[H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread rls
In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my old
Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when Intel drops
their prices. The old processor is single core, I will replace that with
either the dual or quad core.

 

It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual that
you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize the second
cpu.

 

This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do fresh
installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor in and
be off to the races?

 

Thanks

Bob 



Re: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in the same 
socket?  Is this common?


rls wrote:
:: In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my
:: old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when
:: Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core, I will
:: replace that with either the dual or quad core.
::
::
::
:: It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual
:: that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize
:: the second cpu.
::
::
::
:: This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do fresh
:: installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor
:: in and be off to the races?
::
::
::
:: Thanks
::
:: Bob 



RE: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Zulfiqar, Naushad
I can’t confirm this 100% but I think that you should be okay with the swap.  
Just pop it in, reboot and everything should be……….faster….



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rls
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:11 PM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] Swaping processors

 

In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my old Pentium 
2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when Intel drops their prices. 
The old processor is single core, I will replace that with either the dual or 
quad core.

 

It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual that you 
had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize the second cpu.

 

This new machine will run both XP and Vista – will I have to do fresh installs 
with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor in and be off to 
the races?

 

Thanks

Bob 



RE: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Zulfiqar, Naushad
The 975 Chipset motherboards (with the new revisions) support single core, 
hyperthreading, dual core and quad core processors.

All those processors are based on the LGA 775 socket, so only BIOS/Chipset 
support is required.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:56 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors

Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in the same 
socket?  Is this common?

rls wrote:
:: In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my
:: old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when
:: Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core, I will
:: replace that with either the dual or quad core.
::
::
::
:: It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual
:: that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize
:: the second cpu.
::
::
::
:: This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do fresh
:: installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor
:: in and be off to the races?
::
::
::
:: Thanks
::
:: Bob 




RE: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Greg Sevart
As does 965, NV 680i, RD600, and even some 945's (not QC). That is not to
say that any LGA775 chip will work on any LGA775 motherboard. This is
definitely not the case.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar, Naushad
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:17 AM
 To: The Hardware List
 Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
 
 The 975 Chipset motherboards (with the new revisions) support single core,
 hyperthreading, dual core and quad core processors.
 
 All those processors are based on the LGA 775 socket, so only BIOS/Chipset
support
 is required.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:56 PM
 To: The Hardware List
 Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors
 
 Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in the same
 socket?  Is this common?
 
 rls wrote:
 :: In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my
 :: old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when
 :: Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core, I will
 :: replace that with either the dual or quad core.
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual
 :: that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize
 :: the second cpu.
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do fresh
 :: installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor
 :: in and be off to the races?
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: Thanks
 ::
 :: Bob
 





RE: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Greg Sevart
If your 2.53 has hyperthreading as is enabled, you'll already have the MP
HAL installed. Even if it isn't, XP (and presumably Vista) can pick up the
change without a reinstall. I still prefer to do a clean slate install, but
it isn't required.

Greg


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rls
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:11 AM
To: 'The Hardware List'
Subject: [H] Swaping processors

In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my old
Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when Intel drops
their prices. The old processor is single core, I will replace that with
either the dual or quad core.

It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual that
you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize the second
cpu.

This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do fresh
installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor in and
be off to the races?

Thanks
Bob 




Re: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread tmservo
Right. Hell, there are 865 775 boards that will do core2, but you won't find an 
sis 661gx or a via pm800 lga775 that does :)


Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless  

-Original Message-
From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:39:35 
To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors

As does 965, NV 680i, RD600, and even some 945's (not QC). That is not to
say that any LGA775 chip will work on any LGA775 motherboard. This is
definitely not the case.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar, Naushad
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:17 AM
 To: The Hardware List
 Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
 
 The 975 Chipset motherboards (with the new revisions) support single core,
 hyperthreading, dual core and quad core processors.
 
