Re: [H] Best Small business VPN Gateway??

2007-04-01 Thread Steve
I would go with Cisco every day, ignore the rest.  They may be cheaper or 
offer wizzo features but  for security, Cisco is always the clear winner. 
Depends where your priorities are.



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Subject: [H] Best Small business VPN Gateway??



Printed out a couple hundred pages of stuff, just getting more and more
confused.  :)

Any opinions on who is has the best?  Needs to be small business grade, 
not

home stuff

Aventail, SonicWall, Juniper , Cisco, Netgear, D-Link, Firebox, Check
Point, etc..

I kinda like the idea of the new SSL-VPN's, no client install needed, but
are they as good/OK compared to the IPsec VPN stuff??

The SSL-VPN appliances seem hot right now..

Leaning towards the Sonicwall or Juniper SA 700 right now.  :)
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Re: [H] {OT} Ban on plastic bags

2007-04-01 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 02:24 PM 31/03/2007, Al Anger wrote:

Canvas type bags; good size and with big handles. But that doesn't fit


In Turkey, in the late 60s and early 70s, they used mesh bags, which 
could be balled up and put in one's pocket but expanded enough to 
hold a good load of groceries (of course, they shop every day for 
food unlike North Americans.)



somehow tie into anti-communism Red Scare language; the purpose of the
story is to show mindset. How many millions of times every day does an
someone drop a facial tissue into the toilet; having just blown their
nose, to flush it away? Run the water while brushing the teeth? You get
the idea.


Why not run grey water from the sinks/shower into the toilet?

T 



[H] Google Introduces TiSP service

2007-04-01 Thread CW
:)

http://www.google.com/tisp/

Hilarious.


Re: [H] Google Introduces TiSP service

2007-04-01 Thread Brian Weeden

I was reading my daily feed from Google Reader and thought the whole
world had gone crazyuntil I realized what day it was.

My fav was the story about how Lawrence Lessig joined the board of
directors of the RIAA today.

On 4/1/07, CW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:)

http://www.google.com/tisp/

Hilarious.




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RE: [H] Google Introduces TiSP service

2007-04-01 Thread Mark Dodge
Yes April Fools jokes are rampant

Mark

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:)

http://www.google.com/tisp/

Hilarious.

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Re: [H] Best Small business VPN Gateway??

2007-04-01 Thread JRS

Well, they want less than 2 grand and they don't want VPN that uses a SW
client that needs to be installed which Cisco uses, as do many of the
others.  

Which is why I was scoping out the newish SSL-VPN stuff that uses the
browser secure socket layer.  Everyone has a browser on their PC.  :)  

They want 10 people to be able to remote in, but may need up to 25 VPN
access licenses or whatever.  :)

The choices are mind boggling, so was hoping one of you guys had already
set some of these up for clients or whatever.  :)




I would go with Cisco every day, ignore the rest.  They may be cheaper or 
offer wizzo features but  for security, Cisco is always the clear winner. 
Depends where your priorities are.


- Original Message - 
From: JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 12:38 AM
Subject: [H] Best Small business VPN Gateway??


 Printed out a couple hundred pages of stuff, just getting more and more
 confused.  :)

 Any opinions on who is has the best?  Needs to be small business grade, 
 not
 home stuff

 Aventail, SonicWall, Juniper , Cisco, Netgear, D-Link, Firebox, Check
 Point, etc..

 I kinda like the idea of the new SSL-VPN's, no client install needed, but
 are they as good/OK compared to the IPsec VPN stuff??

 The SSL-VPN appliances seem hot right now..

 Leaning towards the Sonicwall or Juniper SA 700 right now.  :)
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Re: [H] Google Introduces TiSP service

2007-04-01 Thread Rick Glazier

I was in the home of an EE for the local electric company, (many years ago)
and saw they were trying to develop Internet access through the power company
system.

It apparently never went too well, since when the same power company
needed access to my brothers home heating and cooling system for a study,
they tapped into his verizon DSL...  None of my story is April fools day 
stuff...

Rick Glazier

From: Mark Dodge

Yes April Fools jokes are rampant


On Behalf Of CW
Subject: [H] Google Introduces TiSP service 
http://www.google.com/tisp/




Re: [H] Google Introduces TiSP service

2007-04-01 Thread Jin-Wei Tioh

At 09:42 AM 4/1/2007, you wrote:

I was reading my daily feed from Google Reader and thought the whole
world had gone crazyuntil I realized what day it was.

My fav was the story about how Lawrence Lessig joined the board of
directors of the RIAA today.

--
Brian


You should see the headlines on Slashdot :P

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