Re[2]: [H] Re: Nod32 or Kaspsersky ?

2007-10-29 Thread Joe User
Hello DHSinclair,

Sunday, October 28, 2007, 5:19:39 PM, you wrote:

 fp,
 Kaspersky it the Top rated AV to run IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO USE NOD32.
 This is clear even on the Wilders Forum.
 These two seemed to locked in a death-grip of some kind.
 My read is that Kaspersky deals more with frequent dl's of vdefs, AND,
 nod32 uses (what they believe is) their much better Heuristics to help
 protect users.  The battle rages on!   I just do not know ATM.
 This is where I is believe the discussion is focused.  UB the Judge!
 I know where I live. Zero hits since 02/2007.
 (Personally, on my un-licensed machines, I run Anti-Vir!)
 Best,
 Duncan

Well I 'gotta' secret to share, you can run NOD and KAV on the same
machine without issue, right now. I used to be a KAV supporter - I am
not anymore for a number of reasons. Some of which include: price
(NOD32 is cheaper), support (NOD32 is better in my experience),
performance (NOD32 runs faster and cleaner), and stability (Less weird
oddities and bugs). I tried a test of my own sometime ago... I cloned
a drive with major infection. I did the clone drive first with KAV and
then with NOD32. Then I did the original drive first with NOD32 then
with KAV. Guess what NOD32 picked up a bit more then KAV - not enough
to throw a 'hissy' about but when I factor in everything else above...


-- 
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...



Re[2]: [H] Re: Nod32 or Kaspsersky ?

2007-10-29 Thread DHSinclair

Joe,
Thanks for the reply.  I have read many stories on the Wilders security 
forum that support your observations.  I just listened to the List banter 
of the last 2-3 years regarding the various AV products. I was using an old 
copy of CA's ETrust (?) but it went obsolete (no vdefs!). I decided to give 
nod32 a 30 day trial. I liked how tiny it was and non-bloated. Quick, 
quiet, efficient and really strong.  Since my initials, I went with their 
enterprise edition and my LAN is quiet and protected.  Will I get hit with 
something? Sure. Any AV available is not 100%, but for now I'll trust NOD32 
for the next 2 years.  When the v3.0 AV is finally released, I'll give it a 
whirl on one of my machines just for a looksee.
I do like Eset's use of a fairly strong vdef database and a good heuristics 
module that does a good job of behavioral analysis. I also like that Eset 
does AV, malware, rootkits, spyware, and trojans all in one kit. Not a true 
HIPS, but close.  There is a new full security suite (w/firewall) due out 
soon too. Not ready to test that though. Works for me, but as always, YMMV.

Best,
Duncan

At 06:09 10/29/2007 -0600, JoeUser wrote:

Hello DHSinclair,

Sunday, October 28, 2007, 5:19:39 PM, you wrote:

snip
Well I 'gotta' secret to share, you can run NOD and KAV on the same
machine without issue, right now. I used to be a KAV supporter - I am
not anymore for a number of reasons. Some of which include: price
(NOD32 is cheaper), support (NOD32 is better in my experience),
performance (NOD32 runs faster and cleaner), and stability (Less weird
oddities and bugs). I tried a test of my own sometime ago... I cloned
a drive with major infection. I did the clone drive first with KAV and
then with NOD32. Then I did the original drive first with NOD32 then
with KAV. Guess what NOD32 picked up a bit more then KAV - not enough
to throw a 'hissy' about but when I factor in everything else above...


--
Regards,
 joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...




Re: [H] DST glitch again?

2007-10-29 Thread Thane Sherrington
Plants and animals don't pay a lot of attention to clocks.  I grew up 
on a farm, and DST is as much a PITA for farmers as everyone else.


