Re: [H] Core2 Duo Mobo....... redux........

2006-12-23 Thread Raul Limos

On 12/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


One reason we went with GTS is that GTX would have put us into a larger PS,
900w I think?  This would also mean that air cooling probably wouldn't have
been adequate.  When we added up the increased price from GTS to GTX (x2
due to sli), the larger PS and adding liquid cooling, the relatively small
increase in performance was mitigated by the very significant increase in
cost.



Still have headroom for overclocking the vid cards?


[H] Merry Christmas!

2006-12-23 Thread Thane Sherrington
Merry Christmas everyone!  And have a great New Year!  (Actually, go 
ahead and have a great entire 2007.) :)


T



Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread tmservo
Avast

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-Original Message-
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 7:52:29 
To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

I'm trying to build up a new Xmas PC for my mom. (I have to drive 600 miles 
tomorrow, so I'm in a hurry!)

What is the best AV to put on here? Is there any thing cheap or free that's 
good?  She's not very savvy, so updating needs to be easy (ie, automatic).

Thanks.  Oh, Merry Christmas, y'all! :)



Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
This looks good.  Thanks.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
Avast

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-Original Message-
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 7:52:29 
To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

I'm trying to build up a new Xmas PC for my mom. (I have to drive 600 miles 
tomorrow, so I'm in a hurry!)

What is the best AV to put on here? Is there any thing cheap or free that's 
good?  She's not very savvy, so updating needs to be easy (ie, automatic).

Thanks.  Oh, Merry Christmas, y'all! :)




Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 11:52 AM 23/12/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
What is the best AV to put on here? Is there any thing cheap or free 
that's good?  She's not very savvy, so updating needs to be easy 
(ie, automatic).


NOD32.  It's free, but it's cheap and it's the best I've found.

T 



Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
You meant to say It's not free, but  it's cheap, right? 

Does it have a boot-time scan like avast?

 Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=
At 11:52 AM 23/12/2006, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
What is the best AV to put on here? Is there any thing cheap or free 
that's good?  She's not very savvy, so updating needs to be easy 
(ie, automatic).

NOD32.  It's free, but it's cheap and it's the best I've found.

T 




Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
 Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

=

Does it have a boot-time scan like avast?

:I haven't use Avast - you mean does it scan on startup?  Yes, as 
:files load, it scans them.

It seems to interrupt the boot process (before windows loads) and scans all 
drives, sort of like a command-line scan prior to windows taking over the PC. I 
didn't spend much time reading it though, I just let it do it.


Re: [H] Merry Christmas!

2006-12-23 Thread Jeff Lane
And to you and yours, Thane, and to all of our list members a very Merry 
Christmas and a whoopingly great New Yearthe whole year as Thane says.


Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 7:40 AM
Subject: [H] Merry Christmas!


Merry Christmas everyone!  And have a great New Year!  (Actually, go ahead 
and have a great entire 2007.) :)


T






Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread Jeff Lane
I would suggest AVG. It has a boot time scan, is free, and, I think the best 
of many, paid ones included.


http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg75free_432a861.exe


Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software



 Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

=


Does it have a boot-time scan like avast?


:I haven't use Avast - you mean does it scan on startup?  Yes, as
:files load, it scans them.

It seems to interrupt the boot process (before windows loads) and scans 
all drives, sort of like a command-line scan prior to windows taking over 
the PC. I didn't spend much time reading it though, I just let it do it.






Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread Jeff Lane
OPsss. Red face. Forget my last message. I was thinking 
auto updates.


Jeff
(Senior blank moment expert)




I would suggest AVG. It has a boot time scan, is free, and, I think the 
best of many, paid ones included.


http://free.grisoft.com/softw/70free/setup/avg75free_432a861.exe


Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software



 Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

=


Does it have a boot-time scan like avast?


:I haven't use Avast - you mean does it scan on startup?  Yes, as
:files load, it scans them.

It seems to interrupt the boot process (before windows loads) and scans 
all drives, sort of like a command-line scan prior to windows taking over 
the PC. I didn't spend much time reading it though, I just let it do it.









[H] MSDN Library, August 06

2006-12-23 Thread Bobby Heid
Hey,

I had downloaded the three images for this library a while back.  I was
trying to install it on my system.  But I keep getting stuck during the
install because it cannot read \Program Files\MSDN\2006AUG\1033\shared.hxs.
I burned new disks from the original images and I still get problems.

Has anyone been able to install this version of the library? 

I tried to copy the CD to the HD and install from there, but it will still
not copy the file.  If any of you have installed it, could you possibly send
me a copy of this file?

Also, I can not find any of the MSDN Library downloads at MS.  It was my
understanding that were going to make the MSDN Library releases public now.
Did this change?

Thanks,
Bobby


RE: [H] MSDN Library, August 06 - SOLVED

2006-12-23 Thread Bobby Heid
I used Nero ImageDrive to mount the images, copied all of the files to one
directory and installed from there.  So no need for anyone to send me the
file.
 
But still, does anyone know if MS is now not allowing us non-MSDN members to
download the MSDN Libraries after they allowed us to?
 
Thanks,
Bobby

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:16 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] MSDN Library, August 06



Hey, 

I had downloaded the three images for this library a while back.  I was
trying to install it on my system.  But I keep getting stuck during the
install because it cannot read \Program Files\MSDN\2006AUG\1033\shared.hxs.
I burned new disks from the original images and I still get problems.

Has anyone been able to install this version of the library? 

I tried to copy the CD to the HD and install from there, but it will still
not copy the file.  If any of you have installed it, could you possibly send
me a copy of this file?

Also, I can not find any of the MSDN Library downloads at MS.  It was my
understanding that were going to make the MSDN Library releases public now.
Did this change?

