RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread Steven . Tomlinson
Just curious, was this deployment based on the Open Source release of GT.M?

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 http://www.fidelityinfoservices.com/FNFIS/CompanyLevel/NewsEve
 nts/20041108.htm
 
 Krung Thai Bank is the second largest bank in Thailand.  To 
 the best of
 my knowledge, at over 14 million accounts, this is the largest single
 real-time core processing system in production at any commercial bank
 anywhere in the world.
 
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread whitten
I believe Bhaskar has said in the past that other than platform specific
details (like generating code for non x86 CPUs) the Open Source code is the
same code used on all systems supported on GT.M

 
 Just curious, was this deployment based on the Open Source release of GT.M?
 
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  http://www.fidelityinfoservices.com/FNFIS/CompanyLevel/NewsEve
  nts/20041108.htm
  
  Krung Thai Bank is the second largest bank in Thailand.  To 
  the best of
  my knowledge, at over 14 million accounts, this is the largest single
  real-time core processing system in production at any commercial bank
  anywhere in the world.
  
  -- Bhaskar
  
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Steve --

This Krung Thai Bank deployment was on Sun SPARC Solaris, on which GT.M
is more traditionally licensed and priced (i.e., GT.M on Sun SPARC
Solaris is not open source and not free software).

I would like to clarify (just in case there is a possible
misunderstanding) that there are not separate GT.M versions that are
open source free software and that are not open source free software. 
It's the same GT.M, but available under different licensing/pricing
combinations.  The distinction is in the business model, rather than in
the product.  [There are organizations that have purchased licenses for
GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux because they wanted to use it under a different
license from the GNU General Public License.]

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 15:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just curious, was this deployment based on the Open Source release of GT.M?
 
 Steven B. Tomlinson
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
 www.PacificHui.org
 
 
 
 
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  Bhaskar
  Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:23 AM
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  Subject: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M
  
  
  http://www.fidelityinfoservices.com/FNFIS/CompanyLevel/NewsEve
  nts/20041108.htm
  
  Krung Thai Bank is the second largest bank in Thailand.  To 
  the best of
  my knowledge, at over 14 million accounts, this is the largest single
  real-time core processing system in production at any commercial bank
  anywhere in the world.
  
  -- Bhaskar
  
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Re: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread Nancy E. Anthracite
Solaris not being open source is allegedly about to change.

On Friday 03 December 2004 05:50 pm, K.S. Bhaskar wrote:
 Steve --

 This Krung Thai Bank deployment was on Sun SPARC Solaris, on which GT.M
 is more traditionally licensed and priced (i.e., GT.M on Sun SPARC
 Solaris is not open source and not free software).

 I would like to clarify (just in case there is a possible
 misunderstanding) that there are not separate GT.M versions that are
 open source free software and that are not open source free software.
 It's the same GT.M, but available under different licensing/pricing
 combinations.  The distinction is in the business model, rather than in
 the product.  [There are organizations that have purchased licenses for
 GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux because they wanted to use it under a different
 license from the GNU General Public License.]

 -- Bhaskar

 On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 15:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just curious, was this deployment based on the Open Source release of
  GT.M?
 
  Steven B. Tomlinson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
  www.PacificHui.org
 
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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   Bhaskar
   Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:23 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M
  
  
   http://www.fidelityinfoservices.com/FNFIS/CompanyLevel/NewsEve
   nts/20041108.htm
  
   Krung Thai Bank is the second largest bank in Thailand.  To
   the best of
   my knowledge, at over 14 million accounts, this is the largest single
   real-time core processing system in production at any commercial bank
   anywhere in the world.
  
   -- Bhaskar
  
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread Tomlinson, Steven B
Aloha Bhaskar,
Thanks for the clarification, I have been wondering what (if any)
differences there were between the GT.M distributions.

Steven B. Tomlinson
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 Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 12:50 PM
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 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M
 
 
 Steve --
 
 This Krung Thai Bank deployment was on Sun SPARC Solaris, on 
 which GT.M
 is more traditionally licensed and priced (i.e., GT.M on Sun SPARC
 Solaris is not open source and not free software).
 
 I would like to clarify (just in case there is a possible
 misunderstanding) that there are not separate GT.M versions that are
 open source free software and that are not open source free software. 
 It's the same GT.M, but available under different licensing/pricing
 combinations.  The distinction is in the business model, 
 rather than in
 the product.  [There are organizations that have purchased 
 licenses for
 GT.M on x86 GNU/Linux because they wanted to use it under a different
 license from the GNU General Public License.]
 
 -- Bhaskar
 
 On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 15:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just curious, was this deployment based on the Open Source 
 release of GT.M?
  
  Steven B. Tomlinson
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Pacific Telehealth and Technology Hui
  www.PacificHui.org
  
  
  
  
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   Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 4:23 AM
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   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M
   
   
   http://www.fidelityinfoservices.com/FNFIS/CompanyLevel/NewsEve
   nts/20041108.htm
   
   Krung Thai Bank is the second largest bank in Thailand.  To 
   the best of
   my knowledge, at over 14 million accounts, this is the 
 largest single
   real-time core processing system in production at any 
 commercial bank
   anywhere in the world.
   
   -- Bhaskar
   
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RE: [Hardhats-members] Krung Thai Bank goes live on GT.M

2004-12-03 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
Steve --

There are some differences down in the detail level, mostly as a result
of differences between hardware architectures, operating systems, as
well as what development found funding and what did not.

There are differences between GT.M on Alpha/VMS and GT.M on UNIX/Linux: 
the underlying OS platforms are different enough that we have different
manuals for them - although the manuals are generated from a common
source with conditional text.  The UNIX implementations support
identical implementations of the M language, but here are some examples
of the differences:

  * Some platforms support a Direct IO flag which turns on the
O_DIRECT setting for journal IO, which can either speed things
up or slow things down depending on the IO subsystem.

  * GT.M on Sun SPARC Solaris supports Sun RPC call-ins.  The others
don't.

  * The GT.M compiler on AIX, HP-UX and Tru64 UNIX creates object
files in a format that can be incorporated into .so shared
libraries.  The GT.M compiler on Linux and Solaris does not.

  * There may be differences in the ability to pass parameters in
registers when calling between M and C on the different
platforms, but I can't remember right now.

  * A GT.M process on AIX can have fewer database files open at one
time than on other platforms (the limit is something like 9
caused by fact that each shared memory segment uses a segment
register).

-- Bhaskar

On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 18:44, Tomlinson, ,Steven B wrote:
 Aloha Bhaskar,
 Thanks for the clarification, I have been wondering what (if any)
 differences there were between the GT.M distributions.
 
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