Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?

2010-05-12 Thread Christopher Fisk

On Wed, 12 May 2010, Bino Gopal wrote:



Well thought I'd share my results as a data point:


Got a Lenovo (aka IBM) T61 laptop from circa late 2007.  It's the Santa 
Rosa mobile platform, specifically an Intel Core 2 Duo Merom 2nd gen 
processor (T7500 @ 2.2Ghz).  I don't know what the exact chipset is 
(anyone know an easy way to find that with an app...?) but in any case 
the chipset it what usually came with that chip.



So I installed Win7 Ent 64-bit (and remember I only have 4GB TOTAL 
memory installed) and on the System screen, the machine went from saying 
3.2GB usable out of the 4GB installed (which was with Win7 32-bit), to 
just saying a plain 4GB RAM installed with nothing missing...


So it looks like even though I only have 4GB physical memory, the MMIO 
devices don't need to reserve any of my 4GB of memory b/c they can map 
above it (I assume up to 8GB in my case).  So based on the KB article, I 
assume if I upgraded to 8GB of RAM, it would show 7.2GB of RAM b/c then 
the devices would still need to map and since 8GB is their max, it would 
take away from my physical memory...I'll see if I can get 8GB of RAM for 
it and test this out! ;)


Incorrect unfortunately.  There were so many complaints/questions from 
people with the I have 4GB installed why does it only say 3.5GB that 
Microsoft now reports the INSTALLED memory as the full 4GB, but you still 
can't use it all.  I believe in 32bit Windows 7 you can see the true 
number in task manager or process explorer.


http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

Microsoft isn't kidding when they say 4GB for windows 7.  They are not 
mapping things above that.  They just removed showing you the real number 
in the system tab.



Christopher Fisk


[H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird.
I still like it, sort of.
Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM.
I accept total fault now :(
Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my 
learning curve. I have no other option!

I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal!
I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of 
these portals!

Thank you.
Best,
D


Re: [H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?

2010-05-12 Thread maccrawj

What's the problem Duncan?

On 5/12/2010 12:49 PM, DSinc wrote:

I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird.
I still like it, sort of.
Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM.
I accept total fault now :(
Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my
learning curve. I have no other option!
I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal!
I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of
these portals!
Thank you.
Best,
D



Re: [H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?

2010-05-12 Thread Stan Zaske
I'm using 3.0.4 and I don't like it. I think the new directory structure 
in the left pane is a pain. My SPAM has increased exponentially in the 
past week or so as well. Anybody else seeing this?



On 5/12/2010 2:49 PM, DSinc wrote:

I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird.
I still like it, sort of.
Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM.
I accept total fault now :(
Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my 
learning curve. I have no other option!

I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal!
I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of 
these portals!

Thank you.
Best,
D





Re: [H] Mozilla Thunderbird Experts ?

2010-05-12 Thread maccrawj
Bothered me when I first upgraded to TB3 but I've gotten use to it. Typically it 
stays on unread folders 99% of the time which serves me fine.


SPAM wise nothing unusual here, light flow of new unfiltered, don't check my junk 
that often.


On 5/12/2010 1:39 PM, Stan Zaske wrote:

I'm using 3.0.4 and I don't like it. I think the new directory structure
in the left pane is a pain. My SPAM has increased exponentially in the
past week or so as well. Anybody else seeing this?


On 5/12/2010 2:49 PM, DSinc wrote:

I would like to speak with anyone who understands Mozilla-Thunderbird.
I still like it, sort of.
Mozzy/TBIRD is trying my patience ATM.
I accept total fault now :(
Will admit it may be my DunderHead code-driving ability. Still in my
learning curve. I have no other option!
I will NOT do email via a browser-based EMAIL Portal!
I have 2 of these portals now. HWG mail inbound traverses neither of
these portals!
Thank you.
Best,
D






Re: [H] Win7 Ent 32-bit vs 64-bit?

2010-05-12 Thread maccrawj
Well 32bit I dunno as none of my x32 boxes have more than 2GB. Process Explorer lists 
4,192,372 here on Win7 x64.


They adjusted the reported amount for x32 but it was a minor 3GB fractional amount 
not to report fake full 4GB.


