Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

2022-01-21 Thread Bino Gopal
Yeah, that's my concern...but I did do a cdkeys license for Mad Max (the game) 
and it worked fine, so I'm wondering...

That's why I asked if anyone had any personal experience with either of the 
sites below...

And it turns out that I had a Office Home 2019 license I bought back in Oct 
2018 that I hadn't installed anywhere, so I ended up putting that on after 
spending 2 hrs on the phone with Office advanced tech support doing a remote 
session using Quick Assist (Paul, in Nigeria-who for the most part knew what he 
was doing, which was very refreshing) and after completely uninstalling O365 
and signing out of my account and signing back in, got the Home 2019 license to 
take and the formatting/font/look is much better so I'm just going to use that 
for now...

Still keeping O365 if I want to use the web versions on other machines as I do 
get 1TB of OneDrive storage and that's what I pay for Google One (and I'm 
paying for 2TB if icloud now that I think about it...only one I'm not paying 
for is Dropbox lol!) and easy support, so it's worth it for me just for that!

BINO


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of Steve 
Tomporowski
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2022 3:03 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

Bino,

Just be careful what you get from the cheap vendors.  My experience has been 
that they will freely sell you an install off a volume license. This caused 
problems with me everytime I moved to a new system.  The volume license had no 
more installs and I had to call M$.  The other time I had a Win10 Pro key and 
when I went to install it, I found out it required a yearly renewal from a 
domain.  In that case, the people who sold it to me didn't know that either.

Steve

On 1/21/2022 4:18 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:
> (whoops; ignore the one from my gmail...didn't know you could send to 
> the list from a non-subscribed address...!)
>
> FWIW, I found out that traditional Office licenses (for example) only allow 
> you to install it on one computer-says so right on the licensing page...and I 
> guess that would be true for most software, now that I think about it...just 
> seems painful if you have multiple machines tho...like once I get my desktop 
> then that's 3 licenses I'd need...or I guess I would have to reinstall it 
> from one machine to another huh...?
>
>
> Anyway, to make it simple, I signed up for the Office 365 family plan 
> ($100/yr) and was just going to install that on both the laptops and go from 
> there...but ran into 2 issues:
>
> 1) First, on the old machine that had Office Pro Plus 2019 installed, it 
> doesn't launch the Office 365 version of the apps, it launches the 2019 
> versions.  Do I need to uninstall Office 2019 first, anyone know?
>
> 2) BUT, the thing that's got me re-thinking O365...the O365 version of 
> Outlook on the new laptop is...not nearly as nice-looking as the one in 
> 2019...it seems almost like a webpage turned into an Win 10 "app" and I kinda 
> hate those compared to the old-school desktop versions of the software...it's 
> enough to really put me off and I spend a lot of time in Outlook and it's 
> like the main app I use most of the time...
>
>
> Anyone have experience with this and/or the same feelings?  Wondering now if 
> it's better to just get an Office Pro Plus 2021 license and install that on 
> the other machine...
>
> I found one at this site that lists it for $60 (vs the $440 from MS!)
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpcsal
> esonline.com%2Fen%2Foffice-accounting%2Foffice-professional-plus-2021&
> amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd117298ccbe1429c313a08d9dd3229f2%7C84df9e7fe9f64
> 0afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637784029782109742%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb
> 3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%
> 7C3000&sdata=nexQe10J5wexwTlPK9qDdwi347sq9UWwS0Tormu78ks%3D&re
> served=0
>
> This site has it for $130..
>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmrkey
> shop.com%2Fen%2Fmicrosoft-office-2021%2F84-office-2021-professional-pl
> us-product-key&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd117298ccbe1429c313a08d9dd3229f2%
> 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637784029782109742%7CUnkn
> own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi
> LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=b4AG4MCwwrKsX%2FR4lwqBeTUwB3qm0q2keri7
> r220ATI%3D&reserved=0
>
> Anyone have experience with either site if I got that route and scrap the 
> Office 365 thing b/c the graphics on the apps suck...?  Thanks!
>
>   BINO
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hardware  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Fisk
> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 4:28 PM
> To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...
>
> Windows 10 is insanely good about swapping hardware

Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

2022-01-21 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Bino,

Just be careful what you get from the cheap vendors.  My experience has 
been that they will freely sell you an install off a volume license.  
This caused problems with me everytime I moved to a new system.  The 
volume license had no more installs and I had to call M$.  The other 
time I had a Win10 Pro key and when I went to install it, I found out it 
required a yearly renewal from a domain.  In that case, the people who 
sold it to me didn't know that either.