 All those processors are based on the LGA 775 socket, so only BIOS/Chipset
support
 is required.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:56 PM
 To: The Hardware List
 Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors
 
 Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in the same
 socket?  Is this common?
 
 rls wrote:
 :: In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my
 :: old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when
 :: Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core, I will
 :: replace that with either the dual or quad core.
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual
 :: that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize
 :: the second cpu.
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do fresh
 :: installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor
 :: in and be off to the races?
 ::
 ::
 ::
 :: Thanks
 ::
 :: Bob
 






Re: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Ok...I just want to make sure I understand you guys.  You're basically 
saying that I can go buy a new mobo that has PCI-X for graphics that I can 
drop my P4 3.0 GHz CPU into and then later upgrade that puppy to dual/quad 
core?  I'd have to upgrade both memory,  graphics card, and PS right?  Only 
memory at first, though, right?


I'm asking because i'm starting to get a little tired of sucking so much 
hind tit, these days.  However, I need my upgrades to be very, very 
meaningful, or such I say impactful.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:: Right. Hell, there are 865 775 boards that will do core2, but you
:: won't find an sis 661gx or a via pm800 lga775 that does :)
::
::
:: Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
::
:: -Original Message-
:: From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:39:35
:: To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
:: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
::
:: As does 965, NV 680i, RD600, and even some 945's (not QC). That is
:: not to
:: say that any LGA775 chip will work on any LGA775 motherboard. This is
:: definitely not the case.
::
::: -Original Message-
::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar, Naushad
::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:17 AM
::: To: The Hardware List
::: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
:::
::: The 975 Chipset motherboards (with the new revisions) support
::: single core, hyperthreading, dual core and quad core processors.
:::
::: All those processors are based on the LGA 775 socket, so only
::: BIOS/Chipset
:: support
::: is required.
:::
:::
:::
::: -Original Message-
::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:56 PM
::: To: The Hardware List
::: Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors
:::
::: Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in
::: the same socket?  Is this common?
:::
::: rls wrote:
: In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use
: my old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April
: when Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core,
: I will replace that with either the dual or quad core.
:
:
:
: It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to
: dual that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly
: recognize the second cpu.
:
:
:
: This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do
: fresh installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new
: processor in and be off to the races?
:
:
:
: Thanks
:
: Bob 



RE: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Greg Sevart
Yes, provided that you buy a mobo based on the 965, 680i, RD600, or later
975 rev chipsets, and your current proc is LGA775 and not s478.

You almost certainly keep your PS. Memory and graphics would need upgraded
immediately.

Also, PCIe is the shorthand used for PCI Express...PCI-X refers to something
quite different. :)

Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
 Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:37 AM
 To: The Hardware List
 Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors
 
 Ok...I just want to make sure I understand you guys.  You're basically
 saying that I can go buy a new mobo that has PCI-X for graphics that I can
 drop my P4 3.0 GHz CPU into and then later upgrade that puppy to dual/quad
 core?  I'd have to upgrade both memory,  graphics card, and PS right?
Only
 memory at first, though, right?
 
 I'm asking because i'm starting to get a little tired of sucking so much
 hind tit, these days.  However, I need my upgrades to be very, very
 meaningful, or such I say impactful.
 
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 :: Right. Hell, there are 865 775 boards that will do core2, but you
 :: won't find an sis 661gx or a via pm800 lga775 that does :)
 ::
 ::
 :: Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
 ::
 :: -Original Message-
 :: From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 :: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:39:35
 :: To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 :: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
 ::
 :: As does 965, NV 680i, RD600, and even some 945's (not QC). That is
 :: not to
 :: say that any LGA775 chip will work on any LGA775 motherboard. This is
 :: definitely not the case.
 ::
 ::: -Original Message-
 ::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 ::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar, Naushad
 ::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:17 AM
 ::: To: The Hardware List
 ::: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
 :::
 ::: The 975 Chipset motherboards (with the new revisions) support
 ::: single core, hyperthreading, dual core and quad core processors.
 :::
 ::: All those processors are based on the LGA 775 socket, so only
 ::: BIOS/Chipset
 :: support
 ::: is required.
 :::
 :::
 :::
 ::: -Original Message-
 ::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
 ::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
 ::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:56 PM
 ::: To: The Hardware List
 ::: Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors
 :::
 ::: Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in
 ::: the same socket?  Is this common?
 :::
 ::: rls wrote:
 : In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use
 : my old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April
 : when Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core,
 : I will replace that with either the dual or quad core.
 :
 :
 :
 : It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to
 : dual that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly
 : recognize the second cpu.
 :
 :
 :
 : This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do
 : fresh installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new
 : processor in and be off to the races?
 :
 :
 :
 : Thanks
 :
 : Bob





