next developers meeting? End of June? Seems like we
> haven't had one in quite a 
> while already. Perhaps a small group could meet sooner in
> Davis-Sacramento-Pittsburg area.
> 
> Meanwhile, try it out, look at the code, send questions and
> suggestions and see how far we 
> can get online.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] VMWare questions

2006-04-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS

This is correct.  Hardening essentially means that the data is in
non-volatile storage where it will survive a power failure or an
operating system crash.

Incidentally, with SAN and NAS network based storage, the SAN controller
essentially asserts that its memory is non-volatile, i.e., that it has
appropriate battery backup and other fail safe mechanisms that protect
the data across a power failure or system crash.  That's why they get
paid the big bucks for their products.  Therefore, operating  systems
count the data as being hardended when the SAN/NAS controller
acknowledges completion of a write, and this actually makes the job of a
database such as GT.M or Oracle that much easier (and usually, but not
always, faster too).

Of course, while absolute protection / perfection may exist in a
parallel universe, it does not exist in ours.  There were news reports a
few years ago of a lawsuit settled out of court when a name brand SAN
vendor's IO system lost power and lost mission critical data for a large
corporation.  One of the design points for GT.M replication, to set up
logical dual site configurations of applications, was to absolutely
minimize coupling between the primary and secondary.

-- Bhaskar

On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 09:04 -0500, Maury Pepper wrote:
> "hardening" really means "confirmation" that the data has actually be
> written to permanent storage.  Mumps code depends upon the GT.M
> run-time which depends on Linux which depends on the controller which
> depends on the disk drive.  At each of those stages there can be --
> and usually are -- buffers which hold data going to and fro.
> Bullet-proof transaction processing depends on KNOWING that the data
> it commits has actually been recorded -- not just sent out somewhere.
> 
> BTW, network-based storage systems have made this type of reliability
> another degree or two more difficult.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] VMWare questions

2006-04-25 Thread Bhaskar, KS

As far as GT.M is concerned, VMWare, Qemu, Windows virtual server,
Parallels, etc. are all equivalent.  If it is a standard Linux, GT.M
will run on it.

Running a production environment is yet another matter altogether.  In
order to ensure recoverability, when GT.M issues a command to "harden"
the disks, it expects the data to be hardened to a permanent magnetic
medium.  In a virtual machine, that "magnetic medium" is a file in a
host machine, which may or may not be hardened when the virtual machine
executes a sync operation to harden the data.  I believe VMWare may be
the only one with an option to harden to the host magnetic medium.

So, while virtual machines are excellent for demo and development
purposes, they are not suitable for production unless you can be assured
about hardening.

-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Billing Menu

2006-04-18 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Vittal --

The GT.M Messages and Recovery Procedures manuals
(www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/V44MsgRecProc/index.htm) says of
ACTLSTTOOLONG:

--
ACTLSTTOOLONG, More actual parameters than formal parameters: 


Compile/Run Time Error: This indicates that the label  with a
formallist; is invoked from within a routine with a longer actuallist
(during compile-time). At run-time, a similar error can occur when a
longer actuallist is supplied by an invocation from another routine.


Action: Review the interface between the DO command and the subroutine.
Modify the actuallist, formallist, and/or label, as appropriate.
--

May be an application program bug.

-- Bhaskar

On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 06:02 -0500, M.S.Vittal wrote:
> All,
> 
> While dealing with Billing Menu, I am getting the following error.
> 
> ===
> CHOOSE 1-10: 6  PRCA BIL ENTERNew Bill (Enter)
> New Bill (Enter)%GTM-E-ACTLSTTOOLONG, More actual parameters than
> formal parameters: SETERR
> %GTM-I-SRCNAM, in source module /home/vista/r/PRCAUDT.m
> ===
> 
> Can someone help me to find why this problem is araising.
> Also while trying to create / enter new bill, "BILL NO. : K900012"
> system is again  asking for Bill No with out taking me forward.
> 
> 
> Select OPTION NAME: PRCA BIL
> 1  PRCA BIL AGENCY  Group Parameters
> 2  PRCA BIL AMEND  Amend Bill Returned from AR
> 3  PRCA BIL APPROVE  Approve/Print Pending Bill
> 4  PRCA BIL CANCEL  Cancel Bill
> 5  PRCA BIL EDIT  Edit Bill
> Press  to see more, '^' to exit this list, OR
> CHOOSE 1-5:
> 6  PRCA BIL ENTER  New Bill (Enter)
> 7  PRCA BIL PRNT  Display Pending Bill
> 8  PRCA BILL  Billing
> 9  PRCA BILL COMMENT  Bill Comment Log
> 10  PRCA BILL STATUS LISTING  Bill Status Listing
> CHOOSE 1-10: 6  PRCA BIL ENTERNew Bill (Enter)
> New Bill (Enter)%GTM-E-ACTLSTTOOLONG, More actual parameters than
> formal parameters: SETERR
> %GTM-I-SRCNAM, in source module /home/vista/r/PRCAUDT.m
> 
> 
> Regards
> Vittal.
> 
> 
> M.S.Vittal
> 
> 


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RE: [Hardhats-members] EsiObjects TCP/IP Server Not getting up

2006-04-17 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Marc --

What Vittal is seeing is a global directory format error - it changed
from V4 to V5.  Also, the environment variable is $gtmgbldir (the ISV
$ZGbldir inside GT.M processes).

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 09:52 -0500, Aylesworth, Marc A Ctr AFRL/IFSE
wrote:
> It sounds like when you are starting the esiobjects server, you are
> pointing to the wrong global file change gtmglobaldir to point to
> where the esiobjects.gld is, before starting the server.
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] EsiObjects TCP/IP Server Not getting up

2006-04-17 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Vittal --

GT.M is complaining that global directory was created with an older
release of GT.M.  My guess is that you are trying to use a V5.0 release,
whereas ESIObjects is released with GT.M V4.4-004.  Of course, an
upgrade from V4 to V5 is trivial, but it is something you need to do
explicitly.

The ESIObjects developers do not routinely monitor the hardhats mailing
list.  However, they do monitor a Help forum at Source Forge
(http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=111436&f_feedback=4),
so you should post there.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 04:18 -0500, M.S.Vittal wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> while trying to Iam getting following error. Please help me in getting
> EsiObjects server up.
> 
> ==
> 
>   
>   EsiObjects TCP/IP SERVER MANAGEMENT MENU
> 
>   
>   Start TCP/IP Server
> 
>   
>   Start server on which port : 100%GTM-E-GDINVALID, Unrecognized
> Global Director
> y file format: /usr/local/esiobjects/data/esiobjects.gld, expected
> label: GTCGBD
> UNX004, found: GTCGBDUNX003
> At M source location start+10^VESOTCMN
> ==
> 
> Thanks 
> Vittal.
> 
> 
> M.S.Vittal

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Converting a .dat file for use in GTM

2006-04-13 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Are you using the callback protocol or the direct connect protocol?

Do you lose the connection after periods of inactivity?  If so, I
suspect that your ssh is configured for keep-alive, where the client and
server periodically say hi to each other even if there is nothing to
say, whereas the CPRS client and server may not have a keep-alive, and
some stateful firewall forgets about the connection.

-- Bhaskar

On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 10:53 -0500, Mike Schrom wrote:
> I'd like to see some instructions on how to do this. My CPRS  
> periodically loses connectivity to the GT.M/Linux server through
> TCP/IP  
> on port 9200, without any obvious cause and I get 'timed out'
> errors.  
> the PuTTY connection through SSH always works.
> 
> Mike

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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-12 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 12:05 -0500, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:

[KSB] <...snip...>

> Bhaskar,  are you saying that it should not be difficult to get GT.M 
> running on OS-X?  Is Sanchez OK with this?

Since GT.M has already been reported to run on FreeBSD on x86, I am not
aware of any reason that GT.M cannot be made to run on OS X on Intel by
someone who knows what s/he is doing.  Of course, my not being aware of
a reason doesn't mean that there isn't some as yet unknown
insurmountable obstacle to doing it.

Apropos your second question, Fidelity has no objection to anyone doing
it.   Since the importance of a FOSS license such as the GPL, under
which GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux is released, is empowerment of the licensee
user, even if someone at Fidelity objected, it wouldn't matter anyway.
Proprietary software licenses put power in the hands of the vendor.
FOSS licenses put power in the hands of the user.

