RE: [H] -OT- Gas
Okay...we'll see what history has to say about it. Wait til the end of the year or early next year. It was easy to predict that gas prices would have dropped now, and Eli Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You make it seem like it's a political move, that somehow the oil industry wants the GOP to stay in power. Its obvious that the high price of oil earlier in the year was caused by the instability of the middle east causing fear and speculation which has all been solved. Just look what Mike O'Connor said: The reason prices are going down so far so fast is that they shouldn't have been that high in the first place. Two reasons they were: fear and speculation, says Mike O'Connor, president of the Virginia Petroleum, Convenience and Grocery Association. Just cause this strange coincidence happened during the last election cycle means nothing. -Original Message- I think we should go crazy driving, because I'd be after Nov. the price will go back up! :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not go crazy ot, just checking gas prices around the country. Just paid $1.95/gallon. :)Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
Re: [H] -OT- Gas
At 04:47 PM 9/20/2006, you wrote: Let's not go crazy ot, just checking gas prices around the country. Just paid $1.95/gallon. :) $2.05 for the ethanol stuff here in Iowa. -- JW
[H] Re: -OT- Gas
I was at the pump recently in VA reg. was 2.09 On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 23:32:52 GMT Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should go crazy driving, because I'd be after Nov. the price will go back up! :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's not go crazy ot, just checking gas prices around the country. Just paid $1.95/gallon. :) Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -- C L Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Today is a moment for you to clip yet another strand from the rope of earth, so that when he returns you won't be tied up.
RE: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [H] -OT- Gas
$2.16 for regular here in SC.
Re: [H] Office corrections ?
You can find it under Tools | Track changes in Word 2003 and I think similar in previous versions. Jamie FORC5 wrote: do not know but will check it out thanks At 05:43 PM 9/20/2006, Ben Ruset Poked the stick with: Isn't that part of the Word commenting and collaboration features? FORC5 wrote: I have a friend sent me a word doc that had it's spelling and grammar corrected with the corrections in red with a summation off to the right. I have uploaded to HWG FTP if anyone wants to take a peek. He wants me to install sw to do this but I am not aware of any. I know office will correct spelling and grammar with the corrections in red I think is what he is after. any pointers appreciated. fp
Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [H] -OT- Gas
Where in SC are you, Bobby? Bobby Heid wrote: :: $2.16 for regular here in SC.
Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [H] -OT- Gas
Greenville. Bobby Heid wrote: :: Lexington, you? :: :: Bobby :: :: -Original Message- :: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :: [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. :: Martin Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:33 AM :: To: The Hardware List :: Subject: Re: [SPAM SUSPECT] Re: [H] -OT- Gas :: Importance: Low :: :: :: Where in SC are you, Bobby? :: :: Bobby Heid wrote: $2.16 for regular here in SC.
[H] Understanding Conroe
I am going to be updating my P4 3.4 box to a Conroe setup in the next six months. The only thing I'm waiting for is for things to shake out, and seasoned boards to appear. But there are some things I am not clear about. I am currently using a dual Xeon 3.06 @ 533FSB as my primary workstation. Does a single dual core, Conroe processor have the same responsiveness as two physical processors? Does it have the same independence... i.e. no single out of control process can bring down the system? Is there a noticeable difference in use between Conroe dual core, and a dual Xeon setup? For RAM I need DDR-2 capable of supporting 1066MHz FSB ? thanks
RE: [H] Understanding Conroe
From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Understanding Conroe Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:00:20 -0700 I am going to be updating my P4 3.4 box to a Conroe setup in the next six months. The only thing I'm waiting for is for things to shake out, and seasoned boards to appear. But there are some things I am not clear about. I am currently using a dual Xeon 3.06 @ 533FSB as my primary workstation. Does a single dual core, Conroe processor have the same responsiveness as two physical processors? Core2 should be percievably faster. Does it have the same independence... i.e. no single out of control process can bring down the system? That's more an OS issue than a CPU and how it utilizes two CPUs. Core2 will not be any less reliable in this regard. For RAM I need DDR-2 capable of supporting 1066MHz FSB ? Core2's fsb is 1066Mhz. The memory supported by core2 compatible chipsets go as high as DDR2-800.
