Re: [H] A/V Receivers
Correct on sound over HDMI. If your receiver can do video switching, then you can hook multiple different formats up to it (Component, composite, HDMI) and output just one video cable (HDMI). Ditto with audio switching, and of course the same HDMI cable can carry both the video and audio signal. Reading through the review of the Onkyo 606 on Cnet, it seems that it has fairly poor video converters onboard. That could be a big deal if you are running a lot of non-720p sources through it (the receiver only supports up to 1080i so I would reccomend sticking to 720p). So let's say you are watching a DVD through an older DVD player that doesn't upconvert or have an HDMI output. Then the receiver would be attemping to upconvert the original DVD video (480p) to 720p and pass it out over the HDMI. From the editor's review it sounds like it doesn't do a very good job of that. If you have a newer DVD player that does the upconverting internally then it may not matter to you. Here's the review: http://reviews.cnet.com/av-receivers/onkyo-tx-sr606-black/4505-6466_7-32956253.html?tag=rnav There's also the added complication of whether your TV does any video upconverting. That can be either a problem or a good thing depending on the quality of the chips and software used. From what I have seen, some of the best upconverting chipsets come from a company called Faroudja. Used to be pretty expensive but they've gotten fairly cheap in the last few years. --- Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundtion.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:06 PM, Christopher Fisk chr...@mhonline.netwrote: On Fri, 2 Jan 2009, Brian Weeden wrote: I've been a big fan on Onkyo for the last 15 years or so. They are one of the few low/mid priced receivers that have realistic power amplifier ratings and current delivery. Why would you need to replace your speakers? If you have a 5.1 setup, you don't need to move to 7.1. You can still run it in 5.1 mode. Yeah, I went to Circuit City, they have the Onkyo SR606 which is what I think I'm going to get. It's about $150 more than my budget, but it also will last through everything I'm eventually planning on getting, and it supports sound over HDMI instead of just passthrough (Which I believe means I'd need to use a separate cable for sound?) If the 506 can get it's sound through HDMI I might get that instead, it's $150 cheaper. And you're right about speakers. The shape of the speaker connector threw me off. There is no need to replace my current speakers. In fact, I could take my 5.1 system and convert the back speakers into front speakers and use a wireless rear set in the future. Any of this not make sense? Christopher Fisk -- Mal: Use of a swhat? --Episode #4, Shindig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
[H] DVI-VGA adapters
Have noticed that most new video cards now come only with DVI connectors. If lucky, there will be an adapter in the box to convert the DVI connector back to the older VGA 15-pin DSub connector. This is fine. And, yes, I do understand that video cards may now come with HDMI connections also. So, I now have these 3 DVI-VGA adapters. One from an old Gainward card of ~2000, one from an eVga FX5500 of 2004, and now one from a new MSI R4670 of 2008. I am confused about these adapters. 2 (the GW and the MSI) are the same. The eVga adapter is different. It is the number of pins on the DVI side ... !!! (MSI adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom, 1 missing from this block of 9. 3 top missing, 3 middle missing, 3 bottom missing. 2 top, 2 middle missing, 2 bottom. (GW adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. block of 9 pins; 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom w/1missing pin (lower right) blank space in middle (perhaps 6 pins worth) block of 9 pins; 1 missing and 2 pins top, 3 pins missing middle, 1 missing and 2 pins bottom. (The eVga adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. full array of 24 pins; 8 top, 8 middle, and 8 bottom. I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible? I searched the web but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd warnings of incompatibilities. I'll accept that conversion of the DVI connector to the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality. Any information, links, opinions are welcome. I have not ever used a DVI based video cable yet. I have never even seen one! Thank you, Duncan
Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible? I searched the web but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd warnings of incompatibilities. I'll accept that conversion of the DVI connector to the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality. if it does you will never notice it. Just makes sure your monitor will run at native resolution using VGA.
Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
All you need to know (and more) about DVI can be found on Wikipedia (just like everything else :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface the four pins either side of the blade are the analogue signal. Some of the other pins contain analogue signals as part of the VGA/DVI spec. It's though these pins that monitors detect whether a cable is connected to a card and vice versa. MSI/GW Adapter is purely DVI-A or Analogue only. This is fine, this is all it needs to be. The eVga has all the pin on the DVI side, but the digital connections won't be attached to anything on the analogue side, i guess it's just a standard part they have chosen to use when manufacturing the adapter. Hope this makes sense. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 16:53 To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Have noticed that most new video cards now come only with DVI connectors. If lucky, there will be an adapter in the box to convert the DVI connector back to the older VGA 15-pin DSub connector. This is fine. And, yes, I do understand that video cards may now come with HDMI connections also. So, I now have these 3 DVI-VGA adapters. One from an old Gainward card of ~2000, one from an eVga FX5500 of 2004, and now one from a new MSI R4670 of 2008. I am confused about these adapters. 2 (the GW and the MSI) are the same. The eVga adapter is different. It is the number of pins on the DVI side ... !!! (MSI adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom, 1 missing from this block of 9. 3 top missing, 3 middle missing, 3 bottom missing. 2 top, 2 middle missing, 2 bottom. (GW adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. block of 9 pins; 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom w/1missing pin (lower right) blank space in middle (perhaps 6 pins worth) block of 9 pins; 1 missing and 2 pins top, 3 pins missing middle, 1 missing and 2 pins bottom. (The eVga adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. full array of 24 pins; 8 top, 8 middle, and 8 bottom. I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible? I searched the web but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd warnings of incompatibilities. I'll accept that conversion of the DVI connector to the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality. Any information, links, opinions are welcome. I have not ever used a DVI based video cable yet. I have never even seen one! Thank you, Duncan
Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
Neil, That explanation and link completely blew away all the smoke! I will move forward as though all 3 adapters are compatible. Yes, I still operate in the analog video modes because my KVM switch will only switch the old 15-pin DSub type of cable(s). My new Dell 20in WS panel does have the DVI connector, but I do not have a DVI-DVI cable to play with yet :) One day soon, I may start a search for KVM switches that use USB (kbd/mouse) and digital video switching. Thank you so much. The Collective does rule!! Happy New Year Duncan At 18:14 01/03/2009 +, you wrote: All you need to know (and more) about DVI can be found on Wikipedia (just like everything else :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface the four pins either side of the blade are the analogue signal. Some of the other pins contain analogue signals as part of the VGA/DVI spec. It's though these pins that monitors detect whether a cable is connected to a card and vice versa. MSI/GW Adapter is purely DVI-A or Analogue only. This is fine, this is all it needs to be. The eVga has all the pin on the DVI side, but the digital connections won't be attached to anything on the analogue side, i guess it's just a standard part they have chosen to use when manufacturing the adapter. Hope this makes sense. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 16:53 To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Have noticed that most new video cards now come only with DVI connectors. If lucky, there will be an adapter in the box to convert the DVI connector back to the older VGA 15-pin DSub connector. This is fine. And, yes, I do understand that video cards may now come with HDMI connections also. So, I now have these 3 DVI-VGA adapters. One from an old Gainward card of ~2000, one from an eVga FX5500 of 2004, and now one from a new MSI R4670 of 2008. I am confused about these adapters. 2 (the GW and the MSI) are the same. The eVga adapter is different. It is the number of pins on the DVI side ... !!! (MSI adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom, 1 missing from this block of 9. 3 top missing, 3 middle missing, 3 bottom missing. 2 top, 2 middle missing, 2 bottom. (GW adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. block of 9 pins; 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom w/1missing pin (lower right) blank space in middle (perhaps 6 pins worth) block of 9 pins; 1 missing and 2 pins top, 3 pins missing middle, 1 missing and 2 pins bottom. (The eVga adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. full array of 24 pins; 8 top, 8 middle, and 8 bottom. I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible? I searched the web but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd warnings of incompatibilities. I'll accept that conversion of the DVI connector to the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality. Any information, links, opinions are welcome. I have not ever used a DVI based video cable yet. I have never even seen one! Thank you, Duncan
Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