-- Bhaskar

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Which hole(s) in the firewall?

2006-04-12 Thread Bhaskar, KS

John --

First, there is no reason to use a range of ports for CPRS.  Use the
direct connect technique, deploy a server (GTMLNX^XWBTCP) under
inetd/xinetd and you just need a single port.

The most secure approach might be to use ssh port forwarding from the
client to the server, and open only ssh on the server.  The client would
forward a local port, e.g., 19297 to a port, e.g., 9297 (can be the
same, or can be different) on the server.  On Linux, this would be
something like: "ssh -L 19297:localhost:9297 [EMAIL PROTECTED]" and CPRS
clients would connect to the local computer at port 19297.  Although
this leverages the security of ssh, it does require a 2 step connection
process (which can be scripted, of course) and the ssh tunnel may cause
a slight "rubber band" effect to response time.

Another alternative would be to deploy a listener at a port such as
9297, but to use some of [x]inetd's ability to secure a connection,
e.g., by doing a reverse DNS lookup on the IP address.  (There's
actually much more that can be done, but I am not a security expert,
unlike others on this list.)

In the second case, the network traffic between the CPRS GUI and the
server will not be encrypted.  You could consider using something like
stunnel to encrypt the traffic, but I am now skating on thin ice with
respect to my expertise.

-- Bhaskar

On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 07:56 -0500, JohnLeoZ wrote:
> After a year's work, I have been asked which ports I want opened for
> my  
> VistA server. My main goal will be smooth after-hours access to CPRS. 
> I want SSH (port 22) of course.
> 
> But my question is how much further should I go? 
> Do I need to open 9200-9210 for CPRS or would it be better tunneled  
> through port 22?
> 
> Suggestions please.
> 
> JohnLeoZ
> 
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GT.M on Max OS-X (intel)?

2006-04-12 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 10:05 -0500, Dennis Ballance wrote:

[KSB] <...snip...>

> With a little bit of magic, I believe it is possible to compile the  
> source without having a compiler. M is used (I think) only to
> preprocess  
> one file, so that step could conceivably be postponed until after
> the  
> mumps executable had been successfully built. This would take a
> little  
> playing around with the makefiles...

[KSB] There is really not much magic.  GT.M is itself used to process
create some source files from text files.  So, until you have GT.M on a
platform, you can get these files from another platform.  It's a very
basic bootstrapping technique.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Zeroconf on Linux?

2006-04-11 Thread Bhaskar, KS

http://avahi.org/

On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 12:26 -0500, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> Does Linux support zero configuration networking (called Bonjour on
> the 
> Macintosh)? Out of the box? I know Apple provides a product called 
> Bonjour for Windows to enable Zeroconf on Windows.
> 
> === 
> Gregory Woodhouse  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> "It is foolish to answer a question that 
> you do not understand." 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] FOIA Vista Viva Question

2006-04-10 Thread Bhaskar, KS

You should be able to start with Chapter / Step 4 at
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Installation_How_To_VistA_GT.M_Ubuntu_Linux

-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 15:03 -0500, Geoffry Roberts wrote:
> All,
> 
> So I boot up the FIOA Vista Viva from CD and it boots DSL and all just
> fine. 
> I create a database on my USB key and it seem to create ok and I am 
> presented with a GTM promp.
> 
> So far so good.
> 
> Now what?  I woudl like to at least see some of the non-GUI  parts of 
> VIsta but I am at a loss as to what to do from here.  I have searched 
> for soem thing on what commanda I can run but everything I read 
> assumes I am furthe along.
> 
> Can anyone help me get to the next step?  I need to see, among other 
> things, scheduling.


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Re: Re: Re: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM

2006-04-07 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Vittal --

I got back to my laptop and the Internet.  Here's the URL for M2web -
http://vista.vmth.ucdavis.edu/notebook/index/48.html

Good luck.  And have fun with it!

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Sat, 2006-04-08 at 00:49 -0500, M.S.Vittal wrote:
> Thanks Bhaskar garu for the info.
> 
> Hello Jim,
> 
> I wanted to develop a GUI for the GT.M patient registration form. I
> came to know that M2Web could be used in this regard. Can you please
> guide me in this regard so that I could venture developing the GUI.
> 
> Thanks 
> Vittal.


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Re: Re: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM

2006-04-07 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: Re: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM






You should look into M2web & ESIObjects (http://sourceforge.net/projects/esiobjects).  I don't have web access right now to give you a URL for M2web but I know that Jim Self, the developer is on this list.

-- Bhaskar
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Subject: Re: Re: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM

Thanks Bhaskar garu for the information.

We wanted to create GUI for patient registation with GT.M (Unix) as our
database. Can u please let us know using which language (Java/DOT NET/PHP/ etc) we can implement it from a windows based system as client. Can you give the overview for developing the form.

Thanks & Regards
Vittal.


On Thu, 06 Apr 2006 Bhaskar,KS wrote :
>Yes, Aida is what you think it is, but with just a JDBC driver, and no ODBC driver.  However, there is no good tutorial that I know of, and you have to figure out how to map the Fileman files to SQL tables.  Lots of potential, but not something for the faint-hearted.
>
>A simpler route to SQL/ODBC access is KB_SQL (http:www.knowledgebasedsys.com) but you will need to buy a license, and you will need an ODBC/JDBC bridge.
>
>-- Bhaskar
>--
>Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld
>
>
>-Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
>Sent: Thu Apr 06 04:48:57 2006
>Subject: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM
>
>Hi all,
>
>In the URL : "http://www.sanchez.com/news_2001/nr_010618.asp", I found the following data "The collection of open source GT.M applications includes Aida, a relational (SQL) engine for a GT.M database with an ODBC/JDBC driver and a Java GUI using the Swing classes".
>
>What I could infer from the above is, Aida is a relational SQL Engine ... ie sort of interface to GTM dataface and ODBC/JDBC drivers are available to access this Aida.
>
>Will the data entered into Aida will be automatically updated into GTM database ? Can we write our custom Java frontend to access the globals of GTM ? If yes can any one help me in finding tutorial / guidance sort of thing.
>
>Thanks & Regards
>Vittal.
>
>
>M.S.Vittal
>
>  <http://adworks.rediff.com/cgi-bin/AdWorks/sigclick.cgi/www.rediff.com/signature-home.htm/[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>



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Re: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM

2006-04-06 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM






Yes, Aida is what you think it is, but with just a JDBC driver, and no ODBC driver.  However, there is no good tutorial that I know of, and you have to figure out how to map the Fileman files to SQL tables.  Lots of potential, but not something for the faint-hearted.

A simpler route to SQL/ODBC access is KB_SQL (http:www.knowledgebasedsys.com) but you will need to buy a license, and you will need an ODBC/JDBC bridge.

-- Bhaskar
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Sent: Thu Apr 06 04:48:57 2006
Subject: [Hardhats-members] AIDA & GTM

Hi all,

In the URL : "http://www.sanchez.com/news_2001/nr_010618.asp", I found the following data "The collection of open source GT.M applications includes Aida, a relational (SQL) engine for a GT.M database with an ODBC/JDBC driver and a Java GUI using the Swing classes".

What I could infer from the above is, Aida is a relational SQL Engine ... ie sort of interface to GTM dataface and ODBC/JDBC drivers are available to access this Aida.

Will the data entered into Aida will be automatically updated into GTM database ? Can we write our custom Java frontend to access the globals of GTM ? If yes can any one help me in finding tutorial / guidance sort of thing.

Thanks & Regards
Vittal.


M.S.Vittal

Re: [Hardhats-members] Converting a .dat file for use in GTM

2006-03-30 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] Converting a .dat file for use in GTM






I can't post a URL because the Internet is not working at my hotel, but if you go to http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm and then to the Patches section, you will find Maury Pepper's program to export a Cache .dat file in a ZWR format that GT.M, and. Indeed, any M implementation, can easily import.

-- Bhaskar
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Subject: [Hardhats-members] Converting a .dat file for use in GTM

How can I convert a cache.dat file, to use in a GTM VistA setup? I want to
port the setup I have made in Cache VistA to GTM.

