Re: [H] Outlook 2007 export
That easy -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 10:19 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Outlook 2007 export Is it really that easy? Doesn't it have to be imported, and syncd in the registry or some other encrypted file? At 07:27 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote: Just replace the new .pst file with the old .pst file. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:18 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Outlook 2007 export I know there are serious Outlook users on the list. I have a friends PC with a lot of data in their Outlook 2007 program. They have a new PC with Office 2007 so they want to export from the old, and import to the new. A data check shows they have have a business contact folder, two personal folders, and a email folder. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? Is there any freeware that will make this easy? Also once I do this can I import all the Outlook email to their GMAIL account? Thanks
Re: [H] [Bulk] Re: New Intel SSD tool out.
Intel? Who dat? On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:47:35 -0500, John R Steinbruner stei...@pacbell.net wrote: Hmm I woulda thought there would be some Intel SSD users in this group.. :) On Sep 12, 2010, at 1:18 AM, John R Steinbruner wrote: for you Intel SSD users. New version 2.0.0 also optimizes things like turning off pre-fetch and other settings as well as doing Trim and such on XP installations... :) -- JRS stei...@pacbell.net Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored. -- Opera's e-mail client Main Machine: Generic Steel Case Gigabyte 785G/SB710 Mobo AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Default speed) Corsair DDR2 1066 (2x2=4) Palit GTX460 1 Gig (OC'd to 865 MHz) WD Cariar Black 640 Gig Lite On 22X DVD Burner Acer 24 Monitor fold...@home (11,000 PPD) Game Box: Cooler Master CM690 Mid-Tower Gigabyte 785G/SB710 AMD Phenom II X2 555 C3 Corsair Dominator RAM 2 gigs PowerColor HD5770 1 gig Seasonic 550 watt PSU Seagate 7200.12 500 gig LiteOn DVD Burner
Re: [H] Building a file server?
So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Outlook 2007 export
I think it is a good idea to put the .pst file in a reasonable location rather than using MSs default, which is weird, from a user POV. On 9/16/2010 11:19 PM, Winterlight wrote: Is it really that easy? Doesn't it have to be imported, and syncd in the registry or some other encrypted file? At 07:27 PM 9/16/2010, you wrote: Just replace the new .pst file with the old .pst file. -Original Message- From: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com [mailto:hardware- boun...@hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Winterlight Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 9:18 PM To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Outlook 2007 export I know there are serious Outlook users on the list. I have a friends PC with a lot of data in their Outlook 2007 program. They have a new PC with Office 2007 so they want to export from the old, and import to the new. A data check shows they have have a business contact folder, two personal folders, and a email folder. What is the easiest way to accomplish this? Is there any freeware that will make this easy? Also once I do this can I import all the Outlook email to their GMAIL account? Thanks No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
On what? Ubunto? On 9/17/2010 12:11 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: I do, but not on windows :) On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:17:38AM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.netwrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
Depending on what you're doing, I have several suggestions. FreeNAS: Excellent FREE product that turns your machine into a NAS/Bittorent client (Transmission)/UPnP server (I use it to stream to a PS3)/iTunes/DAAP server. It has support for hardware RAID and software RAID. Support FTP/SMB(Windows file shares)/NFS/Rsync etc. http://www.freenas.org Windows 2008: Great server OS, but not cheap. You can run pretty much any services you want from it, like the PS3 streaming server, fold...@home etc. Supports SMB and NFS. Julian On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: 1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
At 09:42 AM 9/17/2010, you wrote: 1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). If you aren't talking about TBs of stored streaming video, or services you need to run from a server, and your primary concern is data access, and security, then it is going to be hard to beat Dropbox. It is a online service where you install an app, it creates a folder in my documents or where ever you want to put it called Dropbox and then it continually syncs that folder with all your other computers that have your Dropbox account installed, as well as providing a secure website where you can log in and retrieve your data. So your data is on any computers with internet access where you have installed dropbox as well as being in the cloud. It is seamless, install and forget. It doesn't get in the way, doesn't have any issues, it is the best, most useful app I have seen in a decade. I have been using it for over a year now and not a single issue or complaint. There is all sorts of cool things you can do with it. Put a Truecypt drive in your dropbox if your worried about security. There is a public folder you can make available to others. You can create a folder that you share with other specified peoples dropbox... this is how I transfer data back and forth with my partner, and my sisters, each in a private folder. Perfect for people who don't understand what a upload is. It can install on a Iphone, a droid, a blackberry. You get two GBs free and 100GB costs only 100 bucks a year. If you aren't streaming multimedia, or running other services, then it isn't worth the cost and hassle of a server, and of course if your house burns down you loose your server but not your Dropbox. Your data is always safe and available. Here is a referral link that will get us both an extra 250megs free, ,give the free one a try and I think you will be impressed. https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE0NDEwOTE5 So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.netwrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
Anthony, I use a NAS. Over the years, building a dedicated File Server always seemed to be more complicated, and, most always ran foul to my chosen ISP's TOS. JMHO. Best, Duncan On 09/17/2010 07:17, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
Last time I checked a file server *IS* a NAS :) On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:48:55PM -0400, DSinc wrote: Anthony, I use a NAS. Over the years, building a dedicated File Server always seemed to be more complicated, and, most always ran foul to my chosen ISP's TOS. JMHO. Best, Duncan On 09/17/2010 07:17, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Building a file server?