Re: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh
 Ok...I just want to make sure I understand you guys.  You're basically 
 saying that I can go buy a new mobo that has PCI-X for graphics that I can 
 drop my P4 3.0 GHz CPU into and then later upgrade that puppy to dual/quad 
 core?  I'd have to upgrade both memory,  graphics card, and PS right?  Only 
 memory at first, though, right?
 
 I'm asking because i'm starting to get a little tired of sucking so much 
 hind tit, these days.  However, I need my upgrades to be very, very 
 meaningful, or such I say impactful.

Not unless your current CPU is a S-478, in which you're kinda SOL since the 
Socket 478 PCI-E mobos aren't all that great.

A nice go between mobo would be the Asrock 775 VSTA, which takes an LGA775 
CPU (both P4s and Core 2s) and gives you the flexibility of AGP + PCI-E, DDR + 
DDR2. It won't overclock quite as well as say an eVGA 680i or a Gigabyte DS3, 
but people seem to like it.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813157092

So I guess you could say no the memory and graphics upgrades. What PSU do you 
have currently? If it's a 20-pin with a strong 12V rail, you should be alright 
since you can get MOLEX - 6-pin PCI-E adapters to sate a more power hungry PCI-
E card and most 24-pin mobos don't mind running with just 20-pins. You'll have 
to watch out for PCI-E graphics cards that don't have a separate power 
connector though, since they'll try to suck power from the unconnected 4 ATX 
pins.

I guess one last thing would be that it might be beneficial to dump your older 
RAM now before RAM prices start to dip even further. I did exactly that in Dec 
and got top dollar for my Crucial DDR400 - switched to Kingston DDR2-667.

Hope this helps :)

--
Jin-Wei Tioh
Without C, there'd be BASI, PASAL, and OBOL











RE: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread rls
I had a 300x series PCI-e ATI video card when my Epox died. So at this stage
I just had to buy memory and the board. Even though the board I bought was
pricey, I bought the open box version, which from Newegg saved me $55.32.
All the gadgets (100% were in the box) so if it boots I'm gold. Buying from
Newegg was the only reason I went with an open box as I have never had 1
issue rma'ing anything with them. 

In fact not one package of wire, cables, 1000 other parts had been opened.
Either someone refused shipment or cracked the lid, saw 1000 parts and
figured they were over their head and returned it. Upon close inspection not
one part had been opened from its original packing, not even the
motherboard. 

So for me, this purchase should have me set up for quite some time.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:37 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors

Ok...I just want to make sure I understand you guys.  You're basically 
saying that I can go buy a new mobo that has PCI-X for graphics that I can 
drop my P4 3.0 GHz CPU into and then later upgrade that puppy to dual/quad 
core?  I'd have to upgrade both memory,  graphics card, and PS right?  Only 
memory at first, though, right?

I'm asking because i'm starting to get a little tired of sucking so much 
hind tit, these days.  However, I need my upgrades to be very, very 
meaningful, or such I say impactful.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:: Right. Hell, there are 865 775 boards that will do core2, but you
:: won't find an sis 661gx or a via pm800 lga775 that does :)
::
::
:: Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
::
:: -Original Message-
:: From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:39:35
:: To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
:: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
::
:: As does 965, NV 680i, RD600, and even some 945's (not QC). That is
:: not to
:: say that any LGA775 chip will work on any LGA775 motherboard. This is
:: definitely not the case.
::
::: -Original Message-
::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar, Naushad
::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:17 AM
::: To: The Hardware List
::: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
:::
::: The 975 Chipset motherboards (with the new revisions) support
::: single core, hyperthreading, dual core and quad core processors.
:::
::: All those processors are based on the LGA 775 socket, so only
::: BIOS/Chipset
:: support
::: is required.
:::
:::
:::
::: -Original Message-
::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:56 PM
::: To: The Hardware List
::: Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors
:::
::: Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in
::: the same socket?  Is this common?
:::
::: rls wrote:
: In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use
: my old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April
: when Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core,
: I will replace that with either the dual or quad core.
:
:
:
: It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to
: dual that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly
: recognize the second cpu.
:
:
:
: This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do
: fresh installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new
: processor in and be off to the races?
:
:
:
: Thanks
:
: Bob 