Regards
Anna



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Re: [Hardhats-members] RE: VA's VistA Goes Big in Mexico

2006-03-29 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Thanks, Peter.  Yes, it is very gratifying.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Wed, 2006-03-29 at 07:44 -0600, Peter Bodtke wrote:
> Nancy,
> 
> Thanks for posting the link. In terms of standardizing medical records
> on an 
> international level this is another positive step forward!
> 
> Bhaskar, you must be very proud of this!
> 
> From the article -
> 
> The IMSS' version of VistA is running on GT.M, an open-source 
> version of the MUMPS database and programming language offered
> by 
> FidelityNational Information Services, Malvern, Pa. The 
> not-for-profit  WorldVistA organization maintains an open-source
> version of 
> VistA.
> 
> Peter Bodtke


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[Hardhats-members] GT.M Acculturation live CD 0.4 available

2006-03-26 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Consisting of expository material interspersed with exercises, built on
top of FOIA VistA VivitA 20060113, the GT.M Acculturation live CD 0.4 is
intended to help those who are used to other M implementations become
familiar with GT.M and to help those using GT.M learn about
administration and operations.

At 268MB, GT.M Acculturation live CD 0.4 is also less than half the size
of its predecessor, the 582MB GT.M Acculturation live CD 0.3.

The MD5 sum of GT.M Acculturation live CD 0.4 is
a088e348615d9e24b55e6dd1f380ea1d and it can be downloaded from Source
Forge (http://sourceforge.net/projecs/sanchez-gtm).

Comments and critiques are always welcome.  Thank you very much.

Regards
-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Braille support

2006-03-22 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Ismet --

Why would VistA need explicit Braille support for the CHUI when Braille
terminal support has been available in Linux for a long time?  Here are
some URLS that may be helpful:

http://tuxmobil.org/mobile_blind.html
http://www.linuxdocs.org/HOWTOs/Access-HOWTO-9.html
http://mielke.cc/brltty/
http://oralux.org/
http://leb.net/blinux/

Now, the CPRS GUI is something else - I have no idea what could replace
it for someone who is seriously visually impaired.

-- Bhaskar

On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 18:06 -0600, Ismet Kursunoglu wrote:
> Is there native support for Braille in VistA? 
> 
> I see it mentioned once here 
> 
> http://www.va.gov/vdl/VistA_Lib/Clinical/Lexicon_Utility/lextm2_0.pdf
> 
> Also there is support in recent Linux kernels for these devices 
> 
> http://www.papenmeier.de/reha/products/elintroe.htm
> 
> There are various models mentioned towards the bottom of that 
> document. 
> --  
> Ismet B. Kursunoglu, MD, FCCP
> 
>  Medical Director 
>  Alaska Clinic, LLC 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source and accessibility

2006-03-21 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 12:07 -0600, Greg Woodhouse wrote:

[KSB] <...snip...>

> That being said, I'm encouraged by what I've heard about Ubuntu.
> Right 
> at the moment, I don't have much of a desire to invest in a Linux
> box, 
> but the more I hear, the more I think Ubuntu is the distribution I'd 
> look at adopting.

[KSB] Yes, Ubuntu is a good distribution (it's not right for me
personally, but I have the the family PCs running Kubuntu, the KDE
version of Ubuntu).  You don't need to invest in a Linux box to try it -
you can experience [K]Ubuntu with a live CD/DVD.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Open source and accessibility

2006-03-21 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Comments below.  On the topic of access for persons with disabilities,
more light and less heat would seem to be in order.

-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 17:04 -0600, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> 
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Because there is so much money at stake with Microsoft potentially 
> > loosing its throttle-hold on the Office software end of things (not 
> > being able to communicate in .doc format is a big disadvantage),
> that 
> > I am always suspicious about who might have prompted complaints
> from 
> > behind the scenes.
> 
> You're a cynic. The truth is that (say, for non-sighted users) 
> accessibility for Windows depends on third party software such as
> JAWS 
> or Window Eyes. For OS X (Macintosh), the necessary tools are built
> in. 
> For Linux, well, you tell me. I'm not a Linux user. (And, BTW, I am 
> sighted, but I do have an interest in accessibility). 
> >  
> > Yes Linux is harder to use than commercial OS's like Mac OsX or 
> > Windows.  
> 
> Is it? From a usability standpoint, that sounds like a bit of a
> cop-out 
> to me. Given tha the BSD subsystem is so fundamental to OS X it
> sounds 
> doubly odd. The truth is, I use the terminal application when it is 
> necessary or appropriate to do so, but if I stick with the Finder or 
> Mail application it isn't out of ignorance or lack of ability, it's 
> just the way I prefer to work.

[KSB] I don't know much about customizing software for the disabled (for
example, I don't know the state of the art in allowing a blind person to
crank out a well laid out document, as opposed to reading and writing
such a document), but it is possible to use Linux with a Braille
terminal, and both KDE and OpenOffice.org have Accessibility features.
There is speech to text and text to speech (a simple search on Google
turned up http://linux-sound.org/speech.html).  Another excellent tool
that I have played with (but not acquired any expertise with) is dasher
(http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/dasher).

Any FOSS application that runs on BSD UNIX systems (including OS X)
should easily be ported to run on Linux and vice versa.

> I'm sorry to be so blunt, but Linux users (and VistA users) need to
> get 
> off their high horse, and stop claiming that the product is harder to 
> use because it is "better" or "more sophisticated". It might well be
> a 
> better operating system, but a steeper learning curve (if, indeed, 
> there is one) doesn't make it so.

[KSB] Greg, at least on this news group, I have not read much to
substantiate the allegation about high horses.  We all have our
preferences, but I haven't seen much, if any, high horsing of any kind
with respect to operating systems.

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-14 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Chris --

Although Ubuntu is an excellent Linux distribution (with commercial
support), and I use Kubuntu (Ubuntu with the KDE desktop) at home, there
was no intent on my part to sell anyone on Ubuntu Linux.  It was the
Ubuntu code of conduct that I wanted to draw people's attention to.

Did you tell Mark Shuttleworth about VistA?

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 12:18 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Bhaskar;
> 
>   You don't have to sell me on Ubuntu.  I liked Mark Shuttleworth when
> I 
> met him in Tunis.  His group had a lot of things going for them and
> they 
> are using their community wisely.
> 
> > Ubuntu is one of the fastest growing Linux distributions.  I was
> pointed 
> > to the Ubuntu code of conduct for developers yesterday, and I felt
> that 
> > it was well worth a read for anyone involved in software
> development: 
> > http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct 
> > 
> > -- Bhaskar 


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[Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct

2006-03-14 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Ubuntu is one of the fastest growing Linux distributions.  I was pointed
to the Ubuntu code of conduct for developers yesterday, and I felt that
it was well worth a read for anyone involved in software development:
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct

-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Wiki -- who owns the content?

2006-03-09 Thread Bhaskar, KS

No, it doesn't.  But I was only speaking to the concern voiced in your
post that I replied to.

-- Bhaskar

On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 16:07 -0600, Dan wrote:
> That really doesn't resolve the ownership issue though, does it?



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Re: [Hardhats-members] Wiki -- who owns the content?

2006-03-09 Thread Bhaskar, KS

If WorldVistA splits up, goes away, management changes, people get sick,
whatever, there are always the Google archive (http://google.com) and
the wayback machine (http://archive.org).  Other search engines may also
have their stashed copies of web pages.

Now, if Earth were to get hit by an asteroid or if Yellowstone were to
erupt again, there might be a bit of a problem until we build a data
archival site that is out of this world!  But I suppose VistA
documentation may not be high on our list of priorities were such a
disaster to happen.

-- Bhaskar

On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 14:24 -0600, Dan wrote:
> Actually, I'm more concerned to what happens to the content if
> WorldVistA  
> splits up, goes away,  management change, etc..

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Installation of VistA on GT.M. Linux

2006-03-09 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Ashfaq --

Installing VistA on GT.M on Linux is trivial.  Download the latest FOIA
VistA SemiVivA - in this case 20060113 - and follow the instructions at
http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=534052

The fun starts when you start to setup/configure VistA itself.  Until
the Wiki comes up, perhaps someone can post their private directions
somewhere on the web.

It looks like you can use the Google cache of the wiki by inserting
64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:2dQAslvqAa0J: after the http:// on a wiki
URL, e.g.,  (one line):

http://64.233.179.104/search?q=cache:2dQAslvqAa0J:openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Main_Page#Configuration_of_Packages

instead of:

http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/index.php?title=Main_Page#Configuration_of_Packages

It should also be possible to use the wayback machine
(http://archive.org) to access cached versions of the Wiki, but our
company firewall for some strange reason blocks access to these
archives.

