[H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives
I've got several 250 GB Seagate drives that used to be in my HTPC RAID. They've been replaced by 1 TB drives so now I'm looking to use them elsewhere. I am trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit which I just purchased on one of those drives. The drive detects perfectly fine in BIOS, has no problems, but the Win 7 setup will not find it or show it as an option to install to. If I put another drive on that same exact connector/cable, it detects it. Is there something that the RAID adapter/software could have changed on the drive to cause this? When I migrated to the new RAID, I copied all the data from the old RAID to the new one which was running on a new controller. I then just disconnected all the old 250 GB drives and put them in storage. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
Re: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives
Hello Brian, You might want to check to see if there is no bad sectors between LBA 0 and 2048 on the drive. If the computer can detect the hard drive, but the OS install cannot this is usually what he problem is. Regards Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:31 AM To: hwg Subject: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives I've got several 250 GB Seagate drives that used to be in my HTPC RAID. They've been replaced by 1 TB drives so now I'm looking to use them elsewhere. I am trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit which I just purchased on one of those drives. The drive detects perfectly fine in BIOS, has no problems, but the Win 7 setup will not find it or show it as an option to install to. If I put another drive on that same exact connector/cable, it detects it. Is there something that the RAID adapter/software could have changed on the drive to cause this? When I migrated to the new RAID, I copied all the data from the old RAID to the new one which was running on a new controller. I then just disconnected all the old 250 GB drives and put them in storage. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
Re: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives
Thanks Tim - what's the easiest way to do this? Would Spinrite detect this sort of problem? --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Tim Lider timli...@adv-data.com wrote: Hello Brian, You might want to check to see if there is no bad sectors between LBA 0 and 2048 on the drive. If the computer can detect the hard drive, but the OS install cannot this is usually what he problem is. Regards Tim Lider Sr. Data Recovery Specialist Advanced Data Solutions, LLC http://www.adv-data.com -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Brian Weeden Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 6:31 AM To: hwg Subject: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives I've got several 250 GB Seagate drives that used to be in my HTPC RAID. They've been replaced by 1 TB drives so now I'm looking to use them elsewhere. I am trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit which I just purchased on one of those drives. The drive detects perfectly fine in BIOS, has no problems, but the Win 7 setup will not find it or show it as an option to install to. If I put another drive on that same exact connector/cable, it detects it. Is there something that the RAID adapter/software could have changed on the drive to cause this? When I migrated to the new RAID, I copied all the data from the old RAID to the new one which was running on a new controller. I then just disconnected all the old 250 GB drives and put them in storage. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
Re: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives
Brian, Did you reformat (erase) these 250GB drives before you put them in storage? Or, do you mean you can not even get W7 to reformat these drives? That would be a pisser! As they were p/o a raid array, W7 may be seeing some special formatting in the initial sectors (by the raid controller) and by-passes the drive because the rest of the array is missing. Only thing I can think of. Recall talk before about different raid controllers doing different stuff to drives and making them hard to move/re-use to/on other raid controllers. Best, Duncan Brian Weeden wrote: I've got several 250 GB Seagate drives that used to be in my HTPC RAID. They've been replaced by 1 TB drives so now I'm looking to use them elsewhere. I am trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit which I just purchased on one of those drives. The drive detects perfectly fine in BIOS, has no problems, but the Win 7 setup will not find it or show it as an option to install to. If I put another drive on that same exact connector/cable, it detects it. Is there something that the RAID adapter/software could have changed on the drive to cause this? When I migrated to the new RAID, I copied all the data from the old RAID to the new one which was running on a new controller. I then just disconnected all the old 250 GB drives and put them in storage. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
Re: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives
I did not reformat them. I guess I should start there. I found one of the 250GB drives that worked, so I'm guessing it is probably an error along the lines of what Tim suggested. Once I'm done with the re-install, I'm going to get one of those cool SATA docks and go through and check and wipe all the drives just to make sure. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM, DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net wrote: Brian, Did you reformat (erase) these 250GB drives before you put them in storage? Or, do you mean you can not even get W7 to reformat these drives? That would be a pisser! As they were p/o a raid array, W7 may be seeing some special formatting in the initial sectors (by the raid controller) and by-passes the drive because the rest of the array is missing. Only thing I can think of. Recall talk before about different raid controllers doing different stuff to drives and making them hard to move/re-use to/on other raid controllers. Best, Duncan Brian Weeden wrote: I've got several 250 GB Seagate drives that used to be in my HTPC RAID. They've been replaced by 1 TB drives so now I'm looking to use them elsewhere. I am trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit which I just purchased on one of those drives. The drive detects perfectly fine in BIOS, has no problems, but the Win 7 setup will not find it or show it as an option to install to. If I put another drive on that same exact connector/cable, it detects it. Is there something that the RAID adapter/software could have changed on the drive to cause this? When I migrated to the new RAID, I copied all the data from the old RAID to the new one which was running on a new controller. I then just disconnected all the old 250 GB drives and put them in storage. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