FreeBSD and ZFS. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:33:03PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: On what? Ubunto? On 9/17/2010 12:11 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: I do, but not on windows :) On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:17:38AM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 -- Bryan G. Seitz
Re: [H] Building a file server?
If I'm running Win7 on everything, is there an advantage to running Windows Server 2008? I can get the software so cost is not much of an issue here. On 9/17/2010 1:15 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Depending on what you're doing, I have several suggestions. FreeNAS: Excellent FREE product that turns your machine into a NAS/Bittorent client (Transmission)/UPnP server (I use it to stream to a PS3)/iTunes/DAAP server. It has support for hardware RAID and software RAID. Support FTP/SMB(Windows file shares)/NFS/Rsync etc. http://www.freenas.org Windows 2008: Great server OS, but not cheap. You can run pretty much any services you want from it, like the PS3 streaming server, fold...@home etc. Supports SMB and NFS. Julian On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.netwrote: 1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
I have Dropbox on my Droid Incredible, though I have not used it yet. However, I do have about 400 GB of files. Not really sure what all of that is and I doubt I really need to have that much on the cloud, but it would be nice ti just browse the entire amount from any PC. However, the drop box could remove the need to move files back and forth between home and work. These days I carry around a 750 GB usb HD in addition to a 16 GB micro SD card on my keyring. And in addition to my phone and my Kindle. Good grief. I think I'll play with Dropbox though just to see how that works for me... Thx. On 9/17/2010 1:50 PM, Winterlight wrote: At 09:42 AM 9/17/2010, you wrote: 1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). If you aren't talking about TBs of stored streaming video, or services you need to run from a server, and your primary concern is data access, and security, then it is going to be hard to beat Dropbox. It is a online service where you install an app, it creates a folder in my documents or where ever you want to put it called Dropbox and then it continually syncs that folder with all your other computers that have your Dropbox account installed, as well as providing a secure website where you can log in and retrieve your data. So your data is on any computers with internet access where you have installed dropbox as well as being in the cloud. It is seamless, install and forget. It doesn't get in the way, doesn't have any issues, it is the best, most useful app I have seen in a decade. I have been using it for over a year now and not a single issue or complaint. There is all sorts of cool things you can do with it. Put a Truecypt drive in your dropbox if your worried about security. There is a public folder you can make available to others. You can create a folder that you share with other specified peoples dropbox... this is how I transfer data back and forth with my partner, and my sisters, each in a private folder. Perfect for people who don't understand what a upload is. It can install on a Iphone, a droid, a blackberry. You get two GBs free and 100GB costs only 100 bucks a year. If you aren't streaming multimedia, or running other services, then it isn't worth the cost and hassle of a server, and of course if your house burns down you loose your server but not your Dropbox. Your data is always safe and available. Here is a referral link that will get us both an extra 250megs free, ,give the free one a try and I think you will be impressed. https://www.dropbox.com/referrals/NTE0NDEwOTE5 So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.netwrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by
Re: [H] Building a file server?