-- Bhaskar

On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 00:11 -0600, ashfaq wrote:
> Hi
>  
> Can anyone mail me the installation instructions of VistA on GT. M./
> Linux. The WorldVista wiki page seems to be not working
>  
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Ashfaq

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Java-client access to VistA RPC (Remote Procedure Calls)

2006-03-06 Thread Bhaskar, KS

I am not aware of such an effort, and I don't think you will be able to
create a credible back-of-the-cocktail-napkin estimate.

If you really want a credible estimate, I would suggest running the
source code through a reverse engineering tool to create a metric such
as the number of function points, the number of menu options or some
other measure such as the number of gleeznop brognicks.  Set up an agile
project such as Scrum and implement some part of the functionality end
to end.  After one or two Scrum cycles, estimate what part of the total
functionality you have implemented, and extrapolate.

This won't be a cheap estimate because it will take you perhaps two
months to go through the exercise.  But it will give you something you
can hang your hat on, and something that will give you a basis to track
project progress.

-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-03-06 at 17:38 -0600, Joseph Puthooran wrote:
> Has anyone tried to estimate the work involved in redoing CPRS 
> for Linux - I mean complete with the RPC or else it does not 
> make sense. A wild guess without seriously looking under the 
> hood - I think something like 3-5 man years will be needed to 
> port it for freedom from Windows. But then if someone has 
> attempted it, or made a better estimate, and would be open to 
> working together, we could look at partnering. The other model 
> is an Open Source one. Anyone interested? 
> 
> Joseph Puthooran 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA® is a registered trademark number 2134973

2006-02-27 Thread Bhaskar, KS

(R) means that it is a registered trade mark.

TM has no legal meaning whatsoever, except that many people use it to
indicate an unregistered trade mark.  It's about as meaningful as the
smiley at the end of this paragraph.  8-]

-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 17:34 -0600, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> What is the difference between TM and the R in a circle?
> 
> On Monday 27 February 2006 18:15, Stephen Hay wrote: 
> Don't forget this...
> 
> Microsoft® Windows Vista™
> 
> Greg Woodhouse wrote: 
> > --- Nancy Anthracite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > The New York Times even did it and 
> > 
> >> it was 
> >> not a mistake.  It is "corrected" by editors to Vista from VistA 
> >> because we 
> >> fail to point out that VistA is VistA® . 
> >> 
> >> So, we need to find that nice little ® symbol in our word
> processors 
> >> and start 
> >> using it as well as spreading the word when we talk to the
> reporters. 
> > 
> > Or, maybe just use Vista. It's certainly easier to type than VistA, 
> > much less VistA (R) (or is that VistA-R?) 
> > 
> > 
> > === 
> > Gregory Woodhouse  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > "All truth passes through three stages: First, it is ridiculed. 
> > Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as 
> > being self-evident." 
> > --Arthur Schopenhauer 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] GTM question regarding "code space"

2006-02-26 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Kevin --

If you replace the code for a routine, any process that has already
linked the old version won't use - or even look for - the new version,
and an explicit ZLink will be needed.  But in your case, since a new
process will be initiated in the future, after the code is replaced, the
new process will run the new code.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 14:24 -0600, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> I have a GT.M question that Bhaskar will probably have to answer.
> 
> If source code is changed, these changes are not visible to running 
> tasks, unless $ZLINK is explicitly called.
> 
> So I have a process that is launched by Taskman to import demographic 
> data from a billing system.  I assume it jobs off a process to handle 
> the actual task.  At the end of my task, I schedule the next time I 
> want the task to run.  I have had this running for a few days.
> 
> But if I change the source code, do I have to do anything special to 
> ensure that future tasks run the new code?  I'm worried that I need
> to 
> shut down taskman because it is in an old "codespace", and therefore 
> it's child processes also use this old version of code.
> 
> I can't tell easily which version of code is being used when Taskman 
> launches the task.
> 
> Any thoughts? 
> Kevin


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[Hardhats-members] HIMSS trip report (long)

2006-02-22 Thread Bhaskar, KS

With approximately 17,000 individual members and 275 corporate members,
HIMSS (Healthcare Information and Management Systems Society -
http://himss.org) is the largest trade association for healthcare
informatics.  The HIMSS 2006 Annual Conference and Exhibition in San
Diego attracted perhaps 30,000 attendees and 800 exhibitors (my
estimates).  The San Diego convention center was bursting at the seems,
with some organizations - primarily educational institutions - using
what appeared to be hastily cobbled together booths in the corridors.
This was my first visit to a HIMSS trade show, and I have not seen
anything of this size since my now long past career in the electronics
industry.

HIMSS definitely strained the San Diego infrastructure.  Taxis and hotel
rooms were hard to find, as were seats on flights.  One of my taxi
drivers said he was getting far more trips to the convention center than
usual.

The booths of the major exhibitors - Siemens, Eclipsys, Epic, GE, etc. -
were huge, most with multiple presentation and conference areas.  Many
of them exceeded the square footage of the average American single
family home, and at least one booth (I think Eclipsys) was a 2 storey
structure with conference rooms in the upper level.  This was clearly
the place to be for anyone who was anyone in health informatics
management, with senior executives from vendors, users, and Government
alike, all rubbing elbows on the show floors and in conference rooms.
Exhibitors could classify themselves (they were not restricted to one
category), and the largest was EMR/EHR, with around 175 listings.  There
were additional separate categories for EMR/EHR Ambulatory Care and
EMR/EHR Military.

There is clearly big money being spent on healthcare informatics.

If there was one take away from HIMSS 2006, it was the feverish interest
in sharing of electronic medical / health records.  Of the areas set
aside for organizations to show case their products and technology, by
far the largest was that for interoperability, which was much larger
than all the others combined (64 scheduled presentations, vs. 28).  I
sensed undertones of "This is how you share information my way, which is
the best way" but I am sure these will pass.  I attended a presentation
and demonstration on FHIE (Federal Health Information Exchange) with the
ability to share health records for members of the US military between
the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs.  As this software
appears in the public domain through the Freedom of Information Act, it
will probably help set a de facto standard, much as VistA has for
electronic health records.

There were multiple vendors offering VistA based solutions, and the
booth of at least one appeared to be quite busy.

I was at HIMSS as part of the team from VistA Software Alliance
(http://www.vistasoftware.org), a trade association of organizations
offering services associated with VistA, such as implementation and
support, as well as associated products.  Although we were in a small
booth in an upstairs room (i.e., off the main floor), we had a fair
amount of traffic and several attendees sought us out.  Visitors could
learn about VistA and pick up reprints of recent articles about VistA as
well as collateral from member companies.  Fidelity's collateral was the
FOIA VistA VivitA 20060113 live CD of VistA on GT.M on GNU/Linux, and
this was quite a popular item.

http://himss.org/ASP/ContentRedirector.asp?ContentId=65647 is a survey
on EMRs released by HIMSS during the show that clearly shows an
increased level of interest in EMRs.

I feel confident that VistA will be a hot topic at HIMSS 2007.

[Side bar: I was actually not able to spend as much time at HIMSS as I
planned to.  My original schedule called for me to depart from
Philadelphia on Sunday, February 12 at 6:05pm.  A storm ending around
noon had dumped around 18 inches of snow, but Philadelphia airport had
reopened, the incoming aircraft arrived on schedule, the passengers had
boarded and settled by 6:10pm, and I expected the doors to close and the
aircraft to leave.  Instead, nothing happened - not even an announcement
- until 6:45, when the cabin crew announced on the PA system that our
pilot was still in Chicago!  They set a 9pm departure, and permitted us
to leave the aircraft.  About fifteen minutes later, they announced that
the flight was cancelled because by the time he arrived pilot would have
exceeded his legal limit on the number of hours he could fly that day.
When we returned to the aircraft to pick up carry-on bags we had left on
board, we found that the cabin crew had not been told about the flight's
cancellation, and they heard about it from the passengers!  Whatever
expertise must be demonstrated to get a license to run an airline
clearly doesn't include internal communication...

