Re: [H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread DSinc

Bryan,
You get the gold star! OB managed to copy the 'Win32' folder from the CD 
to a flash drive.
Installed the flash drive in the VE machine, and, the new Intel nic is 
now running hot, straight,
and, opnorml He now has a fully complete GBit home LAN. I am pleased 
also.

Project DONE!
Plus my OB now knows that his old Plextor CD rom is terminally dead! He 
knows how to fix this
himself. For him it is not technical; it is just a matter of 
transportation and $$$. ...:)

Thank you all!
Duncan

On 10/07/2013 12:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:

To get the driver on it :)  Maybe DL it to another machine w/ USB key.  XPSP3 
has USB right? :)

On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 12:55:55PM -0400, DSinc wrote:

Harry,
Not to question your counsel, but why both nics in the same box?
I don't have a map of all his open PCI slots. And, most
importantly, His VE machine has some complicated Matrox
video business installed. OB did bitch about the 'buzillion little
wires' running around inside the box!
On 10/07/2013 12:22, Harry McGregor wrote:

Hi,

If possible, put both NICs in the box.

Then plug the cable into the "old" nic, then download the driver from
intel.com (and you could help him using teamviewer from teamviewer.com
if needed, it's free for personal use).

Then once the driver is setup and running, move the cable over to the
new Intel NIC.

-Harry

On 10/7/13 9:09 AM, DSinc wrote:

Bryan,
Thanks. Good point. Not certain when GBit was baselined, so maybe XP
may not have an
appropriate driver. My bad. But he does have the Intel CD that has the
driver(s) as well as the
ProSet tool(s).
Fact I forgot to mention: It turns out that his CD/DVD rom device may
also be fubar!
So, his troubles havemultiplied. I'd pay for a Geek-Squad call, but
I'm afraid his pride will
never allow that. So, I wait today for the frothing phone call from
FL! LOL!
Duncan




Re: [H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread DSinc

Bryan,
Great Pernt!! May have to try that eventually. Yes, XPSP3 has USB, but 
not bootableI believe.

Duncan

On 10/07/2013 12:58, Bryan Seitz wrote:

To get the driver on it :)  Maybe DL it to another machine w/ USB key.  XPSP3 
has USB right? :)

On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 12:55:55PM -0400, DSinc wrote:

Harry,
Not to question your counsel, but why both nics in the same box?
I don't have a map of all his open PCI slots. And, most
importantly, His VE machine has some complicated Matrox
video business installed. OB did bitch about the 'buzillion little
wires' running around inside the box!
On 10/07/2013 12:22, Harry McGregor wrote:

Hi,

If possible, put both NICs in the box.

Then plug the cable into the "old" nic, then download the driver from
intel.com (and you could help him using teamviewer from teamviewer.com
if needed, it's free for personal use).

Then once the driver is setup and running, move the cable over to the
new Intel NIC.

-Harry

On 10/7/13 9:09 AM, DSinc wrote:

Bryan,
Thanks. Good point. Not certain when GBit was baselined, so maybe XP
may not have an
appropriate driver. My bad. But he does have the Intel CD that has the
driver(s) as well as the
ProSet tool(s).
Fact I forgot to mention: It turns out that his CD/DVD rom device may
also be fubar!
So, his troubles havemultiplied. I'd pay for a Geek-Squad call, but
I'm afraid his pride will
never allow that. So, I wait today for the frothing phone call from
FL! LOL!
Duncan




Re: [H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread Bryan Seitz

To get the driver on it :)  Maybe DL it to another machine w/ USB key.  XPSP3 
has USB right? :)