Duncan, what does TOS mean? I would be serving behind the router, so I don't believe the ISP would get upset. I have all of the hardware for a server, so a NAS would be paying for stuff I already have...basically, I'm trying to get a NAS on the cheap (apart for time to set up). On 9/17/2010 3:48 PM, DSinc wrote: Anthony, I use a NAS. Over the years, building a dedicated File Server always seemed to be more complicated, and, most always ran foul to my chosen ISP's TOS. JMHO. Best, Duncan On 09/17/2010 07:17, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
Sounds like a learning curve... On 9/17/2010 5:20 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: FreeBSD and ZFS. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:33:03PM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: On what? Ubunto? On 9/17/2010 12:11 PM, Bryan Seitz wrote: I do, but not on windows :) On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 07:17:38AM -0400, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
No advantage. Better if you run a linux distro meant to be a file server. On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: If I'm running Win7 on everything, is there an advantage to running Windows Server 2008? I can get the software so cost is not much of an issue here. On 9/17/2010 1:15 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Depending on what you're doing, I have several suggestions. FreeNAS: Excellent FREE product that turns your machine into a NAS/Bittorent client (Transmission)/UPnP server (I use it to stream to a PS3)/iTunes/DAAP server. It has support for hardware RAID and software RAID. Support FTP/SMB(Windows file shares)/NFS/Rsync etc. http://www.freenas.org Windows 2008: Great server OS, but not cheap. You can run pretty much any services you want from it, like the PS3 streaming server, fold...@homeetc. Supports SMB and NFS. Julian On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: 1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Building a file server?
In the end, most of the time I come down to: Freenas - lightweight, can run on anything, I normally boot to freenas on a cf card, and it works just a file dump Or Whs if I want something to store data, connect mediacenters and do automated backups Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:14:00 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Building a file server? No advantage. Better if you run a linux distro meant to be a file server. On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.netwrote: If I'm running Win7 on everything, is there an advantage to running Windows Server 2008? I can get the software so cost is not much of an issue here. On 9/17/2010 1:15 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Depending on what you're doing, I have several suggestions. FreeNAS: Excellent FREE product that turns your machine into a NAS/Bittorent client (Transmission)/UPnP server (I use it to stream to a PS3)/iTunes/DAAP server. It has support for hardware RAID and software RAID. Support FTP/SMB(Windows file shares)/NFS/Rsync etc. http://www.freenas.org Windows 2008: Great server OS, but not cheap. You can run pretty much any services you want from it, like the PS3 streaming server, fold...@homeetc. Supports SMB and NFS. Julian On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: 1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 -- Best Regards, Zulfiqar Naushad
Re: [H] Building a file server?
I am looking at rebuilding my HTPC file server and came across FlexRAID: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlexRAID http://www.openegg.org/FlexRAID.curi I have been using RAID 5 for the last few years and FreeRAID provides what I need (data protection) and alleviates many of the constraints of RAID: all drives need to be the same size,dedicated card, lose more than 1 drive (RAID 5) or 2 drives (RAID 6) and you lose all your data, etc. FlexRAID goes like this. You install Windows or Linux and attach a whole bunch of drives to the system. You then fire up FlexRAID and stipulate which drives have data you want to protect and which drives will be used to store the parity. One of the big downsides is that it only really works for systems where you don't change much of the data constantly - the FlexRAID software needs downtime to be able to update all the parity. But for a media server, that isn't a problem. Just don't use it for your boot drive. --- Brian Weeden Technical Advisor Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada +1 (202) 683-8534 US On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 2:30 PM, tmse...@rlrnews.com wrote: In the end, most of the time I come down to: Freenas - lightweight, can run on anything, I normally boot to freenas on a cf card, and it works just a file dump Or Whs if I want something to store data, connect mediacenters and do automated backups Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Naushad Zulfiqar z00...@gmail.com Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 03:14:00 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Building a file server? No advantage. Better if you run a linux distro meant to be a file server. On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: If I'm running Win7 on everything, is there an advantage to running Windows Server 2008? I can get the software so cost is not much of an issue here. On 9/17/2010 1:15 PM, Julian Zottl wrote: Depending on what you're doing, I have several suggestions. FreeNAS: Excellent FREE product that turns your machine into a NAS/Bittorent client (Transmission)/UPnP server (I use it to stream to a PS3)/iTunes/DAAP server. It has support for hardware RAID and software RAID. Support FTP/SMB(Windows file shares)/NFS/Rsync etc. http://www.freenas.org Windows 2008: Great server OS, but not cheap. You can run pretty much any services you want from it, like the PS3 streaming server, fold...@homeetc. Supports SMB and NFS. Julian On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Anthony Q. Martinamar...@charter.net wrote: 1st, this is for home use. But I frequently work on work stuff at home, so I do consider a lot of my data to be critical to me...but I have a lot of it spread between multiple computers (work and home). So, what would I like to do? 1) store all of my stuff in one placeso I would need RAID and/or backup. 2) be able to stream music to any PC in the house, including phones and slate computers (future) 3) be able to download stuff from/to my TIVO to/from it. (the TIVO files do get big and I really don't need to back those up); but I want my TIVOs to see this server. 4) sync folders between laptop and server (via wireless network) Ultimately, it would be nice to just store all my stuff on it and have it protected and backed up. Then get to it all from over network connection from any PC. I don't need to stream movies. Though neat to do, I can get by without that. Thanks. On 9/17/2010 11:15 AM, Richard Quilhot wrote: RAID would be recommended, if you will be storing critical data and need faster I/O responses. The backup included with Win Server will be the bare basics, I would go with a more robust product like Backup Exec. The bigger question is what do you want it to do? Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Anthony Q. Martin amar...@charter.net wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message.