The earliest the airline could reschedule me was Monday evening, and I
duly flew to Los Angeles, boarded the last flight of the day to San
Diego.  We flew to Sa

Re: [Hardhats-members] CPRS Patient Selection Window Cut Off

2006-02-19 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Make sure you have installed MS Core Fonts (which are free but not Free
- http://corefonts.sourceforge.net and there is a Debian package if you
are using Debian GNU/Linux).

-- Bhaskar

On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 15:34 -0600, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> It seems I remember something like this problem from Boston when we
> were  
> working on porting CPRS to Wine, but I can't recall if we have seen
> it  
> otherwise.  I have a student with a wide screen laptop that has
> everything  
> from the left edge of the cancel button cut off with no scroll bar.
> We  
> changed the resoluton down to 1280x800 to no avail. We are using
> CPRS  
> 1.0.25.42. Any ideas? 
> --  
> Nancy Anthracite


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Re: [Hardhats-members] FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113a installation errors

2006-02-17 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Coments embedded below.

-- Bhaskar

On Thu, 2006-02-16 at 10:42 -0600, Zhou, Victoria L. wrote:
> 
> I will appreciate any help regarding the following installation
> errors 
> on FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113a:
> 
> 1. "tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors"
> 
>I got this error when issuing the following command: 
>cd /usr/local 
>tar zxvf /home/vista/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113a.tgz 

[KSB] Were you running as root?

> 2. "bash: gtm/gtmprofile: no such file or directory" 
>"bash: /mupip: no such file or directory"
> 
>I got this error when I ran the install script: 
>. Install childDir

[KSB] Assuming that you had changed directories
to /usr/local/FOIAVistA20060113, that command should be:

./install 
 Substitute the actual child directory for 



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[Hardhats-members] FOIA VistA VivitA 20060113 CDs

2006-02-17 Thread Bhaskar, KS

I recently needed a few hundred FOIA VistA VivitA 20060113 CDs (as
described at http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=534554 and
downloadable from http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista) to hand
out at a trade show.  Owing to the economics of CD replication
(manufacturing) vs. duplication, it was more economical for me to order
1,000 replicated CDs rather than get the quantity I needed duplicated,
and I now have several hundred more CDs than I can use.

I would be happy to mail you a FOIA VistA VivitA 20060113 CD anywhere in
the world that I can mail to.  Also, if you need a bunch, e.g., 40 for a
class, please let me know - I have plenty.

Please reply to this e-mail (so that the Subject tells me what it is
regarding), but change the To: field to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to send it to
me off-list so that mailing list bandwidth is not taken up.

Regards
-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Information

2006-02-16 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Information






Yes, proprietary would have been better!  Thanx.

-- Bhaskar
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thu Feb 16 11:49:41 2006
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Information

Sorry Bhaskar.  Would "propriatary" have been a better word?  And here
I thought I was doing good by not calling it "free"  :-)

Kevin


On 2/16/06, Bhaskar, KS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I have a bone to pick with the implication in Kevin's response that GT.M is
> not commercial.  We are very much commercial.  The difference is in the
> business model, which is based on not charging for the license, which is the
> GNU General Public License, but selling support contracts on a commercial
> basis for a fee.
>
>  
>  When personal care companies give away the razor and charge for the blades,
> no one thinks of them as not commercial.  When Google gives away a free
> search service and gets money from advertisers who get money from people who
> occasionally click on advertisements and even less frequently buy products,
> no one thinks of them as non-commercial.  But when a software company gives
> away the license and source code but charges for support, why do people
> think it is not commercial?
>  
>
>  Regards
>  -- Bhaskar
>  --


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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Information

2006-02-16 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Information

I have a bone to pick with the implication in Kevin's response that GT.M is not commercial.  We are very much commercial.  The difference is in the business model, which is based on not charging for the license, which is the GNU General Public License, but selling support contracts on a commercial basis for a fee.

When personal care companies give away the razor and charge for the blades, no one thinks of them as not commercial.  When Google gives away a free search service and gets money from advertisers who get money from people who occasionally click on advertisements and even less frequently buy products, no one thinks of them as non-commercial.  But when a software company gives away the license and source code but charges for support, why do people think it is not commercial?

Regards
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Sent: Thu Feb 16 08:41:55 2006
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Information

I think we will all be happy to provide information.  But you have
asked a very broad question.  Could you be more specific?

Regarding #2, the hardware requirements are low.  I guess it depends
on the size of you facility.  But for our 15 physician site, I found a
$3000 server is more than adequate, and will be for decades to come.

Software requirements:  You can use GT.M, a linux free-license,
optional-pay-for-support model.  This is what I use, and it is very
functional.  Or you can use a commercial product, Cache' that is, by
all reports, also very good.  There are probably other mumps
environments you could use too.

Technologies: the server side is all written in M/Mumps.  The client
is a windows application that uses a RPC broker for communication back
to the server.  The client source code is available, and it is written
in Delphi.

Kevin T.

On 2/16/06, Wasif Toor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dearl All,
>
> I need general information about the following:
>
> 1) VistA network environment in VA Facilities
> 2) Hardware / Software Requirements
> 3) Technologies Used in Individual Modules.
>
> I'll be grateful to anyone who can help me out with this.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Wasif

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Re: [Hardhats-members] XUSHSH (was:xuhash)

2006-02-13 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Title: Re: [Hardhats-members] XUSHSH (was:xuhash)






At least with GT.M, since it is so easy to access standard system library functions from M code, it is probably better to use these rather than creating new code.  One lesson in security is that it's better to use widely reviewed code, which is why the best encryption code is open source.

-- Bhaskar
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Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] XUSHSH (was:xuhash)

Kevin wrote:
>Try here:
>
>http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/m.cgi/rtn/XUSHSH
>
>Kevin

If you want to view the source code instead of HTML, change the URL to
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/m.cgi/rtn/XUSHSH.txt

If you want to download the .m file, simply change the extension to ".m".
http://openforum.worldvista.org/~forum/m.cgi/rtn/XUSHSH.m

However, I would recommend using a stronger encryption method on a production system.

>On 2/13/06, Norman Dodd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The FOIA disk does not release XUHASH, but I think WorldVista wrote a
>> replacement.
>>
>> -Original Message-
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> xushsh is what you are after
>>
>> - Original Message -
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>> Subject: [Hardhats-members] xuhash
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>> > Did not some WorldVista members write a replacement for the
>> scrambling
>> > routines for the access and verify codes. If anyone knows where
>> > they are I
>> > would like to get them.
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Protecting against indirection errors.

2006-02-13 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Sat, 2006-02-11 at 23:07 -0600, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:

[KSB] <...snip...>

> The main problem I have run into is when one of the nodes is null, 
> with GT.M doesn't allow in VistA (I think it is possible to configure 
> it to allow this!).  Isn't there a command to list out the various 
> nodes in a reference?

[KSB] It's not that GT.M doesn't allow a null subscript.  This is
configurable (the default is to not allow them).  However, null
subscripts are generally frowned upon in M applications, and I believe
that VistA standards prohibit their use.

Note that GT.M also has an option to collate null subscripts per the M
standard (before all subscripts) or a historical GT.M way (between
numeric and string subscripts).  The default is to collate them the
historical GT.M way (in order to not break existing applications), but
it is trivial to specify the M standard way a database is created
(details in the technical bulletin at
http://www.sanchez-gtm.com/user_documentation/targets/GTM_Null_Subscripts.html).

If null subscripts are prohibited by an application, the collation of
null subscripts is of course irrelevant.

-- Bhaskar

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Re: [Hardhats-members] conference call today?

2006-02-10 Thread Bhaskar, KS

My understanding was that Rick Marshall would continue the discussion on
preventing forking of VistA that he didn't complete last week...

I will call in.

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 10:06 -0600, Michael Zacharias wrote:
> Just wondering if there was going to be a call today, as I don't see
> the 
> teleconference information posted yet...
> 
> 
> thanks...
> 
> 
> Michael Zacharias
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Hardware testing with mprime

2006-02-07 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Ismet --

If you really want to test the RAM on your system, get memtest86+, which
is a boot time program that you can invoke.  It goes into /boot, and you
can add an option to /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it a boot time option
in lieu of booting the Linux kernel.

memtest is a user space program that you can use to test RAM after
booting Linux, but I don't have much experience with it.  memtest86 (a
predecessor of memtest86+) once helped me identify a defective RAM SIM
as the cause of flakiness on a PC - the problem was a single bit defect
at a single RAM location.