Steve

On 1/21/2022 4:18 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:

(whoops; ignore the one from my gmail...didn't know you could send to the list 
from a non-subscribed address...!)

FWIW, I found out that traditional Office licenses (for example) only allow you 
to install it on one computer-says so right on the licensing page...and I guess 
that would be true for most software, now that I think about it...just seems 
painful if you have multiple machines tho...like once I get my desktop then 
that's 3 licenses I'd need...or I guess I would have to reinstall it from one 
machine to another huh...?


Anyway, to make it simple, I signed up for the Office 365 family plan ($100/yr) 
and was just going to install that on both the laptops and go from there...but 
ran into 2 issues:

1) First, on the old machine that had Office Pro Plus 2019 installed, it 
doesn't launch the Office 365 version of the apps, it launches the 2019 
versions.  Do I need to uninstall Office 2019 first, anyone know?

2) BUT, the thing that's got me re-thinking O365...the O365 version of Outlook on the new 
laptop is...not nearly as nice-looking as the one in 2019...it seems almost like a 
webpage turned into an Win 10 "app" and I kinda hate those compared to the 
old-school desktop versions of the software...it's enough to really put me off and I 
spend a lot of time in Outlook and it's like the main app I use most of the time...


Anyone have experience with this and/or the same feelings?  Wondering now if 
it's better to just get an Office Pro Plus 2021 license and install that on the 
other machine...

I found one at this site that lists it for $60 (vs the $440 from MS!)

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpcsalesonline.com%2Fen%2Foffice-accounting%2Foffice-professional-plus-2021&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41e82d9f841f4680058008d9dd218628%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637783958326356341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=MLhCahtAhuAEX60g5MXj%2Bwqg%2F0p77KO7IdZh2xL%2BvT0%3D&reserved=0

This site has it for $130..

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmrkeyshop.com%2Fen%2Fmicrosoft-office-2021%2F84-office-2021-professional-plus-product-key&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41e82d9f841f4680058008d9dd218628%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637783958326356341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=QTTKCXOS5U6J9vYO9ave1ty8l6K8Pjugvbn%2BNk68Gk0%3D&reserved=0

Anyone have experience with either site if I got that route and scrap the 
Office 365 thing b/c the graphics on the apps suck...?  Thanks!

BINO

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Fisk
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 4:28 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

Windows 10 is insanely good about swapping hardware now.  Just today I imaged a 
drive from an old Second Generation core i3 to an 11th gen i5 without issue, it 
downloaded drivers for the motherboard and was ready to go.

As was said, some programs you may need to go through the process of reapplying 
licenses, but it depends on the app.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Steve Tomporowski 
wrote:


To be honest, I haven't turned on the old machine since it transferred.
I believe most of the programs won't allow use on two computers.

On 11/17/2021 7:04 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:

So are you still using all the programs/apps on both machines at the

same time, and I'm curious-is that technically allowed...?  Or are you
"supposed" to get a new license for each install on a new machine?  Or
does it depend on the software...?  That's the things I'm mainly wondering...

   BINO


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf
Of

Steve Tomporowski

Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 3:57 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

Just a week or so ago, I transfered (image via Macrium) my C drive
from

an i7-8700 to a 5800X.  Win 10 had no problems with activation, acted
as if nothing changed.  Office 2016, however, screamed that the
hardware had changed and it needed to be activated/new key.  Some of
my other programs whined about activating on a new computer,
specifically Presonus Studio One and Waves 

Re: [H] So this happened....

2022-01-21 Thread Steve Tomporowski
Good thing, Julian!  How long did it take them to pronounce your name 
properly?  It isn't everyday that you have more hair than your 
interviewer


On 1/21/2022 5:00 PM, Julian Zottl wrote:

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/julianzottl_cybersecurity-cyber-cybersecurity-activity-6890392088505061376-CeCs

If you want to see Sabre's goofy side on TV, here's your chance! LOL!

Sabre (Julian)


[H] So this happened....

