Re: [H] Dumb Dell ?

2007-09-09 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 10:13 PM 08/09/2007, Ben Ruset wrote:
AFAIK, the diag cd is the same as what's on the diag partition. I 
think Dell started putting the partition there to help their techs out:


You are using the word tech loosely.  They are screen readers and 
flow chart followers.


T 



Re: [H] Dumb Dell ?

2007-09-09 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 10:13 PM 08/09/2007, Ben Ruset wrote:
AFAIK, the diag cd is the same as what's on the diag partition. I 
think Dell started putting the partition there to help their techs out:


And I forgot, their diagnostic software isn't worth the hard drive 
space it's stored on.  By the time it diagnoses a failure, the machine is shot.


T 



[H] sirius internet bradcast NFL games?

2007-09-09 Thread Jim Edwards

tell me it is so.



[H] Thinkpad wireless problems

2007-09-09 Thread Winterlight
I am trying to troubleshoot a Thinkpad R51 ...circa 2004. It is 
running XP PRO SP2, and it is fully patched. The problem is that it 
will not connect to any encrypted wireless network. It has no problem 
connecting wirelessly to a unprotected network, but it refuses to 
connect to a protected network any protected network, even one it 
previously had no trouble connecting to.


At first I thought it had something to do with the IBM wireless 
adaptor, so I updated it to the latest posted drivers. That didn't 
help but it did cause all the old wireless addresses to disappear 
from XP wireless network setup. There was one local protected address 
that was working on that list but now it won't even connect to 
that protected network.


I'm stumped...any thoughts. 



RE: [H] Thinkpad wireless problems

2007-09-09 Thread Bobby Heid
I know that this is probably a stupid question, but does the wireless
adapter support the encryption that the router(s) is using?  That is, if the
router is using WAP2 and the adapter can only use WEP, then it cannot
connect.

Bobby

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Subject: [H] Thinkpad wireless problems 

I am trying to troubleshoot a Thinkpad R51 ...circa 2004. It is 
running XP PRO SP2, and it is fully patched. The problem is that it 
will not connect to any encrypted wireless network. It has no problem 
connecting wirelessly to a unprotected network, but it refuses to 
connect to a protected network any protected network, even one it 
previously had no trouble connecting to.

At first I thought it had something to do with the IBM wireless 
adaptor, so I updated it to the latest posted drivers. That didn't 
help but it did cause all the old wireless addresses to disappear 
from XP wireless network setup. There was one local protected address 
that was working on that list but now it won't even connect to 
that protected network.

I'm stumped...any thoughts. 




RE: [H] Thinkpad wireless problems

2007-09-09 Thread Winterlight
Yes, it is 2004 XP SP2 Thinkpad, and as I wrote... it was working 
with encryption  it just stopped working on anything new.



At 04:17 PM 9/9/2007, you wrote:

I know that this is probably a stupid question, but does the wireless
adapter support the encryption that the router(s) is using?  That is, if the
router is using WAP2 and the adapter can only use WEP, then it cannot
connect.

Bobby




RE: [H] Thinkpad wireless problems

2007-09-09 Thread Winterlight



Can other stuff connect to that router (with encryption)?  It could posiibly
be the router.
Bobby


I wrote that it can not connect to any protected router... but has no 
problem connecting to any unprotected routers.





RE: [H] Thinkpad wireless problems

2007-09-09 Thread Eli Allen
So it can't connect to routers that use WEP along with routers that use WPA
or have you not tested against WEP?

WPA uses other hardware on the wireless chipset and other software then what
WEP uses so one could be broken while the other works

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Can other stuff connect to that router (with encryption)?  It could
posiibly
be the router.
Bobby

I wrote that it can not connect to any protected router... but has no 
problem connecting to any unprotected routers.





RE: [H] Thinkpad wireless problems

2007-09-09 Thread Bobby Heid
I'm sorry. What's going in is just not registering tonight!

I do not know what that might be other than maybe the adapter going bad.

Bobby

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Can other stuff connect to that router (with encryption)?  It could
posiibly
be the router.
Bobby

I wrote that it can not connect to any protected router... but has no 
problem connecting to any unprotected routers.





RE: [H] Thinkpad wireless problems

2007-09-09 Thread Winterlight



WPA uses other hardware on the wireless chipset and other software then what
WEP uses so one could be broken while the other works


True, I haven't tried WEP... is anybody still using that.
It's home base is WPA personal 2, but it couldn't connect to my WPA 
Personal 2. I tried updating the IBM driver. Once I did that, all the 
saved profiles disappeared. Now it can't connect to it's home base or mine.