Re: [H] OB's old PC has died

2014-07-02 Thread DSinc
Paid neither of them zip. OB owns two mature male long-haired black 
cats. He is

quite used to super-sucking cat hair out of odd places. He build a special
attachment with a collar and a clip to use when he 'pm's' his PC about 
yearly.

Duncan
On 07/01/2014 21:55, FORC5 wrote:

how much did you pay the cat 8-)
fp

At 05:10 PM 7/1/2014, Greg Sevart Poked the stick with:

Duncan,

Given that you are called upon to support this old rig, it seems to 
me that

congratulations are in order...

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On 
Behalf

Of DSinc
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:02 PM
To: HWG
Subject: [H] OB's old PC has died

Just to wrap-up the thread I started about things I needed to 
understand to

help my OB upgrade his old Athlon 64/Gigabyte m/b PC from WinXP to
Win8.1pro.

The mechanical bits went quite well. His new 128GB SSD got installed and
cabled.
He removed his old 160GB XP EMHD. All his data was backed up.

Yesterday morning OB powered off his PC to vacuum out all cat hair, 
install
his new 4GB of RAM,and, double check all his cabling. He completed 
all this
and then called me do the actual power back on, and install of 
W8.1pro. The

PC failed to power back on and complete POST. The infamous Black Screen
presented itself, but, the cooling fans in the PC were running (OK, 
+12v was
alive), but the m/b remained essentially dead. The optical drive with 
the
install DVD pre-loaded failed to do anything. We comiserated. I 
mentioned

that this was a possibility. That did not ease his anger.

OB decided to contact a local resident of his new neighborhood 
complexwho

does PC diagnosis/repair and SW install for members of the neighborhood.

OB called this AM and said his new diagnosis confirmed a newly dead PC
m/b... :( So, OB is now shopping a new desktop 
PC(believe

with an Intel Core-i5 processor).
  He is looking at Dell. I will share what he eventually chooses.

I truly appreciate all the help the Collective shared during this really
intense (for me) period of trying to do a long-distance upgrade that
ultimately failed. No harm, no foul.
Just a bad roll of the dice.
Thankyou,
Duncan


Date:  Tuesday, July 1st, 2014

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Re: [H] OB's old PC has died

2014-07-02 Thread DSinc

Greg,
Well, congrats accepted, but I can not help wonder for WHAT? Trying to
keep his old PC running, or, perhaps helping it die? LOL!
Duncan

On 07/01/2014 20:10, Greg Sevart wrote:

Duncan,

Given that you are called upon to support this old rig, it seems to me that
congratulations are in order...

-Original Message-
From: Hardware [mailto:hardware-boun...@lists.hardwaregroup.com] On Behalf
Of DSinc
Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2014 12:02 PM
To: HWG
Subject: [H] OB's old PC has died

Just to wrap-up the thread I started about things I needed to understand to
help my OB upgrade his old Athlon 64/Gigabyte m/b PC from WinXP to
Win8.1pro.

The mechanical bits went quite well. His new 128GB SSD got installed and
cabled.
He removed his old 160GB XP EMHD. All his data was backed up.

Yesterday morning OB powered off his PC to vacuum out all cat hair, install
his new 4GB of RAM,and, double check all his cabling. He completed all this
and then called me do the actual power back on, and install of W8.1pro. The
PC failed to power back on and complete POST. The infamous Black Screen
presented itself, but, the cooling fans in the PC were running (OK, +12v was
alive), but the m/b remained essentially dead. The optical drive with the
install DVD pre-loaded failed to do anything. We comiserated. I mentioned
that this was a possibility. That did not ease his anger.

OB decided to contact a local resident of his new neighborhood complexwho
does PC diagnosis/repair and SW install for members of the neighborhood.

OB called this AM and said his new diagnosis confirmed a newly dead PC
m/b... :( So, OB is now shopping a new desktop PC(believe
with an Intel Core-i5 processor).
   He is looking at Dell. I will share what he eventually chooses.

I truly appreciate all the help the Collective shared during this really
intense (for me) period of trying to do a long-distance upgrade that
ultimately failed. No harm, no foul.
Just a bad roll of the dice.
Thankyou,
Duncan








[H] Seeking opinions?

2014-07-02 Thread DSinc
OB has been studying Dell for a replacement desktop PC. He seems stuck 
at an Inspiron 8700 for $700.

OK, I turned him on to Dell(but I was thinking Opti-Plex of old!)
Seeking opinions about Inspiron line and Opti-Plex line. It has been 15 
yrs since I played with my old Opti-Plex
at Xerox before they laid me off. My opinion was that the PC was quite 
good given its' proprietary Dell m/b. Sure

kept me out of the case LOL!
No. I did not share that Dell will load up a sequestered area of his 1TB 
em HD with Dell stuff. Shame on me!

Duncan



Re: [H] Seeking opinions?

2014-07-02 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 02:45 PM 02/07/2014, DSinc wrote:
OB has been studying Dell for a replacement desktop PC. He seems 
stuck at an Inspiron 8700 for $700.

OK, I turned him on to Dell(but I was thinking Opti-Plex of old!)
Seeking opinions about Inspiron line and Opti-Plex line. It has been 
15 yrs since I played with my old Opti-Plex
at Xerox before they laid me off. My opinion was that the PC was 
quite good given its' proprietary Dell m/b. Sure

kept me out of the case LOL!
No. I did not share that Dell will load up a sequestered area of his 
1TB em HD with Dell stuff. Shame on me!


The mini-cases (for any manufacturer) are complete crap.  A decent 
mini to mid size tower is ok.  Not a fan of Dell (except for the fact 
the low build quality keeps me busy), but I guess if you don't know a 
decent small shop in the area it might be the only choice.


T 






Re: [H] Z97 chipset Driver -- The Story So Far -- Complete!

2014-07-02 Thread Steve Tomporowski
The upgrade is complete and the immediate effect is that Windows 
Explorer seems a lot quicker. The Hero VII is an odd-looking board, they 
run a bunch of LEDs off the +5VSB so that the board glows red even when 
off.  Using the included fan/heatsink, the processor is running cool.  I 
stuck the 6850 back into this system and have not yet tried to install 
the GTX750.  The 750 can handle 3 monitors and that's something I'd like 
to do, but I don't have room on the desk yet for 3 monitors.


Abnormalities:  With all my USB devices plugged in (Printer, Scanner, 
APC, two external drives, two midi keyboards, mouse and keyboad, the 
boot-up is slow.  There is a 15 second black screen between POST and 
Windows loading.  Right now I would not recommend the Nanoface 
midi/audio interface.  I've finally gotten it working with no crackling, 
but you have to be darned careful.  There is a firmware upgrade, but you 
have to install the drivers with the device not hooked up, then hook it 
up later.  I'm going to stress test the interface by running a team 
deathmatch in UT2004.


The to-do list includes looking at the slow boot, making sure all old 
drivers are removed.


On 7/1/2014 5:37 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote:

At 05:58 PM 01/07/2014, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
Can SFC detect whether the correct driver is installed?  As for the 
system drivers in the Intel exe, it looks like it generates a .inf on 
the fly.  The .inf files it generated on the netbook were filled with 
'no driver'.  I tried that anyways, it said installed but didn't 
change the situation. Since I can prep this drive beforehand, will 
deleting the HD controller drivers make windows reload the generic 
drivers?  Or maybe I can get away with doing a sysprep?  Never did 
sysprep before


Not sure if SFC can fix a driver.  Can you use this remove the drivers:
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/device_manager_view.html

T