Re: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives
I had something similar happen to me once with a drive I had been using for Linux installs, dual booting or some such. If I remember right, I had to use a Win PE or Linux disk to delete the partitions and reformat the thing, then the Windows installer could see it.. -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. - Original Message From: Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Tue, December 1, 2009 9:32:40 AM Subject: Re: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives I did not reformat them. I guess I should start there. I found one of the 250GB drives that worked, so I'm guessing it is probably an error along the lines of what Tim suggested. Once I'm done with the re-install, I'm going to get one of those cool SATA docks and go through and check and wipe all the drives just to make sure. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:12 PM, DSinc wrote: Brian, Did you reformat (erase) these 250GB drives before you put them in storage? Or, do you mean you can not even get W7 to reformat these drives? That would be a pisser! As they were p/o a raid array, W7 may be seeing some special formatting in the initial sectors (by the raid controller) and by-passes the drive because the rest of the array is missing. Only thing I can think of. Recall talk before about different raid controllers doing different stuff to drives and making them hard to move/re-use to/on other raid controllers. Best, Duncan Brian Weeden wrote: I've got several 250 GB Seagate drives that used to be in my HTPC RAID. They've been replaced by 1 TB drives so now I'm looking to use them elsewhere. I am trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit which I just purchased on one of those drives. The drive detects perfectly fine in BIOS, has no problems, but the Win 7 setup will not find it or show it as an option to install to. If I put another drive on that same exact connector/cable, it detects it. Is there something that the RAID adapter/software could have changed on the drive to cause this? When I migrated to the new RAID, I copied all the data from the old RAID to the new one which was running on a new controller. I then just disconnected all the old 250 GB drives and put them in storage. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US
[H] my primary system got hosed
I have a Win7 RC1 and Vista 64 bit Home premium dual boot PC. The hard drive is partitioned with two primary partitions, Win7 is the first primary and is the active drive, and Vista is on the second primary. The rest of the drive consists of an extended partition with two logical drives. This has been dual booting just fine until last week. In my attempt to clean up Win7 before upgrading to Win7 PRO I, without realizing it's importance, deleted the boot folder on the C drive. My plan was to install Win7 and then slowly make the migration from my Vista install. However upon rebooting I am no longer able to get into Vista. I get different errors depending on which fix I just tried, winload.exe not found, registry corrupt, this sort of thing. It was obvious to me that the boot loader had lost it's path but all attempts to repair it, including the use of DualBootPRO, failed. Actually, the first thing I tried was to recover my one week old Acronis backup. I recovered both the Win 7 and Vista partitions as well as theMBR, but surprisingly, Vista still will not boot? This must have something to do with both Vista and Win7 claiming the C drive upon loading but I can't figure it out. I am out of ideas, any thoughts?
Re: [H] my primary system got hosed
What version of Acronis TI did you use? Thanks Rick Glazier From: Winterlight Actually, the first thing I tried was to recover my one week old Acronis backup. I recovered both the Win 7 and Vista partitions as well as theMBR, but surprisingly, Vista still will not boot? This must have something to do with both Vista and Win7 claiming the C drive upon loading but I can't figure it out. I am out of ideas, any thoughts?
Re: [H] Win 7 setup not recognizing drives
I tried to put the RTM of Win7 on an old drive that once had a working (bootable) WinME on it. (Single drive, standard PATA configuration.) There was something about the mix of old and new bootloaders that caused me all sorts of trouble. IIRC it would still try to boot Win-ME, but could not... I WIPED the old drive and everything went well after that. Rick Glazier From: JRS I had something similar happen to me once with a drive I had been using for Linux installs, dual booting or some such. If I remember right, I had to use a Win PE or Linux disk to delete the partitions and reformat the thing, then the Windows installer could see it.. From: Brian Weeden I did not reformat them. I guess I should start there. I found one of the 250GB drives that worked, so I'm guessing it is probably an error along the lines of what Tim suggested. Once I'm done with the re-install, I'm going to get one of those cool SATA docks and go through and check and wipe all the drives just to make sure.
Re: [H] my primary system got hosed
I used v2009 from within vista and it worked fine on restoring Win7 At 11:28 AM 12/1/2009, you wrote: What version of Acronis TI did you use? Thanks Rick Glazier From: Winterlight Actually, the first thing I tried was to recover my one week old Acronis backup. I recovered both the Win 7 and Vista partitions as well as theMBR, but surprisingly, Vista still will not boot? This must have something to do with both Vista and Win7 claiming the C drive upon loading but I can't figure it out. I am out of ideas, any thoughts?