RE: [H] Understanding Conroe
Nope, just 800 for now. Look for DDR2 PC6400. All in all, due to Conroe's vastly superior IPC, your dual 3.06 would probably be bested by even an E6300. What is extreme about the extreme that makes them cost so much more For example = Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz LGA 775 - Retail at Newegg is a grand. Which is something I might do if it performs like two physical processors. But it is twice the price of an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail why?
[H] Experiences using LCD monitors for Gaming/Flight Sims
I'm working on reworking my office/gaming/TV combo room. I have a few 21 and 19 CRT monitors I want to replace (get rid of!) to save space. I'm have been looking at LCD monitors recently, trying to get the lingo and facts down on them. Reviewing specs like Response Time needing to be low (2ms, 5ms, 8ms, etc), contrast ratio needing to be high (700:1, 600:1, 500:1, etc), brightness needing to be high (270 cd/m2, 300 cd/m2, etc), native resolutions needing to be in the range I like to play the game, and having a DVI connection. I know there have been issues in the past with gaming and LCD monitors with things like ghosting and color but I just don't have any experience with gaming on an LCD monitor. Are many of you on the list gaming using LCD monitors? How do you like it? I would be interested in reading about your experience with it compared to the CRT or anything you can share from experience I need to look out for. I have looked at some widescreen options but I think that might frak up some of the views in gaming if the resolution is not supported. I have been looking at 19's although I have a 21 CRT. I'm not sure of this but I think I read that a 21 inch CRT is comparable to a 20 inch LCD because of how they measure the LCD screen, not sure on that. Don't want to lose too much of my viewable screen since I'm used to a 21 for gaming and flight simulation but I have to consolidate some space here. The brite screen looking monitors look very nice, I'm wondering if they are worth the price. Kids in the house make you need to reorganize, at least for me! Thanks in advance for your input if you have any! :-)
RE: [H] Understanding Conroe
Because top binned parts from both AMD and Intel are always $1k (currently FX-62 and X6800). When the quad-core Kentsfield is released in November, it should also be at the $1k spot. The XE series have historically had unlocked multipliers, which of course is very useful if you intend to overclock. What is extreme about the extreme that makes them cost so much more For example = Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz LGA 775 - Retail at Newegg is a grand. Which is something I might do if it performs like two physical processors. But it is twice the price of an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail why?
[H] Acrobat 5 install issue...
Hey, Sorry for the delay in getting back to you all. I ended up reinstalling XP. I installed Acrobat 5.0 right after a clean install of XP Pro and it installed fine. Not sure what was going on earlier. I would love to be able to upgrade to the latest version, I just see it happening here. They say that it works for what we use it for, and it does. But still. LOL. Thanks, Bobby
RE: [H] Understanding Conroe
It's faster :) Nothing different about it other than 300 more mhz. The smart buy is to get the cheapest model with 4MB of L2 cache, they overclock well if you're into that sort of thing, if not you're still getting 80-90% of the performance of the Extreme for 1/4th the cost. From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Understanding Conroe Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:52:01 -0700 Nope, just 800 for now. Look for DDR2 PC6400. All in all, due to Conroe's vastly superior IPC, your dual 3.06 would probably be bested by even an E6300. What is extreme about the extreme that makes them cost so much more For example = Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz LGA 775 - Retail at Newegg is a grand. Which is something I might do if it performs like two physical processors. But it is twice the price of an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail why?
Re: [H] Understanding Conroe
And in high demand! We went through about 5 builds just last week that were x6800 Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:16:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Understanding Conroe It's faster :) Nothing different about it other than 300 more mhz. The smart buy is to get the cheapest model with 4MB of L2 cache, they overclock well if you're into that sort of thing, if not you're still getting 80-90% of the performance of the Extreme for 1/4th the cost. From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Understanding Conroe Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:52:01 -0700 Nope, just 800 for now. Look for DDR2 PC6400. All in all, due to Conroe's vastly superior IPC, your dual 3.06 would probably be bested by even an E6300. What is extreme about the extreme that makes them cost so much more For example = Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz LGA 775 - Retail at Newegg is a grand. Which is something I might do if it performs like two physical processors. But it is twice the price of an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail why?