2022-01-21 Thread Julian Zottl
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/julianzottl_cybersecurity-cyber-cybersecurity-activity-6890392088505061376-CeCs

If you want to see Sabre's goofy side on TV, here's your chance! LOL!

Sabre (Julian)


Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

2022-01-21 Thread Bino Gopal
(whoops; ignore the one from my gmail...didn't know you could send to the list 
from a non-subscribed address...!)

FWIW, I found out that traditional Office licenses (for example) only allow you 
to install it on one computer-says so right on the licensing page...and I guess 
that would be true for most software, now that I think about it...just seems 
painful if you have multiple machines tho...like once I get my desktop then 
that's 3 licenses I'd need...or I guess I would have to reinstall it from one 
machine to another huh...?


Anyway, to make it simple, I signed up for the Office 365 family plan ($100/yr) 
and was just going to install that on both the laptops and go from there...but 
ran into 2 issues:

1) First, on the old machine that had Office Pro Plus 2019 installed, it 
doesn't launch the Office 365 version of the apps, it launches the 2019 
versions.  Do I need to uninstall Office 2019 first, anyone know?

2) BUT, the thing that's got me re-thinking O365...the O365 version of Outlook 
on the new laptop is...not nearly as nice-looking as the one in 2019...it seems 
almost like a webpage turned into an Win 10 "app" and I kinda hate those 
compared to the old-school desktop versions of the software...it's enough to 
really put me off and I spend a lot of time in Outlook and it's like the main 
app I use most of the time...


Anyone have experience with this and/or the same feelings?  Wondering now if 
it's better to just get an Office Pro Plus 2021 license and install that on the 
other machine...

I found one at this site that lists it for $60 (vs the $440 from MS!)

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpcsalesonline.com%2Fen%2Foffice-accounting%2Foffice-professional-plus-2021&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41e82d9f841f4680058008d9dd218628%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637783958326356341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=MLhCahtAhuAEX60g5MXj%2Bwqg%2F0p77KO7IdZh2xL%2BvT0%3D&reserved=0

This site has it for $130..

https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmrkeyshop.com%2Fen%2Fmicrosoft-office-2021%2F84-office-2021-professional-plus-product-key&data=04%7C01%7C%7C41e82d9f841f4680058008d9dd218628%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637783958326356341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=QTTKCXOS5U6J9vYO9ave1ty8l6K8Pjugvbn%2BNk68Gk0%3D&reserved=0

Anyone have experience with either site if I got that route and scrap the 
Office 365 thing b/c the graphics on the apps suck...?  Thanks!

BINO

-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Fisk
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 4:28 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

Windows 10 is insanely good about swapping hardware now.  Just today I imaged a 
drive from an old Second Generation core i3 to an 11th gen i5 without issue, it 
downloaded drivers for the motherboard and was ready to go.

As was said, some programs you may need to go through the process of reapplying 
licenses, but it depends on the app.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Steve Tomporowski 
wrote:

> To be honest, I haven't turned on the old machine since it transferred.
> I believe most of the programs won't allow use on two computers.
>
> On 11/17/2021 7:04 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:
> > So are you still using all the programs/apps on both machines at the
> same time, and I'm curious-is that technically allowed...?  Or are you 
> "supposed" to get a new license for each install on a new machine?  Or 
> does it depend on the software...?  That's the things I'm mainly wondering...
> >
> >   BINO
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hardware  On Behalf 
> > Of
> Steve Tomporowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 3:57 PM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...
> >
> > Just a week or so ago, I transfered (image via Macrium) my C drive 
> > from
> an i7-8700 to a 5800X.  Win 10 had no problems with activation, acted 
> as if nothing changed.  Office 2016, however, screamed that the 
> hardware had changed and it needed to be activated/new key.  Some of 
> my other programs whined about activating on a new computer, 
> specifically Presonus Studio One and Waves plugins.  Both were easy fixes 
> online.
> >
> > On 11/17/2021 6:40 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:
> >> Hey guys, picked up a new LG Gram laptop at Costco for 
> >> $850...couldn't
> pass it up at that price given the specs and screen size of 17" (floor 
> model, hence discounted a bunch from the $1250 normal price).
> >>
> >> In any case what I'm wondering is about licensing and transferring 
> >> over
> programs and stuff.  I've got a bunch of softwa

Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

2022-01-21 Thread keltraine
FWIW, I found out that traditional Office licenses (for example) only allow you 
to install it on one computer-says so right on the licensing page...and I guess 
that would be true for most software, now that I think about it...just seems 
painful if you have multiple machines tho...like once I get my desktop then 
that's 3 licenses I'd need...or I guess I would have to reinstall it from one 
machine to another huh...?