Re: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread Jeff Lane
I sure there are some others out here that are wondering the same thing that 
I am. What MB did you buy that 1000 parts? Are you soldering the board 
yourself like a do-it-yourselfer? Please pardon if this is a really stupid 
question.


Jeff

- Original Message - 
From: rls [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors


I had a 300x series PCI-e ATI video card when my Epox died. So at this 
stage

I just had to buy memory and the board. Even though the board I bought was
pricey, I bought the open box version, which from Newegg saved me $55.32.
All the gadgets (100% were in the box) so if it boots I'm gold. Buying 
from

Newegg was the only reason I went with an open box as I have never had 1
issue rma'ing anything with them.

In fact not one package of wire, cables, 1000 other parts had been opened.
Either someone refused shipment or cracked the lid, saw 1000 parts and
figured they were over their head and returned it. Upon close inspection 
not

one part had been opened from its original packing, not even the
motherboard.

So for me, this purchase should have me set up for quite some time.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:37 PM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors

Ok...I just want to make sure I understand you guys.  You're basically
saying that I can go buy a new mobo that has PCI-X for graphics that I can
drop my P4 3.0 GHz CPU into and then later upgrade that puppy to dual/quad
core?  I'd have to upgrade both memory,  graphics card, and PS right? 
Only

memory at first, though, right?

I'm asking because i'm starting to get a little tired of sucking so much
hind tit, these days.  However, I need my upgrades to be very, very
meaningful, or such I say impactful.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:: Right. Hell, there are 865 775 boards that will do core2, but you
:: won't find an sis 661gx or a via pm800 lga775 that does :)
::
::
:: Sent via BlackBerry from Cingular Wireless
::
:: -Original Message-
:: From: Greg Sevart [EMAIL PROTECTED]
:: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 10:39:35
:: To:'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
:: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
::
:: As does 965, NV 680i, RD600, and even some 945's (not QC). That is
:: not to
:: say that any LGA775 chip will work on any LGA775 motherboard. This is
:: definitely not the case.
::
::: -Original Message-
::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulfiqar, Naushad
::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:17 AM
::: To: The Hardware List
::: Subject: RE: [H] Swaping processors
:::
::: The 975 Chipset motherboards (with the new revisions) support
::: single core, hyperthreading, dual core and quad core processors.
:::
::: All those processors are based on the LGA 775 socket, so only
::: BIOS/Chipset
:: support
::: is required.
:::
:::
:::
::: -Original Message-
::: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardware-
::: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin
::: Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:56 PM
::: To: The Hardware List
::: Subject: Re: [H] Swaping processors
:::
::: Which mobo lets you use a P4 and both dual and quad core CPUs in
::: the same socket?  Is this common?
:::
::: rls wrote:
: In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use
: my old Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April
: when Intel drops their prices. The old processor is single core,
: I will replace that with either the dual or quad core.
:
:
:
: It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to
: dual that you had to re-install the OS as it would not properly
: recognize the second cpu.
:
:
:
: This new machine will run both XP and Vista - will I have to do
: fresh installs with the new processor, or can I just pop the new
: processor in and be off to the races?
:
:
:
: Thanks
:
: Bob






Re: [H] Swaping processors

2007-02-07 Thread FORC5
I have always had to goto device manager/computer and update the driver to dual.
fp
hope this posts

At 07:11 AM 2/7/2007, rls Poked the stick with:
In the process of building a new pc. - To start with, I will use my old 
Pentium 2.53 ghz processor. I will replace that in April when Intel drops 
their prices. The old processor is single core, I will replace that with 
either the dual or quad core.
 