Thanks, 
Bobby 



Re: [H] W98se questions

2006-12-23 Thread chuck


- Original Message - 
From: dhs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 5:24 PM
Subject: [H] W98se questions




Is there anyone on the list that can still discuss W98se?
I'd like to trade questions offline/backchannel.



The best booster I have found for clean installs of Windows 98 SE and 
Millennium is the Security Update CD from Microsoft dated February, 2004. 
I run this comprehensive automatic update (comparable to Auto Patcher for 
Windows XP) and then I proceed to download the rest of the updates from 
Microsoft. It would take a very long time to download all of the updates for 
98SE, Me or XP from Microsoft. I am very thankful for boosters such as these 
I have mentioned.


Just to give you an idea of how extensive the updates are for XP, I have 
about 2 GB of space used on Drive C after I install XP. After I update it I 
have around 7 GB of space used on Drive C. This is relative, of course. I 
would guess that 98SE uses about 500 MB freshly installed and around 700 MB 
after being updated and Millennium around 700 MB when freshly installed and 
around 1.2 GB after being updated. It seems the space required for all of 
the updates is far more space than is required for the initial install.


Chuck




RE: [H] MSDN Library, August 06 - SOLVED

2006-12-23 Thread Eli Allen
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=94596AF5-CC58-45AF-
A14B-DF627A31E783
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=94596AF5-CC58-45AF
-A14B-DF627A31E783displaylang=en displaylang=en

 

That seems to be the current version for download.  Hard to find though,
should be easier

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] MSDN Library, August 06 - SOLVED

 

I used Nero ImageDrive to mount the images, copied all of the files to one
directory and installed from there.  So no need for anyone to send me the
file.

 

But still, does anyone know if MS is now not allowing us non-MSDN members to
download the MSDN Libraries after they allowed us to?

 

Thanks,

Bobby

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:16 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] MSDN Library, August 06

Hey, 

I had downloaded the three images for this library a while back.  I was
trying to install it on my system.  But I keep getting stuck during the
install because it cannot read \Program Files\MSDN\2006AUG\1033\shared.hxs.
I burned new disks from the original images and I still get problems.

Has anyone been able to install this version of the library? 

I tried to copy the CD to the HD and install from there, but it will still
not copy the file.  If any of you have installed it, could you possibly send
me a copy of this file?

Also, I can not find any of the MSDN Library downloads at MS.  It was my
understanding that were going to make the MSDN Library releases public now.
Did this change?

Thanks, 
Bobby 



RE: [H] MSDN Library, August 06 - SOLVED

2006-12-23 Thread Bobby Heid
Thanks Eli,
 
I did find this, but did not think it was the same thing.  On further
inspection, I guess it is.  Downloading now.
 
Thanks,
Bobby

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eli Allen
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 9:56 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] MSDN Library, August 06 - SOLVED



http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=94596AF5-CC58-45AF-
A14B-DF627A31E783
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=94596AF5-CC58-45AF
-A14B-DF627A31E783displaylang=en displaylang=en

 

That seems to be the current version for download.  Hard to find though,
should be easier

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 5:02 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: RE: [H] MSDN Library, August 06 - SOLVED

 

I used Nero ImageDrive to mount the images, copied all of the files to one
directory and installed from there.  So no need for anyone to send me the
file.

 

But still, does anyone know if MS is now not allowing us non-MSDN members to
download the MSDN Libraries after they allowed us to?

 

Thanks,

Bobby

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobby Heid
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 3:16 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] MSDN Library, August 06

Hey, 

I had downloaded the three images for this library a while back.  I was
trying to install it on my system.  But I keep getting stuck during the
install because it cannot read \Program Files\MSDN\2006AUG\1033\shared.hxs.
I burned new disks from the original images and I still get problems.

Has anyone been able to install this version of the library? 

I tried to copy the CD to the HD and install from there, but it will still
not copy the file.  If any of you have installed it, could you possibly send
me a copy of this file?

Also, I can not find any of the MSDN Library downloads at MS.  It was my
understanding that were going to make the MSDN Library releases public now.
Did this change?

Thanks, 
Bobby 



Re: [H] Merry Christmas!

2006-12-23 Thread dhs
Yes. I'll share with this.
If all of you do not buy/own/get
Loreena McKennitt
An Acient Muse
some how,
Ur lame.  It is great.  Have a good sub-woof!
Happy New Year!
Best, from the NW GA hills!
Duncan


On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:36 , Jeff Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:


And to you and yours, Thane, and to all of our list members a very Merry 
Christmas and a whoopingly great New Yearthe whole year as Thane says.

Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 7:40 AM
Subject: [H] Merry Christmas!


 Merry Christmas everyone!  And have a great New Year!  (Actually, go ahead 
 and have a great entire 2007.) :)

 T

 






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RE: [H] Merry Christmas!

2006-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Yes, Seasons Greetings from LA as well :)



 [Original Message]
 From: Thane Sherrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Date: 12/23/2006 7:40:32 AM
 Subject: [H] Merry Christmas!

 Merry Christmas everyone!  And have a great New Year!  (Actually, go 
 ahead and have a great entire 2007.) :)

 T




Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

2006-12-23 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does this slow down boot time?


 [Original Message]
 From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Date: 12/23/2006 8:26:37 AM
 Subject: Re: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

 This looks good.  Thanks.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

 =
 Avast

 Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless  

 -Original Message-
 From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 7:52:29 
 To:The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] Free or Cheap AV Software

 I'm trying to build up a new Xmas PC for my mom. (I have to drive 600
miles tomorrow, so I'm in a hurry!)

 What is the best AV to put on here? Is there any thing cheap or free
that's good?  She's not very savvy, so updating needs to be easy (ie,
automatic).

 Thanks.  Oh, Merry Christmas, y'all! :)