Re: [H] eide/pata
Thanks DH, My reply was slightly misunderstood. I see it below, I left out some commas. Any old PCI MB will take an UltraATA controller card and run that drive. BUT --- WITH the right OS AND card drivers. The problems with the OS I referred to was finding a card chipset driver for the OS wanted. Different card manufacturers and chipset or card revision numbers caused me non-usable problems as the OS versions advanced. The older chipset revision numbers dropped off the supported OS driver list... (New firmware, if available, did not help.) That is why I considered the OS (driver area) the limiting factor. Sorry for being too general before. Glad you have a new pet project. I finally am taking a serious look at Ubuntu, and figuring out why it seems to hate some of my relatively main stream bland hardware. I'm fighting known reported bugs that no one seems to have worked on that go back to 2006... I have had the same problems on totally different hardware combinations, and going back a similarly long time. It is not my intention to infuriate the Linux members of this list, if any. Some people on other lists get a little touchy when you complain about their OS types. Rick Glazier -- From: DHSinclair j, Thank you for that link. It crisply explained much of what I stumbled into. I will just save my 160GB pata drive as a spare for one of my other running pata systems (using the same 160GB drive). It seems, from my read, that an old 440BX chipset will never recognize/deal with a drive this large, regardless of Bios (or other) trickery. Fine. I have been slapped down yet again! I stopped slogging at it 2 weeks ago. I have not completed the disassembly yet. Let's call it good, warm, old memories. I may still try my Promise Ultra133-tx2 card; Just4Grins! I have a new toy ATM..(new focus!)... :) Rick, Yes, I do try to keep my old stuff working; when it does not seem to have visible internal problems. This time, it seems, I was fighting technology change I had forgotten about over the years since 199x. You win, My Bad! I get another black star! Jeez(I sure hope my report card is private! LOL! Thank you, Duncan At 02:29 10/28/2008 -0700, you wrote: List a Window OS post 9x/me that can't do lba48? Right, none, so a non-problem with the right add-on controller card w/BIOS. Random interesting link: http://www.dewassoc.com/kbase/hard_drives/hard_drive_size_barriers.htm Rick Glazier wrote: I agreed... I listed three things and said to stay under 120G to avoid them all... Then listed the one (the OS) most likely to be a problem. Rick Glazier -- From: maccrawj UltraATA controller w/ BIOS support for LBA48 trumps system BIOS limits on size. Rick Glazier wrote: Philosophy aside, you can sometimes get a PCI MB to boot from a UltraATA controller card and use a HD larger than 137G (or so), but getting the right combination of MB BIOS booting options and chipset driver and OS compatibility can be a problem. Like someone said, if you stay under 120G, you might not trip any limitations. (Even the OSs will have HD size limitations...) Mixing new with old can get messy fast...
Re: [H] Thunderbird Problems (the Email not the car!)
I admit I have not followed this thread, but unless I'm missing something, it seems to boil down to port 25 blocking. (IMHO) I never have THAT problem and most of my e-mail is sent to all different hosting services and THEIR personal servers on higher port numbers. I send NO e-mail through my ISP servers on their ports. I doubt if I'm sending anything on port 25 anymore at all. As an example, I use the free Gmail servers on a port in the 5XX series. I do similar things many other places. The smarter ones password protect their site configuration info to members only. The best place to see public instructions on how to do this is at Gmail, in the POP3/SMTP (ESMTP??) configuration section (free)... This only works well (and continues to work with-out problems) when the servers always authenticate sends so they are not accused of being open relays. Open replays are trouble, and WILL be banned and black-listed eventually... Hope this helps. Rick Glazier -- From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry if I wasn't clearer in my earlier email-- If you're connecting through cox, there is no reason to use a different SMTP server. Just send your mail (regardless of whether it's @cox.net or @att.net or whatever) through the cox SMTP server.
Re: [H] Thunderbird Problems (the Email not the car!)
Hi Rick, I think you're right--I at least don't disagree with anything you said :) I'm glad my current ISP does not block port 25 anymore. My last two--Cox and SBC--did. Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but I was just saying that if you're connected to the internet via Cox, you can send any and all mail through the Cox SMTP servers--cox, att, etc (hmm..I wonder if that messes with SPF though). You cannot send mail to any other smtp server via port 25. On the other hand, if you're connected to ATT (or SBC, etc), you have to specifically request they unblock port 25 if you want to send mail via a different server on port 25. Other ports (pair.com for instance allows port 2525 to their SMTP server), SSL etc should always work. Scott On Oct 29, 2008, at 9:37 AM, Rick Glazier wrote: I admit I have not followed this thread, but unless I'm missing something, it seems to boil down to port 25 blocking. (IMHO) I never have THAT problem and most of my e-mail is sent to all different hosting services and THEIR personal servers on higher port numbers. I send NO e-mail through my ISP servers on their ports. I doubt if I'm sending anything on port 25 anymore at all. As an example, I use the free Gmail servers on a port in the 5XX series. I do similar things many other places. The smarter ones password protect their site configuration info to members only. The best place to see public instructions on how to do this is at Gmail, in the POP3/SMTP (ESMTP??) configuration section (free)... This only works well (and continues to work with-out problems) when the servers always authenticate sends so they are not accused of being open relays. Open replays are trouble, and WILL be banned and black-listed eventually... Hope this helps. Rick Glazier -- From: Scott Sipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry if I wasn't clearer in my earlier email-- If you're connecting through cox, there is no reason to use a different SMTP server. Just send your mail (regardless of whether it's @cox.net or @att.net or whatever) through the cox SMTP server.
