Re: [H] would this be a good idea for THG

[Wayne Johnson]

At 08:04 PM 1/12/2006, Jim Edwards typed:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/12/million_pixels/

So it wouldn't be the first one but it could help to ensure THG and 
the list stays around for a very long time. I donno... Just a thought.


At the price of machines today a million would be a little excessive 
don't you think?


You could try to sell your soul on eBay.  Oh wait a minute someone 
has already done that too.  What you need is a novel idea that people will buy.



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   Wayne D. Johnson
Ashland, OH, USA 44805
 

RE: [H] would this be a good idea for THG

[Hayes Elkins]

Billions of copycat pixel sites out there already. None make any money. The 
few that generate any cash are, what else, porn pixel sites.


The kid did good.



From: Jim Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: The Hardware List 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] would this be a good idea for THG
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 20:04:19 -0500

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/12/million_pixels/

So it wouldn't be the first one but it could help to ensure THG and the 
list stays around for a very long time. I donno... Just a thought.

Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[Winterlight]

Power supply checks out OK on the meter and I don't see any flashing 
lights, other then the constant flashing activity light. I did picked up a 
new router today, but when I got home this evening everything is running 
fine it's driving me nuts! When it goes south again I will try swapping 
out the router.



I've had three power supplies go bad on Netgear PS105 8 port 10/100
switches.
These switch's work for a couple of years, then start to have problems,
then die.
The problems usually are indicated by the switch's port lights flashing
on and off (all ports flashing synchronously at once) for short periods.
This happens more and more frequently and then the switch dies completely.
Maybe Netgear used really cheap power supplies on their consumer grade
switches.
Could this be the problem with your (Winterlight's) Netgear Router?

Regards,
Bill

Re: [H] would this be a good idea for THG

[jeff.lane]

Can you go to jail for pixel flogging?

- Original Message - 
From: "Anthony Q. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "The Hardware List" 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [H] would this be a good idea for THG



Jim Edwards wrote:


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/12/million_pixels/

So it wouldn't be the first one but it could help to ensure THG and 
the list stays around for a very long time. I donno... Just a thought.



How do you flog a pixel?

Re: [H] would this be a good idea for THG

[Anthony Q. Martin]

Jim Edwards wrote:


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/12/million_pixels/

So it wouldn't be the first one but it could help to ensure THG and 
the list stays around for a very long time. I donno... Just a thought.



How do you flog a pixel?

[H] would this be a good idea for THG

[Jim Edwards]

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/12/million_pixels/

So it wouldn't be the first one but it could help to ensure THG and the 
list stays around for a very long time. I donno... Just a thought.

Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[Bill Cohane]

At 09:59 01/12/06, you wrote:

I finally ended up buying a new router for 60 bucks from Office Depot.
Problem solved. Lost 2 of these cheap consumer routers in 3 years.



I've had three power supplies go bad on Netgear PS105 8 port 10/100
switches.

These switch's work for a couple of years, then start to have problems,
then die.

The problems usually are indicated by the switch's port lights flashing
on and off (all ports flashing synchronously at once) for short periods.
This happens more and more frequently and then the switch dies completely.

Maybe Netgear used really cheap power supplies on their consumer grade
switches.

Could this be the problem with your (Winterlight's) Netgear Router?

Regards,
Bill 

Re: [H] SATA cable length

[Winterlight]

Here is what I found on Maxtor's site


SATA Interface Cable Requirements: 7-pin Serial ATA interface cable (Gen. 
2-compliant) up to 1 meter in length.



So, 1 meter = 39.37007874 inches





At 11:48 AM 1/12/2006, you wrote:

At 03:28 PM 12/01/2006, Winterlight wrote:
What is the max length on SATA cables. I see Cyber guys has 19 inch ... 
and 39 inch!

Is 39 inch OK?


But this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA

Says up to a metre.

T

Re: [H] SATA cable length

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 03:28 PM 12/01/2006, Winterlight wrote:
What is the max length on SATA cables. I see Cyber guys has 19 inch ... 
and 39 inch!

Is 39 inch OK?


According to this:
http://www.ata-atapi.com/sata.htm

"SATA supports a single device per SATA cable. A SATA cable can be longer 
than a parallel ATA cable (limited to 1.5 feet), perhaps up to 2 or 3 feet 
long. "


T 

Re: [H] SATA cable length

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 03:28 PM 12/01/2006, Winterlight wrote:
What is the max length on SATA cables. I see Cyber guys has 19 inch ... 
and 39 inch!