[H] Router cable?
Is cat5e the right cable to connect my router to my computer? Sam
Re: [H] Router cable?
Yes --Original Message-- From: Sam Franc Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com ReplyTo: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: [H] Router cable? Sent: Sep 17, 2010 8:35 PM Is cat5e the right cable to connect my router to my computer? Sam Sent via BlackBerry
Re: [H] Router cable?
It is the minimum you would need. Rick Q quilh...@gmail.com On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Sam Franc fr...@oregonfast.net wrote: Is cat5e the right cable to connect my router to my computer? Sam
Re: [H] Building a file server?
No one suggesting WHS? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Home_Server
Re: [H] Building a file server?
I am. If you use win7 mce, the tv archiver is great, and add ins are fantastic. But whs v2 is -trash- Sent via BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Eli Allen ealle...@gmail.com Sender: hardware-boun...@hardwaregroup.com Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 21:46:56 To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Reply-To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Building a file server? No one suggesting WHS? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Home_Server
Re: [H] Building a file server?
Bryan, OK. I now stand corrected! LOL! Duncan On 09/17/2010 17:21, Bryan Seitz wrote: Last time I checked a file server *IS* a NAS :) On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 03:48:55PM -0400, DSinc wrote: Anthony, I use a NAS. Over the years, building a dedicated File Server always seemed to be more complicated, and, most always ran foul to my chosen ISP's TOS. JMHO. Best, Duncan On 09/17/2010 07:17, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Building a file server?
Anthony, TOS I use to define Terms Of Service. The legal BS between the user and the ISP. I get the behind the router business. But, in my short past with servers and Services, when they wind up and run the Router is just the Gateway to the World Wide Waste for them. YMMV. Bryan tells me my NAS is just a fancy File Server. I sorta agree. And, the damn thing still needs to phone-home to D-Link and/or to NIST; or, it gets really grumpy! Gawd knows where else it speaks to! I go blind now digging/reading through the NAS log files! Whatever... :) I do NAS. A simple and elegant solution for me. Best, Duncan On 09/17/2010 19:50, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: Duncan, what does TOS mean? I would be serving behind the router, so I don't believe the ISP would get upset. I have all of the hardware for a server, so a NAS would be paying for stuff I already have...basically, I'm trying to get a NAS on the cheap (apart for time to set up). On 9/17/2010 3:48 PM, DSinc wrote: Anthony, I use a NAS. Over the years, building a dedicated File Server always seemed to be more complicated, and, most always ran foul to my chosen ISP's TOS. JMHO. Best, Duncan On 09/17/2010 07:17, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: So, no one here builds their on file servers? Or, are people just using NAS devices? On 9/14/2010 8:00 AM, Anthony Q. Martin wrote: I've got an extra PC here with a Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 3GHz with 2GB ram in a NZXT case. It's got a rather low end mobo but it does have 1Gbit networking. I'm thinking of turning this into a file server rather than buying a NAS. I'm thinking of Windows Server 2008 since I mainly have Windows 7 running here. Other than backups, what else can I get such a system to do? Does Windows Server include all of the necessary software or would I have to buy something else for streaming, etc. I assume it has a network backup tool. Would some kind of raid configuration be wise for this? Pros Cons? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3140 - Release Date: 09/17/10 02:34:00
Re: [H] Router cable?
YES! Duncan On 09/17/2010 21:35, Sam Franc wrote: Is cat5e the right cable to connect my router to my computer? Sam