On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 12:55:55PM -0400, DSinc wrote:
> Harry,
> Not to question your counsel, but why both nics in the same box?
> I don't have a map of all his open PCI slots. And, most
> importantly, His VE machine has some complicated Matrox
> video business installed. OB did bitch about the 'buzillion little
> wires' running around inside the box!
> On 10/07/2013 12:22, Harry McGregor wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > If possible, put both NICs in the box.
> >
> > Then plug the cable into the "old" nic, then download the driver from
> > intel.com (and you could help him using teamviewer from teamviewer.com
> > if needed, it's free for personal use).
> >
> > Then once the driver is setup and running, move the cable over to the
> > new Intel NIC.
> >
> > -Harry
> >
> > On 10/7/13 9:09 AM, DSinc wrote:
> >> Bryan,
> >> Thanks. Good point. Not certain when GBit was baselined, so maybe XP
> >> may not have an
> >> appropriate driver. My bad. But he does have the Intel CD that has the
> >> driver(s) as well as the
> >> ProSet tool(s).
> >> Fact I forgot to mention: It turns out that his CD/DVD rom device may
> >> also be fubar!
> >> So, his troubles havemultiplied. I'd pay for a Geek-Squad call, but
> >> I'm afraid his pride will
> >> never allow that. So, I wait today for the frothing phone call from
> >> FL! LOL!
> >> Duncan
> >

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


Re: [H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread DSinc

Harry,
Not to question your counsel, but why both nics in the same box?
I don't have a map of all his open PCI slots. And, most
importantly, His VE machine has some complicated Matrox
video business installed. OB did bitch about the 'buzillion little
wires' running around inside the box!
On 10/07/2013 12:22, Harry McGregor wrote:

Hi,

If possible, put both NICs in the box.

Then plug the cable into the "old" nic, then download the driver from
intel.com (and you could help him using teamviewer from teamviewer.com
if needed, it's free for personal use).

Then once the driver is setup and running, move the cable over to the
new Intel NIC.

-Harry

On 10/7/13 9:09 AM, DSinc wrote:

Bryan,
Thanks. Good point. Not certain when GBit was baselined, so maybe XP
may not have an
appropriate driver. My bad. But he does have the Intel CD that has the
driver(s) as well as the
ProSet tool(s).
Fact I forgot to mention: It turns out that his CD/DVD rom device may
also be fubar!
So, his troubles havemultiplied. I'd pay for a Geek-Squad call, but
I'm afraid his pride will
never allow that. So, I wait today for the frothing phone call from
FL! LOL!
Duncan






Re: [H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread Harry McGregor
Hi,

If possible, put both NICs in the box.

Then plug the cable into the "old" nic, then download the driver from
intel.com (and you could help him using teamviewer from teamviewer.com
if needed, it's free for personal use).

Then once the driver is setup and running, move the cable over to the
new Intel NIC.

-Harry

On 10/7/13 9:09 AM, DSinc wrote:
> Bryan,
> Thanks. Good point. Not certain when GBit was baselined, so maybe XP
> may not have an
> appropriate driver. My bad. But he does have the Intel CD that has the
> driver(s) as well as the
> ProSet tool(s).
> Fact I forgot to mention: It turns out that his CD/DVD rom device may
> also be fubar!
> So, his troubles havemultiplied. I'd pay for a Geek-Squad call, but
> I'm afraid his pride will
> never allow that. So, I wait today for the frothing phone call from
> FL! LOL!
> Duncan



Re: [H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread DSinc

Bryan,
Thanks. Good point. Not certain when GBit was baselined, so maybe XP may 
not have an
appropriate driver. My bad. But he does have the Intel CD that has the 
driver(s) as well as the

ProSet tool(s).
Fact I forgot to mention: It turns out that his CD/DVD rom device may 
also be fubar!
So, his troubles havemultiplied. I'd pay for a Geek-Squad call, but I'm 
afraid his pride will

never allow that. So, I wait today for the frothing phone call from FL! LOL!
Duncan

On 10/07/2013 12:01, Bryan Seitz wrote:

He'll have to find the driver from intel for that.  Was gigabit even out when 
XP was being used by
everyone? :)

On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 09:01:32AM -0400, DSinc wrote:

I know I've changed many nic cards and I've never had trouble.
Well, yesterday my older Brother tried to change the nic card in his VE
machine,
and, had major trouble. The replacement was to remove and old C200Pro
10/100 nic
card (PCI) for a new Intel Pro/1000 GT (PCI) nic card that I sent to him.

The new nic card was not recognized when he powered his VE machine back
on! OOPS!
The OS never acknowledged the new nic card and tried to install a
driver. Bummer.
OK, perhaps the card I sent is actually dead. Hmm?
I suggested that he carefully reinstall the new card.
A mechanical recheck! Major grumbles.
It appears that the nic card lives at the very bottom (last PCI slot) of
the m/b.
And, OB hasto remove another card to gain accessto the tiny nic card.
Much more frustration, grumbles, and terse words!