-- Bhaskar

On Tue, 2006-02-07 at 15:07 -0600, Ismet Kursunoglu wrote:
> Off topic but I thought that others would benefit greatly from knowing
> about 
> this application of mprime, namely for stress testing your system
> prior to deploying 
> it into production. 
> 
> http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm
> 
> I have been running it for 24 hours as a final test prior to
> configuring 
> our systems for production. So far I picked up one error that appears
> to be  
> related to a faulty chip-set fan. 
> 
> I have heard of others using it as a check on their Beowulf clusters.
> 
> --  
> Ismet B. Kursunoglu, MD, FCCP
> 
>  Medical Director 
>  Alaska Clinic, LLC 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Usage stats -- database size

On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 22:22 -0600, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:

[KSB] <...snip...>

> 1/1/2005.  Our mumps.dat file is 861,868,554 bytes (861 mb).  The
> GT.M 
> backup file (compressed somehow?) is 222,401,024 bytes (222 mb)

[KSB] I don't like this, unless you are somehow doing an incremental
(--bytestream) backup.  Please e-mail/post the mupip backup command you
are using.

<...>

> But overall, I'm pleased with the storage effeciency!

[KSB] How does it compare with the previous package you were using?

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Running multiple vista environments

If you are using GT.M, it's even simpler than that.  As long as each
process' $gtmgbldir/$ZGbldir and $gtmroutines/$ZROutines are set up
correctly, you can do a lot of mixing and matching.  Please look at the
GT.M Acculturation live CD from
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sanchez-gtm and just work through the
exercises in the browser window on boot up.  In particular, see the
example where two hospitals are set up to use the same set of routines,
and most of the globals, but they do share some read-only globals.

You may also find http://tinyurl.com/738jk useful.

More comments below.

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 14:25 -0600, Marc Krawitz wrote:
> I think this should work, but I wanted to double-check.  I would like
> to run multiple concurrent VistA environments on a single linux box.
> Couldn't I simply:
>  
> 1) Setup multiple users (linux users), each of which points to
> separate instances of the FOIA distribution (e.g. the mumps.dat and .o
> files, ect).

[KSB] You don't even need separate .o files if they are using the same
VistA routines and the same GT.M implementation.

> 2) Broker for each listens on separate ports.
>  
> I'm I missing something, or is it that simple?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
> Marc

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Re: [Hardhats-members] VistA Community Conference Call

On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 13:30 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[KSB] <...snip...>

>  The 
> files I currently have are .wav files, but .ogg files might be better
> to 
> save space and down-load time.  We need to see if there are open
> source 
> tools that can convert these formats without much loss in clarity.

[KSB] oggenc and oggdec work fine on Linux.  I believe there are similar
programs on all common desktop platforms.

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RE: [Hardhats-members] A rudimentary calculator

I would argue that the fastest way to get a "universal" MUMPS would be to take 
GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux (which is GPL'd) and write a portable interpreter in 
standard C for the intermediate code.  The database engine is itself highly 
portable to any platform with a POSIX API, but the language subsystem involves 
a compiler that generates native code.

The compiler works in two phases, a first phase that parses M code and 
generates intermediate code for a hypothetical stack architecture machine, and 
a second phase that converts this to native machine code.  Create an 
interpreter for the intermediate code, and you have a MUMPS implementation that 
runs on virtually any platform.  This type of work is all basic computer 
science stuff that any hard core CS graduate student would routinely do.  It's 
the software equivalent of a tonsillectomy - you wouldn't want just anyone 
doing it, but for someone who is qualified, it's a routine procedure.

Of course, it's not as much fun as writing your own from scratch!

A reasonable question is why Fidelity hasn't done such a thing.  We could do it 
easily if we wanted to, but that's not what our business strategy points us to. 
 If anyone wants to attempt an interpreter based on GT.M, I will try to answer 
questions.

-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
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Since Greg is working on a cross platform MUMPS compiler that might get VistA 
running on virtually any OS, I don't care how many parentheses there are.  

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Re: [Hardhats-members] 365,000 records stolen

2006-02-02 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Right, but one good hurricane or tsunami can wipe out the paper medical
records of ten times that many!

-- Bhaskar

On Thu, 2006-02-02 at 15:26 -0600, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> "There will always be a tradeoff between access and security. The 
> reality is that no one could ever steal 365,000 paper medical records 
> from a vehicle." - Health IT Strategist
> 
>   
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[Hardhats-members] Rendezvous at HIMSS

2006-02-02 Thread Bhaskar, KS

It is likely that several members from the Hardhats and Openhealth lists
will be at HIMSS.  If you will be there, and would like to get together
one evening, please send me e-mail off-list with (a) preferred days &
times and/or (b) days & times that definitely will not work for you.

Regards
-- Bhaskar
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS

2006-02-02 Thread Bhaskar, KS

I don't know the details of this particular care, but a common reason to
have the client talk to middleware is to integrate front to multiple
disparate back ends.  Consider m front ends or channels, and n backends.
Without middleware, one would need to create and maintain m*n
interfaces.  With middleware, one would need to create and maintain m+n
intefaces.

Of course, middleware software layers require additional computing
resources and add additional code to be developed and maintained, but
the theory is that as m and n get larger, and as computers and networks
get faster, the total cost of a middleware based solution drops below
the cost of direct connection.

-- Bhaskar

On Wed, 2006-02-01 at 14:42 -0600, Kevin Toppenberg wrote:
> Well, I guess smarter people than me have thought about this.  But 
> then again, the project did get shut down.  I wonder why there is a 
> need to change the server side?  Couldn't a java app talk to existing 
> server software?  Java doesn't necessarily have to talk to an 
> intermediate, I'm guessing.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> On 1/31/06, Jim Self <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> ... 
> > 
> > As it was described to me, the Java client would be very similar in
> concept to the 
> > delphi CPRS client, but it would use special java protocols to talk
> with an intermediate 
> > java based server that would act as a client to the VA broker. It
> was intended to be 
> > eventually cross-platform, but it would be tied to M$Windows until
> the wrappers around 
> > Delphi components could be replaced
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 available

2006-01-30 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Yes, it's the same executable.  The difference is in how you run it.

-- Bhaskar

-Original Message-
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Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 
available
So is the version of CPRS included with SemiViva the 'official' and safe 
version assuming it is run on a real Windows client?
 
Thanks,
 
Marc


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RE: [Hardhats-members] ^rINDEX and ^rINDEXCLASS

2006-01-30 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Cameron --

Do they cause any harm?  Should I remove them and re-release FOIA VistA
SemiVivA and VivitA 20060113?  Thank you very much.

-- Bhaskar

On Mon, 2006-01-30 at 10:40 -0600, Cameron Schlehuber wrote:
> They are indeed Cache specific.  I missed deleting those when I
> removed the 
> Cache specific stuff for the generic set of globals.
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Nancy 
> Anthracite 
> Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2006 10:04 AM 
> To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net 
> Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] ^rINDEX and ^rINDEXCLASS
> 
> As I understand it, those will be Cache specific and can be removed.  
> 
> I'll am sure Cameron will weigh in here later and let us know. 
> 
> On Sunday 29 January 2006 10:32, Bhaskar, KS wrote: 
> While creating the forthcoming FOIAVistA VivitA 20060113 (based on
> the 
> latest FOIA), I noticed that there are two globals ^rINDEX and 
> ^rINDEXCLASS that appear to violate the standards.
> 
> My understanding is that all variables (as well as labels and
> routines) 
> must be upper case letters only, and a maximum of 8 characters.  Both 
> the above have use lower case, and the second exceeds 8 characters.
> 
> Of course, GT.M handles them just fine so this is not a problem.
> It's 
> just that standards are, well, standards...
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 available

2006-01-30 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Comments below.

-- Bhaskar

On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 17:44 -0600, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> I beg to differ because when we were working on the project with the  
> Codeweavers, on my system the globals would be adversely affected and
> new  
> connections could not be made after trying to connect with CPRS
> running on a  
> modified Crossover Office, so I would continue to warn those trying
> this to  
> back up their globals if they are important to them.  It may be that
> whatever  
> was affected in the globals was very minor.   I never even tried to
> chase  
> down the problem so I don't know what it was, just that it happened,  
> predictably.

