[H] firefox 3.5
Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
[H] CPU/Mobo/Vid
What's the best bang for buck base system right now? Not looking for top of the line, just reasonable power per $$.
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Yes, it is faster and stable. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] CPU/Mobo/Vid
780g based am3 mobo, x3 720 black edition (potential to unlock 4th core) and a 4850 IMO. All depends on what resolution/games you play though. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: 08 September 2009 12:56 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] CPU/Mobo/Vid What's the best bang for buck base system right now? Not looking for top of the line, just reasonable power per $$. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Been using it since the day it came out, ditto with what Lubomir said. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Lubomír Čabla kla...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, it is faster and stable. On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Works great on my old desktop at work. Athlon 800. Noticable speed increase from 3.0 A+++ would buy again. Christopher Fisk -- Raag i have an athlon xp 2.5, any suggestions for cflags? i have this atm: CFLAGS=-O3 -march=athlon-xp -fforce-addr -fmerge-all-constants -ffast-math -fprefetch-loop-arrays -fstrict-aliasing -falign-functions=64 -falign-labels=1 -falign-loops=16 -falign-jumps=16 -mfpmath=sse -mpreferred-stack-bound rac here's a hint. if your IRC client lops off part of your CFLAGS, you have a problem -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Bird is the word! -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:55 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] firefox 3.5 Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Hello Anthony, Yes, I am using it and its heavily modified with addons and themes. Works great over here, I wish they had a 64-bit version. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:55 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] firefox 3.5 Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Anthony, V3.0 was nice for learning how to use/drive FF. Upgraded to V3.5.2 last month. There is no going back! Put in on all my machines. V3.5.x is visually quicker than V3.0, and, all my chosen extensions still work. I use NoScript and CS-lite. This is a very good browser. I also notice that the new IE8 now looks and works much like FF! LOL! If you can't beat 'em, copy 'em, eh? Best, Duncan Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Great, They stumbled at first, repaired it quickly. 3.5.2 is current. Rick Glazier From: Anthony Q. Martin Subject: [H] firefox 3.5 Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] CPU/Mobo/Vid
What do you want it to do? I recently bought an Nvidia 8100 chipset mobo from Asrock, Athlon II X2 240 and Nvidia 9600 GSO for a dirt cheap price and some RAM from Ebay. Super inexpensive upgrade to the socket 939 unit it replaced and a fast machine for a dual core with the 3.36 GHz overclock it's running at. Had some problems with the board not POST'ing reliably until realizing that my Corsair RAM rated at 1.8v would not run reliably at that setting (2 separate sets of Corsair). The EPP SPD was defaulting at 1.8 during the initial boot after being built and I had to reset the CMOS to get it started up which caused me to believe the board was defective. A simple BIOS error on the part of Asrock engineers but simple to fix now that I know the cause. I've had 3 of these boards now which makes me feel like an idiot but the box was dirt cheap to build and quite competent, stable and energy efficient. Just set the RAM at1.9v and everything is peachy. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What's the best bang for buck base system right now? Not looking for top of the line, just reasonable power per $$.
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
I agree and use it exclusively since day one. I also wish a 64 bit version were available and will be glad when 32 bit is ancient history. Tim Lider wrote: Hello Anthony, Yes, I am using it and its heavily modified with addons and themes. Works great over here, I wish they had a 64-bit version. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:55 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] firefox 3.5 Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] CPU/Mobo/Vid
swzaske wrote: What do you want it to do? Some of everything. I don't want it to be sucky slow at anythingI'm not a gamer though I have tried to be...just can't find the time for it. However, I run MATLAB a lot and need it to not be super slow (and certainly not be in the lower rung in performance using the bench command). I do some video manipulation but not serious amounts. I want to create some movies too. And the rest is typical stuff that everyone does (bluray, music, word, powerpoint, etc.). I don't do loud systems, either. My PCs have to be quiet, so no screaming vid cards in my boxes. I guess I want it to be rock solid, too, as I have little time for hacking and tweaking anymore. Life sucks. :) I recently bought an Nvidia 8100 chipset mobo from Asrock, Athlon II X2 240 and Nvidia 9600 GSO for a dirt cheap price and some RAM from Ebay. Super inexpensive upgrade to the socket 939 unit it replaced and a fast machine for a dual core with the 3.36 GHz overclock it's running at. Had some problems with the board not POST'ing reliably until realizing that my Corsair RAM rated at 1.8v would not run reliably at that setting (2 separate sets of Corsair). The EPP SPD was defaulting at 1.8 during the initial boot after being built and I had to reset the CMOS to get it started up which caused me to believe the board was defective. A simple BIOS error on the part of Asrock engineers but simple to fix now that I know the cause. I've had 3 of these boards now which makes me feel like an idiot but the box was dirt cheap to build and quite competent, stable and energy efficient. Just set the RAM at1.9v and everything is peachy. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What's the best bang for buck base system right now? Not looking for top of the line, just reasonable power per $$.
