Re: [H] Cores with Different Temps at Idle?

2010-01-23 Thread Rick Glazier

I did a quick scan of that thread at your link.
It reminded me about the different patterns Arctic Silver recommends 
for the CPU top surface heatsink covers.

They have showed X-Ray pictures of the covered dies, and EXACTLY
where to apply the paste. They approach it like a Science, not an art...
I assume you saw that, but if not it might help IF ONLY a little.

Rick Glazier

From: Anthony Q. Martin
Well, google is my friend.  It turns out this temp diff between cores is 
quite common for Intel Core 2 chips.  Many have reported about it for 
quad cores.  Here is just one thread:


http://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2t=60434


[H] Bioshock

2010-01-23 Thread Winterlight
I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars 
deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but 
after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650 
with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but 
not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560 
X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on the graphics.


I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot) 
into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no 
av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire 
enabled.  This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed 
through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars 
appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and 
crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings.


I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no 
patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced 
the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is 
there something I can do to continue?


thanks
W



Re: [H] Bioshock

2010-01-23 Thread Anthony Martin
Try XP mode in Win7. 
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-Original Message-
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:17:41 
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Bioshock

I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars 
deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but 
after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650 
with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but 
not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560 
X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on the graphics.

I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot) 
into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no 
av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire 
enabled.  This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed 
through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars 
appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and 
crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings.

I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no 
patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced 
the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is 
there something I can do to continue?

thanks
W



[H] Off - topic

2010-01-23 Thread Robert Turnbull



Some years ago, a member of the list wrote about an attachment that 
he mailed to his buddy at work.


When it was opened, the sound volume went way up and a loud voice 
said Look everybody, I'm watching porno,


and simultaneously porn pictures briefly flashed on the screen. 
Instant panic!!!


I have a couple of sons  in their 40's that I'd like to try this on.

Does anyone know the source of this attachment.

Be well.

Robert Turnbull, Toronto, Canada



Re: [H] Bioshock

2010-01-23 Thread Winterlight

At 10:44 AM 1/23/2010, you wrote:

Try XP mode in Win7.


it won't work... XP mode can't support the graphics ...maxes out at 
16 colors for one.





Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:17:41
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Bioshock

I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars
deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but
after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650
with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but
not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560
X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on the graphics.

I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot)
into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no
av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire
enabled.  This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed
through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars
appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and
crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings.

I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no
patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced
the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is
there something I can do to continue?

thanks
W




Re: [H] Bioshock

2010-01-23 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

Have you read this:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprovirt/thread/12a17fa5-ddab-4480-8973-1a13bfb2e8fd

On 1/23/2010 5:43 PM, Winterlight wrote:

At 10:44 AM 1/23/2010, you wrote:

Try XP mode in Win7.


it won't work... XP mode can't support the graphics ...maxes out at 16 
colors for one.





Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:17:41
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Bioshock

I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars
deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but
after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650
with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but
not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560
X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on the 
graphics.


I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot)
into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no
av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire
enabled.  This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed
through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars
appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and
crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings.

I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no
patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced
the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is
there something I can do to continue?

thanks
W




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Re: [H] Bioshock

2010-01-23 Thread Winterlight


No, but I am running windows 7 XP mode and it is just not suited for 
running a game as graphic intensive as Bioshock on a 30 inch 
monitor.  It is less capable with graphics then VMware and I don't 
know anybody running graphic intensive games on VMware. XP mode was 
designed to run proprietary business applications that would not run 
on Win7 and was never intended for gaming which is why it is 
available only in the Pro version.


Do you have experience running graphic intensive games in XP mode or 
any virtual machine?




At 03:12 PM 1/23/2010, you wrote:

Have you read this:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprovirt/thread/12a17fa5-ddab-4480-8973-1a13bfb2e8fd

On 1/23/2010 5:43 PM, Winterlight wrote:

At 10:44 AM 1/23/2010, you wrote:

Try XP mode in Win7.


it won't work... XP mode can't support the graphics ...maxes out at 
16 colors for one.





Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:17:41
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Bioshock

I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars
deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but
after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650
with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but
not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560
X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on 
the graphics.


I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot)
into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no
av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire
enabled.  This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed
through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars
appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and
crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings.

I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no
patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced
the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is
there something I can do to continue?

thanks
W




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Re: [H] Bioshock

2010-01-23 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

No. Just shooting out ideas.

On 1/23/2010 6:32 PM, Winterlight wrote:


No, but I am running windows 7 XP mode and it is just not suited for 
running a game as graphic intensive as Bioshock on a 30 inch monitor.  
It is less capable with graphics then VMware and I don't know anybody 
running graphic intensive games on VMware. XP mode was designed to run 
proprietary business applications that would not run on Win7 and was 
never intended for gaming which is why it is available only in the Pro 
version.


Do you have experience running graphic intensive games in XP mode or 
any virtual machine?




At 03:12 PM 1/23/2010, you wrote:

Have you read this:

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itprovirt/thread/12a17fa5-ddab-4480-8973-1a13bfb2e8fd 



On 1/23/2010 5:43 PM, Winterlight wrote:

At 10:44 AM 1/23/2010, you wrote:

Try XP mode in Win7.


it won't work... XP mode can't support the graphics ...maxes out at 
16 colors for one.





Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Winterlight winterli...@winterlight.org
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 10:17:41
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Bioshock

I picked up Bioshock last month on one of those games for 5 dollars
deals. I installed it in Win 7 64 bit and started playing it but
after a while it just didn't feel that smooth. My hardware is a Q9650
with 8 GB of RAM, Velociraptor, and two 4970s in Win 7 PRO ... but
not running crossfire. I didn't need crossfire as I could run at 2560
X 1600 on my 30 inch monitor and it installed with all ,maxed on 
the graphics.


I thought maybe it is a compatibility issue. So I booted (dual boot)
into my previous Vista 64 which I had stripped down to basics... no
av, no firewall, no nothing running, and this time crossfire
enabled.  This did feel better but eventually, as I progressed
through the game I started getting video artifacts = red stars
appearing during game play, in large numbers, and then locks, and
crashes and a inability to remember my keyboard settings.

I tried the latest ATI drivers, a reinstall of the game (there is no
patch), and then tried booting back to win7 to see if I experienced
the same thing.. and I did. So is this just a XP32 sort of game or is
there something I can do to continue?

thanks
W




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