Is 39 inch OK?


But this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SATA

Says up to a metre.

T 

Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[FORC5]

vpn router with some nice key word blocking ability built in but you may be 
right, recently set up a dlink for a customer and it had the ability to check 
itself for firmware updates. Router live update. :-)
fp

At 12:05 PM 1/12/2006, Winterlight Poked the stick with:

>fvs ? I take it the 318 is a router I can't reset my Netgear 314... well, 
>I can turn it off and on but that doesn't do anything.
>
>I was thinking the same thing but after doing some looking around I think 
>routers have come a long way... better interfaces, better security, built in 
>wireless, ... and companies like Belkin, Dlink, SMC offer lifetime 
>warranties where as Netgear gives you a year. Besides, the last Netgear 
>product I bought sucked = a Gb NIC. And, of course, they are very cheap. After 
>rebates and sales I paid 50 bucks for my Netgear 314, which, four years ago 
>was a great price. Now for a wireless with all the same features, and more the 
>retail is going to be $52. Plus you get a modern up to date firewall  I 
>think my 314s last flash was June of 01 of course I don't want to do this 
>unless I am sure this is the problem.
>

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[H] SATA cable length

[Winterlight]

What is the max length on SATA cables. I see Cyber guys has 19 inch ... and 
39 inch!

Is 39 inch OK?

Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[Winterlight]

At 06:59 AM 1/12/2006, you wrote:


Could be going bad.   The last Linksys I lost did the same thing, as did
the D-Link before that..

JRS   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


This is good to know

Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[Winterlight]

At 10:13 AM 1/12/2006, you wrote:
I recently replaced my Modem due to having to reset often, now the modem 
is fine and a couple of time a week need to reset


When I activated my new Modem, Cox told me not to feel so bad, they have 
been supporting DOCsys 1.1 but pretty soon I was going to have to replace 
my old Lynksys in order to be able to get the higher speeds they were 
providing.



my fvs318, really hate the thought of replacing it with something inferior.


fvs ? I take it the 318 is a router I can't reset my Netgear 314... 
well, I can turn it off and on but that doesn't do anything.


I was thinking the same thing but after doing some looking around I think 
routers have come a long way... better interfaces, better security, built 
in wireless, ... and companies like Belkin, Dlink, SMC offer lifetime 
warranties where as Netgear gives you a year. Besides, the last Netgear 
product I bought sucked = a Gb NIC. And, of course, they are very cheap. 
After rebates and sales I paid 50 bucks for my Netgear 314, which, four 
years ago was a great price. Now for a wireless with all the same features, 
and more the retail is going to be $52. Plus you get a modern up to date 
firewall  I think my 314s last flash was June of 01 of course I don't 
want to do this unless I am sure this is the problem.

Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[FORC5]

I recently replaced my Modem due to having to reset often, now the modem is 
fine and a couple of time a week need to reset my fvs318, really hate the 
thought of replacing it with something inferior. 

Wish I could just have it reboot everyday at 3 AM or something. :-)
Internet/LAN seem fine when the interne connection goes down though.
fp

At 07:59 AM 1/12/2006, JRS Poked the stick with:

