[H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the 
Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One 
that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that 
comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 
(can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?


Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Greg Sevart
27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same
IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units
at home, and the Aurias at work.

The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in
the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen
are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and
never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.


http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor

Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the 
Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One 
that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that 
comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 
(can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?




[H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Brian Weeden
Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
 Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian


Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread joeuser
How about this?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579seq=1format=2


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
 From: Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net
 Date: Mon, February 25, 2013 9:32 am
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 
 
 27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
 shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
 scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same
 IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
 and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
 multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
 contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units
 at home, and the Aurias at work.
 
 The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in
 the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen
 are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and
 never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
 pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.
 
 
 http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
 Martin
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor
 
 Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the 
 Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One 
 that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that 
 comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 
 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?


Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Greg Sevart
Another good option, but note that it has only a dual-link DVI input, no 
scaler, and no OSD. The lack of scaler means that it should have low input lag 
for gaming though, if you're sensitive to that. The stands and bezels on all 
the cheap ones are pretty...er, cheap too.

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com 
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of 
joeu...@chronic.org
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:35 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

How about this?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579seq=1format=2


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...

  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
 From: Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net
 Date: Mon, February 25, 2013 9:32 am
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 
 
 27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
 shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
 scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same
 IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
 and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
 multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
 contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units
 at home, and the Aurias at work.
 
 The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in
 the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen
 are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and
 never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
 pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.
 
 
 http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
 Martin
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor
 
 Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the 
 Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One 
 that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that 
 comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20 
 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?




Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Al Anger

If it is as drastic as a bad mainboard, you will want a new power supply
for the new mainboard, anyway; given the symptoms described.

I'd start there. At worst you have a PS on hand.

best
al

On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:42:45 +0800
Brian Weeden brian.wee...@gmail.com wrote:

 Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
 powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
 ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
 trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
 year ago I haven't had to touch it.
 
 I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
 and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.
 
 Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
 the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
 coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.
 
 Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
 back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
 diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
 RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
 Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).
 
 I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
 can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
 parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
 trouble-shooting process.
 
 Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
 indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
 worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?
 
 
 -
 Brian

-- 
Al Anger eight.bit...@gmail.com



Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I like how Monoprice says if you can count 5 dead pixels, we will give 
you another one.


What about backlight bleed?  Can this be a problem?  Also, I like that 
you can put some of these in portrait mode.


On 2/25/2013 10:34 AM, joeu...@chronic.org wrote:

How about this?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?p_id=9579seq=1format=2


Regards,
joeuser - Still looking for the 'any' key...

...now these points of data make a beautiful line...


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor
From: Greg Sevart ad...@xfury.net
Date: Mon, February 25, 2013 9:32 am
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com


27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same
IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units
at home, and the Aurias at work.

The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in
the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen
are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and
never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.


http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor

Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the
Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One
that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that
comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20
(can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?




Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
How are these on backlight bleed?  I saw some of the dell units on 
Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed.  I know this is something a 
lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree.


I get the point about dead pixels.

On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter (same
IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus units
at home, and the Aurias at work.

The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel in
the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen
are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them, and
never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.


http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor

Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the
Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One
that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that
comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20
(can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?







Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Greg Sevart
A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect
of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and
real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of
what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an
all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use
case for that scenario is invalid.

All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it
doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the
Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad.

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

How are these on backlight bleed?  I saw some of the dell units on 
Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed.  I know this is something a 
lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree.

I get the point about dead pixels.

On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
 27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
 shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
 scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter
(same
 IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
 and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
 multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
 contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus
units
 at home, and the Aurias at work.

 The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel
in
 the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen
 are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them,
and
 never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
 pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.


 http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294



 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
 Martin
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor

 Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the
 Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One
 that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that
 comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20
 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?








Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at 
home more?  I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be 
worth the extra price, too, right?  I would like the option to go 
vertical if I want to...

On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect
of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and
real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of
what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have an
all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the use
case for that scenario is invalid.

All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it
doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the
Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad.

-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

How are these on backlight bleed?  I saw some of the dell units on
Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed.  I know this is something a
lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree.

I get the point about dead pixels.

On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:

27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter

(same

IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus

units

at home, and the Aurias at work.

The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel

in

the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that screen
are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them,

and

never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.


http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294



-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor

Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the
Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One
that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that
comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20
(can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?











Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

2013-02-25 Thread Greg Sevart
I always keep my best stuff at home. :) Something feels wrong about taking
my best gear to work...but I do spend more time at home than at work. I have
a lot of flexibility to work from home when I want to, so it's helpful in
that situation too.

The best case for the Asus is the panel itself I think. Text, already hugely
improved over most displays by virtue of the smaller dot pitch, looks even
better on the PB278Q, which I believe is due to better contrast (improved
black level). Frankly, text quality is what won me over on the 27 2560x1440
size/resolution. It's incredible. The PLS panel is the same one Samsung uses
on some of their more expensive displays--and in this case, it's an A+ grade
panel, not A- as you find on most of the cheaper/import IPS units. IPS and
PLS are very similar technology wise--PLS is really just Samsung's take on
LG's IPS. The fully adjustable stand (height adjustment, tilt, rotate, and
pivot) is certainly also an improvement. The screen is so large that I'm not
sure that rotating to portrait mode is really practical, but the option is
nice.

Couple all of that with a good internal scaler and the no-compromise
complement of input options--including DisplayPort, my preferred choice--and
it was an easy decision for me. The only real downside is that it uses a
relatively low cycle frequency for PWM backlight control, but I didn't know
about it beforehand and it hasn't bothered me at all. There's a long forum
thread on this particular model if you're interested:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1713774


-Original Message-
From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
[mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
Martin
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:55 AM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

You run your Asus monitors at home rather than work because you are at 
home more?  I take it you find the extra features of the asus to be 
worth the extra price, too, right?  I would like the option to go 
vertical if I want to...
On 2/25/2013 11:45 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
 A lot of people get confused between IPS glow, which is just a side-effect
 of the technology that can make off-axis areas appear to have a glow, and
 real backlight bleed. Plus, most photos of BLB are gross exaggerations of
 what it looks like in real life--unless it's really bad, you need to have
an
 all-black screen in a pitch black room to even notice. I would argue the
use
 case for that scenario is invalid.

 All panels have BLB to varying degrees. I'm not sensitive to it, so it
 doesn't bother me. That said, my two Asus monitors have less BLB than the
 Aurias did, but none of the 4 were at all bad.

 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
 Martin
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 10:19 AM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: Re: [H] IPS high res monitor

 How are these on backlight bleed?  I saw some of the dell units on
 Amazon showing some pretty serious bleed.  I know this is something a
 lot of IPS panels exhibit to some degree.

 I get the point about dead pixels.

 On 2/25/2013 10:32 AM, Greg Sevart wrote:
 27 2560x1440 monitors seem to be popular. I was too wary of the overseas
 shipping (plus they usually only have a dual-link DVI input and lack a
 scaler and OSD) and have purchased 4 total--2 Aurias from Microcenter
 (same
 IPS panel, multiple inputs, with scaler, but still glossy) for $400 each,
 and two Asus PB278Q's (Samsung PLS panel, non-aggressive anti-glare,
 multiple inputs) for $700 each. In my opinion, the Asus units have better
 contrast (for text) than the LG-based IPS displays. I now run my Asus
 units
 at home, and the Aurias at work.

 The Asus monitors were perfect, but each of the Aurias had one dead pixel
 in
 the outer areas of the screen. Here's the thing--the pixels on that
screen
 are so tiny that it doesn't matter. I had to look closely to find them,
 and
 never, ever notice them in normal use. I don't think a handful of dead
 pixels along the outer track is a dealbreaker on these.


 http://www.microcenter.com/product/384780/EQ276W_27_IPS_LED_Monitor
 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236294



 -Original Message-
 From: hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Q.
 Martin
 Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 5:57 AM
 To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
 Subject: [H] IPS high res monitor

 Still thinking of getting something more than a cheapo monitor.  Are the
 Dell Ultrasharp's the ones to go for or is there an alternative?  One
 that is less expensive?  I recall someone mentioned one from ebay that
 comes from overseas?  With a dead-pixel guarantee for an extra $20
 (can't have no dead pixels, can we?)?











Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread DSinc

Brian,
My suggestion is you need a new PSU. I've never read about a PSU
failing with excessively 'high' voltages. I suppose this can happen, but
I am not aware of this; yet,..:)
From your share, it seems that your cpu, m/b, RAM, are now trying
very hard to deal with 'bad' voltages as best they can.
Get a new (bigger) PSU.
I would suggest a 650W + unit to start. If you have several (many)
mechanical HD's, I may go 750W.
Ireally like Seasonic now (thanks Greg!)
JMHO.
Duncan

On 02/25/2013 10:42, Brian Weeden wrote:

Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian





Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Brian Weeden
I had a 650W OCZ in there.  Only 1 SSD, 1 HDD, and a single video card so my 
power requirements aren't that steep.

---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:28, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:

 Brian,
 My suggestion is you need a new PSU. I've never read about a PSU
 failing with excessively 'high' voltages. I suppose this can happen, but
 I am not aware of this; yet,..:)
 From your share, it seems that your cpu, m/b, RAM, are now trying
 very hard to deal with 'bad' voltages as best they can.
 Get a new (bigger) PSU.
 I would suggest a 650W + unit to start. If you have several (many)
 mechanical HD's, I may go 750W.
 Ireally like Seasonic now (thanks Greg!)
 JMHO.
 Duncan
 
 On 02/25/2013 10:42, Brian Weeden wrote:
 Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
 powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
 ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
 trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
 year ago I haven't had to touch it.
 
 I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
 and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.
 
 Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
 the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
 coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.
 
 Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
 back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
 diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
 RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
 Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).
 
 I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
 can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
 parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
 trouble-shooting process.
 
 Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
 indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
 worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?
 
 
 -
 Brian
 


Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread DSinc

Brian,
OK. Well, I suppose 'stuff happens' then.
Still, your trouble reads a PSU anywayat least.
A new m/b, maybe.. ?
Duncan

On 02/25/2013 12:38, Brian Weeden wrote:

I had a 650W OCZ in there.  Only 1 SSD, 1 HDD, and a single video card so my 
power requirements aren't that steep.

---
Brian Weeden
Secure World Foundation
+1 202 683-8534

On Feb 25, 2013, at 12:28, DSinc dsinc...@epbfi.com wrote:


Brian,
My suggestion is you need a new PSU. I've never read about a PSU
failing with excessively 'high' voltages. I suppose this can happen, but
I am not aware of this; yet,..:)
 From your share, it seems that your cpu, m/b, RAM, are now trying
very hard to deal with 'bad' voltages as best they can.
Get a new (bigger) PSU.
I would suggest a 650W + unit to start. If you have several (many)
mechanical HD's, I may go 750W.
Ireally like Seasonic now (thanks Greg!)
JMHO.
Duncan

On 02/25/2013 10:42, Brian Weeden wrote:

Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
  Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian




Re: [H] Loss of power, followed by overheated smell

2013-02-25 Thread Winterlight
I have had similar episodes that turned out to be the video fan 
happened to me twice... and the CPU fan ... happened to me once. The 
fans don't die they just slow down and stop pushing enough air. The 
MB over heats and shuts down the computer and every thing feels and 
smells hot. Good luck.


w


At 07:42 AM 2/25/2013, you wrote:

Was working on a paper this morning and suddenly my desktop computer
powered off by itself.  This is a Q6600 machine that I built a few years
ago and has been in nearly constant use since then with little to no
trouble.  It's been rock-sold and aside from upgrading the video card a
year ago I haven't had to touch it.

I waited a few seconds, then hit the power button.  It came back on briefly
and then shut off again, followed by the smell of overheated electronics.

Disconnected the power and opened it up.  Nothing was visibly smoking.
 Took everything apart.  Inspected the CPU and it appeared ok.  Replaced
the thermal compound and re-seated the heatsink.  Smell appeared to be
coming from the power supply but I can't be positive.

Put the bare essentials backtogether (CPU, RAM, video card) and powered it
back on.  Getting a variety of beep and error codes from the on-board
diagnostic unit.  At first there was a 1 long, 3 short beep code for the
RAM . Reseated and it's gone.  POST sequence was hanging on 8.7. (Check CPU
Voltage) and now it's hanging on 8.2. (Check Power Supply).

I get the sense that perhaps the power supply went bad.  However, I really
can't afford to be down on this system very long, so if I'm going to order
parts I want to do it as soon as possible and not go through a long
trouble-shooting process.

Thoughts from the collective?  Is it likely that if the power supply is
indeed the culprit that the damage was contained there?  Or should I be
worried about the CPU, RAM, mobo, etc?


-
Brian