T

At 08:00 PM 28/10/2007, DHSinclair wrote:
Yea, I do understand.  UCan not grow stuff in a desert really 
well.  Although, AZ does have some really good farmland, as I read.
This whole DST business is a KroK anyway.  I asked because one of my 
machines decided to

NOT take the patch 8 months ago and surprised me.  I do not do surprises well.
Truly, I really wish they would just kill the DST thing and let 
the rest of us just get on and

survive as best we can.
/ON soapbox/
Caveat-No. I do not have school-aged children.
Caveat-I do very much care about school-aged children just because 
it seems to be worse now out there than when I rode the 'bus'.  If 
DST helps the ride the bus for the young one's,

I do accept it. The young one's are our future :)
/OFF soapbox/
Best,
Duncan

At 15:31 10/28/2007 -0700, FORC5 wrote:
Am I glad DST is a non problem in Az. Have never seen the point of 
it anyway since we do not need to bring in the crops anymore.

fp

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[H] Private IP classes

2007-10-29 Thread DHSinclair

OK, I now use what I read is the Class C private IP address series.
I use 192.168.2xx.x.  I am told that my sub-net mask should
be 255.255.255.0.
If this is true, then should not my chosen 3rd quartile of 2xx really
be a value 0?
Or, does it really mean that my chosen 3rd quartile is somehow
ignored?   Yes, I do recall discussion about this last year, but back
then I was using the Class A private IP series. :)
Thank you for any/all de-mystification.
Best,
Duncan



Re: [H] DST glitch again?

2007-10-29 Thread DHSinclair
Yes, understand.  Really wish people and Gov't bureaucracies could be more 
like just plants and animals! LOL!

Best,
Duncan

At 14:16 10/29/2007 -0300, you wrote:
Plants and animals don't pay a lot of attention to clocks.  I grew up on a 
farm, and DST is as much a PITA for farmers as everyone else.


T

At 08:00 PM 28/10/2007, DHSinclair wrote:
Yea, I do understand.  UCan not grow stuff in a desert really 
well.  Although, AZ does have some really good farmland, as I read.
This whole DST business is a KroK anyway.  I asked because one of my 
machines decided to
NOT take the patch 8 months ago and surprised me.  I do not do surprises 
well.
Truly, I really wish they would just kill the DST thing and let the 
rest of us just get on and

survive as best we can.
/ON soapbox/
Caveat-No. I do not have school-aged children.
Caveat-I do very much care about school-aged children just because it 
seems to be worse now out there than when I rode the 'bus'.  If DST helps 
the ride the bus for the young one's,

I do accept it. The young one's are our future :)
/OFF soapbox/
Best,
Duncan

At 15:31 10/28/2007 -0700, FORC5 wrote:
Am I glad DST is a non problem in Az. Have never seen the point of it 
anyway since we do not need to bring in the crops anymore.

fp

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Re: [H] Private IP classes

2007-10-29 Thread Tharin Olsen
There is something like 64 thousand ip addresses in the private 192.168.x.x 
range. (192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255)

The subnet mask will determine the range of IP addresses that will be in your 
local network. Your local network being the computers/devices you have direct 
access to send data without needing to be handled through a router.

The common and default subnet mask that is used in a SOHO network and on a 
Private C class block is 255.255.255.0. This will allow for a total of 254 
hosts. This is the default setting for most consumer routers from Linksys, 
D-link, Netgear, etc.

If computerA had an ip address of 192.168.0.12 and a subnet mask of 
255.255.255.0 it would be able to communicate with the network range of 
192.168.0.1-192.168.0.254. If computerB had an IP of 192.168.9.5 and the same 
subnet the valid network range would be 192.168.9.1-192.168.9.254. A ping from
computerA would not reach computerB or vice versa because they are on two 
different networks.
 
Hopefully this crude example shows how the subnet mask determines the ip range; 
especially, how that particular subnet mask would restrict your ip range to 
whichever block you choose in the third set of numbers. 

How did you need to apply this knowledge?? Are you configuring a router or 
small network in your home??



DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I now use what I read is the Class C 
private IP address series.
I use 192.168.2xx.x.  I am told that my sub-net mask should
be 255.255.255.0.
If this is true, then should not my chosen 3rd quartile of 2xx really
be a value 0?
Or, does it really mean that my chosen 3rd quartile is somehow
ignored?   Yes, I do recall discussion about this last year, but back
then I was using the Class A private IP series. :)
Thank you for any/all de-mystification.
Best,
Duncan




Re: [H] Private IP classes

2007-10-29 Thread DHSinclair

Tharin,
I am trying to configure both a router and my personal network of 6 (7) 
devices. 7 if I count the router; which I do.  Does that combination have a 
bearing on this?


After 7 years, I was trying to stretch/play a little bit because this is my 
2d go-around with high-speed. Perhaps I went too far. I tried to use the 
3rd quartile/block of the IP address to define a server and a client 
PC.  It did not work at all.  Servers could talk to/see servers but not 
clients. Clients could talkto/see clients but not servers.  Yes, I 
was trying to use the 3rd quartile/block of the IP address to differentiate 
servers and clients.  Well, no matter.