>Could be going bad.   The last Linksys I lost did the same thing, as did
>the D-Link before that..  
>
>Really frustrating.  Intermittent, worked most of the time, had to reset
>(power cycle) the DSL modem and router every 2-3 or 3-4 days.  Reboot
>PC's, etc.
>
>Drove me nuts for a couple-three weeks.  Called SBC, they did line tests
>and claimed all was OK.  Finally sent someone to my house to check wiring
>up to the D-mark.  They still claimed all was OK on their end.  
>
>Everything would work fine for a while, then just slow down, or drop off,
>or not connect, or stop in the middle of downloads, you name it..
>
>Hate this consumer level stuff sometimes.  No easy way to diagnose the
>equipment that I know of.
>
>I finally swapped out the DSL modem as a test figuring it would be
>unlikely that 2 of them were bad.  Issues still happened, so I finally
>ended up buying a new router for 60 bucks from Office Depot.  
>
>Problem solved.
>
>Lost 2 of these cheap consumer routers in 3 years.
>
>
>
>>>I have been having lots of problems with my LAN.
>>>
>>>COX cable. New Motorola SB1020 modem... new coax cabling>>
>>>
>>>Netgear 314 Router>>
>>>
>>>   Belkin WAP
>>>
>>>Latitude 233MX acting as a print and FTP server
>>>
>>>  Dlink 8 port 10/100 switch>>>
>>> Netgear USB Print server
>>> I have a 10/100 bench box plugged in here
>>>
>>>   SMC 5 port 10/100/1000>>>
>>> PC with onboard Intel GB NIC
>>> PC with onboard Intel GB NIC
>>>
>>>  Lousy Internet connects, empty bandwidth, dial up page loading speeds 
>>>it has been going on for weeks. Plus My Gb LAN sucks. It should take 20 
>>>seconds to transfer a GB file and most of the time it takes  1 to 3 
>>>minutes. I keep resetting things, trying different configs and then every 
>>>now and again it pops back and everything is great for a few hours, or 
>>>until I unplug something who knows what the 9*!!XX is causing the problem. 
>>>It is intermittent, it doesn't seem to follow any pattern.
>>>
>-- 
>
>JRS   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Please remove  **X**  to reply...
>
>Facts do not cease to exist just
>because they are ignored.

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Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[Thane Sherrington (S)]

At 10:59 AM 12/01/2006, JRS wrote:


Lost 2 of these cheap consumer routers in 3 years.


Interesting.  I haven't seen that level of failure here at all.  Are you 
surge supressing your routers?


T 

Re: [H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[JRS]

Could be going bad.   The last Linksys I lost did the same thing, as did
the D-Link before that..  

Really frustrating.  Intermittent, worked most of the time, had to reset
(power cycle) the DSL modem and router every 2-3 or 3-4 days.  Reboot
PC's, etc.

Drove me nuts for a couple-three weeks.  Called SBC, they did line tests
and claimed all was OK.  Finally sent someone to my house to check wiring
up to the D-mark.  They still claimed all was OK on their end.  

Everything would work fine for a while, then just slow down, or drop off,
or not connect, or stop in the middle of downloads, you name it..

Hate this consumer level stuff sometimes.  No easy way to diagnose the
equipment that I know of.

I finally swapped out the DSL modem as a test figuring it would be
unlikely that 2 of them were bad.  Issues still happened, so I finally
ended up buying a new router for 60 bucks from Office Depot.  

Problem solved.

Lost 2 of these cheap consumer routers in 3 years.



>>I have been having lots of problems with my LAN.
>>
>>COX cable. New Motorola SB1020 modem... new coax cabling>>
>>
>>Netgear 314 Router>>
>>
>>   Belkin WAP
>>
>>Latitude 233MX acting as a print and FTP server
>>
>>  Dlink 8 port 10/100 switch>>>
>> Netgear USB Print server
>> I have a 10/100 bench box plugged in here
>>
>>   SMC 5 port 10/100/1000>>>
>> PC with onboard Intel GB NIC
>> PC with onboard Intel GB NIC
>>
>>  Lousy Internet connects, empty bandwidth, dial up page loading speeds 
>>it has been going on for weeks. Plus My Gb LAN sucks. It should take 20 
>>seconds to transfer a GB file and most of the time it takes  1 to 3 
>>minutes. I keep resetting things, trying different configs and then every 
>>now and again it pops back and everything is great for a few hours, or 
>>until I unplug something who knows what the 9*!!XX is causing the problem. 
>>It is intermittent, it doesn't seem to follow any pattern.
>>
-- 

JRS   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Please remove  **X**  to reply...

Facts do not cease to exist just
because they are ignored.

[H] How to Write Unmaintainable Code

[Steve Tomporowski]

This is worth a reprise, especially since the location changed:
 
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmain.html
 
Steve

RE: [H] Changing RAID settings and moving files

[Jason . Tozer]

Your solution is the best and safest way.

The only other way is if you dont have space on any other drives, you could
remove 2 drives (one at a time) and try and get the raid working without the
mirroring and then create a new raid from the removed discs and then copy
from one array to the other. Its very risky though.

