Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives
Just means you pay a monthly fee to play on official servers. That's why Bilzzard makes so much money. Not only do they sell the game but you pay your monthly fee as well to take part in playing it. MMO: Massive Multiplayer Online. Pretty sure that's right anyway. DSinc wrote: I suppose that I am w-a-y out of the norm here. Can someone please 'splain me this concept of subscription for a video game for a PC? Do not believe I am a complete dweeb. I so have a subscription for my weekend newspaper. OR? Might this be close? I an really curious Best, Duncan Gmail wrote: I do not understand that argument. $15 for on average 60+ hours of fun a month is pretty darn cheap compared to many other firms of entertainment. I would much rather pay that subscription than $50 for a game with 15 hours of game play and no replay value. Or a trip to the movies. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2009-10-25, at 5:22 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Only one I'd consider playing is floundering in the beta stage: Stargate Worlds. Guess MGM should of not frakked PTY Lmtd. and backed release of the originally promised stand-alone SG-1 game from 2005! Quake stated MO (not massive) play for free phenomenon the money grubbers have polluted. I have trouble seeing the supposed value added paying for benefits of massive w/ persistent save data @ $15/month subscription + $50/year software. Stan Zaske wrote: It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the words Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still play it in single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and join a social group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs. With a toddler in the house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and WoW). Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong), Dead Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: I have something you might be interested in Brian: Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free http://bit.ly/8dUTM Brian Weeden wrote: I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008. I consider that to be a dirt cheap price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years. I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine. The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth. And yes, I am running a 24 LCD. I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI, but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole new card. The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon Age:Origins - will probably run just fine on my current setup. However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had for years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data). So my upgrade this winter will be Windows 7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and a SSD boot drive. But I have no incentive to change my CPU. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users for years now. I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area. Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by. I play most new games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years. Processor? The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I have yet to saturate all 4 processors. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: Yep, Vista and Win7 are both very hardrive
Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives
Yes, that is exactly right. I still play World of Warcraft, and pay my $15 dutifully every month . lol Regards, Gary At 05:30 AM 10/26/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Just means you pay a monthly fee to play on official servers. That's why Bilzzard makes so much money. Not only do they sell the game but you pay your monthly fee as well to take part in playing it. MMO: Massive Multiplayer Online. Pretty sure that's right anyway. DSinc wrote: I suppose that I am w-a-y out of the norm here. Can someone please 'splain me this concept of subscription for a video game for a PC? Do not believe I am a complete dweeb. I so have a subscription for my weekend newspaper. OR? Might this be close? I an really curious Best, Duncan Gmail wrote: I do not understand that argument. $15 for on average 60+ hours of fun a month is pretty darn cheap compared to many other firms of entertainment. I would much rather pay that subscription than $50 for a game with 15 hours of game play and no replay value. Or a trip to the movies. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2009-10-25, at 5:22 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Only one I'd consider playing is floundering in the beta stage: Stargate Worlds. Guess MGM should of not frakked PTY Lmtd. and backed release of the originally promised stand-alone SG-1 game from 2005! Quake stated MO (not massive) play for free phenomenon the money grubbers have polluted. I have trouble seeing the supposed value added paying for benefits of massive w/ persistent save data @ $15/month subscription + $50/year software. Stan Zaske wrote: It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the words Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still play it in single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and join a social group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs. With a toddler in the house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and WoW). Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong), Dead Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: I have something you might be interested in Brian: Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free http://bit.ly/8dUTM Brian Weeden wrote: I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008. I consider that to be a dirt cheap price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years. I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine. The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth. And yes, I am running a 24 LCD. I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI, but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole new card. The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon Age:Origins - will probably run just fine on my current setup. However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had for years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data). So my upgrade this winter will be Windows 7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and a SSD boot drive. But I have no incentive to change my CPU. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users for years now. I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area. Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by. I play most new games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years. Processor? The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I have yet to saturate all 4 processors. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756
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Cheap entertainment. Gary Jackson wrote: Yes, that is exactly right. I still play World of Warcraft, and pay my $15 dutifully every month . lol Regards, Gary At 05:30 AM 10/26/2009, Stan Zaske wrote: Just means you pay a monthly fee to play on official servers. That's why Bilzzard makes so much money. Not only do they sell the game but you pay your monthly fee as well to take part in playing it. MMO: Massive Multiplayer Online. Pretty sure that's right anyway. DSinc wrote: I suppose that I am w-a-y out of the norm here. Can someone please 'splain me this concept of subscription for a video game for a PC? Do not believe I am a complete dweeb. I so have a subscription for my weekend newspaper. OR? Might this be close? I an really curious Best, Duncan Gmail wrote: I do not understand that argument. $15 for on average 60+ hours of fun a month is pretty darn cheap compared to many other firms of entertainment. I would much rather pay that subscription than $50 for a game with 15 hours of game play and no replay value. Or a trip to the movies. --- Brian Sent from my iPhone On 2009-10-25, at 5:22 PM, maccrawj maccr...@gmail.com wrote: Only one I'd consider playing is floundering in the beta stage: Stargate Worlds. Guess MGM should of not frakked PTY Lmtd. and backed release of the originally promised stand-alone SG-1 game from 2005! Quake stated MO (not massive) play for free phenomenon the money grubbers have polluted. I have trouble seeing the supposed value added paying for benefits of massive w/ persistent save data @ $15/month subscription + $50/year software. Stan Zaske wrote: It's my first MMO. After all these years of playing games it took the words Dungeons and Dragons and free to get me to try it. I still play it in single player mode however. Someday I'll take the plunge and join a social group. Probably get eaten alive by the kids in there. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: I'm sure it's great but I went cold turkey on MMOs. With a toddler in the house and another on the way I am strictly a single player, pause any time sort of gamer now (not that I didn't enjoy my time with MUDs, DAOC, and WoW). Oblivion, Fallout 3, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Civ 4 (still going strong), Dead Space, the Witcher - those are my type of games now. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: I have something you might be interested in Brian: Dungeons and Dragons Online: behold the power of free http://bit.ly/8dUTM Brian Weeden wrote: I bought a Q6600 for $250 in March 2008. I consider that to be a dirt cheap price to get a processor that will meet my foreseeable needs for 3-4 years. I bought a Radeon 4850 for $180 in Oct 2008 and it has suited me just fine. The last game I played - Batman Arkham Asylum - ran very smooth. And yes, I am running a 24 LCD. I've considered getting another 4850 and doing SLI, but I don't really see a need at this point and I'm not sure Im going to get much value as opposed to waiting another 6 months and getting a whole new card. The next major game I will be playing a lot - Dragon Age:Origins - will probably run just fine on my current setup. However, I am still running a pair of Seagate SATA drives that I've had for years (250 GB boot, 80 GB data). So my upgrade this winter will be Windows 7 64-bit, another 4 GB of RAM (because I multitask a lot and run VMs), and a SSD boot drive. But I have no incentive to change my CPU. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org Montreal Office +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Stan Zaske swza...@yahoo.com wrote: With gaming it depends on the resolution you play at. With a 30 monitor you're going to need some decent horsepower and even with my 24 there are times I wish for something better than my 4850 (5850 coming up as soon as price takes the 1st drop). I'm confused, you speak of an Intel quad core processor you bought 2 years ago being dirt cheap? Did you get it used because new and cheap don't equate to Intel processors. LOL Brian Weeden wrote: Hard drives have been the major system bottleneck for most computer users for years now. I'm surprised that it's taken this long for that fact to settle in AND for companies to realize that's the future growth area. Video cards? Eh...unless you are a freak you can get by. I play most new games and get by just fine spending $200 every couple of years. Processor? The quad core intel I bought 2 years ago was dirt cheap and I have yet to saturate all 4 processors. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation
Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives
My wife played it for awhile shortly after it was released -- said it was a lot of fun, but only for the first 30 or so levels. This WAS right after the game was released, so a lot could have changed since then. What do you think? Scott On Oct 26, 2009, at 1:45 AM, Naushad, Zulfiqar wrote: Does any one of you play Age of Conan? I gave up on WoW a lng time ago and am doing AoC right now. Very nice game! -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Joe User Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:36 AM To: Brian Weeden Subject: Re: [H] Win7 and Hard Drives Hello Brian, Sunday, October 25, 2009, 9:01:53 AM, you wrote: I played, maxed levels and crafting and quit WoW before Onyxia was beaten. So yeah, I'm old school :) For those that don't know, it's gone SUPER casual. Any idiot can get decent gear and be viable if they can press a few buttons. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
[H] WSUS in a repair shop environment
I hope someone has an idea on this one: I want to use our internal WSUS as a patch server for PC's that we repair or sell, but then want to make the machine no longer use the WSUS server when they are delivered back to the customer. Is there a simple way of using the WSUS in this fashion? Thanks! Christopher Fisk -- SpanKY lewk^: lets buy matching gentoo hats lewk^ SpanKY: that'd be pretty gay lewk^ but i like it! SpanKY lewk^: goddamn right you like it ! SpanKY i dont even wear hats but i'd do it for you ! -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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I played WoW for a several months early on during the original and then quit. Then I played for a number of months after Burning Crusade came out and then quit. Now I've recently started playing again since Wrath of the Lich King. I gotta say that WotLK has been the most unsatisfying so far. Blizzard really has put the game on easy mode. Kind of makes a lot of the game feel meaningless (which I guess it ultimately is!). Probably also has to do with the fact that the WoW graphics feel seriously dated now, and though I do find them stylistically very nice still, it doesn't have the same kind of grand feeling that was there in the original. I'm ready for Starcraft 2!! Scott On Oct 25, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Brian Weeden wrote: I played, maxed levels and crafting and quit WoW before Onyxia was beaten. So yeah, I'm old school :) --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Joe User joeu...@chronic.org wrote: Hello Brian, Saturday, October 24, 2009, 3:16:35 PM, you wrote: Taking our time to work through the entire Temple of Atal'hakkar in WoW with some close friends in one sitting and appreciating the little details the designers put in. Wow, that's old school. That's still one of my favorite instances. -- Regards, joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key... ...now these points of data make a beautiful line...
Re: [H] WSUS in a repair shop environment
I only Googled this... (Never used it.) Q.Is WSUS free? A. Yes. Windows Server Update Services is free and is available to download at no cost. Each managed client requires a Windows Server CAL. To download the software, see the Download WSUS page. That might be a deal killer... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wsus/bb466205.aspx Rick Glazier From: Christopher Fisk I hope someone has an idea on this one: I want to use our internal WSUS as a patch server for PC's that we repair or sell, but then want to make the machine no longer use the WSUS server when they are delivered back to the customer. Is there a simple way of using the WSUS in this fashion?
Re: [H] WSUS in a repair shop environment
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Rick Glazier wrote: I only Googled this... (Never used it.) Q.Is WSUS free? A. Yes. Windows Server Update Services is free and is available to download at no cost. Each managed client requires a Windows Server CAL. To download the software, see the Download WSUS page. That might be a deal killer... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wsus/bb466205.aspx We have enough CAL's for the machines I will be managing at a time. When the machines are no longer managed (I.E. -- returned to regular windows update) that will free up the server CAL. Christopher Fisk -- You know you're using the computer too much when: at the beach with your laptop, you run emerge -C bikini -- C J Pro -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
Re: [H] WSUS in a repair shop environment
When you've completed updating, just delete the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate key. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 2:11 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] WSUS in a repair shop environment On Mon, 26 Oct 2009, Rick Glazier wrote: I only Googled this... (Never used it.) Q.Is WSUS free? A. Yes. Windows Server Update Services is free and is available to download at no cost. Each managed client requires a Windows Server CAL. To download the software, see the Download WSUS page. That might be a deal killer... http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/wsus/bb466205.aspx We have enough CAL's for the machines I will be managing at a time. When the machines are no longer managed (I.E. -- returned to regular windows update) that will free up the server CAL. Christopher Fisk -- You know you're using the computer too much when: at the beach with your laptop, you run emerge -C bikini -- C J Pro -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