You mean the Dell didn't come with a DVI cable? I would have thought it should, my Dell 24 I got a year and a half ago came with both. I don't know what the 20 panels are like, but my 24 is a lot better with DVI than it was on VGA. Granted I went from a laptop with integrated Intel graphics to a nVidia Quadro which probably helped too. Neil. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 18:28 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Neil, That explanation and link completely blew away all the smoke! I will move forward as though all 3 adapters are compatible. Yes, I still operate in the analog video modes because my KVM switch will only switch the old 15-pin DSub type of cable(s). My new Dell 20in WS panel does have the DVI connector, but I do not have a DVI-DVI cable to play with yet :) One day soon, I may start a search for KVM switches that use USB (kbd/mouse) and digital video switching. Thank you so much. The Collective does rule!! Happy New Year Duncan At 18:14 01/03/2009 +, you wrote: All you need to know (and more) about DVI can be found on Wikipedia (just like everything else :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface the four pins either side of the blade are the analogue signal. Some of the other pins contain analogue signals as part of the VGA/DVI spec. It's though these pins that monitors detect whether a cable is connected to a card and vice versa. MSI/GW Adapter is purely DVI-A or Analogue only. This is fine, this is all it needs to be. The eVga has all the pin on the DVI side, but the digital connections won't be attached to anything on the analogue side, i guess it's just a standard part they have chosen to use when manufacturing the adapter. Hope this makes sense. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 16:53 To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Have noticed that most new video cards now come only with DVI connectors. If lucky, there will be an adapter in the box to convert the DVI connector back to the older VGA 15-pin DSub connector. This is fine. And, yes, I do understand that video cards may now come with HDMI connections also. So, I now have these 3 DVI-VGA adapters. One from an old Gainward card of ~2000, one from an eVga FX5500 of 2004, and now one from a new MSI R4670 of 2008. I am confused about these adapters. 2 (the GW and the MSI) are the same. The eVga adapter is different. It is the number of pins on the DVI side ... !!! (MSI adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom, 1 missing from this block of 9. 3 top missing, 3 middle missing, 3 bottom missing. 2 top, 2 middle missing, 2 bottom. (GW adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. block of 9 pins; 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom w/1missing pin (lower right) blank space in middle (perhaps 6 pins worth) block of 9 pins; 1 missing and 2 pins top, 3 pins missing middle, 1 missing and 2 pins bottom. (The eVga adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. full array of 24 pins; 8 top, 8 middle, and 8 bottom. I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible? I searched the web but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd warnings of incompatibilities. I'll accept that conversion of the DVI connector to the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality. Any information, links, opinions are welcome. I have not ever used a DVI based video cable yet. I have never even seen one! Thank you, Duncan
Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
Neil, My bad. Mike popped up and told me to check my box. Sure enough, I did find the DVI-DVI cable still in a sealed baggy! I'll put it on my project list for testing this year I'm still so happy with the VGA of this panel, I have not thought about DVI at all! This 20in WS is so nice, I may just pop for the 24in WS for the new, improved gaming PC! It never ends...Cha! Ching!! Sorry, Duncan At 20:46 01/03/2009 +, you wrote: You mean the Dell didn't come with a DVI cable? I would have thought it should, my Dell 24 I got a year and a half ago came with both. I don't know what the 20 panels are like, but my 24 is a lot better with DVI than it was on VGA. Granted I went from a laptop with integrated Intel graphics to a nVidia Quadro which probably helped too. Neil. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 18:28 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Neil, That explanation and link completely blew away all the smoke! I will move forward as though all 3 adapters are compatible. Yes, I still operate in the analog video modes because my KVM switch will only switch the old 15-pin DSub type of cable(s). My new Dell 20in WS panel does have the DVI connector, but I do not have a DVI-DVI cable to play with yet :) One day soon, I may start a search for KVM switches that use USB (kbd/mouse) and digital video switching. Thank you so much. The Collective does rule!! Happy New Year Duncan At 18:14 01/03/2009 +, you wrote: All you need to know (and more) about DVI can be found on Wikipedia (just like everything else :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface the four pins either side of the blade are the analogue signal. Some of the other pins contain analogue signals as part of the VGA/DVI spec. It's though these pins that monitors detect whether a cable is connected to a card and vice versa. MSI/GW Adapter is purely DVI-A or Analogue only. This is fine, this is all it needs to be. The eVga has all the pin on the DVI side, but the digital connections won't be attached to anything on the analogue side, i guess it's just a standard part they have chosen to use when manufacturing the adapter. Hope this makes sense. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 16:53 To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Have noticed that most new video cards now come only with DVI connectors. If lucky, there will be an adapter in the box to convert the DVI connector back to the older VGA 15-pin DSub connector. This is fine. And, yes, I do understand that video cards may now come with HDMI connections also. So, I now have these 3 DVI-VGA adapters. One from an old Gainward card of ~2000, one from an eVga FX5500 of 2004, and now one from a new MSI R4670 of 2008. I am confused about these adapters. 2 (the GW and the MSI) are the same. The eVga adapter is different. It is the number of pins on the DVI side ... !!! (MSI adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom, 1 missing from this block of 9. 3 top missing, 3 middle missing, 3 bottom missing. 2 top, 2 middle missing, 2 bottom. (GW adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. block of 9 pins; 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom w/1missing pin (lower right) blank space in middle (perhaps 6 pins worth) block of 9 pins; 1 missing and 2 pins top, 3 pins missing middle, 1 missing and 2 pins bottom. (The eVga adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. full array of 24 pins; 8 top, 8 middle, and 8 bottom. I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible? I searched the web but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd warnings of incompatibilities. I'll accept that conversion of the DVI connector to the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality. Any information, links, opinions are welcome. I have not ever used a DVI based video cable yet. I have never even seen one! Thank you, Duncan
Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters
the jump from 20 to 24 is amazing! I did that. so much better for photo and video editing. the only problem is I want a second one but just don't have the space right now. Have fun with the screen :) Neil -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 21:18 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Neil, My bad. Mike popped up and told me to check my box. Sure enough, I did find the DVI-DVI cable still in a sealed baggy! I'll put it on my project list for testing this year I'm still so happy with the VGA of this panel, I have not thought about DVI at all! This 20in WS is so nice, I may just pop for the 24in WS for the new, improved gaming PC! It never ends...Cha! Ching!! Sorry, Duncan At 20:46 01/03/2009 +, you wrote: You mean the Dell didn't come with a DVI cable? I would have thought it should, my Dell 24 I got a year and a half ago came with both. I don't know what the 20 panels are like, but my 24 is a lot better with DVI than it was on VGA. Granted I went from a laptop with integrated Intel graphics to a nVidia Quadro which probably helped too. Neil. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 18:28 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Neil, That explanation and link completely blew away all the smoke! I will move forward as though all 3 adapters are compatible. Yes, I still operate in the analog video modes because my KVM switch will only switch the old 15-pin DSub type of cable(s). My new Dell 20in WS panel does have the DVI connector, but I do not have a DVI-DVI cable to play with yet :) One day soon, I may start a search for KVM switches that use USB (kbd/mouse) and digital video switching. Thank you so much. The Collective does rule!! Happy New Year Duncan At 18:14 01/03/2009 +, you wrote: All you need to know (and more) about DVI can be found on Wikipedia (just like everything else :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface the four pins either side of the blade are the analogue signal. Some of the other pins contain analogue signals as part of the VGA/DVI spec. It's though these pins that monitors detect whether a cable is connected to a card and vice versa. MSI/GW Adapter is purely DVI-A or Analogue only. This is fine, this is all it needs to be. The eVga has all the pin on the DVI side, but the digital connections won't be attached to anything on the analogue side, i guess it's just a standard part they have chosen to use when manufacturing the adapter. Hope this makes sense. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DHSinclair Sent: 03 January 2009 16:53 To: Hardware Group Subject: [H] DVI-VGA adapters Have noticed that most new video cards now come only with DVI connectors. If lucky, there will be an adapter in the box to convert the DVI connector back to the older VGA 15-pin DSub connector. This is fine. And, yes, I do understand that video cards may now come with HDMI connections also. So, I now have these 3 DVI-VGA adapters. One from an old Gainward card of ~2000, one from an eVga FX5500 of 2004, and now one from a new MSI R4670 of 2008. I am confused about these adapters. 2 (the GW and the MSI) are the same. The eVga adapter is different. It is the number of pins on the DVI side ... !!! (MSI adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom, 1 missing from this block of 9. 3 top missing, 3 middle missing, 3 bottom missing. 2 top, 2 middle missing, 2 bottom. (GW adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. block of 9 pins; 3 top, 3 middle, 2 bottom w/1missing pin (lower right) blank space in middle (perhaps 6 pins worth) block of 9 pins; 1 missing and 2 pins top, 3 pins missing middle, 1 missing and 2 pins bottom. (The eVga adapter) L-R What I call the DVI locator; 2 top, wide blade middle, 2 bottom. full array of 24 pins; 8 top, 8 middle, and 8 bottom. I really wish to hope all 3 adapters are compatible? I searched the web but have not found much info about these adapters except some odd warnings of incompatibilities. I'll accept that conversion of the DVI connector to the 15-pin DSub VGA connector may affect video quality. Any information, links, opinions are welcome. I have not ever used a DVI based video cable yet. I have never even seen one! Thank you, Duncan
Re: [H] USB w/ 12V/24V power?