Re: [H] CPU/Mobo/Vid
Although it leaves a sour taste in my mouth the Core i5 is probably the best choice if you can afford it (I assume you can). It is much cheaper than the i7 and almost as fast which is what you need for scientific apps and video manipulation. Personally, I wouldn't buy anything Intel but that's to keep the two party system intact. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: swzaske wrote: What do you want it to do? Some of everything. I don't want it to be sucky slow at anythingI'm not a gamer though I have tried to be...just can't find the time for it. However, I run MATLAB a lot and need it to not be super slow (and certainly not be in the lower rung in performance using the bench command). I do some video manipulation but not serious amounts. I want to create some movies too. And the rest is typical stuff that everyone does (bluray, music, word, powerpoint, etc.). I don't do loud systems, either. My PCs have to be quiet, so no screaming vid cards in my boxes. I guess I want it to be rock solid, too, as I have little time for hacking and tweaking anymore. Life sucks. :) I recently bought an Nvidia 8100 chipset mobo from Asrock, Athlon II X2 240 and Nvidia 9600 GSO for a dirt cheap price and some RAM from Ebay. Super inexpensive upgrade to the socket 939 unit it replaced and a fast machine for a dual core with the 3.36 GHz overclock it's running at. Had some problems with the board not POST'ing reliably until realizing that my Corsair RAM rated at 1.8v would not run reliably at that setting (2 separate sets of Corsair). The EPP SPD was defaulting at 1.8 during the initial boot after being built and I had to reset the CMOS to get it started up which caused me to believe the board was defective. A simple BIOS error on the part of Asrock engineers but simple to fix now that I know the cause. I've had 3 of these boards now which makes me feel like an idiot but the box was dirt cheap to build and quite competent, stable and energy efficient. Just set the RAM at1.9v and everything is peachy. Anthony Q. Martin wrote: What's the best bang for buck base system right now? Not looking for top of the line, just reasonable power per $$.
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
There are plenty of 64 bit builds kicking around, unfortunately mostly aren't 100% reliable and I doubt Mozilla will bother with a proper 64 bit build any time soon. TBH, I cannot see much point in a 64bit browser eitherwhy would you need it to address 2GB RAM? Regards Jason -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of swzaske Sent: 08 September 2009 17:02 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 I agree and use it exclusively since day one. I also wish a 64 bit version were available and will be glad when 32 bit is ancient history. Tim Lider wrote: Hello Anthony, Yes, I am using it and its heavily modified with addons and themes. Works great over here, I wish they had a 64-bit version. Regards, Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q. Martin Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 4:55 AM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] firefox 3.5 Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad? This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, please telephone or email the sender and delete this message and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. Clifford Chance LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England Wales under number OC323571. The firm's registered office and principal place of business is at 10 Upper Bank Street, London, E14 5JJ. For further details, including a list of members and their professional qualifications, see our website at www.cliffordchance.com. The firm uses the word 'partner' to refer to a member of Clifford Chance LLP or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. The firm is regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. The Authority's rules can be accessed by clicking on the following link: http://www.sra.org.uk/code-of-conduct.page Clifford Chance as a global firm regularly shares client and/or matter-related data among its different offices and support entities in strict compliance with internal control policies and statutory requirements. Incoming and outgoing email communications may be monitored by Clifford Chance, as permitted by applicable law and regulations. For further information about Clifford Chance please see our website at http://www.cliffordchance.com or refer to any Clifford Chance office.