Re: [H] eide/pata
I see where you were coming from with that now Rick. Personally the Maxtor branded Promise ATA133 controller+driver under Win2K or XP gave me no lasting issues but that's about 5 years ago... Onto Linux: Given CodeWeavers little publicity stunt, I'm again seriously looking at booting my linux partition to test their claims that CrossOver can actually run Windows Steam/TF2 (among other games) under linux. If that pans out I might be able to finally run a linux system often enough to get use to it! Hope you guys got in on the deal, it's gone now! www.codeweavers.com Rick Glazier wrote: Thanks DH, My reply was slightly misunderstood. I see it below, I left out some commas. Any old PCI MB will take an UltraATA controller card and run that drive. BUT --- WITH the right OS AND card drivers. The problems with the OS I referred to was finding a card chipset driver for the OS wanted. Different card manufacturers and chipset or card revision numbers caused me non-usable problems as the OS versions advanced. The older chipset revision numbers dropped off the supported OS driver list... (New firmware, if available, did not help.) That is why I considered the OS (driver area) the limiting factor. Sorry for being too general before. Glad you have a new pet project. I finally am taking a serious look at Ubuntu, and figuring out why it seems to hate some of my relatively main stream bland hardware. I'm fighting known reported bugs that no one seems to have worked on that go back to 2006... I have had the same problems on totally different hardware combinations, and going back a similarly long time. It is not my intention to infuriate the Linux members of this list, if any. Some people on other lists get a little touchy when you complain about their OS types.
[H] need iPod help ?
Bought my son a iPod to find out does not play with windows media player, unless I use itunes sw or buy a plug in. Any other options ? Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live.
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies. You only solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another program (like Poddox http://www.poddox.com/). But either way I'm pretty sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless you do some illegal stuff). --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:39 PM, FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought my son a iPod to find out does not play with windows media player, unless I use itunes sw or buy a plug in. Any other options ? Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live.
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
I don't get why people hate on iTunes so much. The interface is dead easy to use and the software works great. If you don't want to buy media with Apple DRM then either buy DRM free stuff from iTunes or buy from Amazon. When you buy from Amazon it automatically ends up in your iTunes library. iTunes is *not* *bad* *software.* If you absolutely HATE it and CAN NOT USE iTunes then use MediaMonkey which is free and does what iTunes does, just not as well (imho.) Or, don't buy an iPod. I had a Creative Zen Vision:M and besides it being a complete piece of crap, using Windows Media to manage it was terrible. Ugh! Brian Weeden wrote: Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies. You only solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another program (like Poddox http://www.poddox.com/). But either way I'm pretty sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless you do some illegal stuff).
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
I use iTunes with my iPhone and don't consider it that bad, as long as you play in Apple's universe. And microsoft is just as bad with the Zune and the whole PlaysForSure crap. iTunes has gotten worse and more bloated over the years. And Apple is adopting some microsoft tactics like auto-selecting Safari for install everytime the little iTunes updater pops up. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't get why people hate on iTunes so much. The interface is dead easy to use and the software works great. If you don't want to buy media with Apple DRM then either buy DRM free stuff from iTunes or buy from Amazon. When you buy from Amazon it automatically ends up in your iTunes library. iTunes is *not* *bad* *software.* If you absolutely HATE it and CAN NOT USE iTunes then use MediaMonkey which is free and does what iTunes does, just not as well (imho.) Or, don't buy an iPod. I had a Creative Zen Vision:M and besides it being a complete piece of crap, using Windows Media to manage it was terrible. Ugh! Brian Weeden wrote: Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies. You only solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another program (like Poddox http://www.poddox.com/). But either way I'm pretty sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless you do some illegal stuff).
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
thanks, should of done homework first. did find some sw that claim to allow sync with ipod but itunes is a free dl ( I think ) ? Will itunes allow me to use my existing library of mp3's ? thanks again. DRM bummer. Never expected this. Have a customer box with itunes installed, may hook up to it and see wtf b4 I make a decision. fp At 06:43 PM 10/29/2008, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies. You only solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another program (like Poddox http://www.poddox.com/). But either way I'm pretty sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless you do some illegal stuff). --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:39 PM, FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought my son a iPod to find out does not play with windows media player, unless I use itunes sw or buy a plug in. Any other options ? Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live.