He will try again today. His frustration is compounded by the
blizzard of cables and chosen install position associated with his VE
machine.

What is the List's general nic replacement process??? Perhaps I failed
to tell him some
critical prep-step to ease the process. His VE machine still uses WinXP
sp3. Yes, he
knows it is time to upgrade! I assumed that even WinXP has an Intel nic
card driver in its'
cache. I do recall the Win2000 sure did!

Does changing a nic card automatically change CP/Network Connections/Local
Area Connection/ to CP/Network Connections/Local Area Connection 2/ ?
I was trying hard to avoid this :)
I am ready for any questions youmay have.
Thanks,
Duncan





Re: [H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread Bryan Seitz
He'll have to find the driver from intel for that.  Was gigabit even out when 
XP was being used by 
everyone? :)

On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 09:01:32AM -0400, DSinc wrote:
> I know I've changed many nic cards and I've never had trouble.
> Well, yesterday my older Brother tried to change the nic card in his VE 
> machine,
> and, had major trouble. The replacement was to remove and old C200Pro 
> 10/100 nic
> card (PCI) for a new Intel Pro/1000 GT (PCI) nic card that I sent to him.
> 
> The new nic card was not recognized when he powered his VE machine back 
> on! OOPS!
> The OS never acknowledged the new nic card and tried to install a 
> driver. Bummer.
> OK, perhaps the card I sent is actually dead. Hmm?
> I suggested that he carefully reinstall the new card.
> A mechanical recheck! Major grumbles.
> It appears that the nic card lives at the very bottom (last PCI slot) of 
> the m/b.
> And, OB hasto remove another card to gain accessto the tiny nic card.
> Much more frustration, grumbles, and terse words!
> 
> He will try again today. His frustration is compounded by the
> blizzard of cables and chosen install position associated with his VE 
> machine.
> 
> What is the List's general nic replacement process??? Perhaps I failed 
> to tell him some
> critical prep-step to ease the process. His VE machine still uses WinXP 
> sp3. Yes, he
> knows it is time to upgrade! I assumed that even WinXP has an Intel nic 
> card driver in its'
> cache. I do recall the Win2000 sure did!
> 
> Does changing a nic card automatically change CP/Network Connections/Local
> Area Connection/ to CP/Network Connections/Local Area Connection 2/ ?
> I was trying hard to avoid this :)
> I am ready for any questions youmay have.
> Thanks,
> Duncan
> 

-- 
 
Bryan G. Seitz


[H] How to change a nic card?

2013-10-07 Thread DSinc

I know I've changed many nic cards and I've never had trouble.
Well, yesterday my older Brother tried to change the nic card in his VE 
machine,
and, had major trouble. The replacement was to remove and old C200Pro 
10/100 nic

card (PCI) for a new Intel Pro/1000 GT (PCI) nic card that I sent to him.

The new nic card was not recognized when he powered his VE machine back 
on! OOPS!
The OS never acknowledged the new nic card and tried to install a 
driver. Bummer.

OK, perhaps the card I sent is actually dead. Hmm?
I suggested that he carefully reinstall the new card.
A mechanical recheck! Major grumbles.
It appears that the nic card lives at the very bottom (last PCI slot) of 
the m/b.

And, OB hasto remove another card to gain accessto the tiny nic card.
Much more frustration, grumbles, and terse words!

He will try again today. His frustration is compounded by the
blizzard of cables and chosen install position associated with his VE 
machine.


What is the List's general nic replacement process??? Perhaps I failed 
to tell him some
critical prep-step to ease the process. His VE machine still uses WinXP 
sp3. Yes, he
knows it is time to upgrade! I assumed that even WinXP has an Intel nic 
card driver in its'

cache. I do recall the Win2000 sure did!

Does changing a nic card automatically change CP/Network Connections/Local
Area Connection/ to CP/Network Connections/Local Area Connection 2/ ?
I was trying hard to avoid this :)
I am ready for any questions youmay have.
Thanks,
Duncan