Re: [H] cloning drive
I understand that, and it really p*ssed me off finding that writing to NTFS formatted images to HDDs isn't supported. NTFS support using optical media works fine, so this might be an M$ issue. The power of Ghost lies in the Ghost command line version (Ghost CLI) run directly from the CD (e.g. System Works Pro 2003), with it's ability to image almost any system, one can imagine. In my opinion, the full-install programme should never have happened. For the casual home user, even Ghost v5 CLI will mirror an XP/Vista boot partition on a single DVD just perfectly, or even the whole disk using the Optical Media Disk Spanning feature, with or without file compression, and with no data corruption on a healthy system. Get FreeDOS (or make a complete DOS 4-disc, bootable CD-ROM), and there's imaging to USB media available as well. Surely, Acronis has capturet something essential: that many people of today don't like to bother fiddling with a CLI, when it all can be done within the O/S, even with a nice GUI. Reading the current Acronis web site, the Acronis workstation software is +185 MB, but running within Windows. Ghost CLI is 1.000-something KBs, and runs from DOS. If the need is only imaging on a regular basis, I still believe Ghost CLI wins hands down, despite the need for booting a DOS diskette/CD. //soren Rick Glazier wrote: I used Ghost until they took too long to support writing the Image files (when recording originally) TO NTFS drives. I think I last used the 5x ver... Maybe 5.D? Acronis captured the moment, offered a GREAT competitive discount/upgrade and the rest is history... Rick Glazier From: Soren clipped All the whining about this tiny programme must be that some people at some time have found out that it's the absolute cloning standard, and then began recommending it to others. Those others didn't bother to read the fine print (a.k.a. the Manual), and hence is left into the eternal, bottomless abyss, without any sign of forgiveness. OK, I'm just guessing here ;)
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Hello Winterlight, Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 11:14:06 AM, you wrote: If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. So far so good. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] cloning drive
Several comments to counters of several points :) 1. Yup, theoretically a sector-by-sector copy would be slower, but in real world numbers we are talking at most 1-2 minutes for a typical O/S clone, so that doens't bother me. The point of using sector-by-sector clones is that some A/V vendors use techniques similar to root kits in their software, rendering parts of their A/V engine invisible to the system. So, if one uses a system based cloning util, these parts of the A/V engine could be let out on the cloned image. Of course Ghost includes the Swap and everything when cloning by sectors, that's why it's still widely used by e.g the FBI and the UK Scotland Yard among other law enforcement agencies. Very useful for forensics work. For normal b/u of single systems, though, precausions about the swap file must be taken, and that is either using a different mo in Ghost, or deleting the swap before b/u. Also the disk spanning feature is brilliant. Optical media is nice to have as an arhcive restoring point, unless all back ups are streamed to a mirrored RAID5 sys. For many smaller companies the cost of such a solution overshadowes the cost and ease of DVD-R. Maybe I also should point out that I find the full install of NT Ghost quite a mess for single setups. The cli version ran directly from CDis it, should anyone care anymore :) 2. Heh, so you mean that if the user can't make a working clone, it's the software's fault, even if the correct procedure is described in the manual? Just teasing, I know what you mean. Software should be relatively easy to use, I agree, and Acronis seem to have a tight grip in the long straw at that point. Could you please describe what you mean with Acronis at a basic level works the way people expect it to work. It's the words 'at a basic level' that frightens me the most. If you more detailed could describe what it does well and maybe does less well. I'm seriously considering buying Acronis, so a more hands-on description from an experiences Acronis user would be really nice (who trusts manufacturers these days). 4. I hear you. To be more specific, cloning is usually referred to the method of imaging sector-by-sector, so I think we both got a little confused here. Seems like Acronis also does cloning in its original sense, but with more granular options. And nope, file exclusions by default we don't want. I looked into Acronis around v5 or v6, and the reports from different users on the net were image data corruption, so I decided to wait a few versions or three more, before flashing the card. I'm happy to hear it works so well for you, sounds like they've solved the few issues that once were. Symantec support? Do they have support? As a former retailer, I can tell you, that they are only able to answer point-and-click questions, nothing else. Sad. I've had data corruption with Ghost at one time, too, but that was on an o/c'ed system of my own. Never experienced it 'in the field'. Using different versions can also mess things up big time. E.g. Plextor's CDResq is not compatiple with Ghost, even it's the same program. Different versions of Ghost doesn't always play, either. Yep, you're absolutely right, different tools for different jobs. But I'd like to hear more about your professional experiences with Acronis, anyways. Good discussion, btw, thanks :) //soren Greg Sevart wrote: Several counters to several points... :) 1. Of course speed is variable, but a sector by sector copy must necessarily be slower in almost all cases. By examining the $MFT (or the equivalent in other filesystems), you only have to copy sectors that actually have data you care about, vs. each and every sector on the drive. The only way that a sector-by-sector copy could be faster (or, rather, not slower) is if the drive was completely full. For the record, most of the systems I work with are Core 2 Quad/8GB/10k SATA or Core i7/12GB/15k SAS--certainly not slow. I also never have need to image directly to optical media--again, it's too slow. 2. Acronis isn't perfect either, and anyone that has half a clue will readily admit that no software is perfect. However, Acronis at a basic level works the way people expect it to work. While I will fully admit that you have a firm understanding of Ghost, if the way that most people try to use it doesn't function properly, that's a product problem, not a documentation or end-user knowledge problem. 4. That's interesting, since your original point was that anything less than an exact duplicate isn't properly cloning. I was actually trying to point out that the ability to exclude some files makes a lot of sense and can be valuable, which you now seem to agree with. I wouldn't want any files to be excluded by default, however. I never used Acronis prior to version 9, since I was happy with Ghost, so I can't speak to any data corruption issues with older versions. I do know that we haven't had any data integrity issues with it as an
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Does xmarks and adblock plus or something similar exist for opera? If yes then I am willing to switch. I personally prefer chrome but can't live without xmarks and abp. --Original Message-- From: Neil Davidson Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 Sent: Sep 9, 2009 1:39 AM I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 05:23:09PM -0700, Winterlight wrote: At 04:09 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Does xmarks and adblock plus or something similar exist for opera? Adblock which auto updates manual urlfilter.ini for opera unfortunately. -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
At 04:09 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Does xmarks and adblock plus or something similar exist for opera? There is a pop up block that you can configure Xmarks is bookmarks sync... ? you can create a opera account user and password and then keep all your bookmarks toolbars sessions syncd automatically with all your other PCs. Opera invented Tabs and speed dial and the new tweaks to these are really nice. m If yes then I am willing to switch. I personally prefer chrome but can't live without xmarks and abp. --Original Message-- From: Neil Davidson Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 Sent: Sep 9, 2009 1:39 AM I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad?