It used to be that if you were going from a single processor to dual that you 
had to re-install the OS as it would not properly recognize the second cpu.
 
This new machine will run both XP and Vista – will I have to do fresh installs 
with the new processor, or can I just pop the new processor in and be off to 
the races?
 
Thanks
Bob 

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[H] mail problems, update

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Edwards

Well, I have tried redoing the sendmail M4 file with no spam filters... no go
Still think it is DNS related, I have moved the DNS duties to my domain 
register.  Few days and I hope things will be back to normal.


Sorry for the slow action but not giving up Duncan. :)

Jim



RE: [H] Gurrr!

2007-02-07 Thread Mark Dodge
Lets see if this goes thru

Mark

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Edwards
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:50 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Gurrr!

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Send again Duncan

At 2/4/2007 12:22 PM, Jim Edwards wrote:
12:22
starting to see something different, not good but different.

At 2/4/2007 11:15 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:
time 11:15
At 2/4/2007 10:54 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:
EHLO



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RE: [H] Gurrr!

2007-02-07 Thread Hayes Elkins

:(



From: Mark Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Hardware List 
hardware@hardwaregroup.com

To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] Gurrr!
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:52:37 -0600

Lets see if this goes thru

Mark

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Edwards
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:50 AM
To: The Hardware List
Subject: Re: [H] Gurrr!

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Send again Duncan

At 2/4/2007 12:22 PM, Jim Edwards wrote:
12:22
starting to see something different, not good but different.

At 2/4/2007 11:15 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:
time 11:15
At 2/4/2007 10:54 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:
EHLO



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[H] Test test

2007-02-07 Thread tmservo
Just testing last one didn't go. Blah blah.  

Wondering how many poisoned and will sue over this chemical explosion here in KC
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Re: [H] Gurrr!

2007-02-07 Thread Hayes Elkins





From: Veech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [H] Gurrr!
Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 17:28:34 -0800

Hayes,  could you post to the HWG list for me as well, that I haven't been 
able to e-mail the list for over a month now.  I just tried to post about 
an hour ago, and see below for the error message.


thanks..

Veech

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testing... again!

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Subject: RE: [H] Gurrr!



Lets see if this goes thru

Mark

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Send again Duncan

At 2/4/2007 12:22 PM, Jim Edwards wrote:

12:22
starting to see something different, not good but different.

At 2/4/2007 11:15 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:

time 11:15
At 2/4/2007 10:54 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:

EHLO



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To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:23 PM
Subject: RE: [H] Gurrr!



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From: Mark Dodge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: 'The Hardware List' hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: RE: [H] Gurrr!
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 21:52:37 -0600

Lets see if this goes thru

Mark

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Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 11:50 AM
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Send again Duncan

At 2/4/2007 12:22 PM, Jim Edwards wrote:
12:22
starting to see something different, not good but different.

At 2/4/2007 11:15 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:
time 11:15
At 2/4/2007 10:54 AM, Jim Edwards wrote:
EHLO



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RE: [H] Test test

2007-02-07 Thread Bobby Heid
I'm testing too!

Bobby 

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Subject: [H] Test test

Just testing last one didn't go. Blah blah.  

Wondering how many poisoned and will sue over this chemical explosion here
in KC
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[H] XP Home network ?

2007-02-07 Thread FORC5
Glad I can finally :-} get a fix 

Is there anyway to force XP Home to remember log on and password on a local 
network ?  without adding their user name and password to the server ?
thanks
fp


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Re: [H] Gurrr!

2007-02-07 Thread Michael Resnick

I tried to send this @ 12:08PM.
It never made it, but it looks like megs are getting through now.


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Re: [H] Gurrr!

2007-02-07 Thread Scott Sipe

testing at 2:45AM EST

Scott

On Feb 4, 2007, at 7:07 PM, Michael Resnick wrote:


I tried to send this @ 12:08PM.
It never made it, but it looks like megs are getting through now.


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