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
Yep. iTunes is good with mp3s and most other non-DRM music formats (not sure about FLAC). But it won't work with DRM'd wma files. My collection is almost 100% mp3s and I use iTunes, works pretty well for me. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:06 PM, FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, should of done homework first. did find some sw that claim to allow sync with ipod but itunes is a free dl ( I think ) ? Will itunes allow me to use my existing library of mp3's ? thanks again. DRM bummer. Never expected this. Have a customer box with itunes installed, may hook up to it and see wtf b4 I make a decision. fp At 06:43 PM 10/29/2008, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies. You only solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another program (like Poddox http://www.poddox.com/). But either way I'm pretty sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless you do some illegal stuff). --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:39 PM, FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought my son a iPod to find out does not play with windows media player, unless I use itunes sw or buy a plug in. Any other options ? Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live.
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
downloaded a 30 day trial plug in http://www.mgtek.com/dopisp/ works perfectly worth $20 I think time will tell, right now everything in the puter has been in sync , thanks fp At 07:06 PM 10/29/2008, FORC5 Poked the stick with: thanks, should of done homework first. did find some sw that claim to allow sync with ipod but itunes is a free dl ( I think ) ? Will itunes allow me to use my existing library of mp3's ? thanks again. DRM bummer. Never expected this. Have a customer box with itunes installed, may hook up to it and see wtf b4 I make a decision. fp At 06:43 PM 10/29/2008, Brian Weeden Poked the stick with: Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies. You only solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another program (like Poddox http://www.poddox.com/). But either way I'm pretty sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless you do some illegal stuff). --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:39 PM, FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bought my son a iPod to find out does not play with windows media player, unless I use itunes sw or buy a plug in. Any other options ? Thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Often the test of courage is not to die but to live. -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Happy as a hog eating cow manure -- well lick my lips!
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
I mean, why would I not care to play in Apple's universe? I have an iPhone, the iTunes software plays nice with it. It's easy to use. Does a damn good job of organizing my media, makes tagging very easy, makes ripping a CD very easy, and generally is so simple even my wife and her parents can use it. As for it being bloated, well, again it only runs if I am listening to a MP3 or syncing my phone. I have 4GB of RAM in my Macbook Pro, and to be honest it ran just as good when I had 2GB in it, and also just as good as when I was running it in Windows. As for the Safari on Windows fiasco, sure, I'll give you that but if we're just talking about our personal media player user experience, it's not bad at all. Brian Weeden wrote: I use iTunes with my iPhone and don't consider it that bad, as long as you play in Apple's universe. And microsoft is just as bad with the Zune and the whole PlaysForSure crap. iTunes has gotten worse and more bloated over the years. And Apple is adopting some microsoft tactics like auto-selecting Safari for install everytime the little iTunes updater pops up.
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
Is the problem that you already had your library in Windows Media player? Because Media Monkey would have worked fine for syncing your ipod and is free. FORC5 wrote: downloaded a 30 day trial plug in http://www.mgtek.com/dopisp/ works perfectly worth $20 I think time will tell, right now everything in the puter has been in sync , thanks fp
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
I just got a Zen X-Fi 16gb, works well, plug n play, drag n drop device recognition, don't need to install and use any software or evn choose to use Windows Media Player. better than the ipods I've used lately, I just hate what itunes has turned into. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Ruset Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 6:48 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] need iPod help ? I don't get why people hate on iTunes so much. The interface is dead easy to use and the software works great. If you don't want to buy media with Apple DRM then either buy DRM free stuff from iTunes or buy from Amazon. When you buy from Amazon it automatically ends up in your iTunes library. iTunes is *not* *bad* *software.* If you absolutely HATE it and CAN NOT USE iTunes then use MediaMonkey which is free and does what iTunes does, just not as well (imho.) Or, don't buy an iPod. I had a Creative Zen Vision:M and besides it being a complete piece of crap, using Windows Media to manage it was terrible. Ugh! Brian Weeden wrote: Welcome to the wonderful world of DRM and competing monopolies. You only solution is to live in Apple's world (ie use iTunes) or go with another program (like Poddox http://www.poddox.com/). But either way I'm pretty sure you can't use windows media player, and positive that if you buy anything from the iTunes store you can't play it outside of iTunes (unless you do some illegal stuff).
Re: [H] need iPod help ?
still running on 30 day trial, will look into media monkey yes all we have is in media player some really old, de je vue 60's for me 8-) fp thanks At 08:21 PM 10/29/2008, Ben Ruset Poked the stick with: Is the problem that you already had your library in Windows Media player? Because Media Monkey would have worked fine for syncing your ipod and is free. FORC5 wrote: downloaded a 30 day trial plug in http://www.mgtek.com/dopisp/ works perfectly worth $20 I think time will tell, right now everything in the puter has been in sync , thanks fp -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Dios tarda pero no olvida.