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
No native adblock or other plugins no opera for me. It is quite fast though. On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0100, Neil Davidson wrote: I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad? -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
For me, the extensions are the reason I can't leave FF. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: No native adblock or other plugins no opera for me. It is quite fast though. On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0100, Neil Davidson wrote: I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad? -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
lol what businesses don't use it? On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 09:40:12PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote: Kind of ironic, isn't it :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM, swzaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Brian Weeden wrote: For me, the extensions are the reason I can't leave FF. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: No native adblock or other plugins no opera for me. It is quite fast though. On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0100, Neil Davidson wrote: I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad? -- Bryan G. Seitz -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
Kind of ironic, isn't it :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM, swzaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Brian Weeden wrote: For me, the extensions are the reason I can't leave FF. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: No native adblock or other plugins no opera for me. It is quite fast though. On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0100, Neil Davidson wrote: I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad? -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] firefox 3.5
There was a prominent news story several months back about a major business being shown that Firefox is better than IE and the company reps responded that it was too expensive. After being told it was free they still weren't interested in using it. Maybe I'm making broad generalizations here but IE still has the lions share of the market place despite being inferior to Firefox. I feel that Microsoft has every right to ship their own version of a web browser. The problem is that it's incorporated into the OS itself and can't be uninstalled which takes away consumer choice and feels like it's being shoved down our throats. I would certainly uninstall it if it could be done and I haven't heard that that has changed with Win7. Bryan Seitz wrote: lol what businesses don't use it? On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 09:40:12PM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote: Kind of ironic, isn't it :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM, swzaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Brian Weeden wrote: For me, the extensions are the reason I can't leave FF. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: No native adblock or other plugins no opera for me. It is quite fast though. On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0100, Neil Davidson wrote: I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad? -- Bryan G. Seitz
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Maybe it's inertia or just plain kissing Microsoft's behind for favorable treatment and pricing. Maybe IT is just lazy. No offense to anybody on the list. Ahem! Brian Weeden wrote: Kind of ironic, isn't it :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 9:34 PM, swzaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Brian Weeden wrote: For me, the extensions are the reason I can't leave FF. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Bryan Seitz se...@bsd-unix.net wrote: No native adblock or other plugins no opera for me. It is quite fast though. On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 11:39:37PM +0100, Neil Davidson wrote: I'm a big Opera fan and have been recommending it to people whenever I can. Opera 10 is really slick, much more polished than 9.64. 100% on Acid3 as well (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid3) -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: 08 September 2009 17:14 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] firefox 3.5 If there are any other Opera fans out there they just came out with Opera 10 which is really nice. A lot of subtle changes and a few new features that solve all my issues with the 9.7 version. And it is really quick. At 04:54 AM 9/8/2009, you wrote: Any of you using this yet? What's the word? Good, bad? -- Bryan G. Seitz
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swzaske wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Care to list'em? Al
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Noscript (allows you to block javascripting) Better Privacy (allows you to view and auto delete flash cookies) CS Lite (great cookie manager) CRSF Protector (protects against cross site request forgeries) LastPass (awesome password and form fill manager) Ghostery (protects against devious DHTML layers) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Al xtemp...@comcast.net wrote: swzaske wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Care to list'em? Al
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Noscript Adblock + Xmarks On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 12:08:21AM -0400, Brian Weeden wrote: Noscript (allows you to block javascripting) Better Privacy (allows you to view and auto delete flash cookies) CS Lite (great cookie manager) CRSF Protector (protects against cross site request forgeries) LastPass (awesome password and form fill manager) Ghostery (protects against devious DHTML layers) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM, Al xtemp...@comcast.net wrote: swzaske wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Care to list'em? Al -- Bryan G. Seitz
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Forecastbar enhanced, AVG Safe Search, ChromaTabs Plus, Flagfox, NoScript, NoSquint, StatusbarEx and Torbutton. Try em, you might find something interesting. Al wrote: swzaske wrote: The extensions are what makes Firefox and probably the reason so many businesses don't use it. I have a half dozen that I use that definitely improve the functionality and security. Care to list'em? Al