Re: [H] Understanding Conroe
At 01:19 PM 9/21/2006, you wrote: And in high demand! We went through about 5 builds just last week that were x6800 Oddly enough, extreme editions hold there value in the used (Ebay) market place far better then standard processor. I have been tracking P4 3.4 extreme editions on Ebay for a few months, more out of curiosity then any thing else. I am shocked by how much people are paying for these...anywhere from 450 to 750! I suspect that this is because people who decide to upgrade , two years into their current rig, rather then buy new, want the fastest processor that their board supports. Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless -Original Message- From: Hayes Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 16:16:12 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Understanding Conroe It's faster :) Nothing different about it other than 300 more mhz. The smart buy is to get the cheapest model with 4MB of L2 cache, they overclock well if you're into that sort of thing, if not you're still getting 80-90% of the performance of the Extreme for 1/4th the cost. From: Winterlight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: RE: [H] Understanding Conroe Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:52:01 -0700 Nope, just 800 for now. Look for DDR2 PC6400. All in all, due to Conroe's vastly superior IPC, your dual 3.06 would probably be bested by even an E6300. What is extreme about the extreme that makes them cost so much more For example = Intel Core 2 Extreme X6800 2.93GHz LGA 775 - Retail at Newegg is a grand. Which is something I might do if it performs like two physical processors. But it is twice the price of an Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor - Retail why?
RE: [H] Understanding Conroe
I suspect that this is because people who decide to upgrade , two years into their current rig, rather then buy new, want the fastest processor that their board supports. I'm betting that it has more to do with the fact that XE series chips have unlocked multipliers, making them good candidates for overclocking and specialty projects. Greg
RE: [H] another weird bug
PSU Mark Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. [Original Message] From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Date: 9/21/2006 12:07:11 PM Subject: [H] another weird bug The other night because of the weather I unplugged my box, have done this b4 with no grief. In the AM it would not start, pushing power button created a momentary on and off kind of like if one just holds in the power button. Let it sit figuring I would look latter and when I came back it started but took a couple of power offs to actual boot and then I got a bios message that I was not properly shut down and bios was running in safe mode, enter and exit bios and all is well. Have not shut down since. clock was on so I figure battery would be OK. Have not checked caps yet, this mb was changed not to long ago because of bad caps, have a replacement fresh from Asus. A7N8X deluxe ( getting old ) I am reading this as a possible early warning of either MB or PSU failure, any observations appreciated. fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Last week I even forgot how to ride a bicycle.
[H] It is done...
I'm an Apple user... iMac, 20-inch, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iWork '06 preinstalled 250GB Serial ATA Drive SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) Apple Wireless Keyboard wireless Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English) ATI Radeon X1600/256MB VRAM 2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] It is done...
Sweet I've always wanted to get a Mac Mini to play with so I can learn all the Apple stuff. :) Just ain't done it yet.. but now that the Core2 Duo Mac Mini's are out.. it's even more tempting I'm an Apple user... iMac, 20-inch, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iWork '06 preinstalled 250GB Serial ATA Drive SuperDrive 8X (DVD+R DL/DVD±RW/CD-RW) Apple Wireless Keyboard wireless Mighty Mouse + Mac OS X (US English) ATI Radeon X1600/256MB VRAM 2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM - 2x1GB -- JRS[EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
Re: [H] Printer heads dry out update
So... has anyone tried this? My father-in-law has a CX4600 all-in-one that gets sporadic use and more often than not is clogged when he wants to use it. He knows to turn off the printer with it's on/off switch when it is not being used, yet it still clogs. It stopped working last week and after running the cleaning cycle a couple of times without success, the cartridges were showing as empty. Put in all new carts and the black does not print at all. Run a cleaning again, and still no black, but color works. Carts are now showing about 1/8 depleted. Grrr! Going to try the Windex on the photo page tomorrow. If that does not work then may try ordering the Maxpatchink.com cleaning kit. Jerry - Original Message - From: Al Anger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:50 AM Subject: [H] Printer heads dry out update Was in Comp-USA Saturday talking to an Epson rep. He said to spray a piece of photo paper with Windex and print a multi colored image to clean the heads. It sounds like it has potential. If anyone tries it, please let us know how it worked out. al (who's glad to have anything to offer this elite group)
[H] older system ?
working on a older asus p2-bx mb with win2k, do not see ACPI in the bios, any way to force it to auto shut off ? seems like I sort of remember there was but I forgot :-! fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Scotty. hurry. beam me uragg^*úþ NO CARRIER.
[H] Vista Chess ?
is there a version of the new Vista Chess game in for XP ? heard there was going to be curious fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Why is abbreviated such a long word?