On 5/12/2010 12:36 PM, Christopher Fisk wrote:

Incorrect unfortunately. There were so many complaints/questions from
people with the I have 4GB installed why does it only say 3.5GB that
Microsoft now reports the INSTALLED memory as the full 4GB, but you
still can't use it all. I believe in 32bit Windows 7 you can see the
true number in task manager or process explorer.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778%28v=VS.85%29.aspx

Microsoft isn't kidding when they say 4GB for windows 7. They are not
mapping things above that. They just removed showing you the real number
in the system tab.


Christopher Fisk



Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700

2010-05-12 Thread Naushad Zulfiqar
Keep the n band for the TiVo and the other for the laptop.

Glad you like the router. Mine has been rock solid for months now.

Probably the best router I have owned.

Let me know how the signal strength is near the TiVo.

On my Google phone I downloaded an app called wifi analyzer. And it let me
find the least crowded channel for my wifi. Worked like a charm.

I suggest doing the same via your laptop. I forgot the name of the software
but it does the same thing.

On May 12, 2010 10:32 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote:

Bam!

I got my Dell Latitude XT to recognize the 5G band of the 3700!  Now it
reports 270 Mbps.  Haven't had time to test it, though, but that's a feel
good moment.

Turns out the problems was the damn laptop.  It has a Dell Wireless 1505
Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini card in it. Googling revealed all kind of problems
with this cardbut I finally got around to looking for a Windows 7 64-bit
driver. That got me to someone claiming that the updated driver for this
device has the problems. So the solution was the delete it (and the files
too) and let Win7 reinstall its stock driver.  Well, lo and behold, the
laptop now sees both the 2.4 and 5 G band networks, as well as their SSIDs.
 Simple matter after that to get up and going.

Not sure I'm going to let the laptop live there, though. I don't really need
it for faster downloads. I'd like to give all of that bandwidth to my Tivo
downstairs, if possible. On the other hand...I don't use the laptop that
much here so sharing probably wouldn't be much of a problem. But now I can
use the laptop to see what kind of 5GHz signal I get downstairs near the
Tivo.

I swore a long time ago to NEVER buy another dell anything.  What I didn't
swear was to let someone else buy me a dell something. Well, no more dell
for me. Period.  Same with Apple.

Did y'all hear that Verzion and Google claim to be working on an Android
Tablet? I hope they keep on track with that as competition is a good thing.



On 5/12/2010 1:59 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

 
  Are both n and g enabled?
 
  Set the band to 6 just to make sure. Also give the firmware update...

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  Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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[H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now 
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?


No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan


Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Veech

Still wired LAN at my house.

- Original Message - 
From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net

To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 16:24
Subject: [H] Open question?


Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now 
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?


No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan


Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

tnx Veech. (thought so!)
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 19:30, Veech wrote:

Still wired LAN at my house.

- Original Message - From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 16:24
Subject: [H] Open question?



Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan




Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Anthony Martin
Wired is the best option if you can make it happen for all needs. But wifi 
works great for lots of applications. 
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 19:24:52 
To: Hardware Grouphardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] Open question?

Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now 
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan


Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread FORC5
both.

fp

At 04:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc Poked the stick with:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now 
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan

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Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700

2010-05-12 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

yep, the router rocks. Can't believe I went so long without upgrading.

Never thought to match the channel...need that software

On 5/12/2010 7:05 PM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

Keep the n band for the TiVo and the other for the laptop.

Glad you like the router. Mine has been rock solid for months now.

Probably the best router I have owned.

Let me know how the signal strength is near the TiVo.

On my Google phone I downloaded an app called wifi analyzer. And it let me
find the least crowded channel for my wifi. Worked like a charm.

I suggest doing the same via your laptop. I forgot the name of the software
but it does the same thing.

On May 12, 2010 10:32 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net  wrote:

Bam!

I got my Dell Latitude XT to recognize the 5G band of the 3700!  Now it
reports 270 Mbps.  Haven't had time to test it, though, but that's a feel
good moment.

Turns out the problems was the damn laptop.  It has a Dell Wireless 1505
Draft 802.11n WLAN Mini card in it. Googling revealed all kind of problems
with this cardbut I finally got around to looking for a Windows 7 64-bit
driver. That got me to someone claiming that the updated driver for this
device has the problems. So the solution was the delete it (and the files
too) and let Win7 reinstall its stock driver.  Well, lo and behold, the
laptop now sees both the 2.4 and 5 G band networks, as well as their SSIDs.
  Simple matter after that to get up and going.

