Re: [H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-14 Thread Scott Sipe
On Jul 13, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Thane Sherrington wrote:

> At 11:22 AM 13/07/2014, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
>> I don't get how that can announce a EOS warning that are 6 months out. That 
>> should have come two years ago.  It makes zero sense in the light of Windows 
>> 8 failure and while at the same time talking of Windows 9. People will find 
>> it easier to just jump to Mac OS.
> 
> You're certainly right here.  Vista was a huge bonus for Apple, who got a 
> bump then, and 8 is going to be another bump.  MS doesn't get that they have 
> to provide what the market wants, not what they want to sell.
> 
> T 

At work, our computers are about 50/50 Windows 7 and XP. We actually still have 
a few Windows 2000 VMs running, too (no internet browsing)! I really thought 
Microsoft had turned a corner with Windows 7.

I had played with Windows 8 about a year ago on a computer we purchased for our 
warehouse, and decided to just wipe and install 7. I didn't have time to figure 
everything out.

Just last week, however, I bought a cheapo 8.1 laptop from Best Buy for testing 
some software on. I am honestly shocked by how much I hate win8. Awkward 
gestures, annoying seemingly random flipping between fullscreen mode and 
desktop mode, panels everywhere, REVERSED TOUCHPAD SCROLLING (way to copy 
something stupid Apple did), and the program we were testing doesn't work right 
to boot (some incompatibility between IE11 and Flash--works fine on every 
single other platform we tested on).

I can't see rolling out any computer at work that has Windows8 on it. What a 
shame.

Scott

Re: [H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-13 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 11:22 AM 13/07/2014, Anthony Q. Martin wrote:
I don't get how that can announce a EOS warning that are 6 months 
out. That should have come two years ago.  It makes zero sense in 
the light of Windows 8 failure and while at the same time talking of 
Windows 9. People will find it easier to just jump to Mac OS.


You're certainly right here.  Vista was a huge bonus for Apple, who 
got a bump then, and 8 is going to be another bump.  MS doesn't get 
that they have to provide what the market wants, not what they want to sell.


T 






Re: [H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-13 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 08:24 AM 13/07/2014, Steve Tomporowski wrote:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Issues-End-of-Support-Warning-for-Windows-7-Users-449974.shtml

My company just got finished updating to Windows 7.  This should be 
interesting.


How many people have a contract to call Microsoft for Windows 
support?  Only the retail copies include this - all OEM support is 
supposed to be done by the HW manufacturer.  The real support 
(updates) will be done until 2020, so I think this announcement is 
being blown out of proportion.


T 






Re: [H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-13 Thread Brian Weeden
This is not a total end of support for Win7. As is the case with WinXP,
this is an announcement of the end of the standard support. However,
Microsoft will continue to provide extended support for Win7 until 2020.

When you purchase a Microsoft product, it comes with 5 years of support. If
you are a Business user, you can get an extra 5 years of additional
support. But after than, you're on your own.

http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/search/default.aspx?alpha=windows+7
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifepolicy



-
Brian



On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Anthony Q. Martin 
wrote:

> I don't get how that can announce a EOS warning that are 6 months out.
> That should have come two years ago.  It makes zero sense in the light of
> Windows 8 failure and while at the same time talking of Windows 9. People
> will find it easier to just jump to Mac OS.
>
>
> On 7/13/2014 7:24 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Issues-End-of-
>> Support-Warning-for-Windows-7-Users-449974.shtml
>>
>> My company just got finished updating to Windows 7.  This should be
>> interesting.
>>
>>
>


Re: [H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-13 Thread Anthony Q. Martin
I don't get how that can announce a EOS warning that are 6 months out. 
That should have come two years ago.  It makes zero sense in the light 
of Windows 8 failure and while at the same time talking of Windows 9. 
People will find it easier to just jump to Mac OS.


On 7/13/2014 7:24 AM, Steve Tomporowski wrote:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Issues-End-of-Support-Warning-for-Windows-7-Users-449974.shtml 



My company just got finished updating to Windows 7.  This should be 
interesting.






Re: [H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-13 Thread Steve Tomporowski

Piracy is no longer a big problem, however, revenue is

Companies don't change operating systems willy-nilly anymore. They are 
very conservative, and very cheap.  My workplace just got rid of the 
last few XP machines about a month ago.  Telling them that they will now 
only have 6 months of support for what they just did, will probably make 
IT freak.  I'm not sure how it is with other companies, but here the IT 
department is on the level with every other division of the company, so 
basically they dictate what we can do.  They charge for upgrades, 
monthly maintenance, software, so they've configured themselves as a 
revenue center.  False revenue, because all they do is drain money from 
other divisions.


On 7/13/2014 9:52 AM, FORC5 wrote:

MS has finally lost it's mind, if true.

doesn't a lot of the world still use XP. AT least 25% of the  ppl I 
know still do even though I keep telling them to move on but that 
takes new HW and mostly $

not everyone can afford this. I know one guy with Win 3.11

I may be wrong but I do not think piracy is as big a problem as it 
once was, nothing can stop it completely.


Maybe we should go back to Dos >:-}

tallyho
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At 04:24 AM 7/13/2014, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Issues-End-of-Support-Warning-for-Windows-7-Users-449974.shtml 



My company just got finished updating to Windows 7.  This should be 
interesting.


Date:  Sunday, July 13th, 2014

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**Tallyho**
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 There's nothing wrong with you a
  shotgun blast to the face couldn't fix.
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Re: [H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-13 Thread FORC5

MS has finally lost it's mind, if true.

doesn't a lot of the world still use XP. AT least 25% of the  ppl I 
know still do even though I keep telling them to move on but that 
takes new HW and mostly $

not everyone can afford this. I know one guy with Win 3.11

I may be wrong but I do not think piracy is as big a problem as it 
once was, nothing can stop it completely.


Maybe we should go back to Dos >:-}

tallyho
fp

At 04:24 AM 7/13/2014, Steve Tomporowski Poked the stick with:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Issues-End-of-Support-Warning-for-Windows-7-Users-449974.shtml

My company just got finished updating to Windows 7.  This should be 
interesting.


Date:  Sunday, July 13th, 2014

***Caution Tagline Below***
**Tallyho**
***
 There's nothing wrong with you a
  shotgun blast to the face couldn't fix.
***












[H] Microsoft Issues End of Support Warning for Win7

2014-07-13 Thread Steve Tomporowski

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Issues-End-of-Support-Warning-for-Windows-7-Users-449974.shtml

My company just got finished updating to Windows 7.  This should be 
interesting.