Anyway, to make it simple, I signed up for the Office 365 family plan ($100/yr) 
and was just going to install that on both the laptops and go from there...but 
ran into 2 issues:

1) First, on the old machine that had Office Pro Plus 2019 installed, it 
doesn't launch the Office 365 version of the apps, it launches the 2019 
versions.  Do I need to uninstall Office 2019 first, anyone know?

2) BUT, the thing that's got me re-thinking O365...the O365 version of Outlook 
on the new laptop is...not nearly as nice-looking as the one in 2019...it seems 
almost like a webpage turned into an Win 10 "app" and I kinda hate those 
compared to the old-school desktop versions of the software...it's enough to 
really put me off and I spend a lot of time in Outlook and it's like the main 
app I use most of the time...


Anyone have experience with this and/or the same feelings?  Wondering now if 
it's better to just get an Office Pro Plus 2021 license and install that on the 
other machine...

I found one at this site that lists it for $60 (vs the $440 from MS!)

https://pcsalesonline.com/en/office-accounting/office-professional-plus-2021

This site has it for $130..

https://mrkeyshop.com/en/microsoft-office-2021/84-office-2021-professional-plus-product-key

Anyone have experience with either site if I got that route and scrap the 
Office 365 thing b/c the graphics on the apps suck...?  Thanks!

BINO


-Original Message-
From: Hardware  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Fisk
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 4:28 PM
To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...

Windows 10 is insanely good about swapping hardware now.  Just today I imaged a 
drive from an old Second Generation core i3 to an 11th gen i5 without issue, it 
downloaded drivers for the motherboard and was ready to go.

As was said, some programs you may need to go through the process of reapplying 
licenses, but it depends on the app.

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 7:06 PM Steve Tomporowski 
wrote:

> To be honest, I haven't turned on the old machine since it transferred.
> I believe most of the programs won't allow use on two computers.
>
> On 11/17/2021 7:04 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:
> > So are you still using all the programs/apps on both machines at the
> same time, and I'm curious-is that technically allowed...?  Or are you 
> "supposed" to get a new license for each install on a new machine?  Or 
> does it depend on the software...?  That's the things I'm mainly wondering...
> >
> >   BINO
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Hardware  On Behalf 
> > Of
> Steve Tomporowski
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2021 3:57 PM
> > To: hardw...@lists.hardwaregroup.com
> > Subject: Re: [H] Licensing and new computer upgrade/transfer questions...
> >
> > Just a week or so ago, I transfered (image via Macrium) my C drive 
> > from
> an i7-8700 to a 5800X.  Win 10 had no problems with activation, acted 
> as if nothing changed.  Office 2016, however, screamed that the 
> hardware had changed and it needed to be activated/new key.  Some of 
> my other programs whined about activating on a new computer, 
> specifically Presonus Studio One and Waves plugins.  Both were easy fixes 
> online.
> >
> > On 11/17/2021 6:40 PM, Bino Gopal wrote:
> >> Hey guys, picked up a new LG Gram laptop at Costco for 
> >> $850...couldn't
> pass it up at that price given the specs and screen size of 17" (floor 
> model, hence discounted a bunch from the $1250 normal price).
> >>
> >> In any case what I'm wondering is about licensing and transferring 
> >> over
> programs and stuff.  I've got a bunch of software installed on my old 
> MSI gaming laptop and do most licenses for most of these things let 
> you have two or more copies installed on multiple machines at home or 
> would I need licenses for each instance?
> >>
> >> And specifically, I'm trying to remember, what's the deal with both
> Windows 10/11 and MS Office now?  What I mean is the LG came with 
> Win10, not 11, and I think it's free to upgrade to 11, but would you 
> guys recommend doing that now before I get it all set up and install 
> stuff, or to wait some time as I heard that 11 was missing some stuff?
> >>
> >> And as far as Office goes, I'm pretty sure I just bought a license 
> >> for
> Office Pro Plus 2019 so I could have Outlook (all I mainly use it for 
> actually).  Is that something where I'd be able to get another cop