Regards,

Jason Tozer
Database Analyst
London
Ext 1131 - 3SC.5


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gianmaria
Fontana di Sacculmino
Sent: 12 January 2006 12:57
To: The Hardware List
Subject: [H] Changing RAID settings and moving files


In an old PC I have 4 HDs in RAID 0+1.
I want to modify the configuration and reduce the HDs 
from 4 to 2 and the RAID from 0+1 to 1 (mirror only)

First problem is that I'm not sure which of the HDs are 
dedicated to striping and which to mirror (they are 
identical drives) so I  cannot identify them.

Second problem is that I would like to have the data only 
in 2 HDs (mirror only) and don't know the way to get this. 
There is still  plenty of space in all drives so this is not 
going to be a problem.

The only solution I can imagine is to copy/move all files 
on a separate external drive, removing two of the 4 drives, 
and rebuilding the array only with mirror.
Can you suggest a better way?

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[H] Changing RAID settings and moving files

[Gianmaria Fontana di Sacculmino]

In an old PC I have 4 HDs in RAID 0+1.
I want to modify the configuration and reduce the HDs 
from 4 to 2 and the RAID from 0+1 to 1 (mirror only)

First problem is that I'm not sure which of the HDs are 
dedicated to striping and which to mirror (they are 
identical drives) so I  cannot identify them.

Second problem is that I would like to have the data only 
in 2 HDs (mirror only) and don't know the way to get this. 
There is still  plenty of space in all drives so this is not 
going to be a problem.

The only solution I can imagine is to copy/move all files 
on a separate external drive, removing two of the 4 drives, 
and rebuilding the array only with mirror.
Can you suggest a better way?

-- 
Gianmaria Fontana di Sacculmino,
PGP Keys: RSA 0x34BE0F71 - DH/DSS 0xF6C7AFAB
Thawte Web of Trust notary

[H] Bad Netgear 314 ?

[Winterlight]

I have been having lots of problems with my LAN.

COX cable. New Motorola SB1020 modem... new coax cabling>>

Netgear 314 Router>>

  Belkin WAP

   Latitude 233MX acting as a print and FTP server

 Dlink 8 port 10/100 switch>>>
Netgear USB Print server
I have a 10/100 bench box plugged in here

  SMC 5 port 10/100/1000>>>
PC with onboard Intel GB NIC
PC with onboard Intel GB NIC

 Lousy Internet connects, empty bandwidth, dial up page loading speeds 
it has been going on for weeks. Plus My Gb LAN sucks. It should take 20 
seconds to transfer a GB file and most of the time it takes  1 to 3 
minutes. I keep resetting things, trying different configs and then every 
now and again it pops back and everything is great for a few hours, or 
until I unplug something who knows what the 9*!!XX is causing the problem. 
It is intermittent, it doesn't seem to follow any pattern.


I have been trying to solve this for a while. It is not COX, it is not my 
modem, nor any cabling all that has been replaced with factory CAT 7 
stuff. and new coaxial runs. It is not software...same thing happens in 
secondary boot ins that are fresh installs with no protection.


I am starting to think it has to be the router but I would think it 
would just die... not go bad like this.. a low lingering death??? There is 
no way to reboot a 314 other then to re-flash which I guess I can try.


What confuses me is the lousy network transfers... intermittent. Shouldn't 
that be running directly across the SMC? I have the two Gb NIC PCs plugged 
into the SMC GB...switch Or is the router involved here in a regular 
transfer... the router, of course is 10/100. Could the router be screwing 
up the works.


To isolate the problem I tried running straight off the router with the 
switches turned off... but had the same Internet problems... that is when I 
decided to replace\ the modem.  But I was also have lousy LAN transfers 
...even for a 10/100. For example... just off the router to transfer a 
1.32GB file takes 2 minutes  21 seconds.


Then when I turned on the SMP and plugged one PC into the SMC and left one 
on the router it jumped to 2:57 . Finally I plugged both PCs into the Gb 
SMC and now the file takes 3:03 a few hours latter the same file 
transfers in 20 seconds. It's nuts... I don't know what the data is telling 
me!?!


I figure it is not software... it is not the NICs, the new cable modem, the 
new cabling the next thing it so replace the router anybody know 
anything about the Belkin F5D7231-4 . It makes since for me to get Belkin 
since I have the WAP which I can plug into it and extend range.


This problem has been driving me nuts anybody have any thoughts, 
comments