Like PoE for networks is a co-power plug standard it seems, not a USB standard change: http://www.usbpluspower.org/ So you have a funky dual plug cable a IO board with the dual socket which provides 12V or 24V independent of the USB 5V. Neil Davidson wrote: That sounds odd to me. USB3 is going to allow up to 900mA instead of USB2s 500mA, but I didn't think the voltage was being upped like that. In fact, according to Wikipedia, the minimum voltage is actually going down to 4v http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usb#USB_3.0 got a link to where it says 12 or 24V? -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of maccrawj Sent: 31 December 2008 09:40 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] USB w/ 12V/24V power? Was casually looking into a single, multi-amp, 5V/12V power supply to eliminate all my wall-warts when I stumbled upon this, wondering if anyone had some insight into it? There's a newer USB plug/cable standard that supplies 12V or 24V along with data so you don't need power bricks for each external device? Reminds me of PoE for networking devices. Interesting idea, not exactly what I was looking for.
Re: [H] USB w/ 12V/24V power?
maccrawj wrote: Like PoE for networks is a co-power plug standard it seems, not a USB standard change: http://www.usbpluspower.org/ So you have a funky dual plug cable a IO board with the dual socket which provides 12V or 24V independent of the USB 5V. I actually have a Dell (Latitude D410) that has that funky USB+Power plug, never seen a device that uses it... Harry
[H] Suspect HDW-on the mend!
Just some status on the last new group of hdw that did not work (last year!). It works now! I have a dead RAM stick! Matters not where it is, the machine runs like almost dead! Like, never light panel, no beep, no nothing, just sit there and run the fans! ... :( Without the stick, the PC boots to bios, let's me set stuff, saves changes, and then tries to boot the previous WinXP install on the hd. Ha! Ha! That did not work! Not-A-Problem ATM! Fine. I know that most of the toys now work as expected. I can deal with the OS later.. :) So, the new toys now work with the remaining good RAM stick! Not perfect, but so much better than last month!!! .. :) As soon as I snag a sata dvdrom (suggestions welcome!), I will be able to do the required ministrations to the hard drive (yet again!) and have another new system. In the am I'll call call Crucial about this dead RAM stick!. :) Thank you for all your patience. Happy New Year! Duncan
Re: [H] USB w/ 12V/24V power?
I have never heard of this before. Looks to be big in the Point Of Sales world though. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Harry McGregor Sent: 04 January 2009 00:22 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] USB w/ 12V/24V power? maccrawj wrote: Like PoE for networks is a co-power plug standard it seems, not a USB standard change: http://www.usbpluspower.org/ So you have a funky dual plug cable a IO board with the dual socket which provides 12V or 24V independent of the USB 5V. I actually have a Dell (Latitude D410) that has that funky USB+Power plug, never seen a device that uses it... Harry
[H] Pata-Sata converters?
Mostly for j.maccraw What is the brand of patasata converters you like??? I lost the last email in the noise.. :( All other Collective opinions are welcome ATM! Happy New Year! best, Duncan
Re: [H] Seagate changes Warranty
1T 1.5(T?) is a lot bigger than I need. Were the BIOS issues in machines, or the drive firmware? I'd Google, but I think I'd get too many hits. Rick Glazier From: maccrawj Are Hitachi's still good? I ordered a D7K1000 instead of the Seagate 7200.11 1TB after reading about BIOS issues with the 1.5GB models.
Re: [H] Seagate changes Warranty
Most Bios that can see drives over 132GB can see up to 2TB hard drives. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Rick Glazier Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 6:16 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Seagate changes Warranty 1T 1.5(T?) is a lot bigger than I need. Were the BIOS issues in machines, or the drive firmware? I'd Google, but I think I'd get too many hits. Rick Glazier From: maccrawj Are Hitachi's still good? I ordered a D7K1000 instead of the Seagate 7200.11 1TB after reading about BIOS issues with the 1.5GB models.
Re: [H] Seagate changes Warranty
The Seagate firmware issue is with the 7200.11 drives, most notably the 1.5TB, though some reports of issues with smaller ones too. http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/other_downloads/cuda-fw and http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/356942 Harry Rick Glazier wrote: 1T 1.5(T?) is a lot bigger than I need. Were the BIOS issues in machines, or the drive firmware? I'd Google, but I think I'd get too many hits. Rick Glazier From: maccrawj Are Hitachi's still good? I ordered a D7K1000 instead of the Seagate 7200.11 1TB after reading about BIOS issues with the 1.5GB models.