[KSB] How do you know that globals were affected?  Are you sure that new
processes could not connect because globals were affected, or because of
something liek the pool of Taskman processes for handling old style
client connections being used up?

> As anyone knows that has been around this list for a few years, I am a
> strong  
> proponent of getting CPRS running on Linux and have put a bit of time
> and  
> effort into trying to get it to happen, but wishing it were so does
> not make  
> it so.  When patient care is involved, I recommend you stick to the
> Client on  
> Windows.  If you want to play around on a test system, more power to
> you.

[KSB] I would not advocate using untested *any* application that you
plan to put into production!  Even a "proven" application must be tested
in your environment before it goes live.  In fact, if you look at the
"About" page that comes up in firefox when FOIA VistA VivitA 20060103
boots up, there is a strong caveat about testing and appropriate
warnings later in that page that the CPRS GUI under wine on Linux is
experimental and your mileage may vary.

I am also a fan of the "backup early, backup often" school.  Anyone who
sets up a complete VistA development environment on a Linux file system
using the install script in this SemiVivA and VivitA will note that
before image journaling is turned on, even for a development
environment.

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[Hardhats-members] Re: FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 available

On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 09:37 -0600, Bhaskar, KS wrote:
> I uploaded in a two step process, first to my shell account at Source 
> Forge and then from there to the File release system.  The checksum
> is 
> fine on my shell account, so it must have been damaged while
> uploading 
> from my shell account at Source Forge to the file release system at 
> Source Forge!
> 
> I will upload again once I complete and re-release FOIAVistA VivitA 
> 20060113, which includes some new scripts and some script updates that
> I 
> want to get into SemiVivA as well.

[KSB] The file seems to have been damaged when uploading from my Source
Forge shell account to the file release system.  Also, I updated the
scripts when I created FOIAVistAVivitA20060113.iso.  Ergo, I have
replaced FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz distribution with a new file,
FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113a.tgz.  The MD5 checksum is
2bfddf3d90d371a1013b7208bad00773.

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[Hardhats-members] FOIA VistA VivitA 20060113 available

Based on the January 13, 2006 release of FOIA VistA, FOIAVistA VivitA
20060113 has been released and is available at the WorldVistA project at
Source Forge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista).  This is the
smallest VistA live CD download to date, and is built on Damn Small
Linux 2.1b (DSL - http://www.damnsmalllinux.org).

Although small, FOIAVistA VivitA 20060113 still packs a lot, including
the ability to run the CPRS GUI under wine.  New in this release is the
ability to set up not only simple environments - as previous VivAs and
VivitAs could do - but also comprehensive environments as described on
the WorldVistA wiki (http://tinyurl.com/738jk).  Use the vista script as
before, with vista_cprs to handle CPRS direct connect requests or use
the install & run scripts with cprs_direct to handle direct connect
client request in a comprehensive environment.  [A comprehensive
environment requires a Linux file system, a simple environment can work
in a FAT file system.]

Furthermore, FOIAVistA VivitA 20060113 boots up with two browser
windows, one that discusses DSL and how to use it and the other that
discusses VistA, GT.M and Linux, and how to use the live CD.

The VistA and GT.M are the same as FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 - please
read the release notes for that as well.

I hope you like it.  Please try it and tell me what you think, and
especially what could be improved.  Please be candid, because that is
how future releases can be even better.

The MD5 sum for FOIAVistAVivitA20060113.iso is
0aab8108d6b913b871c362eea624054d.

Thank you very much.

-- Bhaskar


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 available

On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 11:14 -0600, Nancy Anthracite wrote:
> I would like to point out, as Bhaskar has pointed out in the past, but
> not in  
> the emails about this release to my knowledge,  that the CPRSChart
> that  
> Bhaskar has included is not fully functional on the Linux platform and
> the  
> functionality that is there is probably OK, but has not been tested to
> any  
> great extent.  So bear that in mind before you launch it and make
> backups if  
> you value your globals. 

[KSB] Nancy, it is entirely appropriate to warn folks to be prepared for
the CPRS client running under wine on Linux to be less than fully
functional and to crash.  However, I don't see how it can be any more
dangerous to the globals on the server than the same client running on
Windows.  I would expect the protocol between the client and server to
be robust enough to handle crashes of the client (otherwise, the
protocol can be considered fatally flawed, which I would assume it
isn't).

It is always good advice to back up the server often, and to run
journaling.  It is not necessarily meaningful to back it up more often
just because you are running the CPRS client under wine.

-- Bhaskar

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[Hardhats-members] Re: FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 available

I uploaded in a two step process, first to my shell account at Source
Forge and then from there to the File release system.  The checksum is
fine on my shell account, so it must have been damaged while uploading
from my shell account at Source Forge to the file release system at
Source Forge!

I will upload again once I complete and re-release FOIAVistA VivitA
20060113, which includes some new scripts and some script updates that I
want to get into SemiVivA as well.

In the future, I will also post MD5 sums for my releases.  I apologize
to all who were inconvenienced.

-- Bhaskar

On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 07:28 -0600, Mike Schrom wrote:
> Downloaded 4 more times, from four different mirrors, same result,
> same  
> md5sum:
> 
> linux:~ # md5sum /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> 714b75b4b3f560c43ab5aeb2ca3e444d  
> /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> linux:~ # md5sum /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> 714b75b4b3f560c43ab5aeb2ca3e444d  
> /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> linux:~ # md5sum /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> 714b75b4b3f560c43ab5aeb2ca3e444d  
> /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> linux:~ # md5sum /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> 714b75b4b3f560c43ab5aeb2ca3e444d  
> /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz
> 
> Looks like it got corrupted on the Upload!
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> 
> JohnLeoZimmer wrote: 
> > Bhaskar, I am getting the exact same error as Mike after repeated  
> > downloads from various mirrors. 
> > The MD5 checksum is consistant & not the correct one. 
> >  
> > 714b75b4b3f560c43ab5aeb2ca3e444dFOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> >  
> > regards, 
> > JohnLeo 
> >  
> >  
> > Bhaskar, KS wrote: 
> >  
> >> It unpacks quite well for me.  If you picked it up from two
> mirrors, 
> >> perhaps it was corrupted in the upload?  Can you check the MD5
> checksum, 
> >> please?  On my laptop: 
> >> 
> >> 9eea404fd318077797ef0fd59af93b27   
> >> /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz 
> >> 
> >> 
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[Hardhats-members] ^rINDEX and ^rINDEXCLASS

While creating the forthcoming FOIAVistA VivitA 20060113 (based on the
latest FOIA), I noticed that there are two globals ^rINDEX and
^rINDEXCLASS that appear to violate the standards.

My understanding is that all variables (as well as labels and routines)
must be upper case letters only, and a maximum of 8 characters.  Both
the above have use lower case, and the second exceeds 8 characters.

Of course, GT.M handles them just fine so this is not a problem.  It's
just that standards are, well, standards...

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Re: [Hardhats-members] FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 available

2006-01-28 Thread Bhaskar, KS

It unpacks quite well for me.  If you picked it up from two mirrors,
perhaps it was corrupted in the upload?  Can you check the MD5 checksum,
please?  On my laptop:

9eea404fd318077797ef0fd59af93b27  /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz

Regards
-- Bhaskar

On Sat, 2006-01-28 at 07:24 -0600, Mike Schrom wrote:
> Bhaskar,
> 
> Great timing for a new release since I just finished setting up a
> new  
> computer, however, I got the following when I tried to unzip it. I'm  
> still pretty new to Linux (and not that good with VistA either!), so
> I  
> don't know whether it's a problem with the package, with Linux, or
> my  
> own ineptitude.
> 
> As root:
> 
> linux:~ # cd /usr/local 
> linux:/usr/local # tar
> zxvf /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz
> 
> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated 
> FOIAVistA 
> FOIAVistA20060113/ 
> FOIAVistA20060113/g/ 
> FOIAVistA20060113/g/mumps.gld 
> tar: Skipping to next header 
> tar: Archive contains obsolescent base-64 headers 
> tar: Child returned status 1 
> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors 
> linux:/usr/local #
> 
> It does seem to unpack Mumps.gld, but I can find no evidence of GT.M
> or  
> any scripts. I downloaded it twice, from two different mirrors. I
> don't  
> see any checksums to verify it. I'm running SUSE 10.0 (64 bit) on an  
> Athlon 64. Would the 64 bit environment be a problem? Anyone have any
> ideas?
> 
> Mike Schrom
> 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] confused about enlightenment

2006-01-27 Thread Bhaskar, KS

And here I was, thinking that enlightenment is the source of confusion!
Every time I learn something new, I realize that there are (at least)
three more things I don't know.  Worse yet, those are three things that
I didn't know that I didn't know.