Not sure I'm going to let the laptop live there, though. I don't really need
it for faster downloads. I'd like to give all of that bandwidth to my Tivo
downstairs, if possible. On the other hand...I don't use the laptop that
much here so sharing probably wouldn't be much of a problem. But now I can
use the laptop to see what kind of 5GHz signal I get downstairs near the
Tivo.

I swore a long time ago to NEVER buy another dell anything.  What I didn't
swear was to let someone else buy me a dell something. Well, no more dell
for me. Period.  Same with Apple.

Did y'all hear that Verzion and Google claim to be working on an Android
Tablet? I hope they keep on track with that as competition is a good thing.



On 5/12/2010 1:59 AM, Naushad Zulfiqar wrote:

   

Are both n and g enabled?

Set the band to 6 just to make sure. Also give the firmware update...
   
 

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.819 / Virus...
   





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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2870 - Release Date: 05/12/10 
14:26:00

   


Re: [H] NetGear WNDR3700

2010-05-12 Thread FORC5
no trouble here with mine and it is connected to a Netgear bridge. model eludes 
me at the moment.
fp

At 07:57 PM 5/11/2010, Anthony Q. Martin Poked the stick with:
Man...none of my stuff can see any wireless signals coming from this router.  
I'm wondering if it is sending out any signals.  It's setup to broadcast its 
SSID but even with my laptop right next to it, it can't see it. What gives 
here?  The wired 1000Gbps ports work fine and the lights for the 2.4GHZ and 5 
GHz wireless are shining bright.

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Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread James Maki
Wired, but run wireless for the daughter's laptop when she visits from
college.

Jim 

 -Original Message-
 From: DSinc
 
 Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this 
 LIST is now 
 actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?



Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Robert Martin Jr.
Everything important in my place is wired and gigabit speed running through a 
managed switch with QOS. Even on N-band wifi, transferring videos that are 
13-15GB each could take a really long time.  I have a wireless setup just for 
my daughter laptop and I use it occasionally with my laptop if I'm outside on 
the porch.

lopaka





From: DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net
To: Hardware Group hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 4:24:52 PM
Subject: [H] Open question?

Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now actively 
using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan


Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Jason Carson
Both

 Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
 actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

 No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
 The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

 (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

 Just wondering?
 Best,
 Duncan





Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Michael Resnick

Desktops are wired, Laptops are WiFi.


At 07:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is 
now actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?


No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan

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Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Stan Zaske

I will never go wireless. Ever!


On 5/12/2010 6:24 PM, DSinc wrote:
Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now 
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?


No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan





Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Gary VanderMolen

I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


-Original Message- 
From: DSinc



Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?



Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Bryan Seitz
I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit 
is not bad.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
 I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
 Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?
 
 Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: DSinc
 
 
 Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
 actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

Stan,
TNX.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 21:11, Stan Zaske wrote:

I will never go wireless. Ever!


On 5/12/2010 6:24 PM, DSinc wrote:

Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan








Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

Gary,
Understand the lifestyle change; and your creds.
Suppose I am still a desktop-junkie.
No harm, no foul. Just wondering.
TNX,
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 21:47, Gary VanderMolen wrote:

I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


-Original Message- From: DSinc


Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?




Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play 
everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about.

But, TNX anyway.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:

I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit
is not bad.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:

I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


-Original Message-
From: DSinc


Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?




Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Tony Riederer
A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some wireless,
and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired.
Tony

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Open question?

Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play 
everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about.
But, TNX anyway.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:
 I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit
 is not bad.

 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:
 I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
 Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?

 Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


 -Original Message-
 From: DSinc


 Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
 actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?




Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

Michael,
TNX. This seems to be a new norm.
I don't do laptops yet.
Duncan

On 05/12/2010 20:13, Michael Resnick wrote:

Desktops are wired, Laptops are WiFi.


At 07:24 PM 5/12/2010, DSinc wrote:

Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan

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Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

Tony,
TNX, Interesting. I still do sneakernet now via my new USB FD's.
Old habits die hard.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 22:30, Tony Riederer wrote:

A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some wireless,
and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired.
Tony

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Open question?

Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about.
But, TNX anyway.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:

I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit
is not bad.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:

I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


-Original Message-
From: DSinc


Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?







Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Julian Zottl
Yep, I use a combination of wired (2xNetgear GS108T) and wireless
(Netgear WNR3500).
 Wireless is strictly for my work laptop and any friends that come over, all
of my desktops are wired as well as my PS3/Denon.

Julian


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM, DSinc dx7...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Tony,
 TNX, Interesting. I still do sneakernet now via my new USB FD's.
 Old habits die hard.
 Duncan



 On 05/12/2010 22:30, Tony Riederer wrote:

 A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some
 wireless,
 and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired.
 Tony

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] Open question?

 Bryan,
 In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
 everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about.
 But, TNX anyway.
 Duncan


 On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:

 I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit
 is not bad.

 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:

 I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
 Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?

 Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


 -Original Message-
 From: DSinc


 Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
 actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?







Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread Greg Sevart
Wired for all workstations, servers, and devices/appliances (ie: TV, blu-ray
player, Dish receivers).
WiFi N for laptops
WiFi G for phones/other that don't speak N

Wireless is great for any device you don't want to be tethered on, but
nothing beats the performance, security, and reliability of good old
fashioned twisted pair.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware-
 boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
 Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
 To: Hardware Group
 Subject: [H] Open question?
 
 Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively
 using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
 
 No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
 The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
 
 (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)
 
 Just wondering?
 Best,
 Duncan




Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

Julian,
TNX. I suspected.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 22:43, Julian Zottl wrote:

Yep, I use a combination of wired (2xNetgear GS108T) and wireless
(Netgear WNR3500).
  Wireless is strictly for my work laptop and any friends that come over, all
of my desktops are wired as well as my PS3/Denon.

Julian


On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:42 PM, DSincdx7...@bellsouth.net  wrote:


Tony,
TNX, Interesting. I still do sneakernet now via my new USB FD's.
Old habits die hard.
Duncan



On 05/12/2010 22:30, Tony Riederer wrote:


A bunch of wired with a mix of CAT 5,5E,6 over the years. And some
wireless,
and Sneaker net here. Still prefer the hard wired.
Tony

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [H] Open question?

Bryan,
In my very simple ask, YOU may not count; because I figure you play
everywhere, by necessity. Even in places I do not need to know about.
But, TNX anyway.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 21:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:


I do, if I'm transferring large files although true 802.11N @ 3xxMbit
is not bad.

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 06:47:48PM -0700, Gary VanderMolen wrote:


I switched to Wi-Fi only when I got rid of the last desktop machine.
Who wants his laptop to be tethered to a bulky ethernet cable?

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)


-Original Message-
From: DSinc


Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now
actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?











Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread DSinc

Greg,
TNX. I've always known you were into it all... :)
Logic for WIFI makes sense; though I still fear it.
Duncan


On 05/12/2010 23:04, Greg Sevart wrote:

Wired for all workstations, servers, and devices/appliances (ie: TV, blu-ray
player, Dish receivers).
WiFi N for laptops
WiFi G for phones/other that don't speak N

Wireless is great for any device you don't want to be tethered on, but
nothing beats the performance, security, and reliability of good old
fashioned twisted pair.


-Original Message-
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boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of DSinc
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 6:25 PM
To: Hardware Group
Subject: [H] Open question?

Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now

actively

using WIFI for their internal home LANs?

No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)

(Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)

Just wondering?
Best,
Duncan






Re: [H] Open question?

2010-05-12 Thread John R Steinbruner
Both

Both PC's, the laser printer, and both NAS boxen in the computer room are all 
on a wired Gigabit switch...

NAS transfers are very fast that way...  :)

But I use wireless for the MacBook Pro laptop and the Xbox 360 in the living 
room where I don't have any ethernet cables..

Works very well for me..



On May 12, 2010, at 4:24 PM, DSinc wrote:

 Is it fair for me to NOW believe that the majority of this LIST is now 
 actively using WIFI for their internal home LANs?
 
 No. I do not wish to start a firestorm with those that use both!
 The basic question is about the use of WIFI... :)
 
 (Are there many of us old fools still using only wired CAT5/6 LANs?)
 
 Just wondering?
 Best,
 Duncan


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