OK, I may now back up and re-implement my old plan of using a Class A 
network IP address scheme, but use a sub-net mask of 255.255.255.0.  This 
scheme served me well for the last 7 years.
You did answer my question and confirmed I did have a grasp about the 
sub-net mask control.


I chose the Class C scheme due to comment here on the list.  It just does 
not work with my chosen IP address series, but now I know that my chosen IP 
address series may be 'out of bounds.'
I will play some more tonight.  I will get it to work.  More play in 
process..

Thank you.  Best/Most Crisp answer so far... :)
Best,
Duncan

At 16:02 10/29/2007 -0700, you wrote:
There is something like 64 thousand ip addresses in the private 
192.168.x.x range. (192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255)


The subnet mask will determine the range of IP addresses that will be in 
your local network. Your local network being the computers/devices you 
have direct access to send data without needing to be handled through a router.


The common and default subnet mask that is used in a SOHO network and on a 
Private C class block is 255.255.255.0. This will allow for a total of 254 
hosts. This is the default setting for most consumer routers from Linksys, 
D-link, Netgear, etc.


If computerA had an ip address of 192.168.0.12 and a subnet mask of 
255.255.255.0 it would be able to communicate with the network range of 
192.168.0.1-192.168.0.254. If computerB had an IP of 192.168.9.5 and the 
same subnet the valid network range would be 192.168.9.1-192.168.9.254. A 
ping from
computerA would not reach computerB or vice versa because they are on two 
different networks.


Hopefully this crude example shows how the subnet mask determines the ip 
range; especially, how that particular subnet mask would restrict your ip 
range to whichever block you choose in the third set of numbers.


How did you need to apply this knowledge?? Are you configuring a router or 
small network in your home??




DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, I now use what I read is the Class C private IP address series.
I use 192.168.2xx.x. I am told that my sub-net mask should
be 255.255.255.0.
If this is true, then should not my chosen 3rd quartile of 2xx really
be a value 0?
Or, does it really mean that my chosen 3rd quartile is somehow
ignored? Yes, I do recall discussion about this last year, but back
then I was using the Class A private IP series. :)
Thank you for any/all de-mystification.
Best,
Duncan


Re: [H] Private IP classes

2007-10-29 Thread DHSinclair

Tharin,
Can I ask for some more expansion on the below send?  This may be the 
critical link!


At 16:02 10/29/2007 -0700, you wrote:

snip
The subnet mask will determine the range of IP addresses that will be in 
your local network. Your local network being the computers/devices you 
have direct access to send data without needing to be handled through a router.


snip
How did you need to apply this knowledge?? Are you configuring a router or 
small network in your home??


I was trying to have 2 subnets. Perhaps I did it wrong/badly. I have given up!
Why is the ...needing to be handled through a router part of this 
equation?

This may be my confusion
Best,
Duncan

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[H] wify printer ?

2007-10-29 Thread FORC5
Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how the network 
is setup, whether a router or direct.

I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.

Fp


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[H] Asus bad

2007-10-29 Thread FORC5
Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any grief. They 
sent back a different one with the same cap puffed.

May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(

Be on the phone in the AM to do this again.
fp


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Tallyho ! ]:8)
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Re: [H] Asus bad

2007-10-29 Thread DHSinclair

Everyone is having trouble with caps lately. I suspected this back when
the List started seeing it.  I planned 4-6yrs for the inventory to process.
Guess we are still seeing stuff with bad caps...$$$ talks!
Maybe another few years?
Best,
Duncan

At 17:41 10/29/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Sent back a MB with a blown cap on rma. mb was not giving me any grief. 
They sent back a different one with the same cap puffed.


May have to find another default MB vendor. :'(

Be on the phone in the AM to do this again.
fp


--
Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
--
I have lost my mind, but it must be backed-up somewhere.




Re: [H] wify printer ?

2007-10-29 Thread DHSinclair

Well, according to Tharin, there just might be...
.I always assumed not too
I'll wait.
Best,
Duncan
At 17:39 10/29/2007 -0700, you wrote:
Have to set up a wireless printer, at the moment have no idea how the 
network is setup, whether a router or direct.


I assume this is no big deal if there is a router.

Fp

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