Just think about it, Chris - we're more confused about more things than
a medieval serf.  So, maybe you have the cart before the horse!

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 14:49 -0600, Chris Richardson wrote:
> See, your more enlightened already ;^)
> 
> It just means that confusion is the first step in breaking a series
> of 
> assumptions which hold back the possibility of enlightenment.

[KSB] <...snip...>

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[Hardhats-members] FOIA VistA SemiVivA 20060113 available

2006-01-26 Thread Bhaskar, KS

FOIAVistA SemiVivA 20060113 is now available and can be downloaded from
Source Forge (http://sourceforge.net/projects/worldvista).  A SemiVivA
package is an installation of VistA that is bundled with GT.M and ready
for use if you alreay have a PC running Linux.

Assuming that the distribution file is downloaded on your PC
as /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz, you can install it with
the following commands which must be executed as root:

  cd /usr/local
  tar zxvf /Distrib/VistA/FOIAVistASemiVivA20060113.tgz

This OpenVistA SemiVivA is slightly different from (i.e., hopefully
better than) its predecessors.

When OpenVistA SemiVivA 20060113 is installed on your PC in a
development environment, the intent is that the files distributed with
this release will not normally be modified (unless, for example, you
move to a new GT.M release and need to recompile and generate new object
files) - please read http://tinyurl.com/738jk for a discussion of the
model.

This OpenVistA SemiVivA comes pre-configured as a Release.  You can
still use the "vista" script to demo VistA, but I expect that you are
more likely to use the "install" script to set up integration and
development environments and the "run" script thence to run an installed
environment.

This OpenVistA also comes able to handle a direct connection from a CPRS
GUI, as well as the latest CPRS GUI itself the program CPRSChart.exe
in /usr/local/FOIAVistA20060113/CPRS_Gui).  To enable an installed
environment to handle a CPRS GUI connection request, you will need to do
the following:

1. Choose a port, e.g., 9297.

2. Identify the environment to handle the connection, and the userid for
the server process (e.g., /home/kbhaskar/myVistA and kbhaskar).

3. Add 2 lines to /etc/services, thus:

cprs-gui9297/tcp
cprs-gui9297/udp

The second line is not required, but it is traditional to reserve TCP
and UDP ports together.

4. Determine whether you are running inetd or xinetd as the "Internet
superserver".  If you are running inetd, you will need a line such as
the following in your inetd.conf:

cprs-gui stream tcp nowait kbhaskar /home/kbhaskar/myVistA/cprs_direct

If you are running xinetd, you will need something like:

service cprs-gui
{
disable = no
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= kbhaskar
server  = /home/kbhaskar/myVistA/cprs_direct
}

(I don't use xinetd, so the above is my guess as to what the entry
should be.)

5. Restart inetd/xinetd (on Debian GNU/Linux systems, this is a line
like /etc/init.d/inetd restart).

6. You may need to configure your firewall to allow connections on port
9297.

A CPRS GUI client should now be able to connect.  If you have wine
installed on your Linux machine, you can try running the CPRS GUI on
Linux with (one line, look out for line breaks):

wine /usr/local/FOIAVistA20060113/CPRS_Gui/CPRSChart.exe s=localhost
p=9297 SPLASH=OFF CCOW=DISABLE

Good luck.

I promised to document the process of creating a SemiVivA package from a
FOIA release, and I have copious notes that I need to convert into
something readable.  I will do that after I create FOIAVistA VivA
20060113.

Regards
-- Bhaskar



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RE: [Hardhats-members] Compiling CPRS

2006-01-26 Thread Bhaskar, KS

Roy --

WHat mail client are you using and on what platform?  I use evolution on
Linux, and don't have any issues with Nancy's (or anyone else's) e-mail.

-- Bhaskar

On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 05:54 -0600, Roy Gaber wrote:
> Nancy, each time I read you e-mails, not all but a lot of them are
> causing a prompt for me to install a language pack in order to view.
> 
>  
> 
> Does this happen to anyone else?


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Re: [Hardhats-members] Setting up medication ordering

2006-01-23 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Sat, 2006-01-21 at 13:54 -0600, Marc Krawitz wrote:
> Kevin, one of things I'm researching is scripting gtm commands.  In 

[KSB] Marc, standard shell scripting works, e.g.:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mumps -dir < w "Hello, world"
> h
> XYZ

GTM>
Hello, world
GTM>
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

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Re: [Hardhats-members] Interleaving

2006-01-18 Thread Bhaskar, KS

On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 18:40 -0600, Greg Woodhouse wrote:
> --- Kevin Toppenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Looks like the job manager is allowing each task only one
> instruction 
> > cycle, then moves on.  Since each job is identical, it seems 
> > reasonable that they would show a strict alternating pattern. 
> >  
> > Kevin
> 
> it surprises me. Switching between tasks is not free, and I would 
> expect it to happen less often than on every step. Then again, this
> may 
> be an optimization due to the code being identical in each case. It 
> would be interesting to have to separate but identical entry points 
> (except for the "A" and "B", of course) and see if the same thing 
> happens.
> 
> Under GT.M I believe the two jobs will be separate processes, and 
> scheduling will be left to the Linux kernel. 

[KSB] Here is a hypothesis for the processes moving in lock step.
Consder that whenever each process tries to do an IO operation, the OS
scheduler most likely takes away its CPU slice and gives it to the other
process, which is ready to do its next IO within one CPU slice, so the
CPU goes back and forth between the two processes that then appear to be
in lock step.

Yes, in GT.M, each M process is independly scheduled by the OS
scheduler.

-- Bhaskar


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[Hardhats-members] Re: Which Linux is for you?

One of the Linuxes it suggested for me was Mepis Linux.  I was getting
frustrated with Kubuntu because the Ubuntu distributions, although
technically Debian GNU/Linux, had their own versions of packages and
their own repositories that resulted in a few annoyances (I doubt that
most people would notice, but I tend to be picky about my Linux
configuration the same way that I tend to be picky about beer, chocolate
and habañero sauce).  So, this weekend I tried simply Mepis 3.4-1-RC1
(http://www.mepis.com/node/146), and I have to confess that I am very
happy with it so far.  Although I was aware of Mepis before, I would
probably not have tried it without the web site's recommendation.  So,
for me at least, it made a good choice.

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2006-01-06 at 16:55 -0500, Bhaskar, KS wrote:
> There have been questions on this list about which Linux distribution is
> the best choice, since there are so many.
> http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/ has a set of questions it asks and
> then recommends a distribution.  For me, it came up with appropriate
> choices.  YMMV.
> 
> -- Bhaskar
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Re: [Hardhats-members] New Developers, MUMPS language syntax, etal....

On Mon, 2006-01-16 at 13:12 -0600, Chris Richardson wrote:
> Greg, have you ever read anything you haven't had something negative
> to say 
> about it?

[KSB] Chris, without commenting on the rest of your message, may I
respectfully request that you withdraw this part of it.  In order to
avoid flame wars that have engulfed other groups, we would like to keep
the discussion impersonal and objective, while remaining passionate
about our beliefs.  Thank you very much.

Regards
-- Bhaskar

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Re: [Hardhats-members] New Developers, MUMPS language syntax, et al....

On Sun, 2006-01-15 at 20:48 -0600, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
> Stephen,
> 
> Rather than point someone to a discussion forum ...I would point
> your  
> customers to the many vendors that employ MUMPS today in their  
> applicationsEpic, Meditech, Quadramed, Eclipsys, Cerner,  
> McKesson/HBOC (or whatever they go by today), IDX, Keane etc. Kaiser  
> Permanante is investing a huge amount of money in implementing  
> Epicclose to a billion if memory serves me well.
> 
> Can someone list major health applications that don't use
> MUMPSit's  
> been a while since I looked...

[KSB] Actually, I think Cerner is the exception in being Oracle based
rather than MUMPS based, although they have acquired companies that have
MUMPS based systems.  Also, don't forget Siemens (what used to be Shared
Medical Systems) - another MUMPS based system.

-- Bhaskar


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